According to the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 as amended under sections 454(6)(b) of the Social Security Act, codified at 42 United States code 654 (6)(b) and your states administrative Rule, all people who are recieving at least $500 in child support money per year will be charged $25 dollars to offset the federal deficit.
Yes, child support money is no longer for the children folks, it is to pay off the federal deficit. Who is the welfare recipient now?
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401 Comments
September 14, 2007 at 6:04 pm
First shot as contributor, any feedback will be welcome.
September 14, 2007 at 6:06 pm
I guess since we can’t rely on “Corporate America” to pay their fair share, we are going to make the children pay for the deficit! Not like they aren’t going to be paying in the future anyway, just getting a jump start on it I guess. This is so INFURIATING!
September 14, 2007 at 6:09 pm
and do you know who takes that money that we pay to pay off the federal deficit? the Federal Reserve Bank (I think)! A private bank! takes money right from the children now! Like candy from a baby (insert your own fat banker cartoon character stealing lolipops from kids).
September 14, 2007 at 6:15 pm
I thought the republicans supported family values? What is the value in taking $25 from a single parent home? That is a week worth of groceries for some of these families.
September 14, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Hey $500 bucks is a lot of cash. Children don’t need to eat every day. If you only feed them every other day that $475 for the kids at the bottom will go plenty far. Every other day they get $2.65 for food. And if you let these people keep the extra $25 they’ll probably just spend it on clothes or something, what a waste.
September 14, 2007 at 6:20 pm
I don’t know how they get away with it. Isn’t this selective double taxation? Or is taking it from the kids how they can loophole around that?
September 14, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Great story Blue, makes me want to tar and feather somebody, anybody.
September 14, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Okay, I will be the blog police.
Link!
I want more information on this. Where did you get the info?
September 14, 2007 at 6:23 pm
The courts have made a significant impression that Child Support is solely for the support of the Children, and making a distinction that this is not to be used except for this purpose. What justification does the Gov’t have to take this money away for the reduction of the Federal Deficit? What arguement do the Senators and Congressional Reps have to justify this robbery of our children?
September 14, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Look, those rich bankers NEED that money. How can they afford to buy congressmen without it?
So a kid has no formula for a few days out of the month. The important thing to remember is “trickle down supply side ecconomic theory” works for everybody… unless you happen to be a poor person. Or the child of a poor person. Or a working class person. Or a middle class person.
But it WORKS for everyone else.
So, suck it up toddler! You’re too fat as it is!
September 14, 2007 at 6:24 pm
The children won’t complain that their taxes are being raised. And if you’re getting $10,000 in child support a year the $25 isn’t going to kill you. But if all you get is $500, well who are you going to complain to, who will listen. See, no problem for the Rethugs at all.
September 14, 2007 at 6:26 pm
Pretty soon this administration is just going to send people to our houses to beat us over the head and take our appliances.
Please leave the toaster! It’s all I have left! ahhhhhhh!
September 14, 2007 at 6:26 pm
How do I edit my post? I will put a link up, but I recieved a letter from H&W about it. I put in how they told me. (They didn’t give me a link, just gave me the legislation)
Looking now for something to link to.
September 14, 2007 at 6:27 pm
$500 child support a YEAR!? That’s criminal, no one should be getting that little. You can’t even feed a child for two months on $500. Not mine anyway.
Yep, gotta have a link!
September 14, 2007 at 6:27 pm
I WIN! 10,000 is the great WILLY!!!!!!
September 14, 2007 at 6:28 pm
No, this one!
Yes Willy, you idiot! This is the Official 10,000 comment for TPZoo!
Um, I didn’t do this one. Spooky….
I did it. Pedro
September 14, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Is there a website on the letter, Blue?
I can’t believe this. The government is taking money away from people are barely surviving, and giving tax breaks to people who have more money than they’ll ever be able to spend.
September 14, 2007 at 6:30 pm
I want my prize…..
September 14, 2007 at 6:30 pm
How did you do that, Willy?
10,000 comments!
September 14, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Blue,
If you can’t find a link, you should at least acknowledge your source (the letter).
September 14, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Willy, your prize is an all expense paid trip to……FLORIDA!! But you have to stay with guy named Scott….
September 14, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Just kept looking back and forth at the comments counter. It’s shameful I know. But if you knew what my life was like, you’ld know why any little acomplishment means something.
September 14, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Effin’ right willy. Not to mention if you’re poor, your grocery store is allowed to charge more for food because of the theft that is incurred in “bad neighborhoods”. And that these people can only afford small size products which cost more than large economy sizes. And that in many poor neighborhoods in Chicago the grocery stores have left and people don’t have cars so they are in a food desert where the only place to buy food is at convenience stores and fast food outlets. God Bless America.
September 14, 2007 at 6:33 pm
That doesn’t mean y’all can leave.
There’s always 11,000….
September 14, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Oh, great, florida…. hold on while I find the rope… be right back….
September 14, 2007 at 6:34 pm
No web site mentioned in letter ( I am finding nothing relating to it on their website) but a number to call.
1-800-356-9868
or in the Boise area 208-334-2479
Just a question and answer page came with it.
September 14, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Willy, would you prefer Guam?
September 14, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Blue I found a long article about it, do you want me to add this link to your post?
September 14, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Here is a link to the Child Support Enforcement Agency.
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/
Link to one of the rulings pertaining to this fee.
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/pol/AT/2007/at-07-01.htm
September 14, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Topic of letter states “Notice of Annual Collection Fee”
September 14, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Guam. Ohhhhh your teasing me now…. lovily Guam, full of Wine and Rice Paddys and Cake.
September 14, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Thanks hon.
September 14, 2007 at 6:37 pm
Blue, Zooey? Should I link the article?
September 14, 2007 at 6:38 pm
How so you like the message at the top of the linked page. “Giving hope and support to America’s children.”
September 14, 2007 at 6:38 pm
willy, doesn’t Guam also have spiders and snakes, why so negative?
September 14, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Please, Shayne.
September 14, 2007 at 6:39 pm
I’m out for awhile. feeding the animals. they are starting to whisper among themselves…..
(I really am crazy, aren’t I?)
(Hail Pedro)
(viva la Guam)
September 14, 2007 at 6:42 pm
Hey! Zooey was the 300th comment on my blog!
(you lazy non-commenting bastards.)
later
September 14, 2007 at 6:42 pm
Here is nice link about how welfare reform will occur by providing funding for Healthy Marriages enacted by the “Democratizer” himself. We wouldn’t need Welfare if everyone would just try harder in their marriages (sarcasm is dripping).
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/opa/spotlight/welfarereauthorized.htm
September 14, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Yes, Shayne, link the article. Thanks
September 14, 2007 at 6:46 pm
Yay! I was Willy’s 300th commenter! I win a prize!
Willy….? My prize…..?
**crickets**
September 14, 2007 at 6:47 pm
Hey guys, My article “The Smoking Gun is a Mushroom Cloud” is referenced at the bottom of a SourceWatch article on Philip Zelikow.
at the bottom…..
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Philip_D._Zelikow
September 14, 2007 at 6:47 pm
A-fucking-men, oldwolf. Rah, rah, family values and all that crap.
September 14, 2007 at 6:47 pm
I think I did. heh
Sorry my learning curve is behind everyone elses.
I will figure this out.
September 14, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Willy, I’m mad at you for getting 10,000 and I will NOT go see you referenced, Hrumph!
September 14, 2007 at 6:48 pm
No, I didn’t cause the one I linked to went to the H&W site. hmmm
September 14, 2007 at 6:48 pm
You’ll get your prize in a rice paddy in Guam.
September 14, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Congratulations Willy!
September 14, 2007 at 6:49 pm
I’m gonna hold you to that, Willy…
September 14, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Sorry, playing with it. Did figure it out.
September 14, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Ah, don’t be like that Shayne. All of you have lives…
If it weren’t for that 10k thing, and that reference I’d be swinging from a tree right now.
(tomorrow ain’t looking so good)
Have any of you read “Salesman..”?
September 14, 2007 at 6:51 pm
gotta feed these animals; they’re starting to tremble.
Later all.
(Hail Pedro)
September 14, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Hanging from a tree in Guam?
September 14, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Later, Willy.
September 14, 2007 at 6:57 pm
It isn’t the cost of the $25 so much as the nickle and dime(ing) ? that the gov’t seems to be doing to poor and middle class. Make sure we pay for it all, while the rich get richer and richer. This ensures that the classes remain in their place, esp. if the gap is so big it can’t be breached. This is not right on so very many levels.
September 14, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Don’t tell willy I looked but he even got top billing. We are all “somebody” by proxy now.
September 14, 2007 at 6:59 pm
See ya Willy
September 14, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Blue in the article I linked it says that the Federal Govt. will take their $25 and then the states will take their $25. Of course the only people who have to pay are the people who have trouble collecting their money.
September 14, 2007 at 7:02 pm
September 14, 2007 at 7:03 pm
I pay child support to my ex-wife, and I am responsible for the $39 state maintenance fee not her.
September 14, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Blue,
It looks as if the people who will be required to pay the $25 are those for whom the State is engaged in obtaining the child support from the other party.
Since almost all child support payments now go through H&W (in Idaho), does that mean ALL families receiving the child support?
I guess what I’m saying is, if the party paying child support is doing so voluntarily (not being forced by further legal action, after the decree), does that family have to pay as well? The state (H&W) really isn’t doing anything but acting as a clearinghouse for those cases.
And isn’t it nice that they’ll ‘only’ take the fee from those receiving $500 per year?
That’s fucked up.
September 14, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Meanwhile corporations use a tax loophole that allows them to deduct as much executive pay as they want as long as it is considered a “performance incentive”. How is a 40 million (or more) write off ok but food stamps for hungry people bad? I mean WTF?
September 14, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Krazny,
In the article, it says the fee can be charged to either party. I’m guessing if the paying party is not reliable, then the receiving party will be charged — the State always gets it’s cut.
September 14, 2007 at 7:08 pm
Damn, busted.
September 14, 2007 at 7:11 pm
From what I understand, the person collecting the support gets the fee deducted from their child support. If they recieve $500 or more in child support. My husband pays child support, and has always done so voluntarily, yet his payments still go through H&W. He set up the account and paid the fee. I also set up the account and paid the fee to recieve mine, but I was having problems collecting mine at the time. So Shayne, your comment about the people having a hard time getting the money anyway and then having it taken away agian is spot on.
September 14, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Know what is funny, at the bottom of my Q and A sheet, it says even if you collect food stamps or medicaid (translation: you are not making enough money to pay for food and medicine) you are not exempt fom having this money taken from you.
September 14, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Isn’t it nice also that now the Administration gets to chuckle about how they are cutting the budget by making the states pay for administrating Child Support, but still take 2/3 of the fee. Of course what will happen is that more funding will be cut by the state and the workload per caseworker will increase and then someone is going to go “postal” since they can’t get any help from the very agency that is suppose to be helping them. Then everyone will say this never would happen if more people would “focus on the family” instead of getting divorced. Meanwhile there are more and more abusing of children going on, but lets not talk about that or provide funding to prevent this from occurring. ARRGGHH!
September 14, 2007 at 7:18 pm
I think Bluedahlia mentioned it already, but how do they get away with taking already taxed income away from anyone?
September 14, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Nice pic I have there. I guess I’m going through my “Goth” phase.
September 14, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Oldwolf,
Rant much? lol
September 14, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Trueblue, my guess is because they call it a “fee” they think they can get away with it.
September 14, 2007 at 7:22 pm
trueblue,
Seriously, I would like to know that, too.
R.e. your avatar: So is it all colors or no color?
September 14, 2007 at 7:23 pm
But don’t you pay a fee for something or some service that you enter into voluntarily?
The whole thing stinks to me.
September 14, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Off to get pizza and a beer. My outrage is spent and my need to partake in a beverage of an alcoholic nature beckons me. Later guys. /wave and smile
September 14, 2007 at 7:26 pm
I tried to download a pic of my puppy, but it kept saying it was done when there was no pic visible. I tried to just back out, but now I get this.
grrr.
(and I have high-speed, so it’s not that the download time is too slow. Oh well.)
September 14, 2007 at 7:39 pm
True,
Sometimes it takes a while for the pic to show up.
September 14, 2007 at 7:44 pm
I’m not exactly a patient person, Zooey.
Staring at a blank screen for 3 minutes is about my limit.
Then I swear and back out.
September 14, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Raven’s avatar was black for a while, then the pic showed up. Mine took 24 hours, but it seems like others haven’t taken so long.
Patience is a virtue — I guess you’re just not a virtuous woman.
September 14, 2007 at 7:48 pm
You have no idea………………..
September 14, 2007 at 7:49 pm
That pic matches my soul.
September 14, 2007 at 7:51 pm
Yes, the black is covering up your sweetness very nicely.
September 14, 2007 at 7:52 pm
that’s ahhh… nice looking puppy you got there….
September 14, 2007 at 7:53 pm
what are you going to call him? Spot?
September 14, 2007 at 7:54 pm
tough crowd
later
September 14, 2007 at 7:56 pm
lol, willy.
I’m trying again, but there’s nothing but a blank screen with a little red x in the upper left corner. The rest is blank. Is there a place where I can pic some generic image?
September 14, 2007 at 7:58 pm
trueblue, did you upload it from your Facebook site.
September 14, 2007 at 7:58 pm
What movie is this from, True?
Vice, virtue. It’s best not to be too moral. You cheat yourself out of too much life. Aim above morality. If you apply that to life,then you’re bound to live life fully.
September 14, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Sorry I was late getting to you, willy.
I was looking at a story from HuffPo. Came from MSNBC.
Bill Richardson has this to say:
Something’s Wrong When The NE Pat’s Face a Stiffer Penalty for Spying than Cheney/Bush.
September 14, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Some pictures have too many pixels trueblue, I don’t even know what that means. But when you go to upload some pictures to some sites they have too many pixels. Try a different one.
September 14, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Gee Zooey,
I don’t know what era we’re talking about.
You’ve obviously had more years to watch movies than I’ve had.
(ducks)
September 14, 2007 at 8:03 pm
What happened to my HuffPo comment?
September 14, 2007 at 8:04 pm
that’s too rough…
September 14, 2007 at 8:04 pm
“What happened to my HuffPo comment?”
Did it get ………..BLACKED OUT? hahaahahaha
September 14, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Harold and Maude. Watch it Trueblue!
September 14, 2007 at 8:06 pm
Yay, Shayne! Great movie. I only just saw it last year, but it was made in 1971.
September 14, 2007 at 8:06 pm
True; like I have said to women soo many times;
Let’s see how fast we can do this, huh?
no not that!
Your pic.
I am going to ask you questions, and you are going to fix your picture, k?
September 14, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Here’s another gem from Harold and Maude:
Everyone has the right to make an ass out of themselves. You just can’t let the world judge you too much.
September 14, 2007 at 8:08 pm
The best part of Harold and Maude is when he lights himself on fire on the wall outside the window.
September 14, 2007 at 8:08 pm
“Raven’s avatar was black for a while” – Zooey
Yeah, but he’s a Raven, yeesh.
September 14, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Hahahahaha, willy!
Very funny.
The reason I was late in talking to you was because of a story on HuffPo. (via MSNBC)
Bill Richardson statement:
Something is Wrong when the NE Pat’s Face a Stiffer Penalty for Spying than Cheney/Bush.
September 14, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Willy, I think the fast part is the guy’s fault.
September 14, 2007 at 8:08 pm
wiily, women love that, knucklehead.
September 14, 2007 at 8:09 pm
No Zooey… it’s the guy’s INTENTION!
September 14, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Or when Harold “hangs” himself in the foyer, and his mother walks by, but doesn’t even blink. That’s when I knew I’d love that movie.
September 14, 2007 at 8:10 pm
His “intention?” What? He’s got a dentist appointment?
September 14, 2007 at 8:10 pm
When he whacks off his arm while making small talk…
September 14, 2007 at 8:11 pm
Zooey, I haven’t seen it since, well 1971. The year I graduated high school. Watch it Trueblue. And back then, things were all hazy.
I looked it up.
September 14, 2007 at 8:11 pm
“What? He’s got a dentist appointment?”
wants a nap….
September 14, 2007 at 8:11 pm
My friends and I saw that movie when I was 16 at the Harvard Square Theater, and we snuck in a 6 pack of beer.
September 14, 2007 at 8:12 pm
“wants a nap….”
Not another go?
September 14, 2007 at 8:13 pm
How do you smuggle a six-pack into a theater?
September 14, 2007 at 8:14 pm
I remember the “sneaking beer days”. It was just last week actually. You know they don’t let you drink beer in court? They should have a sign or something.
September 14, 2007 at 8:14 pm
I love it when you can see the exact moment Harold falls in love with Maude.
September 14, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Each person took two beers and put them into their pockets.
September 14, 2007 at 8:14 pm
“Not another go?”
(not doing myself any favors here, am I?)
September 14, 2007 at 8:15 pm
They make you give up your gun and larger knives, too. No sense of humor….
September 14, 2007 at 8:15 pm
(not doing myself any favors here, am I?)
Just sayin’….
September 14, 2007 at 8:16 pm
You know they don’t let you drink beer in court?
That is so funny, willy.
September 14, 2007 at 8:16 pm
How about when he sees her naked?
Just imagine Rudy Giuliani naked in the stall next to Larry Craig with some babywipes….
September 14, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Doesn’t matter, he’s in love already.
No, I will not imagine that, Willy. I will not….
September 14, 2007 at 8:17 pm
I know it was cruel, but I had to throw that image out there for blog-o-land….
September 14, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Zooey,
All this time I’ve been staring at a blank page from my profile/dashboard.
I can’t crop an uploaded pic that is not there.
Shane,
I can use facebook to obtain the same pic I want to use here? How?
September 14, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Is that a beer in your pocket, or……..are you just a kid smuggling beer?
September 14, 2007 at 8:19 pm
True,
Willy said he’d walk you through it…..I think.
September 14, 2007 at 8:20 pm
yes, another first-timer…
September 14, 2007 at 8:20 pm
From the article:
“States have the option of paying the costs, charging the custodial parent, or charging the noncustodial parent.
Two states Florida and West Virginia have announced they will cover the $25 cost.
The large majority of states have opted to make the custodial parent pay.”
So, the “deadbeat dad” (or mom) doesn’t suffer any ill effects from this new tax, just the person who has taken on the task of actually caring for the children.
And, yes, this is a tax. It raises revenue to offset the cost of Bush’s War.
As has been said by many, the cost of Bush’s War will fall upon our children and our grandchildren, and their grandchildren. I just didn’t realize they had started the cost shifing as early as 2005.
September 14, 2007 at 8:21 pm
I want to know, where is the picture located RIGHT NOW? (on the internet”s”? On your hard drive? where?)
September 14, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Is that a beer in your pocket, or……..are you just a kid smuggling beer?
Denim jackets with two inside pockets.
Perfect smuggle spot. No one is going to question how big your boobs are.
September 14, 2007 at 8:22 pm
am I talking to myself? Hello? is this thing on?
September 14, 2007 at 8:23 pm
yes, another first-timer…
Be gentle, willy.
I have it on my hard drive (no sexual connotation there) and on my facebook.
September 14, 2007 at 8:24 pm
“No one is going to question how big your boobs are.”
No one ever has.
Now pay attention to Willy!
September 14, 2007 at 8:25 pm
ok.
you are going to load from your hard drive.
what is the format of the picture? (JPEG, GIFF, PNG)
September 14, 2007 at 8:25 pm
and how big are your boobs?
September 14, 2007 at 8:26 pm
(you all knew that was coming right?)
September 14, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Too big, and it’s a jpeg, I believe.
September 14, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Don’t question me!
September 14, 2007 at 8:26 pm
the reason I ask about the format is too see if that format is supported by the avatar system.
September 14, 2007 at 8:28 pm
go to where the picture is kept on the hard drive (folder it is in) don’t open it; right click on it and scroll down to properties. it will tell you there for sure what it is.
September 14, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Hey, if willy is a boob, how big of boob is he?
September 14, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Ok.
Don’t be angry if it takes a minute, though.
BRB
September 14, 2007 at 8:29 pm
How come I don’t know how to get little smiley faces like Zooey’s.
It’s because Pedro likes her better.
September 14, 2007 at 8:30 pm
“If willy is a boob”? I think that’s been made pretty damn clear so far Shane.
Pedro is a boob.
September 14, 2007 at 8:32 pm
It’s Corel Phot album. When I right click, it gives me the file name and says size is 2046 x 1980pixels 1873k. I still think it’s jpeg, but it doesn’t say when I right click.
September 14, 2007 at 8:34 pm
well, the format is important.
and thats what it looks like is the problem.
can you email me it?
rscdesigns@verizon.net and I will tell you what it is, and convert it if ness.
September 14, 2007 at 8:35 pm
You rock, willy.
September 14, 2007 at 8:36 pm
wait a minute… that thing is massive.
nearly two megs!
September 14, 2007 at 8:36 pm
Hey! I just saw a jpg on it.
Cool.
Now what?
September 14, 2007 at 8:37 pm
that’s got to be sun hi-res or something….
zap it over to me. may have to save it down to JPEG format so that the avatar can pick it up.
can you email it?
September 14, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Well, the puppy is 7 feet tall, and weighs 450 pounds.
September 14, 2007 at 8:37 pm
If “Pedro” keeps taunting me like that, I’m going to have to take him out.
September 14, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Sure, now willy’s a rockin’ boob and Zooey’s 4 smiling faces.
September 14, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Ha, Zooey.
Yep, she’s a monster. That stick in her mouth is really Long Island.
September 14, 2007 at 8:40 pm
2046 x 1980pixels 1873k
1873k refers to the amount of kilabytes in memory for the picture, true.
that may be too big for the avatar software.
are you any good with Corel? can you reduce the size on a copy of it?
September 14, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Do you mean crop it willy?
September 14, 2007 at 8:42 pm
I had a picture of my daughter I could only get on one site if I cropped it even though all the other pictures went through.
September 14, 2007 at 8:42 pm
Can she put it on facebook, and then grab it from there?
September 14, 2007 at 8:42 pm
got it. give me a second
September 14, 2007 at 8:43 pm
I shall try, willy.
BRB.
September 14, 2007 at 8:48 pm
I just sent you a resized jpg biscut.
load that one the same way, and I will walk you through that process.
Just don’t be holding hands….
September 14, 2007 at 8:49 pm
thanks.
September 14, 2007 at 8:49 pm
cute biscut.
(I can’t believe I get away with saying that.)
You think you got away with that?
September 14, 2007 at 8:50 pm
put new biscut in “my pictures”
make sure it’s a file that is not “read only”.
September 14, 2007 at 8:53 pm
someone is paying attention…
Heh.
September 14, 2007 at 8:53 pm
OK. Doing that now.
Will save to the same folder as my other pic’s.
(and she is a cutie, isn’t she?)
And I’ll tell on you Zooey if you make another comment!
September 14, 2007 at 8:54 pm
I have the pic open right now.
September 14, 2007 at 8:55 pm
What? I didn’t do anything. I deny it anyway….yeah.
September 14, 2007 at 8:55 pm
do not save to the same folder.
ok?
put it in “my pictures” in “my documents’
reason: some photo programs creat folders that are “read only” to protect your pictures from getting lost by accident. If that is the case, it won’t allow “avatar” software to use it.
k?
September 14, 2007 at 8:56 pm
Ha!
Don’t distract me, or willy will get angry.
September 14, 2007 at 8:56 pm
oops.
I’ll create another folder.
BRB.
September 14, 2007 at 8:58 pm
the best part of Harold and Maude is when he gets the X-Type Jag and turns it into a herst.
September 14, 2007 at 8:59 pm
She’s in my pic’s
September 14, 2007 at 9:00 pm
good. now if you run XP as the operating system, open another application of TPZOO in a seperate “tab” so we can go thru the loading proces.
if not, we will go piece meal.
September 14, 2007 at 9:01 pm
Have a new window here.
September 14, 2007 at 9:02 pm
k. go to “my dashboard”
“users”
“your profile”
let me know when you are ready
September 14, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Willy seZ:
the best part of Harold and Maude is when he gets the X-Type Jag and turns it into a herst.
I’d forgotten that! He took that thing of beauty, and turned it into a work of art. I bet his mom fainted…
September 14, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Willy,
True doesn’t have dashboard access…
September 14, 2007 at 9:03 pm
under Your Profile and Personal Options
My Picture
what do you see in the box?
September 14, 2007 at 9:05 pm
No dashboard? What holds your empty coffee cups?
September 14, 2007 at 9:05 pm
I have a “Global Dashboard”, so I went to my profile and it has the black pic and upload.
I’m sure that’s OK…. right?
September 14, 2007 at 9:06 pm
true you there?
how do you get to the place where you set up the avatar in the first place?
go there.
and why doesn’t “trueblue’ have dashboard?
September 14, 2007 at 9:07 pm
thats good
September 14, 2007 at 9:07 pm
and why doesn’t “trueblue’ have dashboard?
Yeah!
I want “Paradise by the Dashboard Light!”
September 14, 2007 at 9:07 pm
True is not an author or contributor yet.
September 14, 2007 at 9:07 pm
I want you to click on “browse” and then path to the NEW picture in “my Pictures”
September 14, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Okey-Dokey!
September 14, 2007 at 9:09 pm
September 14, 2007 at 9:11 pm
HOORAY!
Love you, willy.
Will email my boob size for payment!
Bitch.
September 14, 2007 at 9:11 pm
what you are looking for after you browse to the new biscut (we all need new biscuts)…
double click on new biscut…
you should see it in the box.
you are going to see a sizeing box (dashed lines)..
you can pull the corners to the outside edges of the biscut…
once you have the “shape” of the part of the picture picked out the way you want it…
hit upload..
cross fingers and sacrafice two chickens to Pedro (people forget that last part)
September 14, 2007 at 9:12 pm
September 14, 2007 at 9:14 pm
“let me sleep it..
I’ll give you an answer in the morning”
September 14, 2007 at 9:18 pm
Willy, tell her to be patient. She never listens to me.
September 14, 2007 at 9:19 pm
she ran off. just like a woman… tells you something about my life, doesn’t it…
September 14, 2007 at 9:20 pm
maybe she is sacraficing some chickens?
September 14, 2007 at 9:21 pm
Maybe that’s it….unless you like for women to use you and leave. Do you….? Heh.
September 14, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Isn’t that what you told me to do?
Make a sacrifice to Pedro?
September 14, 2007 at 9:22 pm
ah. i’ll take what I can get.
September 14, 2007 at 9:23 pm
did you see your biscut in the box? (man, someone should slap me fo that one)
**SMACK!!**
September 14, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Did you see your “picture” in the “avatar” box?
September 14, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Zooey,
Not nice. You’re abusing your Administrative powers. You can think it, but not say it.
Plus, if you think I’m going to follow thru’ with that, you’re nuts!
September 14, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Wow. Willy, that was a good one.
September 14, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Willy… just as long as your junk isn’t in the box. O.o
September 14, 2007 at 9:26 pm
PS-
Isn’t she a cutie?
September 14, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Yes, True… your Puppy is as cute as a button.
but I still see a black screen, so i am asking you if the picture loaded up?
Yes? No?
September 14, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Somebody is manhandling willy … keep your hands to yourself, children.
September 14, 2007 at 9:29 pm
I’m not as cute as I used to be….
The avatar is black.
September 14, 2007 at 9:30 pm
He loves it…
September 14, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Damn!
I see her.
Those “Internets Tubes” are messing with me.
September 14, 2007 at 9:31 pm
It will probably still take a while to load up. I don’t think anybody’s show up immediately.
He doesn’t know any better, Zooey.
September 14, 2007 at 9:32 pm
I would have put a smiley face on that last post, but PEDRO won’t let me.
September 14, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Be patient! Sometimes it takes a while for US to see it.
September 14, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Shayne,
Type this : and then this ( with no space in between. Or just sacrifice more chickens. Pedro is insatiable.
September 14, 2007 at 9:34 pm
don’t mess with it. if you see it, it will show up.
and you all stop picking on me. i’m just a man
after all…
September 14, 2007 at 9:35 pm
I look forward to seeing your biscut in the avatar True.
heh
September 14, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Not touching that one….
September 14, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Yeah, I’ve heard that before too.
I’m out ladies. Have a good night.
no cesspool parties in a while, may have to fix that…
(Hail Pedro)
September 14, 2007 at 9:38 pm
and you all stop picking on me. i’m just a man
after all…
That’s what makes it fun, willy.
September 14, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Goodnight, Willy. Try not to miss us too much.
September 14, 2007 at 9:41 pm
True,
I didn’t know Biscuit was a black lab.
September 14, 2007 at 9:46 pm
night all.
September 14, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Thank you for all of your help.
I can see my pretty girl, that’s all that matters.
Ppttthhh!
September 14, 2007 at 9:50 pm
I’d have given that puppy to Dick Cheney after the first week.
September 14, 2007 at 9:51 pm
So you’re part of the Cheney/ Puppy Blood Cartel?
September 14, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Actually, I am THE Cheney/Puppy Blood Cartel.
September 14, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Biscuit – run away to Auntie Shayne!
Nooooo…..
September 14, 2007 at 10:01 pm
If you two keep having girl fights we’re going to get a whole different clientele around here.
September 14, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Don’t make me discipline you Zooey!
September 14, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Yeah, Shayne,
Probably a bunch of Republicans…..
Plus, Zooey started it…….
September 14, 2007 at 10:03 pm
See now you too scared willy off. Shame on you two.
September 14, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Don’t make me discipline you Zooey!
Talk about attracting a different clientele!
September 14, 2007 at 10:09 pm
The rethugs will be flocking here trueblue, what was I thinking. Okay, no spanking guys.
September 14, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Discipline?
As if anyone could.
September 14, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Okay, no spanking guys.
Saying that is like honey to the bee.
You’re just asking for it, now.
September 14, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Shayne needs to be warned by Admin.
September 14, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Guys,
I’m tired.
It’s only 10:15 here, but I’m a documented wuss.
Gotta go to sleep.
It was fun.
September 14, 2007 at 10:18 pm
A spanking! A spanking! And then, after the spanking, you must give us…aww, you know the rest!
September 14, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Goodnight, True! Ya weenie!
September 14, 2007 at 10:19 pm
What Wayne, what!? Heh.
September 14, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Good night, true. Glad you had fun at the Zoo.
September 14, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Hey Zooey, I’m not the one fighting over poor willy. Did you see that Wayne, these two are willy groupies, ever since he got top billing.
September 14, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Say goodnite to my godpuppy, tb.
September 14, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Ha-ha! I better let Jane finish it off, in case she drops in later. I haven’t seen our rolling pin lately, and something is telling me that may not be a good sign, though I can’t for the life of me remember why.
September 14, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Nah Shayne, I’ve liked Willy since he invented Cheze Pufes.
September 14, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Cheze Pufes my ass, it’s the kilt! Who do you think you’re kidding?
September 14, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Wayne, sometimes it’s better to forget the painful things. Don’t even think about the rolling pin.
September 14, 2007 at 10:25 pm
The kilt just sealed the deal.
September 14, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Excellent conditioning by Jane. A true artist….
September 14, 2007 at 10:30 pm
If you want to edit this out and turn it into a post, that’s okay, but I found one of my all-time favorite Tom Tomorrow cartoons at:
http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=21610
It’s not current, but it’s always fun to remember them this way. And who it is that wants to help them. Enjoy.
September 14, 2007 at 10:34 pm
Rolling pins and Cheze Poufs? Hmmm… this all somehow seems familiar…
September 14, 2007 at 10:36 pm
Hi TRoS,
Willy will be sorry he missed you. How’s it going?
September 14, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Waaaay tooo busy… I like the extra money, but damn, this schedule is burning me out.
September 14, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Sorry, I disappeared for a bit — had a phone call.
September 14, 2007 at 11:24 pm
S’okay… just cleanin’ house and pickin’ up dirty clothes after a nutty week.
So, are you the mastermind behind this place?
September 14, 2007 at 11:29 pm
One of many.
Willy Loman actually first suggested we start a blog, and then it started working on our brains, and Eggy came to WordPress and started messing around, and here we are!! Isn’t it cool!? Faiz said he reads our stuff everyday.
September 14, 2007 at 11:31 pm
You seemed to get it together awfully fast. TP has been a bit of a ghost town since youse guys opened for business.
Congratulations… an overnight success!
September 14, 2007 at 11:37 pm
They are kicking Bush’s butt on Bill Maher’s show tonight.
September 14, 2007 at 11:38 pm
It did come together amazingly fast. We kind of surprised ourselves. I see us in this for the long haul. It’s totally fun, and there are enough of us who are contributors, that if someone can’t be around much (like me this week), there’s always backup. Eggy & nwmuse have been amazing.
September 14, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Good. Bush needs his butt kicked.
September 14, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Back in 2000, before the election, I remember the first time I saw Bush talk on TV. I remember flinching and thinking, “Dear God (I’m not religious, BTW) don’t let THAT be the next POTUS.”
I kinda thought this would be bad right from the start, but I never imagined it’d be THIS bad. Those putrid Abu Graib sex torture photos? Geez, thanks alot, Bushies! It’s gonna take DECADES to get rid of that taint on the national ID.
I STILL haven’t heard a single rightie anywhere explain how those photos made us all safer. And that doesn’t even begin to cover the civilan death toll in Iraq. Talk about blood on your hands. I shudder to think of the karmic payback George Bush has set this country up for.
September 14, 2007 at 11:46 pm
I know what you mean, TRoS. When I first saw him, I thought, “What a dim wit.” Soon, I realized I owed dim wits an apology. Then, when he actually got the nomination, all I thought was, WTF? I never for a moment thought he’d win — never.
If I hear one more person, even someone I love, say “There are always civilian casualties in war,” I’m going to go ballistic. How can anyone say something so flippant? What if it were their OWN child under rubble? Jeebus…
September 14, 2007 at 11:50 pm
They don’t have to look at the dead bodies, Zooey. The chicken hawk types like [edit] – they’re lucky I don’t know whre they live. When Boner said the other day thta a few dead soldier was a small price to pay, I wanted to throw up.
[Edit]I’m running out of words strong enough to express how outraged and disgusted I am w/ that bunch, and they’re not out of office yet. I am SO afraid they’re going to nuke Iran yet and start WW III.
Edited by Admin, please see comments policy in “About.” Admin.
September 14, 2007 at 11:53 pm
I’ know what you mean, TRoS. It’s sick. and they hold our lives, and our future, in their hands — and think nothing of the enormity of that.
September 14, 2007 at 11:55 pm
Hey, TRoS, nice to see you. I felt the same way when Bush started his 2000 campaign. He was bad enough as a governor who appeared to ENJOY utilizing the death penalty. I always thought that his stupefying ignorance must be obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together. Not to mention that if you knew the least bit about his previous (misad)ventures in the business world, the evidence of his poor judgment should have been enough to turn people away from his candidacy. Every time he f*cked up at some new business, blowing other people’s money, Daddy came along and bailed him out. Well, now it’s more than just Daddy, it’s American citizens and the rest of the world bailing him out.
September 14, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Hi Jane!
September 14, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Oblivious frauds. I actually think freaks like Bill Kristol get off on all the death. They’re one sick freakin’ bunch of puppies.
Uh… what did I just do to get editted? Mentioning someone who shouldn’t be mentioned?
But what was the second edit for? I don’t remember what I said, already.
You’ll receive an email. Admin.
September 15, 2007 at 12:02 am
If I repeat it, I’ll get edited.
Careful. you were Thinking it! Admin.
Willy?
September 15, 2007 at 12:04 am
TRoS, did you see we have a petition to sign to sent to Boehner? Please do.
September 15, 2007 at 12:05 am
Chuck Hagel was on Bill Maher and so much as said that the reason he’s not going to run is because this is the worst foreign policy disaster ever. Carl Bernstein, said there’s never been anything like it.
September 15, 2007 at 12:07 am
And somebody on Bill Maher even said something about all the Republican chickenhawks who think the war is so great and so important and won’t go sign up for it.
September 15, 2007 at 12:09 am
It’s nice to see folks finally owning up to it, but that doesn’t even begin to start fixin’ it. I’m terrified to see what it will take to fix it.
How many DECADES will it take, IF we can? it’s nice to know Repubs will pretty much be out of power for a long time to come, but, Geez, talk about hangovers.
Who’s Admin?
September 15, 2007 at 12:10 am
Where’s the Bohner petition?
September 15, 2007 at 12:11 am
I don’t know where it is. I need to sign it too.
Hi TRoS
I thought you went to bed, ya damn lurker.
September 15, 2007 at 12:11 am
I retitled it so it’s easier to see. I was being to subtle. It’s my thing.
September 15, 2007 at 12:12 am
Willy, your back. I scolded those women for you.
September 15, 2007 at 12:12 am
http://www.dccc.org/
there it is TRoS
September 15, 2007 at 12:13 am
Shayne, next time women want to fight over me…
do me a favor and let them….
September 15, 2007 at 12:14 am
Salesman! Nice to see you, er, read your posts again!
September 15, 2007 at 12:14 am
Looks like I got Zooey’s attention….
September 15, 2007 at 12:14 am
You are so bloodthirsty willy, are you a Republican hiding out here?
September 15, 2007 at 12:14 am
You see me. that’s really my picture.
Cheap plastic surgon….
September 15, 2007 at 12:15 am
Hey, Zooey, Shayne, willy! Willy, thanks for the link, I need to sign it, too.
September 15, 2007 at 12:15 am
I’m so left I make Kucinich look like Ted Stevens.
September 15, 2007 at 12:16 am
Hi Jane. Zooey is pouting… I “lurked”, I think.
You’re a spy, that’s what you are!
September 15, 2007 at 12:17 am
Nice to “see” you Republic. How is TP treating people these days? Any fewer trolls? They are supposed to put some kind of registry up over there.
September 15, 2007 at 12:18 am
Hmmm… If that’s really a picture of ya, I’d love to see yer mom and dad…
Will I get editted if I mention baseball?
Tough loss, huh, Jane. Curse those Phillies!
September 15, 2007 at 12:18 am
BTW, TRoS, good game tonight, but a tough loss. Especially for Glavine, he pitched well. Too many Mets left on base.
September 15, 2007 at 12:19 am
I’m not a spy. and I have liked you since the Cheze Pufes too.
September 15, 2007 at 12:19 am
Hmmm… If that’s really a picture of ya, I’d love to see yer mom and dad…
Will I get editted if I mention baseball?
You will receive an email. Admin.
Tough loss, huh, Jane. Curse those Phillies!
September 15, 2007 at 12:20 am
mom :
and dad : 
not a happy home.
September 15, 2007 at 12:24 am
TP is like the scene of a bad accident, after it’s over. Kinda rundown and grubby. Certain trolls get blipped as soon as they show up, at last.
That was a weird little experience over there, huh? So much fun for a while, then it got so ugly. Will I get editted if I mention certain people?
Yes, TP is putting a reg system in place, finally. It’s kind of a shame, in a way. It was so “immediate” to just log on and start posting. It’s kind of sad to see how much too many people couldn’t handle truly free speech.
September 15, 2007 at 12:26 am
TRoS: Jinx!
September 15, 2007 at 12:26 am
Hi Jane, sorry it took me so long to say that. I was working with nwmuse to put up a film. How was your week. Wayne was fretting over rolling pins earlier. I told him it was better if he didn’t try to remember anything.
September 15, 2007 at 12:27 am
I’m surprised he DID remember anything!
September 15, 2007 at 12:27 am
I was just over at TP — it’s more quiet there than it is here!
It shouldn’t be much to login. Probably like here.
Did I mention that I have chickens in my house?
September 15, 2007 at 12:28 am
Huffpo and other popular blogs are getting that way as well.
I think it is an concerted effort to “regulate” the blogs by the right. Their “cyber wars”. I found that there are some companies that hire out of the Young Republican college groups and pay them next to nothing (beer money) to do it. But it’s just speculation around the web now.
there used to be some companies that did it. One here in Tampa… don’t know if they are still operating anymore.
September 15, 2007 at 12:28 am
TRoS, there has been so much namejacking there that if I try to post my own name they assume it a namejacking and delete it. I have to go and remind them it’s me with my email and then they repost them.
September 15, 2007 at 12:30 am
I think they have to be paid, willy, why would anybody go through all that trouble for free. I think the plan is to shut down sites but they just make people more resolved to keep at it.
September 15, 2007 at 12:31 am
“..why would anybody go through all that trouble for free.”
spineless suck-ups?
September 15, 2007 at 12:34 am
**clearing throat**
Iffy territory, y’all.
Sorry, adm.
September 15, 2007 at 12:35 am
I saw that the other night Shayne. I was watching it happen.
I’m pretty sure somebody/ies work off of scripts over at TP. It’s kind of creepy. There was a comment about 2 months ago – one of the trolls said something about how “the Dems are playing with you guys the way we play w/ our religious nuts”. I remember it because I editted the comment (one of those, “let me fix that for ya” moments…) so it said “the way I play w/ my …” You guys know me by now… anyways, about a full 6 weeks later, I saw the EXACT same phrase in another post. EXACT.
What are the odds of 2 different posters saying the same thing, by chance? Somebody somewhere is working off scripts.
September 15, 2007 at 12:35 am
Did you say you have chickens in your house Zooey?
September 15, 2007 at 12:38 am
Or it was the same guy, working off the same script, with two names.
but either way, it was still a “script”.
September 15, 2007 at 12:39 am
I do have chickens in my house, Willy. Mad chickens! No — rabid chickens. And they’re after me! They can only be stopped with CHEESE!
September 15, 2007 at 12:39 am
It seems that things went really crazy when Karl Rove left for greener pastures. I won’t say he quit because you just know he’s working on something evil out of the public eye.
September 15, 2007 at 12:40 am
http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/your-govt-at-work/#comment-10511
Zooey…
September 15, 2007 at 12:41 am
Oooooh… did someone mention “Cheese”???
(I don’t think Rove is gone either…)
September 15, 2007 at 12:41 am
Heh.
I thought you trying to divert the above conversation….
September 15, 2007 at 12:42 am
“They can only be stopped with CHEESE!”
I’ll be right over! Grab a flashlight and a box-o-wine and wait for me in the basement!
I’ll bring the Cheze Pufes too distract them and two tickets to Guam for our get away!
September 15, 2007 at 12:42 am
Yes…..cheese! It’s a better topic.
September 15, 2007 at 12:43 am
I laughed so hard when i was typing that, I couldn’t look at the screen… and it’s stupid!
It’s hilarious!
September 15, 2007 at 12:44 am
I’ll be waiting, Willy!
Um, I hope the boys downstairs don’t mind me hiding out there….I’ll distract them with the wine!
September 15, 2007 at 12:45 am
Cheese… it’s nature’s perfect food!
September 15, 2007 at 12:45 am
Baesment. Bad Idea! Wait in the Bathtub! much better… no boys in the bathtub…
September 15, 2007 at 12:45 am
I thought nature’s perfect food was salsa. How would it be cheese?
September 15, 2007 at 12:46 am
Florida to Idaho, he’ll be there in no time. Crazy people …
September 15, 2007 at 12:47 am
Willy, how do you know there are no boys in my bathtub?
Now I’m laughing too hard…
Call it a hunch.
September 15, 2007 at 12:47 am
How young are these boys downstairs, Zooey? After you barge in, snap a couple of pictures and share.
The Admin is Shocked! Shocked I say.
September 15, 2007 at 12:47 am
I’m patient, Shayne. I raised the men.
September 15, 2007 at 12:49 am
Do you mean patient enough for willy to show up or patient enough for the boys downstairs to grow up?
September 15, 2007 at 12:50 am
may take longer for me to get there…
September 15, 2007 at 12:50 am
The boys are college aged, but not college students. I don’t know what they do. But they do have a dog my dog wants to kill. So annoying…
September 15, 2007 at 12:51 am
Are these “real” boys Zooey? or Pretend boys?
September 15, 2007 at 12:51 am
I’ll be patient for Willy.
The Admin is no longer shocked.
Heh.
September 15, 2007 at 12:52 am
Ummm… this whole bathtub deal is startin’ to creep me out.
Salsa and nachos, plus cold beer… all the major food groups!
September 15, 2007 at 12:52 am
They’re real boys! They’re brothers. My condo is on the second floor, theirs is on the first. Why?
September 15, 2007 at 12:53 am
“Salsa and nachos, plus cold beer… all the major food groups!”
I agree. Except for the Salsa and Nachos part.
September 15, 2007 at 12:54 am
No liquid cheese on the nachos. Blech…
September 15, 2007 at 12:58 am
Family background. Bad stuff…
Hold the nachos, hold the cheese?
Oh, a “traditionalist” huh?
Ever see “Five Easy Pieces”, the famous “Toast” scene w/ Nicholson?
September 15, 2007 at 12:58 am
try to keep this rule of thumb in mind;
“Beer will get you thru times of no ( nachos )..
Better than ( nachos ) will get you thru times of no beer.”
if that holds true for any food item then that food item is not a valid food group and you don’t need it in your diet.
September 15, 2007 at 12:59 am
That is science! And pure logic!
September 15, 2007 at 1:00 am
I never saw “5 Easy Pieces”. good?
September 15, 2007 at 1:02 am
Lemon popsicles will always get me through times of no beer.
A six-pack would last me almost a whole week, and I’d have a nice buzz every night — no fun alone.
September 15, 2007 at 1:07 am
ok. so much for that thread…..
wanna go back to talking about {edit]?
Damn you!
heeheehee
I’ve gotta watch you every second…..
September 15, 2007 at 1:07 am
Ummm… how many bottles of “science” have you had tonight so far, good salesman?
September 15, 2007 at 1:08 am
Egg salad sandwich, hold the egg, hold the mayo, now just bring me the toast?
September 15, 2007 at 1:10 am
That’s the funny thing… i don’t drink at all, really. That’s fun, huh?
I only drink Bass when I drink. and I only drink when I go out. and lately, I never go out.
September 15, 2007 at 1:12 am
But i am putting a dent in a bottle of Coke Zero, or whatever you call it..Used to be Tab I think.
September 15, 2007 at 1:12 am
Yeah, “Five Easy Pieces” was one of the better films of its time. Directed by Bob Rafelson, if I’m not mistaken.
Shayne, that’s almost it. It was chicken salad. The restaurant won’t sell Jack just toast, so he orders the chicken salad sandwich and tells the waitress to hold the mayo and the lettuce, and when she asks about the chicken salad, he tells her to “hold it between your knees”, in that sneering tone only Nicholson can do.
It was the best scene in the movie, and one that helped make Jack famous.
September 15, 2007 at 1:13 am
Bass? You drink fish juice? And Tab?
Ugh.
September 15, 2007 at 1:14 am
The Shining was his real breakout movie though,wasn’t it? i remember seeing that in the theatres. jesus, scared the piss out of me.
September 15, 2007 at 1:16 am
Fish juice is all the rage in Guam! it’s the new black!
September 15, 2007 at 1:19 am
I think Nicholson’s break out film was either “China Town” or “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.” Both excellent films, and I’m not that big of a fan of Nicholson.
Well, I like to wear black, but I ain’t wearing fish. Or fish juice.
September 15, 2007 at 1:19 am
That scene and the scene from A Few Good Men where he loses it are awesome. That’s the only movie I ever liked Tom Cruise int.
September 15, 2007 at 1:20 am
“Little Shop of Horrors”.
(The original by Roger Corman.)
September 15, 2007 at 1:20 am
Willy is so wrong, pink is the new black. Which would you rather wear, pink or fish juice?
September 15, 2007 at 1:21 am
Wayne, You’ll Be a Dentist?
September 15, 2007 at 1:21 am
Depends on the pink.
September 15, 2007 at 1:22 am
The lifetime roll for jack was “Chinatown”. Jake Gittes… a sleazy LA private eye. One of the best American movies of the last 50 years. The script, by Robert Towne, is generally regarded as the BEST script of the modern era in film.
After that Jack was one of the biggest names in Hollywood. He won his Oscar for “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” and wore high top sneakers w/ his tuxedo at the Oscars ceremony.
He started in film in the early ’60’s w/ Roger Corman, and got his 1st “breakthru” part in “Easy Rider”. After that, the parts got better and better.
“The Last Detail”, w/ a very young Randy Quaid, “Five Easy Pieces”, “Carnal Knowledge”… quite a career for Jackie!
September 15, 2007 at 1:22 am
Nicholson was great in “The Shining”, too.
Heeeeeeerree’sss Johnny!
Smashes the door open and says, with a big, fake grin on his face and an axe in his hands, “Honey, I’m home.”
Great acting.
September 15, 2007 at 1:27 am
I thought Jack was a bit over the top in The Shining. The movie was creepy though.
September 15, 2007 at 1:30 am
Nicholson has been in some true classics. “Postman..” “Easy Rider” “Chinatown” so many great films, but I think his individual work in “The Shining” will probably be viewed as his best, at least as far as I am concerned.
Like Anthony Hopkins did better films than “Silence of the Lambs” his work was impecable. (so was Jody Foster by the way). Like Marlon Brando’s “Streetcar…”, sometimes the performance transends the production and becomes history unto itself.
“The Shining” wasn’t a great script. Nicholson made it a great film.
September 15, 2007 at 1:31 am
“I thought Jack was a bit over the top in The Shining.”
You prefer a more sedate family axe murderer?
September 15, 2007 at 1:32 am
Have you seen Anthony Hopkins in Fractured? Very good…
September 15, 2007 at 1:34 am
No, not sedate, just not cliche`. I think in the book he said something like “Daddy’s home!” Can’t remember for sure.
He was already doing his “Jack” thing, the “Here’s Johnnie” thing made me roll my eyes.
September 15, 2007 at 1:35 am
Wayne, I just watched that clip on youtube. I figured he played the dentist like Steve Martin. Must have been one of his first.
September 15, 2007 at 1:37 am
I’m sorry. that was unfair. jack Torrence undergoes an amazing transition thru out the film, but what is interesting about his performance… and it is very subtle…
At the end when they say he has ‘always been the care taker”…
you can go back to the begining of the film and watch his scene with the guy to get the job, sitting across the deck from this guy, and there is that nervous energy like a desperate man who really needs the job, but also, somewhere deep down, there is something else. Something very menacing in Jacks eyes when the interviewer brings up the reason Jack stopped teaching school.
He doesn’t give anything away, just a pathetic/manic quality to Jack Torrence right off the bat.
Yet, when you read the “book” he had been typeing the whole time, and it is pages of the same line over and over,
don’t lie, scared the shit out of you!
September 15, 2007 at 1:40 am
You mean to tell me that when she was crying and trying to patheticly swing that bat at him coming up the stairs, that didn’t freak you out?
“I’m not gonna hurt you! i’m not gonna hurt you! i’m just gonna bash your fucking brains out!”
come on now.
September 15, 2007 at 1:41 am
Willy,
The “Jack thing” I was talking about was Jack Nicholson indulging himself at that point by playing himself, not Jack Torrance.
Hell yeah, it was fucking creepy at the beginning — more than the stack of paper saying the same thing over and over — and that as damn scary!
September 15, 2007 at 1:42 am
Now Anthony Hopkins, I really like. Fractured is good?
September 15, 2007 at 1:44 am
willy,
I agree that Jack was great in “The Shining”, but I was disappointed at the seemingly arbitrary changes to the original story. Between the composite characters and the wrong ones getting killed off, and the other bizarre details that Kubrick changed, almost made it seem like another film. I realize that duplicatng the book’s ending could have proved costly, but I understand they did it in the King-authorized ABC movies.
And what the hell was wrong with Shelley Duvall when she was talking on the radio? It felt awkward.
September 15, 2007 at 1:47 am
Shelley Duvall, that’s who she is. I always think of her as Olive Oyl.
September 15, 2007 at 1:47 am
maybe Shelley wasn’t that good of an actress?
the only character story line changes was Scatman Cruthers gettin killed with the ax, rather than knocked out with an ice mallet.
Better I think, because the two have to save themselves.
The hotel blowing up wasn’t cut for the money (I don’t think) i think it was done to continue the cycle…hotel blows up, it’s over. he dies in the maze, he is the caretaker later.
September 15, 2007 at 1:48 am
I’ve always liked Nicholson’s work, if you couldn’t tell by my prior comments. I think “Chinatown” is almost perfect, as films go.
Ever see the Simpsons’ spoof of “The Shining”? It’s one of the Halloween “Treehouse of Horror” episodes, I think.
Redrum, redrum, redrum…
You know a role Nicholson would have been perfect for? A remake of “Double Indemnity”… the Fred McMurray part. One of my favorite films…
September 15, 2007 at 1:48 am
“pages of the same line over and over”
It’s too bad that when the film was made, they didn’t have all of the type fonts that we have: that would have been even creepier in “Chiller” font, with red ink.
I occasionally use that in emails to our company president. He laughs.
September 15, 2007 at 1:48 am
what, you guys didn’t think I read the book? ha
September 15, 2007 at 1:49 am
Willy,
I liked Fractured. It’s one of those intense battles of the minds. Hopkins just vibrates sometimes.
September 15, 2007 at 1:49 am
I’ld like to see Nicholson as Richard III.
September 15, 2007 at 1:51 am
TRoS, that Simpsons’ “The Shinning” was a great Halloween episode. I love their Treehouse of Horror specials.
September 15, 2007 at 1:52 am
Can Nicholson play anyone but himself anymore? He seems like John Wayne to me now.
September 15, 2007 at 1:53 am
Why Richard III, Willy?
September 15, 2007 at 1:55 am
I don’t know Zooey. Richard is probably out of his range at this point.
Perhaps Lear would be a better match for his antics.
“Blow, winds, and crack your cheeks! rage! blow!Rage On!”
old man who ws once great king, now watching all he had torn apart for nothing.
September 15, 2007 at 1:59 am
King Lear, the poster boy for hubris.
I think Jack is just out there having fun now — he’s not hungry anymore.
September 15, 2007 at 1:59 am
He is a twisted villian. but probably to young for jack to pull off. Richard is a coniving manipulator looking to draw england to war. neocon, really.
maybe lear is better. I don’t know if he’s ever done anything like that before though.
September 15, 2007 at 2:01 am
Hey Willy, I’m having fun.
September 15, 2007 at 2:02 am
Jack Nicholson as “June Cleaver”.
September 15, 2007 at 2:04 am
i’m done ranting about jackyboy.
night all
been fun.
September 15, 2007 at 2:05 am
‘Night, willy. Congrats again on your ‘mention’.
September 15, 2007 at 2:09 am
Goodnight, Willy. Again.
September 15, 2007 at 2:10 am
Jane,
Willy’s getting famous, and hobnobs with the Peace heroes.
September 15, 2007 at 2:13 am
Crap, look at the time. I better get to bed.
Goodnight, Jane, Wayne & TRoS! Keep an eye on the place.
September 15, 2007 at 2:14 am
“pages of the same line over and over”
Ever hear that story about William Faulkner in Hollywood? It’s supposedly true. Bill got hired to write scripts for the princely sum of $5K/wk by one of the major studios. An unGodly amt of money for the times. They’d ask him for some dialogue and he’d give ‘em a 40 page monolgue.
He hated it in Hollywood and just left one day for Mississippi. Afterwards, they went in to clean out his desk and all they found was an empty whiskey bottle and a legal pad, on which he had writeen “Boy meets girl”, “Boy meets girl”, “Boy meets girl”. over and over again, page after page.
Serposed ta be a true story!
Yes, Jane, the Treehouse of Horror episodes are some of the best. Ever see the one where aliens abduct the Simpsons and Homer almost blows out their tractor beam when they try to pick him up?
September 15, 2007 at 2:15 am
‘Night, salesman… later!
September 15, 2007 at 2:26 am
G’night, Zooey.
TRoS, of course I’ve seen that episode, what kind of a Simpsons’ fan do you think I am?!
I like “King Homer”, great lines and visuals. And, as a Jets fan, I love the natives chanting “Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!”
We just lent a friend at work the DVD of the season when the Germans buy the power plant. That one has some of the greatest lines, as well as Homer’s “Land of Chocolate” fantasy.
September 15, 2007 at 2:36 am
Good night, Zooey and willy.
“Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk”
“I have been chosen to speak to you because I am the least threatening. Perhaps I remind you of your lovable Sgt Shultz?”
“Do we have any alcoholics here?”
“Yeah, I am.”
“Me, too.”
“I’m drunk now.”
“You will all be sent to our drying out facility in Hawaii for six weeks.”
Homer (who kept quiet): Lucky drunks.
September 15, 2007 at 2:37 am
Geez, Jane… I don’t know how closely you follow the Simpsons. Apparently, quite closely. I personally think the Simpsons are brilliant.
Not unlike John Stewart, huh? Both shows started out simply wanting to entertain, but there was such an unlying sharpness and honesty to the material, they both became something much bigger as time went on. It’s weird when you end up trusting cartoon characters and wise-ass comics to be more honest than the MSM or yer elected officials.
“Purple’s a fruit.” H Simpson
“I’d gladly give it all up for just a little bit more…”
M Burns
September 15, 2007 at 2:40 am
Nothing beats the Guatemalan Insanity Pepper episode. Sort of Homer meets Carlos Castenada type deal
September 15, 2007 at 2:54 am
Sorry, TRoS, you couldn’t know that our family (me, Wayne, my brother/Wayne’s sister, and our niece and nephew) uses ‘Simpsonspeak’ sort of like an internal language.
dbadass, I agree, that’s one of the best episodes ever.
September 15, 2007 at 2:59 am
The one where Waylon Jennings does the coyote’s voice? Doesn’t Homer drink candlewax so the chile won’t burn his throat?
I used to have friends I could do Simpsonspeak w/ too. And before that it was Monty Python! Whole routines, almost word for word.
September 15, 2007 at 3:00 am
“There goes our Dental Plan”
“Lisa needs a new pair of braces”
“There goes our Dental Plan”
“Lisa needs a new pair of braces”
“There goes our Dental Plan”
“Lisa needs a new pair of braces”
“There goes our Dental Plan”
“Lisa needs a new pair of braces”
(guy behind Homer drops pencil down his butt crack)
Homer: Hey, I’m trying to concentrate!
“There goes our Dental Plan”
“Lisa needs a new pair of braces”
“There goes our Dental Plan”
“Lisa needs a new pair of braces”
“There goes our Dental Plan”
“Lisa needs a new pair of braces”
Homer: Wait a minute, if we lose our dental plan, I’m going to have to pay for Lisa’s braces!
September 15, 2007 at 3:01 am
Actually, TRoS, it was Johnny Cash who did the coyote’s voice. I liked it when Homer gave a wrong answer and the coyote started gnawing on Homer’s leg.
September 15, 2007 at 3:02 am
One of the things that always amazed me about the Simpsons was how they could maintain the quality of the writing, yr after yr.
It’s the only animated show I know of where they do the voices first, and then set the pictures to the dialogue. Unique approach. And such a great ensemble. I was so sad when Phil Hartman died. They’ve never done Lionel Hutz since then, have they?
September 15, 2007 at 3:06 am
We can, more or less, do the Monty Python skits, too, as you saw the other night. And the movies…and the records…yeah, we have no life…sigh
September 15, 2007 at 3:09 am
No, no more Lionel Hutz, and all of the other characters voiced by Hartman…what a terrible shame, I miss him and them.
September 15, 2007 at 3:15 am
It was Johnny Cash?
Hmmm… maybe it was an episode of “Married W/ Children” where Waylon played this mystic guru living on a mountain top that Al seeks advice from…
Yeah, I miss Phil’s personality on that show. Did you know he was a graphic artist before becoming an actor, and he designed the CSNY logo from the early 70’s?
Sometimes I think guys like him, Hank Azaria, and the best of ‘em all – Mel Blanc, have more interesting careers and more fun than a big “star” **cough… cough** like Tom Cruise.
Can you imagine how much fun it must have been to work w/ Chuck Jones and Mel Blanc on Bugs Bunny cartoons during the so-called “Golden Age” of WB cartoons? I always loved Daffy the most. He was just hysterical when he’d get flustered.
September 15, 2007 at 3:22 am
TRoS,
I love the three Duck Season-Rabbit Season-themed cartoons. They were each slightly diffrent versions of the same idea.
And, of course,
“Oh, Broom Hilda, yowe so wove-wy”
“Yes, I know it, I can’t help it”
September 15, 2007 at 3:29 am
Chuck Jones and Mel Blanc were geniuses. All of the characters were great, especially some of the secondary ones, like Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam. I also loved Porky Pig, particulary the one with Sylvester when they stay in the haunted house.
September 15, 2007 at 3:39 am
When explaining the different forms of biological symmetry I used to refer the kids to the Hassan Chop bugs/daffy toon. I would then chop assorted stuff with a kitchen simitar. Now they don’t know the toon so I don’t do it anymore.
September 15, 2007 at 3:46 am
Dbadass, that’s too bad, “kids these days”, they don’t know what they’re missing.
One of our favorites is the classic “Little Red Riding Rabbit”:
“Hey, Grandma! What big eyes for you….to HAVE!” “Yeah, yeah, big eyes, big eyes…”
And on that note, I’ll bid you, and anyone else who’s still awake here, goodnight!
September 15, 2007 at 4:01 am
Jane
I hope you are asleep by now but upon reflection, I should go back to this. Nothing illustrates bilateral symmetry better than Daffy being split in half. I would need to find that episode to make the lesson come together
“Chop the rabbit, he brought us here”
September 15, 2007 at 4:08 am
There’s one cartoon where Daffy turns to the camera and starts to smile. I think it’s the one about Ali Baba’s cave, and how Bugs and Daffy discover it by accident. Once Daffy realizes what they’ve just stumbled into, he smiles more and more until he’s falshing this huge set of square, white teeth.
We’re talkin’ real choppers here, folks. It’s a perfect moment. I have always wanted a still of that smile and those teeth.
September 15, 2007 at 8:32 am
Look: trueblue’s avatar is up!
Why am I thinking of “The Scarlet Pumpernicle”?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Pumpernickel
September 15, 2007 at 11:35 am
I find this preposterous.