KUCINICH IS DOING IT!! Tomorrow!

via: Raw Story

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) announced he would move to force a vote next week on his resolution calling for the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney.

“The momentum is building for impeachment,” Kucinich said in a statement on his Web site. “Millions of citizens across the nation are demanding Congress rein in the Vice President’s abuse of power.

Kucinich said he plans to introduce a privileged resolution, which would have priority for a House floor vote, on Nov. 6. A vote on the measure would be required within two days.

Observers expect a motion to table Kucinich’s resolution, which has 21 Democratic co-sponsors. It is almost certain that such a move to kill the resolution would be successful, but activists are urging members of Congress to support Kucinich’s move.

We need you to ask your representative to vote No on tabling, Yes on giving impeachment a chance,” wrote David Swanson on the pro-impeachment Website AfterDowningStreet.org. “Those who vote Yes to table cannot use the excuse that ‘We don’t have the votes,’ since others will at that same instant with exactly the same exertion be voting No. Please scroll down to contact Congress and the media right away!”

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has long said that impeachment was “off the table” and Kucinich has had little success spurring legislative action on his resolutions, despite the growing number of lawmakers who have signed on as co-sponsors since it was introduced this spring.

Kucinich Will Introduce Privileged Resolution To Force Up Or Down Vote On Cheney Impeachment

WASHINGTON, D.C. (November 2, 2007) — Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) announced today that he will be offering a privileged resolution on the House floor next week that will bring articles of impeachment against the Vice President, Richard B. Cheney.

“The momentum is building for impeachment,” Kucinich said. “Millions of citizens across the nation are demanding Congress rein in the Vice President’s abuse of power.

“Despite this groundswell of opposition to the unconstitutional conduct of office, Vice President Cheney continues to violate the U.S. Constitution by insisting the power of the executive branch is supreme.

“Congress must hold the Vice President accountable. The American people need to let Members of Congress know how they feel about this. The Vice President continues to use his office to advocate for a continued occupation of Iraq and prod our nation into a belligerent stance against Iran. If the Vice President is successful, his actions will ensure decades of disastrous consequences.”

The privileged resolution has priority status for consideration on the House floor. Once introduced, the resolution has to be brought to the floor within two legislative days, although the House could act on it immediately. Kucinich is expected to bring it to the House floor on Tuesday, November 6.

H. Res. 333, Articles of Impeachment against the Vice President, has 21 cosponsors. They are: Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Robert Brady (D-PA), Yvette Clarke (D-NY), Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO), Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN), Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA), Rep. Bob Filner (D-CA), Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX), Rep. Henry Johnson (D-GA), Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI), Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA), Rep. James Moran (D-VA), Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ), Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Rep. Edolphus Towns (D-NY), Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), Rep. Diane Watson (D-CA), Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) and Rep. Albert Wynn (D-MD).

All right folks! Time to man the phones and send in those emails to your Representatives in Congress!! As long as Nancy Pelosi has taken impeachment off the table, this is probably the closest we are going to get.
Again, here is the contact info you need.

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73 thoughts on “KUCINICH IS DOING IT!! Tomorrow!

  1. Go Dennis! Make the House take a stand. I think the real reason the motion to table the resolution is likely to pass is because our Congressmen are too chickenshit to stand up to the Vice President. They shouldn’t be. The Capitol Hill Police will not let Cheney into the House with a gun.

    I have already written my congressman, John Hall (NY-19), “Still the One” former rock’n’roll star in Congress, asking him to support H. Res 333. He wrote back saying he couldn;t because he did not feel there was enough evidence to convict. I will write back and ask him to take a closer look.

    When I met him at a fund raiser, I told him that the abuse of power by Bush and Cheney were my number one concern. All other High Crimes and Misdemeanors out of this administration flow from them. Get rid of them, and you go a long way to restoring the nation to the constitutional status it once enjoyed. He’s going to have to explain to me again why he won’t vote for the resolution. Hopefully, I can convince him to vote against tabling the motion. That’s the coward’s way out.

  2. I sent one to my Rep., doubt he will support us(Mica -R- FL), but there is always hope.

  3. Not a chance, folks; sorry. It won’t get off the ground because of the upcoming election. As soon as the first round of the primaries are done and the Kuciniches and other marginals are eliminated by the HillBill machine, the Dem leadership will deepsix the word ‘impeach’ through November. Doing otherwise likely would put the GOP nominee in the White House.

    You all really don’t understand how this all works, do you? All kowtowing to the Left ends after the nomination is assured; no one wants another McGovern ‘Death March’.

  4. I have to be able to believe there is still some justice in our country. If not, then what is the point of trying. I understand the game of politics, but the number of outraged people in this country just might finally overwhelm the number of politicians and ‘the game’.
    I AM hoping. I may be disappointed, but I can still hope.

  5. I’m with you on this, nwmuse. We can’t give up. I started following politics more closely back in 1992, when Bill Clinton ran for president. He is the reason Jane and I registered to vote. That and hearing someone say, “If you don’t vote, you can’t bitch.”

    And it’s true that the more I learned about the real ways of Washington (and that took about ten years), the more I learned how necessary it is to continue to fight them. While we still have the right to free speech (technically, if not in reality), while we still have the right to peaceably assemble (even if we are being surveilled by the feds when doing so), while we still have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances (even if it is behind a fence a mile away from their eyes and ears), we must still continue to fight. We must be the ones who show our fellow citizens that they don’t have to keep taking it, time after time after time. We can use our votes.

    They get away with stealing elections not just by electronic voting machines that switch Democratic votes to Republican (I have yet to hear of one that switched a Republican vote to a Democratic one), but by simply not counting large blocs of votes from areas they know go Blue, by throwing away absentee ballots they suspect by zip code are Blue votes, and by purging innocent people from the voter rolls through caging and other techniques, none of them legal. We have to fight them. We cannot give up. There’s just too much to lose. And if you don’t want to do it for yourself, then do it for the ones you love. Never give up, never surrender. I’ll be right there with all of you.

  6. Thanks Wayne. By the way, did you see “Hacking Democracy”? I bought the DVD. If you haven’t seen it, I will loan it to you.
    All those voter caging lists are still out there. Between that, the intimidation, the voting machines, etc……., I still have my doubts, even if all of America votes Democratic, that this election is already fixed. It makes me ill. Greg Palast has been yelling about this for years. My fear is that people won’t get mad and make something happen to clean it up, they will lose heart and quit trying. I just don’t know what it will take to fire people up like people at the beginning of our nation were fired up.

  7. That’s most kind of you, my friend. And I shall endeavor to convince Jane to sit with me and watch it quickly so as to return it soonest. But rest assured, it would not leave my house otherwise – I don’t “re-loan” things I don’t own.

    Now, I’ve got me some writin’ to do.

  8. Shayne,
    I only have his IPA and URL via his ISP. I only warned him. If you want more, I can provide it in a direct manner outside this forum. I would rather let a slap on the hand be the extent of this matter.

  9. “We know who you are.” Wow, I’m just terrified.
    I guess no one in here can stand having someone change this place from an echo chamber, so impled threats are in order?

    I love it when the Left tries to sound ominous, forgetting that it’s our side of the aisle who generally make use of the 2nd Amendment. And some of us, when properly trained, go out and obtain CHLs (Concealed Handgun Licenses). Comes in handy while traveling is some rough areas of Africa doing charity work.

  10. you know what just is so glaringly obvious, mope… and yet you right wingers always seem to miss it? You guys do have registered guns and permits…
    and that is great…
    till The State hands over the list of registered firearms to Blackwater, Like in N.O. and they come get your guns…
    but the liberals? All those radical, pissed off, gang members and thugs? Registered? Hell fuckin no.
    So they get to keep theirs! and most of them are converted to full auto!
    So, you have your little “gun” if it makes you feel better… but when the shit hits the fan, like in Pakistan today, you keep a lookout for that Blackwater van, buddy. They will be there soon.

  11. And you mopie forget about all those concealed weapons withough licenses are on our side of the aisle. You know it the “liberal” inner cities where people use automatic weapons to shoot up the neighborhood everyday. You shitkickers taking target practice out in the sticks are too funny thinking liberals don’t own guns. Not belonging to the NRA fascist is not the same as not owning a gun.

    That being said, nobody was threatening you with violence. But you’re not scaring anybody so get over yourself.

  12. Not to forget willy in the cities there’s more guns in one square mile than in some whole towns. These shitkickers just don’t get it.

  13. yeah, Shayne, and old ‘tuff-guy” badass here doesn’t seem to get, again, is every month or so, some redstate guy will get shot in a hunting accident or something…

    where as in the “big city” they’ll shoot your ass for looking at them the wrong way! Every damn 30 seconds someone gets shot in this country by some “liberal” who forgot that it’s the conservatives with the guns.

    Wake Up! Start to make some connections, mopey! Who’s getting killed; who’s doing the shooting! and Who has the guns?

    Think for yourself for a change… it’s fun.

  14. Comes in handy while traveling is some rough areas of Africa doing charity work.

    In case you weren’t aware of this (and I’m as sure that you aren’t as I am that you’ve never been to Africa, let alone done charity work there), your 2nd Amendment “right” to carry a concealed weapon in the US means nothing in Africa. Our laws don’t apply there. For all you know, you could get shot coming off the plane just for carrying a concealed weapon. Your constitutional rights only mean something within the US, not the entire world. That’s what “sovereignty” (something Bush knows nothing about) means.

  15. “as I am that you’ve never been to Africa, let alone done charity work there)”

    That pretty much says it all; having ‘been’ might make you sound a bit more knowledgeable.

    The permission is granted by the governments there; having the CHL here makes that much easier (and cheaper; the corruption there is always something to deal with).

    I imagine you’re one that wants to ‘Save Darfur’; only those of us who have been in the real world realize that would require ‘Invading Sudan’ (as the U.N. efforts there currently are making glaringly obvious). That’s the difference between talking and doing.

    BTW, Juan; don’t insult Hemmingway that way :))

  16. Your little word games do not convince me of the veracity of your statements, mopenshaw, nor of the validity of your opinions. But I do hope you stay safe (wherever you really are). And if what you say is true, then it sounds like you have far more important things to do than to visit a progressive blog and throw around macho tough talk. Go help someone who’s dying then.

  17. The LRA carry automatic weapons in [edit]; and practice canabalism. I still do charity work there, so I doubt the keyboard ‘tough guys’ in here concern me overmuch.

    “Shitkicker”, not. ‘NRA Fascist?’ Not. But I sure love to see you guys reduced to name-calling and profanity; shows it doesn’t take a great deal to blow your logic circuitbreakers.

  18. No word games involved, and I am what I am. I come to places like this for a differing view and to occasionally point out the extensive misconceptions many (but not all) liberals have of us conservatives. I do so, because at least you guys care about what is going on and are not the sad sacks who think the latest ‘Lost’ episode is the most important thing in life. If nothing else, possibly I can teach you a few things about your ‘enemy’ (like we are far from homogeneous in opinion or action) and therefore you might learn to be more effective. Me, I look at liberals as political adversaries, who sometimes need to keep a sense of humor. That’s not an ‘enemy’; those are people who behead children (Iraq) and cook their teachers in pots for the kids consumption ([edit]). That is just pure evil.

    If you want to understand more, My political stuff is at:
    http://datatroll.wordpress.com
    [edit]

    And you are right, Wayne; I have other things to do. At 53, I work weekend and evenings on contract on top of my ‘day job’ to afford to support African orphans. And before you assume you know the source of my charitable nature, I haven’t been in a church more than a dozen times in 20 years. You see, we conservatives don’t all fit in the nice neat boxes we seem to be placed in when a place becomes an echo chambers.

  19. mopen… As far as “name calling” is concerned, I refered to you as the old bad ass, because you brought up “fire arms” in the middle of a thread, out of the blue…

    “I love it when the Left tries to sound ominous, forgetting that it’s our side of the aisle who generally make use of the 2nd Amendment.”

    I am simply reminding you that “the Left” isn’t made up of bunches of tree huggers and crystal wearers. “the Right” often forgets that…

    Now, I would be alot more impressed with your service to the people of Africa if:

    A. You did it simply for the good of humanity and didn’t attach some prostylatising service to it. If that is the case, and you are not there to “spread the word” then, great for you.

    B. You didn’t throw your charity work in people’s faces as if it were your badge of honor. Discression is the better part of valor. So is humility.

    But I guess that is to be expected if you go there to satisfy your own ego in the first place. God Bless.

  20. No, I just brought the charity stuff up in context because we conservatives are often portrayed as uncaring; the gun reference only from the clearly implied threat. Since I attend church about 1% as often as my kids in [edit], the only ‘prostylatising’ would be in the other direction, but they have good manners, respect an individual’s decision in the area and don’t.

    The charity stuff is what I love to do, simply because there’s a lot of bang for the buck; until you do it (and not count on some, big nameless government to do it), you can’t possibly understand how great it is. It’s a badge of honor I wear alright; but I do so because I help some really fantastic people ‘be all they can be’. No politicing involved, save my disgust for the level of corruption and incompetance that leaves AIDS patients without medication while $2 mil of ‘free’ medication rots in warehouses. U.S. politics is a different kettle of fish.

    In fact, one of my ‘nieces’ was up for a PAM award (East Africa equivelent to a Grammy) as best Rwandan artist today. Pretty good for a Rwandan genocide survivor (you know, that ugly little thing that went on unchallenged during Bill’s watch).

  21. I gotta agree with you on one thing mopenshaw, you look nothing like Hemingway. Sorry Juan.

    Interesting that they allow you to carry weapons on airplanes and into foreign countries. Frankly I’d be afraid to get caught with a gun in Mexico and you’re risking some guy in subsaharan Africa getting pissed off because some white guy who goes to “work” with young locals is carrying a weapon.

    The biggest difference between you people and liberals is the cherry picking. You think that you should give to people YOU want to give to. And then your money shouldn’t go to anybody you don’t feel should really be needy. And liberals trust that there are more needy than get help and we don’t want any of our children to be that needy.

  22. Interesting though that while in one breath you accuse Clinton of doing nothing in Rwanda you attack us for wanting to do something about Darfur. It’s just this kind of hypocricy that makes you people look so laughable. You want to be one of the last people in the country to think the Bush and Cheney are the good guys, don’t blame us when we ridicule you.

  23. Once again, Mopey, people who do charity work for the sake of doing it, don’t constantly pat themselves on the back about it of try to make others feel inferior because they don’t.

    I saw your site, I can read, you know… you go with church groups, and I know you guys already have stock answers about the “spreading the word” aspect of your trips, so I really don’t care.

    You help people out, and that is great.

    But don’t come here with that self sanctimonious act of yours. You’re not the only one helping others and if you have to use it like some kind of crutch to make yourself feel superior in chats like this one, you may need to start looking into some other character building work.

  24. In fact, one of my ‘nieces’ was up for a PAM award (East Africa equivelent to a Grammy) as best Rwandan artist today. Pretty good for a Rwandan genocide survivor (you know, that ugly little thing that went on unchallenged during Bill’s watch). – Mope

    In fact Mope you brought up Rwanda and Darfur, nobody else even mentioned it. Frankly most of us don’t come to this site to have this type of disingenuous arguments. We go to Think Progress for that. Maybe we should meet you over there.

  25. It sounded familiar to me too Zooey. Frankly I have trouble understanding how people who are so adverse to helping the poor with their taxes expect us to believe they give so much money voluntarily to the poor. Of course Britney Spears is a big Bush supporter and she gives a whopping $500 a month to charity. She makes about $700,000 per month and saves nothing.

  26. I was reading his site, and he is one sick dude. On one site, he has to explain why he keeps getting photos taken with young girls: it seems they really need him to be a father figure (he makes it a point to explain he is married).

    On the other site, he chastises “celebrities” who are having it tough, and pledges to take them to Rowanda, and put them to work, and show them what “real life” is all about. He’ll give them a chance to do something “real” for the first times in their lives. What a saint, mopey is.

    Then he talks about how satisfying it is for some kid to “kneel in gratitude” for a pencil!

    The guy is on some kind of fucking God Trip!

    I don’t care about his politics, but, he is out in my book. Spam him.

  27. Mope spends as much time telling people what a great humanitarian he is, as he does actually doing the work.

    I thought it was something he did in chat rooms, but the sites he links to are full of the “moses mope” crap patting himself on the back for going to a 3rd world country for an ego trip.

  28. and also, he keeps bringing up “Mzungus’ (white person, presumed rich)…” in almost every single article. Like some kind of mantra.

    Maybe “Mzungus” really means “white jackass likes playing God and pretending to be rich”…

  29. Shayne, you are surprisingly untraveled.
    They do NOT let you carry a gun on the plane; only Air Marshals can do that. You put it in a locked case in your CHECKED luggage, declare it to the airline, and go through a different screening. And in Africa, I only carry where necessary (not all that often, since most of my efforts are in the central and south). And you certainly have no clue of the environment and attitudes there (all sorts of ill-trained security types walk around with rifles and shotguns carelessly slung over shoulders in Kampala, which is a ‘safe’ area). As for their multivariate reaction to ‘Mzungus’ (white person, presumed rich)… well, let’s just say your ignorance is fairly complete.

    As for Rwanda and Darfur, I was pointing out that the situations there are complex and difficult to deal with, irrespective of the politics of the president involved. Those shouting ‘Save Darfur’ rarely have any clue of what that would take.

    BTW: the normal [edit] hold both Clinton and Bush in pretty high regard and certainly are puzzled by raw animousity to either (save for the handful of communists). The 30% muslim population can best be described as puzzled, but not overly hostile about W. They see both good and bad in him, as they do with most people; it’s one reason I find [edit] a refreshing change from the U.S. I always learn something new from them on how to really live, especially in the face of adversity; I’d recommend it to anyone.

  30. Willy you’re a better man than I am, of course. But I couldn’t read that much of his site, too pedantic.

    One of the problems I have with both Presidents Bush is the “thousand points of light” and “armies of compassion” ideas that problems will get handled by people donating to charities and taxes and government aren’t necessary. After all when you pay your taxes you don’t get all the stroking you get when you give a donation.

  31. Bush makes a good point: if you want to see some helpful things happen to the poor and unfortunate, you had BETTER do them yourselves because Bush is too busy STEALING the money for himself and his cronies.

    Did you see the report that just came out that billions more have been reported missing in Iraq while Bush is jumping up and down for 200 billion more?

    Like crack heads, these guys are. Fucking sickening.

  32. Shayne, I appreciate your overall reasonableness but proclaiming something pedantic is your choice.

    Willyoman, you seem to have a lot of pent-up hate that you might want to address. We disagree on politics, but obviously you can’t keep from trying to make it personal. It is the sign of one who converts to vendetta when logic fails and a level of intolerance that liberals never seem to realize they suffer from.

    ‘God trip?’ I am forever humbled by those kids over there, and realize you’ll never understand what real strength of character they have; your loss.

    Never been on TP, folks.

  33. ” We disagree on politics, but obviously you can’t keep from trying to make it personal. ”

    No buddy. What I made Painfully clear was that I didn’t like you coming in here and throwing out your “charity work” as if it is some kind of proof you were better then the people you were talking to.

    That CLEARLY told me you might have some other agenda for doing the work.

    I stated that I don’t care about your ramblings about politics and I don’t.

  34. “It is the sign of one who converts to vendetta when logic fails ”

    when logic fails? We aren’t debating, mopencakes, so you have to try a different cliche argument for this conversation.

  35. “Join me, Owen, and learn the value of life!”

    So glad you aren’t on a God Trip!

    “There they’ll meet kids who think a single piece of chicken is a feast, who will give a big smile and kneel in gratitude if given a basic pencil and pad,”

    Carry alot of pads and pencils around with you over there?

  36. At this “elightened” guy’s site, he has a link to Michelle Malkins site; one to The Power Line (with an ad box that reads “I’m a Friend of Israel”); and a troll video blog site with stuff like “jihad Watch” and a “Phony Soldiers” article.

    Nice humanitarian, stuff there mopencakes.

  37. Gee, four straight responses; guess you felt the first 3 lacking. A lot for ‘not caring about my politics’.

    I brought up the charity stuff once, but you guys keep trying to convert it to something nefarious simply because it does not allow you to fit me in your standard ‘evil conservative’ box.

    The kneeling in thanks is a cultural thing they do to themselves; as much as it bothered me, it is THEIR culture. You know; that whole ‘cultural sensitivity’ thing. I asked the house mothers to distribute the supplies after that.

    I have no ‘agenda’ for doing this work, even if this puts me outside your ‘comfort box’. I happily work with ‘action liberals’ over there (something I use to differentiate from keyboard liberals and keyboard conservatives); I have great respect for them, far greater that either group of ‘keyboardists’.

    ‘Oh, wo is me!’ celebrities DO bug me; their problems are so ludicrous compared to what I’ve seen. I sure don’t complain much anymore and certainly am impervious to your rearrangement of my login or any other personal insults you care to include. I would say that such always weakens your position on any issue and can look downright silly after awhile.

    You list links I have on my site; they are no more extreme than Daily Kos, Democratic Underground (both sites I visit regularly), Moveon.org, and Huffpo. Nature of our respective beasts; we could throw highly selective outrageous postings from eash others links for months. No benefit to be gained. But it does not make me think one way or another about the humanitarian nature of people in here; they are separate issues.

  38. I don’t know if I have ever read about Arrianna Huffington hiding outside the home of a child in the bushes to try and get smear material to help either side of an issue justify vetoing legislation that helps children… but I will look again.

    nope, nothing in her past like that.

    So, the “nature of our respective beasts” is to lie and smear any and all who dare to speak out against this administration for partisan and economic reasons.

    Much like that article on the other site about the “phony soldier”.

    And as far as, “no gains” I think I enjoy exposing you for what you are. You linked to your site. I just went there and read it.

    “‘Oh, wo is me!’ celebrities DO bug me” but that’s ok, because you get to play one in Africa, right? What is that they call you? ““Mzungus”? How many articles do you mention that in?

    Got alittle insight for you, mopencakes, “The dirty little secret of the non-profit world is that most of the new groups are redundant and unnecessary and perpetuated by ego-driven founders…” from charity navigator.

    I’d say your little junts down to birthplace of humanity may fall into that catagory. I know those little girls down there “realy need a father figure” but maybe you could just pat yourself on the back a little less in the process.

  39. Now, to desperately perpetuate your vision of everything about a conservative as evil and twisted, you take to bashing the non-profit world.

    But you have to have the last word; right or wrong, you’ll call that victory. So make your last posting and have fun.

    For any of the rest of you who feel their intellect up to actual discussion of issues, rather than personal attacks, first let me thank you for not joining Willy’s tirades and you are welcome to have at it on my side of the aisle as well. I am NOT going away and will continue to show more respect that I will be given in here; mayybe some will learn from that alone.

  40. Thanks for the warning, mopey. Is that what you call what you’ve been doing here — respect? Ah, I see.

    Rest assured, if your bountiful “respect” becomes a problem on the Zoo, you will go the way of all trolls.

  41. Once again, you are gracing those of us less enlightened than yourself with the opportunity to “learn from that alone.”. Mopencakes, you are truely a gracious and magnanimous human being. Wow. I hope all of those reading along, learn from your tidbit of wisdom.

    Let us recap the many offers you have made to educate us poor misguided liberals:

    “I can teach you a few things about your ‘enemy’”
    “You all really don’t understand how this all works, do you?”
    ” I do so because I help some really fantastic people ‘be all they can be’. ”
    “Shayne, you are surprisingly untraveled….”
    “I am forever humbled by those kids over there, and realize you’ll never understand…”
    “For any of the rest of you who feel their intellect up to actual discussion of issues,…”

    Oh, please great mopenpants, bring us your wisdom again and again… Please be sure to set the few of us “liberals” capable of understanding your great message, straight and right with the world, as you would clearly do with all those damn “celebrities”.

    But, do me a favor; If you want respect here, it takes more than just patting yourself on the back and saying that everyone is beneath you for all the good charity work you do. In fact, you don’t have a clue what anyone else here does,

    because MOST people don’t go around bragging about it! And using it as a club to “smite” anyone who dares challenge their intentions.

    As far as the ‘not-for-profit” scams out there, just Google it. Lots and lots and lots of people scaping a buck off the unsuspecting, and hiding behind the desperate needs of those the are supposedly helping.

    I wonder if you have a not-for-profit that helps raise money for all these trips you take?

  42. Mopenshaw,‘God trip?’ I am forever humbled by those kids over there,
    Sooo, the ? I have for you Mopenshaw, is where are you now?
    bECAUSE YOU SAID” kids over THERE”.
    so, obviously, you are not THERE?
    (I was in Mogadishu Africa(Somalia).(6 Months, 1993).

  43. Except for the fact that you came here and implied everyone was an idiot, and that you are the only one who really cares enough to do anything to help people? Sure, yeah, that’s not insulting, Mopensham.
    And there you go again hiding behind a charity! No-one said anything about the charity! We are talking about you!
    Hey, I liked the comments I found you made about the Gathering of Eagles guys who went down and stole that picture of the fallen soldier off his father’s memorial. That takes some class, huh?
    You are just a top-notch kind of guy, every which way you look at it.

  44. Mike O is a middle-aged (close enough!) database developer and long-time resident of Texas. A right-wing Constitutional Anarchist, personally involved in aid to Africa (primarily [edit]), dealing with the Neurofibromatosis, Type 2 of my son Alan, and have recently lost 80 pounds by willpower alone. My Chinese wife Catherine is fairly tolerant of all of this insanity.
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  45. Mopenshaw has decided not to post here in the future. He has made this sacrafice for the good of the [edit].

    What a guy! He decided that someone? was going to “attack” the charity he does charity work for.

    Man, these evil liberals attacking the children again? All because we couldn’t hang with his vast worldly knowledge!

    Once again, he shows us he is truely a bigger man by agreeing to stay away from this site for the good of the children.

    Meanwhile Michelle Malking lurks in the bushes and he links to her site everyday. Hers and the Gathering of Eagles. What an American! i am humbled by his greatness.

    Adios, Mopenshaddy.

  46. mopey thinks he’s got things on some of us at the Zoo? Interesting. I doubt that’s true, so why say it? Does he really think we’re intimidated by losers like him? What a maroon.

  47. I’m not part of this but if the charity stuff is true and driven by honor then I am prepared to offer some props otherwise I haven’t paid much attention and don’t really understand the beef but I am willing to have the gentleman rat me out in the interest of the rest of you all. I never screwed up that bad and I have never been to Africa but who knows maybe he and I were at some crazy party where I made a jackass out of myself. I can’t really remember or be sure.

  48. dbadass
    I Truly was in Africa as well as many other places , which I have no Reason to Lie about.
    This other Fella? I have no Idea. WHY…?
    GREED?

  49. willyloman
    November 4th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
    Once again, he shows us he is truly a bigger man by agreeing to stay away from this site for the good of the Corporate foundation in Dallas. He’d Hate an Investigation that would Ruin The Illegal Profits.

  50. It was a few years ago but i did have a momentary chance of being a TA on an undergrad trip to Tanzania but it ended up being so much cloud talk. My buddy did get the students there though and it all worked out wonderfully except the fact that I wasn’t there

  51. “My Chinese wife” pretty much says it all for me. Thanks for investigating his site willy and gotfreedumb. I looked at it and lost interest immediately.

  52. Toasterhead, too bad we chased mopie off so fast. He could probably tell you how to get women and children groveling at your feet. That is just so much darn fun.

  53. I did. :-)
    I’m not sorry. He was trying to pass himself off as just wanting discussion and debate, when he was just try to be provoking (very passive aggressive).

  54. I agree nwmuse, he wasn’t honest. Furthermore it took him 13 comments and he had shot the thread to smithereens. We don’t need no thinkprogress troll situation here.

  55. “Once again, he shows us he is truly a bigger man by agreeing to stay away from this site for the good of the Corporate foundation in Dallas. He’d Hate an Investigation that would Ruin The Illegal Profits.”

    I think gotfreedumb may be on to something here.

    the guy is a self rightous troll. We start picking his bullshit apart and he runs away “for the children”. i wonder if he uses that line in his everyday life to get what he wants? He’s a useless troll. I hope he does do somegood somewhere, as long as he does it somewhere other than here!

  56. And I love the way he implies he knows “secrets” about us and we would be unhappy if he “spilled the beans”. What a jerk.

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