Well, this is a good start.
Hhmmm. President Dennis Kucinich?
wonder who his V.P. will be?
Aawww hell, he doesnt need a V.P.
he might do well doing it alone.
Any updates or commentary will be appreciated.
he is reading the entire charge into the record
complete with all the quotes from Cheney making false claims about Iraq and Iran…
as well as the proof that Cheney knew at the time that these claims were false
Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his psition and trust of the people of the United States and warrents removal from office.
they are not considering it at ths time. they have two days to bring it before the floor of the house
Zooey, he is reading through all his charges and supporting.
What just happened Willy? Nobody shot him down but nothing is happening.
I crashed my computer. I am at Borders and it isn’t fast enough to listen and also post..
I’m glad he’s reading it into the record. People need to HEAR it all put together.
No one moved to table the thing?
According to the rules of the House, they have two days to bring it before the full House after he makes the question of privilege. It could happen at any time between now and Thursday. We have to keep our eyes on Cspan.
Willy, thank you so much for letting me know.
Could they deny his request for privilege, or just make the motion to table?
Well, I had to move and find a plugin for my cord. I think it will work better now.
Now that takes GUTS! To step so far out on a limb while already investing so much of yourself and your political capital in a presidential bid…wow.
Having read that information into the record will have an effect in some way.
Now lets see how many news agencies not only report that he did it, but on what he said.
That will be the test for anyone making comments on this action. Including the liberal and progressive commentators.
Is there something wrong withTPZoo? I hit HOME and only one posting comes up.. It is being goofy.. Is it just my computer?
Willy, I hate to rain on our parade, but not even TP covered it.
But, well, maybe you were just a tad quicker on your feet, than them!
Feedback please. I hit “view site” and only Willy’s latest post comes up. Happening to anyone else?
I had a similar problem with another site just now.
Same here, muse. Jesus…
It must be the WordPress server itself
Your stuck in my thread! yippie! More comments!
Willy’s priorities…
Will you all contact WordPress on this? I have to leave in about 7 minutes.
where are you going?
not going to answer my question?
ok fine….
To school! And to vote!
Patience please…
They are talking about it agin!
They are reading it again in its entirety!!
You’re just running up your number of comments. Sheesh…
They are reading the charges.
GA Volks!
The media simply cannot ignore this.
WordPress forums are full of the talk of the disappearing posts right now. We’re not the only ones.
I’m off to work. Have a great day, all!
We need to come up with some kind of TPZoo TRUE PATRIOT award for valor and courage for this guy. Would make a great post.
Later all, I’ll be back around 3 or so. Hopefully the WP thing will be resolved by then.
WordPress has always been buggy.
Zooey sez:
The media simply cannot ignore this.
Watch them.
I expect a mention on Countdown…nothing more.
I missed my damn bus. Or rather, the damn bus came EARLY. Grrrr…
You’re probably right, Trip.
I’ll check the media response when I get home this afternoon, do a post called “Crickets Chirping.”
Dennis just requested a recorded vote.
They are voting on the motion to table.
Zooey sez:
I missed my damn bus. Or rather, the damn bus came EARLY.
Blow it off. It’s not important.
History is happening right now in Congress.
Steney Hoyer (sp?) made the motion to table. I can’t believe this..
How do they vote?? There is nobody in the room?
This is quite interesting.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 5 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich is planning to re-schedule a nationwide conference call to discuss Articles of Impeachment against Vice President Richard B. Cheney after tonight’s planned event encountered technical problems stemming largely from the overwhelming volume of calls from interested citizens.
The Kucinich campaign apologized for the snafu, explaining that staff had significantly underestimated the number of call-ins, and public
interest in the issue exceeded technological capacity. The call will be re-scheduled within the next few days.
Kucinich, author and prime sponsor of the impeachment measure against Cheney, will be introducing a privileged resolution to the House tomorrow (Tuesday) to force a vote on the matter of impeachment.
Also, using Google News, I found 42 articles from the past 5 hours about this. Including FOX!
What you aren’t seeing is the TV showing it. But, the 24 hour news media is just that. They are 24 hours BEHIND. SO, don’t expect to see anything about this on TV until tomorrow.
OTOP:
Check this out:
And then I heard Mr [Byron] King say, “According to the group’s research, global oil reserves lie near the 1.2 gigabarrel range – a mere 42-year supply at current consumption levels.” Oil supply will drop 7% this year alone. Peak Production is upon us http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/IK03Dj05.html.
BOTOP; I see they are having now a fifteen minute vote to table this.
I missed my damn bus. Or rather, the damn bus came EARLY. Grrrr… -Z
Many ex-Bushies wish they could say that =P
nwmuse sez:
Steney Hoyer (sp?) made the motion to table. I can’t believe this..
Steny had threatened as much. When asked to explain, he declared bluntly that “impeachment is not on the agenda”.
In other words, he’s sided with the enemy.
81 to 14 to table it
34 to 15 to table (democrats)
this is a sick fucking world….
So that’s the end of it, then?
51 to 22 to table it (democrats)
89 Republicans vote to table…right down party lines
435 members
looks real bad
171 to 39 to table 230 left to vote
The complacent complicit Democrats must be voted out right along with the Republicans.
I have been saying for years and this just proves me right. The DEMOCRATS ARE IN ON IT.
Keep your powder dry folks.
what are the yays? I can’t see the numbers on the tiny screen.
21 republicans have voted to keep his resolution on the floor.
26 now
What a fucking shame that the establishment will never permit this courageous man to lead our nation.
He is saying this now. That this is not a Democratic or Republican issue, it is a Constitutional issue. Defending the Constitution.
on the net…. he is headed back to the floor
63 dems and 42 republicans voted to support the resolution so far.
We need to let the Democrats know that they will be serving their last terms and to not get real comfortable if it is their first.
This is disgusting and goes against what their constituents want.
They are bought and paid for, just like the Republicans.
Can he keep bringing it up?
143 dems voted to table it with 143 republicans!
If they pass the Telecom Bill that failed the last three times in the Republican Congress, I swear I will become a fucking troll!
no, muse. this is it.
It is still on the record and the vote wasn’t a blowout. I don’t want him to give up.
Is there a final tally yet?
148 dems now verses 134 Republicans have voted to table the resolution….
can they change their vote?
national town hall meeting! Next week.
132….
131
130…..
The fucking Republicans are changing their votes!
129…
Sort of like those voting machines in Florida.. counting backwards.
124…..
they are changing their votes… something is going on.
Maybe there will be a miracle.. Maybe they were all waiting to see what others were going to do first. Who knows..
115….it fucking brilliant! They are going to get the dems to vote to table, and then switch their votes at the last minute, to bring it to the floor to impeach!
Then, the Republicans own the impeachment! It’s fucking brilliant.
110…
107…..
I don’t get it.. What’s the tally? This is driving me nuts!! I can’t see the screen!!
OMG! they have just enough votes to do it! If they keep switching they have enough votes to bring it to the floor!
253 to 158 to table and the repubs are still switching!
250 to 161 ….
republican yea votes are down to 97!
I don’t understand the logic or motivation.. Is it because Americans want CHeney gone and they (Repubs) will look good in an election year? They take credit?
The dems have to sense this and start switching their votes
235 to 176
final or so far..?
damnit I wish I would have gone home so I could see it on the TV..
if we had 27 dems switch their vote, impeachment would go to the floor!
WHAT’s HAPPENING?
229 to 182
227 to 184
they are forcing a roll call vote to give the repubs more time to switch their votes!
220 to 191!
218 to 193!
215 to 196….
213 to 198….
Willy, I can’t believe this!!
211 to 200!!!!!!!
209 to 203!!!!
Oh dear God…
207 to 204….dems are starting to switch
206 – 205…
Cheney has to be aware of this and quaking in his boots.
206 to 205 they are yelling on the floor!
205 – 206!!!
205 to 206!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
204 t0 207 and changing by the minute..Wow.
202 to 209!!!!!!!!!
198 to 213
This is absolutely awe-inspiring.
192 to 219…. they are going to impeach these bastards! And the Republicans are going to own it!
191 – 220.
My God…it looks like this might actually happen…
this is just to have the resolution see the floor of the house
OK, this is just so it will go to a floor debate and vote within two days, right?
Elevator going down, womens wear, mezanine and parking garage…..186 to 225…..
187 to 224…..
204 to 207!!!!!!!
they are getting the Dems to change their votes from Nay to Yea! watch the numbers! pelosi is working behind the scenes to get the dems to table this resolution! What the Fuck!
OMG keep going!
177 to 234….
28 repub voted to table vrs 163 to hear the resolution!
They are all going to switch their vote!
170 to 242…next
I am in total shock.. Wish I could text Zooey.
170 to 242…. it is going to go forward (it looks like) and the dems are starting to switch….
How much longer can this go on.. It is a 15 minute vote that has lasted almost an hour.
I am talking to my husband at work. This is amazing. Own it!
wow… that was fucking brilliant……
I just called my husband at work too! Great day for all Americans! Better day for the Constitution!!
they baited the dems in, and the switched en masse… they will be the party that stands for rule of law!
They keep saying it is the first of 4 votes. On this particular resolution or others as well?
Willy, is that bad for the dems?
Our Dem leaders should have stood together for what is right a long time ago.
1 hour into a 15 minute vote and it’s staying with the 170 to 242 for the last few minute’s…They had better shut this down and run with it or I’ll be one enraged witch…Blessings
Actually, scratch that. If it makes them do what is best for this country to prevent a war with IRan and any more destruction to the Constitution by Cheney, then I don’t care HOW it happens.
when I watching this earlier Ever single Repub had voted Yea (to table it)! Every single one….
they baited the dems into voting against impeachment!
then they suddenly switched!
Maybe Pelosi can save face and just throw her energy into this and take the lead.
The Republicans are many things. A well oiled machine is one.
I don,t get it. I thought the Ney means no.?
We don’t have TV. Please keep on with the commentary! And thank you for keeping us informed!
Numbers please…
this one was brilliant. The only way to save the Republican Party is to sacrafice this administration! if the Repubs become the party that salvaged the country! Is that bad for Dems? Sure. But remember who brought this forward. And 21 co-sponcers are dems!
165 to 247
Oh my God..
dems are switching…..
i almost started crying when it hit 206 to 207…..
163 to 250…
Final vote:
162 – 251
Hoyer want it put it to the judiciary committee to kill it… he is a dem
What are they voting on now for..?
I am l ive streaming, but don’t know what they are talking about. What is this parlimentary crap going on?
Arrg!
now they are trying to stuff it into committee where the dems can kill it….
they are going to vote for that!
Hoyer (dem) called for the motion to table in the first Place!!
Willy, I thought they had to debate on the floor and a vote in 2 days! How can they send it somewhere else in order to kill it?
The dems are going to kill it? WTF????? Am I in the twilight zone?
Motion advanced by Steny Hoyer to refer resolution to the Judiciary Committee.
Aaargh.
Can Kucinich push to get the voting on the House Floor?
Will be back in a few mins. Going to go vote. My emotions are all over the place. I don’t know whether to be happy or sad. WTF. Dems are sucking right now.
Someone tell Hoyer to put a sock in it!!
it will get killed in committee by Hoyer or a hold will be put on it.
Why are all the dems now voting to send it to committee?
Houer or what ever his name is need’s to go to the wood shed along with F****** Palosi….It’s going into 2 debates of 15 minutes and then more vote’s..Hoyer wanted to just dump it on the comittee and have it go away…The Boner got his crap in there so now we go a wrangeling….Lot’s of noise on the floor..If nothing else we will get to put faces to votes and should proceed to voting out the bad on both sides.
Denny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi are traitors and should have articles of impeachment drawn up on them.
Conyers chairs the Judiciary committee:
rest of the Dems:
Democrat
Hon. Berman
(D) California, 28th
Hon. Boucher
(D) Virginia, 9th
Hon. Nadler
(D) New York, 8th
Hon. Scott
(D) Virginia, 3rd
Hon. Watt
(D) North Carolina, 12th
Hon. Lofgren
(D) California, 16th
Hon. Jackson Lee
(D) Texas, 18th
Hon. Waters
(D) California, 35th
Hon. Delahunt
(D) Massachusetts, 10th
Hon. Wexler
(D) Florida, 19th
Hon. Sánchez
(D) California, 39th
Hon. Cohen
(D) Tennessee, 9th
Hon. Johnson
(D) Georgia, 4th
Hon. Sutton
(D) Ohio, 13th
Hon. Gutierrez
(D) Illinois, 4th
Hon. Sherman
(D) California, 27
Hon. Baldwin
(D) Wisconsin, 2nd
Hon. Weiner
(D) New York, 9th
Hon. Schiff
(D) California, 29th
Hon. Davis
(D) Alabama , 7th
Hon. Wasserman Schultz
(D) Florida, 20th
Hon. Ellison
(D) Minnesota, 5th
OK, now I get it. THey are saying that the reason the Repubs switched their votes was to be able to debate and embarrass the Dems. That is why Hoyer jumped up and is trying to send it to committee.
Sorry for the spam, but the committee isn’t a sure fire killed motion with Conyers chairing the committee
What are the numbers?
Is this the vote to send it to Judiciary?
204 to 188 to hold the vote on whether or not they send it to the judiciary committee.
can Repubs again flip their votes ti get the debate on the Floor?
From the interview with Kucinich, it seemed that he didn’t expect it to go forward. he was surprized when the motion to table failed.
numbers?
So, as far as I can tell, this vote is to decide if they hold the vote to send it to Judiciary? I think….
I am listening to the audio. I just can’t see the screen.
213 to 194 to hold the vote.
So now they vote on motion to refer..
What a freaking roller coaster ride.
look at all the ones who are there. This is getting big! The republicans came out of no where with their switching the votes.
218 to 194….. the previous question is ordered….
recorded vote is requested…..
recorded vote is ordered……
whether or not to send it to Judiciary Committee….
I really want to know the numbers now. Thanks Willy for sticking with this.
Again, I think the Repubs want to debate because they want to show that Kucinich is a flake and they want to embarrass the DEMS.
143 to 150 to send to committee…..
I hope this blows up in their face. I want to see strong debate and I want to see Cheney impeached.
A motion to refer..Clearly the rep’s want it to fail so they can bash the Dem’s and the dumb ass dem’s want it to go to the house judicery comittee so they can make it go away…Dump the dem’s, most of them along with the rep’s…
This parlimentary crap is confusing. Let’s get with the issue here. It is good I didn’t go into pol.sci. for my major. lol Makes for edge of your seat c-span, though!
Wow, I wonder if they are thinking if they send it to Judiciary, it will interfere with the other ongoing investgations and the Contempt charges underway..
I don’t understand how so many dems that voted to keep it from being tabled, will now vote to send it to committee?
what do they mean by referring resolution?
Numbers somebody. Please?
I can’t see the numbers. =(
going to committee…..
217 to 193….
Is that good or bad?
Bad.
Final vote: 218-194
The motion to reconsider is laid upon the table.
Bah
Is it a done deal? It is going to Committee?
What is the point of overturning the initial tableing, then?
Now they have jumped to the water bill….BS…
Well, it could easily have been dead already! Now they are moving on to something else, but there is still argument going on.
It seems as if that’s it…although the House is persistently not coming to order…
If they had tabled it, it would have been over….
now they are going to send it to the House judiciary Committee, but that will get some attention, and it may not die there.
The House is still out of order…
can’t even get the house in order, what a fine example of demonacracy,
what a fine example. sad.
parlimentary inquiry
veto over ride…..
there you have it; a play by play called by your favorite tin-foil-hat wearing critters, Trip and Willy…thanks for tuning in folks…..
The point is clear, Palosi is a traitor and she will not allow any impeachment..By manipulation with her co-whorts (on purpose) she will not allow impeachment and it will die in comittee….No longer are the rep’s our problem….Every one in the world know’s by not impeaching and holding the evil doer’s accountable like it has been done in the past the democrat’s are doomed to fail this coming election..This appear’s to be what this miserable person want’s and unless we get rid of her and her supporter’s it’s a done deal…Hard to be a peace activest during these bad time’s….Blessings
House Judiciary Committee’s main page (contact infor is there!)
Jinx!
Glad to do it muse. And glad the Zoo was here for me to chat with you guys during it.
fingers were crossed!
I found an article and will post.
I will join in but not going to hold my breath….We are fighting evil on all side’s and our own leader’s are just as guilty…Blessing
I think this may stand a chance to make it out of committee! The Republicans want it to reach the floor. And they have imbarassed the Dems.
you are right about the witch1
at 3:18 I wrote “143 dems voted to table it with 143 republicans!”
every single republican voted to table at that point.
then “148 dems now verses 134 Republicans have voted to table the resolution….
can they change their vote?”
and it started…..
what a thing to see.
later all. got stuff to do. lets keep the pressure up if we can and put up some stories about this.
Remember! It’s not dead YET!
keep your heads up.
(and your powder dry)
Willy, the only reason the rep’s want it out in the open is to beat up on the dem’s…..Palosi and our own evil doer’s want it to just go away so they can help the rep’s once again..Palosi is not a democrat she is a bush bot…Don’t remember where I read it but past history of similar event’s lost elections for the dem’s..The public is fed up and will wander around untill election time, vote goofie because of poor runner’s and the rep’s will win again…I’m so mad I could kick some butt’s if they got close today. Palosi has, along with her helper’s has put us all in a terrible position…She does not give a shit about any of us or our constitution..I sure was wrong about her…Off to run the Bear and get outta here for awhile…..Blessings all
Wow. A little excitement around here. Sorry I missed it.
It was pretty exciting. I just pray they don’t try and shuttle this thing into the garbage while behind closed doors..
The MSM is already spinning it to the ground! there is NOTHING on it on MSN and MSNBC! Nothing!
CNN has a 4 paragraph story and the headlines read that it was struck down!
Later they note that it was sent to committee “effectively killing it”
Well, I just sent off my letter to the Judiciary.
You folks did an amazing job. I watched the beginning and then went to cook dinner and do some cleaning and I missed all the excitement. Thanks for keeping me updated. I find the MSM is a day behing on big news so I wouldn’t be surprised if they talk about this tomorrow. In the old days with newspapers they print up an emergency edition and send out boys to spread the news. Now they have to focus group every issue before they talk about it to make sure they make everybody happy, and by everybody I mean the sponsors. Hopefully there’ll be more tomorrow.
I am really angry at the Democratic party right now – especially Steny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi. THey should be ashamed. They need to go back and check WHICH Constitution it is that they are protecting and defending.. They seem confused..
Well, this is a good start.
Hhmmm. President Dennis Kucinich?
wonder who his V.P. will be?
Aawww hell, he doesnt need a V.P.
he might do well doing it alone.
Any updates or commentary will be appreciated.
he is reading the entire charge into the record
complete with all the quotes from Cheney making false claims about Iraq and Iran…
as well as the proof that Cheney knew at the time that these claims were false
Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his psition and trust of the people of the United States and warrents removal from office.
they are not considering it at ths time. they have two days to bring it before the floor of the house
Zooey, he is reading through all his charges and supporting.
What just happened Willy? Nobody shot him down but nothing is happening.
I crashed my computer. I am at Borders and it isn’t fast enough to listen and also post..
I’m glad he’s reading it into the record. People need to HEAR it all put together.
No one moved to table the thing?
According to the rules of the House, they have two days to bring it before the full House after he makes the question of privilege. It could happen at any time between now and Thursday. We have to keep our eyes on Cspan.
Willy, thank you so much for letting me know.
Could they deny his request for privilege, or just make the motion to table?
Well, I had to move and find a plugin for my cord. I think it will work better now.
Now that takes GUTS! To step so far out on a limb while already investing so much of yourself and your political capital in a presidential bid…wow.
Having read that information into the record will have an effect in some way.
Now lets see how many news agencies not only report that he did it, but on what he said.
That will be the test for anyone making comments on this action. Including the liberal and progressive commentators.
Is there something wrong withTPZoo? I hit HOME and only one posting comes up.. It is being goofy.. Is it just my computer?
Willy, I hate to rain on our parade, but not even TP covered it.
But, well, maybe you were just a tad quicker on your feet, than them!
Feedback please. I hit “view site” and only Willy’s latest post comes up. Happening to anyone else?
I had a similar problem with another site just now.
Same here, muse. Jesus…
It must be the WordPress server itself
Your stuck in my thread! yippie! More comments!
Willy’s priorities…
Will you all contact WordPress on this? I have to leave in about 7 minutes.
where are you going?
not going to answer my question?
ok fine….
To school! And to vote!
Patience please…
They are talking about it agin!
They are reading it again in its entirety!!
You’re just running up your number of comments. Sheesh…
They are reading the charges.
GA Volks!
The media simply cannot ignore this.
WordPress forums are full of the talk of the disappearing posts right now. We’re not the only ones.
I’m off to work. Have a great day, all!
We need to come up with some kind of TPZoo TRUE PATRIOT award for valor and courage for this guy. Would make a great post.
Later all, I’ll be back around 3 or so. Hopefully the WP thing will be resolved by then.
WordPress has always been buggy.
Zooey sez:
Watch them.
I expect a mention on Countdown…nothing more.
I missed my damn bus. Or rather, the damn bus came EARLY. Grrrr…
You’re probably right, Trip.
I’ll check the media response when I get home this afternoon, do a post called “Crickets Chirping.”
Dennis just requested a recorded vote.
They are voting on the motion to table.
Zooey sez:
Blow it off. It’s not important.
History is happening right now in Congress.
Steney Hoyer (sp?) made the motion to table. I can’t believe this..
How do they vote?? There is nobody in the room?
This is quite interesting.
Also, using Google News, I found 42 articles from the past 5 hours about this. Including FOX!
What you aren’t seeing is the TV showing it. But, the 24 hour news media is just that. They are 24 hours BEHIND. SO, don’t expect to see anything about this on TV until tomorrow.
OTOP:
Check this out:
And then I heard Mr [Byron] King say, “According to the group’s research, global oil reserves lie near the 1.2 gigabarrel range – a mere 42-year supply at current consumption levels.” Oil supply will drop 7% this year alone. Peak Production is upon us http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/IK03Dj05.html.
BOTOP; I see they are having now a fifteen minute vote to table this.
I missed my damn bus. Or rather, the damn bus came EARLY. Grrrr… -Z
Many ex-Bushies wish they could say that =P
nwmuse sez:
Steny had threatened as much. When asked to explain, he declared bluntly that “impeachment is not on the agenda”.
In other words, he’s sided with the enemy.
81 to 14 to table it
34 to 15 to table (democrats)
this is a sick fucking world….
So that’s the end of it, then?
51 to 22 to table it (democrats)
89 Republicans vote to table…right down party lines
435 members
looks real bad
171 to 39 to table 230 left to vote
The complacent complicit Democrats must be voted out right along with the Republicans.
I have been saying for years and this just proves me right. The DEMOCRATS ARE IN ON IT.
Keep your powder dry folks.
what are the yays? I can’t see the numbers on the tiny screen.
80 to 39 to table (democrats)
Did you read this?
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_not_stopping_with_Cheney_plans_1106.html
226 (yea) to 55 (nay) to table his effort.
live interview with dennis
21 republicans have voted to keep his resolution on the floor.
26 now
What a fucking shame that the establishment will never permit this courageous man to lead our nation.
He is saying this now. That this is not a Democratic or Republican issue, it is a Constitutional issue. Defending the Constitution.
on the net…. he is headed back to the floor
63 dems and 42 republicans voted to support the resolution so far.
We need to let the Democrats know that they will be serving their last terms and to not get real comfortable if it is their first.
This is disgusting and goes against what their constituents want.
They are bought and paid for, just like the Republicans.
Can he keep bringing it up?
143 dems voted to table it with 143 republicans!
If they pass the Telecom Bill that failed the last three times in the Republican Congress, I swear I will become a fucking troll!
no, muse. this is it.
It is still on the record and the vote wasn’t a blowout. I don’t want him to give up.
Is there a final tally yet?
148 dems now verses 134 Republicans have voted to table the resolution….
can they change their vote?
national town hall meeting! Next week.
132….
131
130…..
The fucking Republicans are changing their votes!
129…
Sort of like those voting machines in Florida.. counting backwards.
124…..
they are changing their votes… something is going on.
Maybe there will be a miracle.. Maybe they were all waiting to see what others were going to do first. Who knows..
115….it fucking brilliant! They are going to get the dems to vote to table, and then switch their votes at the last minute, to bring it to the floor to impeach!
Then, the Republicans own the impeachment! It’s fucking brilliant.
110…
107…..
I don’t get it.. What’s the tally? This is driving me nuts!! I can’t see the screen!!
OMG! they have just enough votes to do it! If they keep switching they have enough votes to bring it to the floor!
253 to 158 to table and the repubs are still switching!
250 to 161 ….
republican yea votes are down to 97!
I don’t understand the logic or motivation.. Is it because Americans want CHeney gone and they (Repubs) will look good in an election year? They take credit?
The dems have to sense this and start switching their votes
235 to 176
final or so far..?
damnit I wish I would have gone home so I could see it on the TV..
if we had 27 dems switch their vote, impeachment would go to the floor!
WHAT’s HAPPENING?
229 to 182
227 to 184
they are forcing a roll call vote to give the repubs more time to switch their votes!
220 to 191!
218 to 193!
215 to 196….
213 to 198….
Willy, I can’t believe this!!
211 to 200!!!!!!!
209 to 203!!!!
Oh dear God…
207 to 204….dems are starting to switch
206 – 205…
Cheney has to be aware of this and quaking in his boots.
206 to 205 they are yelling on the floor!
205 – 206!!!
205 to 206!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
204 t0 207 and changing by the minute..Wow.
202 to 209!!!!!!!!!
198 to 213
This is absolutely awe-inspiring.
192 to 219…. they are going to impeach these bastards! And the Republicans are going to own it!
191 – 220.
My God…it looks like this might actually happen…
this is just to have the resolution see the floor of the house
OK, this is just so it will go to a floor debate and vote within two days, right?
Elevator going down, womens wear, mezanine and parking garage…..186 to 225…..
187 to 224…..
204 to 207!!!!!!!
they are getting the Dems to change their votes from Nay to Yea! watch the numbers! pelosi is working behind the scenes to get the dems to table this resolution! What the Fuck!
OMG keep going!
177 to 234….
28 repub voted to table vrs 163 to hear the resolution!
They are all going to switch their vote!
170 to 242…next
I am in total shock.. Wish I could text Zooey.
170 to 242…. it is going to go forward (it looks like) and the dems are starting to switch….
How much longer can this go on.. It is a 15 minute vote that has lasted almost an hour.
I am talking to my husband at work. This is amazing. Own it!
wow… that was fucking brilliant……
I just called my husband at work too! Great day for all Americans! Better day for the Constitution!!
they baited the dems in, and the switched en masse… they will be the party that stands for rule of law!
They keep saying it is the first of 4 votes. On this particular resolution or others as well?
Willy, is that bad for the dems?
Our Dem leaders should have stood together for what is right a long time ago.
1 hour into a 15 minute vote and it’s staying with the 170 to 242 for the last few minute’s…They had better shut this down and run with it or I’ll be one enraged witch…Blessings
Actually, scratch that. If it makes them do what is best for this country to prevent a war with IRan and any more destruction to the Constitution by Cheney, then I don’t care HOW it happens.
when I watching this earlier Ever single Repub had voted Yea (to table it)! Every single one….
they baited the dems into voting against impeachment!
then they suddenly switched!
Maybe Pelosi can save face and just throw her energy into this and take the lead.
The Republicans are many things. A well oiled machine is one.
I don,t get it. I thought the Ney means no.?
We don’t have TV. Please keep on with the commentary! And thank you for keeping us informed!
Numbers please…
this one was brilliant. The only way to save the Republican Party is to sacrafice this administration! if the Repubs become the party that salvaged the country! Is that bad for Dems? Sure. But remember who brought this forward. And 21 co-sponcers are dems!
165 to 247
Oh my God..
dems are switching…..
i almost started crying when it hit 206 to 207…..
163 to 250…
Final vote:
162 – 251
Hoyer want it put it to the judiciary committee to kill it… he is a dem
What are they voting on now for..?
I am l ive streaming, but don’t know what they are talking about. What is this parlimentary crap going on?
Arrg!
now they are trying to stuff it into committee where the dems can kill it….
they are going to vote for that!
Hoyer (dem) called for the motion to table in the first Place!!
Willy, I thought they had to debate on the floor and a vote in 2 days! How can they send it somewhere else in order to kill it?
The dems are going to kill it? WTF????? Am I in the twilight zone?
Motion advanced by Steny Hoyer to refer resolution to the Judiciary Committee.
Aaargh.
Can Kucinich push to get the voting on the House Floor?
Will be back in a few mins. Going to go vote. My emotions are all over the place. I don’t know whether to be happy or sad. WTF. Dems are sucking right now.
Someone tell Hoyer to put a sock in it!!
it will get killed in committee by Hoyer or a hold will be put on it.
Why are all the dems now voting to send it to committee?
Houer or what ever his name is need’s to go to the wood shed along with F****** Palosi….It’s going into 2 debates of 15 minutes and then more vote’s..Hoyer wanted to just dump it on the comittee and have it go away…The Boner got his crap in there so now we go a wrangeling….Lot’s of noise on the floor..If nothing else we will get to put faces to votes and should proceed to voting out the bad on both sides.
Denny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi are traitors and should have articles of impeachment drawn up on them.
Conyers chairs the Judiciary committee:
rest of the Dems:
Democrat
Hon. Berman
(D) California, 28th
Hon. Boucher
(D) Virginia, 9th
Hon. Nadler
(D) New York, 8th
Hon. Scott
(D) Virginia, 3rd
Hon. Watt
(D) North Carolina, 12th
Hon. Lofgren
(D) California, 16th
Hon. Jackson Lee
(D) Texas, 18th
Hon. Waters
(D) California, 35th
Hon. Delahunt
(D) Massachusetts, 10th
Hon. Wexler
(D) Florida, 19th
Hon. Sánchez
(D) California, 39th
Hon. Cohen
(D) Tennessee, 9th
Hon. Johnson
(D) Georgia, 4th
Hon. Sutton
(D) Ohio, 13th
Hon. Gutierrez
(D) Illinois, 4th
Hon. Sherman
(D) California, 27
Hon. Baldwin
(D) Wisconsin, 2nd
Hon. Weiner
(D) New York, 9th
Hon. Schiff
(D) California, 29th
Hon. Davis
(D) Alabama , 7th
Hon. Wasserman Schultz
(D) Florida, 20th
Hon. Ellison
(D) Minnesota, 5th
OK, now I get it. THey are saying that the reason the Repubs switched their votes was to be able to debate and embarrass the Dems. That is why Hoyer jumped up and is trying to send it to committee.
Sorry for the spam, but the committee isn’t a sure fire killed motion with Conyers chairing the committee
What are the numbers?
Is this the vote to send it to Judiciary?
204 to 188 to hold the vote on whether or not they send it to the judiciary committee.
can Repubs again flip their votes ti get the debate on the Floor?
From the interview with Kucinich, it seemed that he didn’t expect it to go forward. he was surprized when the motion to table failed.
numbers?
So, as far as I can tell, this vote is to decide if they hold the vote to send it to Judiciary? I think….
I am listening to the audio. I just can’t see the screen.
213 to 194 to hold the vote.
So now they vote on motion to refer..
What a freaking roller coaster ride.
look at all the ones who are there. This is getting big! The republicans came out of no where with their switching the votes.
218 to 194….. the previous question is ordered….
recorded vote is requested…..
recorded vote is ordered……
whether or not to send it to Judiciary Committee….
I really want to know the numbers now. Thanks Willy for sticking with this.
Again, I think the Repubs want to debate because they want to show that Kucinich is a flake and they want to embarrass the DEMS.
143 to 150 to send to committee…..
I hope this blows up in their face. I want to see strong debate and I want to see Cheney impeached.
A motion to refer..Clearly the rep’s want it to fail so they can bash the Dem’s and the dumb ass dem’s want it to go to the house judicery comittee so they can make it go away…Dump the dem’s, most of them along with the rep’s…
This parlimentary crap is confusing. Let’s get with the issue here. It is good I didn’t go into pol.sci. for my major. lol Makes for edge of your seat c-span, though!
Wow, I wonder if they are thinking if they send it to Judiciary, it will interfere with the other ongoing investgations and the Contempt charges underway..
I don’t understand how so many dems that voted to keep it from being tabled, will now vote to send it to committee?
what do they mean by referring resolution?
Numbers somebody. Please?
I can’t see the numbers. =(
going to committee…..
217 to 193….
Is that good or bad?
Bad.
Final vote: 218-194
The motion to reconsider is laid upon the table.
Bah
Is it a done deal? It is going to Committee?
What is the point of overturning the initial tableing, then?
Now they have jumped to the water bill….BS…
Well, it could easily have been dead already! Now they are moving on to something else, but there is still argument going on.
It seems as if that’s it…although the House is persistently not coming to order…
If they had tabled it, it would have been over….
now they are going to send it to the House judiciary Committee, but that will get some attention, and it may not die there.
The House is still out of order…
can’t even get the house in order, what a fine example of demonacracy,
what a fine example. sad.
parlimentary inquiry
veto over ride…..
there you have it; a play by play called by your favorite tin-foil-hat wearing critters, Trip and Willy…thanks for tuning in folks…..
The point is clear, Palosi is a traitor and she will not allow any impeachment..By manipulation with her co-whorts (on purpose) she will not allow impeachment and it will die in comittee….No longer are the rep’s our problem….Every one in the world know’s by not impeaching and holding the evil doer’s accountable like it has been done in the past the democrat’s are doomed to fail this coming election..This appear’s to be what this miserable person want’s and unless we get rid of her and her supporter’s it’s a done deal…Hard to be a peace activest during these bad time’s….Blessings
Well, now we start spreading the word to write or call Judiciary.
Here is a start:
http://judiciary.house.gov/Contact.aspx
Thanks so much Trip and Willy. I really mean it.
this is the next step…..
http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx
House Judiciary Committee’s main page (contact infor is there!)
Jinx!
Glad to do it muse. And glad the Zoo was here for me to chat with you guys during it.
fingers were crossed!
I found an article and will post.
I will join in but not going to hold my breath….We are fighting evil on all side’s and our own leader’s are just as guilty…Blessing
I think this may stand a chance to make it out of committee! The Republicans want it to reach the floor. And they have imbarassed the Dems.
you are right about the witch1
at 3:18 I wrote “143 dems voted to table it with 143 republicans!”
every single republican voted to table at that point.
then “148 dems now verses 134 Republicans have voted to table the resolution….
can they change their vote?”
and it started…..
what a thing to see.
later all. got stuff to do. lets keep the pressure up if we can and put up some stories about this.
Remember! It’s not dead YET!
keep your heads up.
(and your powder dry)
Willy, the only reason the rep’s want it out in the open is to beat up on the dem’s…..Palosi and our own evil doer’s want it to just go away so they can help the rep’s once again..Palosi is not a democrat she is a bush bot…Don’t remember where I read it but past history of similar event’s lost elections for the dem’s..The public is fed up and will wander around untill election time, vote goofie because of poor runner’s and the rep’s will win again…I’m so mad I could kick some butt’s if they got close today. Palosi has, along with her helper’s has put us all in a terrible position…She does not give a shit about any of us or our constitution..I sure was wrong about her…Off to run the Bear and get outta here for awhile…..Blessings all
Wow. A little excitement around here. Sorry I missed it.
It was pretty exciting. I just pray they don’t try and shuttle this thing into the garbage while behind closed doors..
The MSM is already spinning it to the ground! there is NOTHING on it on MSN and MSNBC! Nothing!
CNN has a 4 paragraph story and the headlines read that it was struck down!
Later they note that it was sent to committee “effectively killing it”
Well, I just sent off my letter to the Judiciary.
You folks did an amazing job. I watched the beginning and then went to cook dinner and do some cleaning and I missed all the excitement. Thanks for keeping me updated. I find the MSM is a day behing on big news so I wouldn’t be surprised if they talk about this tomorrow. In the old days with newspapers they print up an emergency edition and send out boys to spread the news. Now they have to focus group every issue before they talk about it to make sure they make everybody happy, and by everybody I mean the sponsors. Hopefully there’ll be more tomorrow.
I am really angry at the Democratic party right now – especially Steny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi. THey should be ashamed. They need to go back and check WHICH Constitution it is that they are protecting and defending.. They seem confused..