May 13, 2008...10:28 am

Big lead in Oregon for Obama?

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People have asked how the primary is shaping up in Oregon, but polling has been slim. Local pollster, Tim Hibbits, who is probably more reliable for Oregon polling than anyone else (esp. national organizations) is giving Obama a 17 point lead over Clinton.

“Every poll done in the last several months has shown Barack Obama ahead in Oregon, but this is the biggest lead so far,” Hibbitts said.

According to the new poll, Obama is winning with male and female voters. He’s also ahead in rural areas and is cutting into another part of the populace.”One of the messages Clinton has been driving is that Obama is having a hard time with white voters, but here in Oregon, he’s clearly doing very well,” Hibbitts said.

I would not be surprised, in fact, if the margin doesn’t turn out to be a lot bigger. The polling methods continue to rely on telephone calls, which in turn rely on directories, which do not include cell phones. Since a significant number of young people (and at least one old guy I know very well) do not have landlines, they’re not being reached during polling. The huge numbers of new Democratic voters who registered in Oregon before the April 29 deadline skewed very heavily to this same demographic and one thing that is clear is that the vast majority of them are planning to vote (or have voted) for Barack Obama.

I also find it very interesting that Hibbitts is seeing Obama leading in rural areas, which in Oregon means either Republican or, in this case, conservative Democratic voters and Bill Clinton has been visiting small towns all over Oregon, outside the traditionally liberal Willamette Valley. The strategy doesn’t appear to be working. That linked article references a Portland Tribune poll that shows Obama leading Clinton 55% to 35%.

57 Comments

  • Well now we have to wait for Hillary to tell us that Oregon isn’t one of the “important” states.

  • Clinton will have a tough time making that claim, since she’s been campaigning here a lot and has tried to paint herself as a real Oregonian-type. After the primary, of course, she can dismiss the state because it won’t matter.

  • No she won’t, she’ll say anything. Every state she doesn’t win is unimportant. Yeesh.

  • Clinton – always changing herself for the moment and mood :) :( and for the voting public. Who is she really? Just where can we find the truth? (sarc)

    At least the voters in Oregon have enough intelligence to vote for their well being instead of against it like the voters in West Virginia and Pennsyl-tucky.

  • Who is getting the other 10%- Ron Paul? ;)

  • In front of the West Virginia audience she sounded like John Wayne. Her acting skills are bad enough to make me puke.

  • Walt, we got our “undecided” voters, heading into the primary next Tuesday. There’s a very contentious battle between two liberals for the chance to fight Gordon Smith for his Senate seat. What’s creepy is the amount of viciousness between their supporters, at least in the blogs.

  • Ya spose she’d look presidential in Pendleton?

  • Shayne, would she be channeling granny Clampett?

  • Gummy,
    I was only referring to the fact that McAbel’s brother had a serious challenger in Ron Paul in Pennsylvania.

  • Clinton seeks largely symbolic win in W.VA.

    Why can’t she just accept it? I don’t get it.

  • RUC -
    granny clampett was one mean ass ol’ woman!

  • RUC -
    granny clampett was one mean ass ol’ woman!

  • Well, True, she has sunk a lot of time and a hell of a lot of money into this. And she’s stubborn. And she really does believe no one could be better than her. Just because a lot of us are too stupid to understand isn’t her problem, right?

  • It’s almost as though she thinks the good ‘ol boys she’s worked to be part of are going to rescue her, somehow.

    Hil- News Flash -you ain’t a boy! Forget it.

    I really want this to be over and have us focus on getting Obama into the White House.

    How about you?

  • Absofuckinglutely.

  • Do you think his chances are greatly diminished because of ‘pit bull’ Clinton?

  • Granny Clampett was more convincing … snort. :lol:

  • TB, makes me think Bill might have tried to leave her several times and she just wouldn’t let him. Yeesh.

  • Today some of the right wing whackjob “pundits” are frothing because McCain came out in favor of acting on climate change. Teehee. But of course Obama can’t jump on it because he’s still defending against Billary.

  • McCain’s call to action will end up being much like Dopey’s promise to cut greenhouse gases.
    Lies.

  • Exactly. And if Obama could talk about McCain’s constituents reaction to even a suggestion of change it would be helpful. Today the media is all over him for not campaignine in WV enough.

  • Hellllloooooo!!!!!

  • How’s Billings?!

  • Growing! OMG, it’s grown so much. You should see the “stadium” they’re building for their 1A (?) basball team. Hell, I’d go to games in there. :)

  • Hey, don’t dis Ron Paul…he is much better than Gramps McLosingIt!!

  • Hey, Z…next time you get a chance, pop over to my blog. I have a new REALLY REALLY long post which is just being finished. Another hour or so. FYI since you’re on the road again.

    And now back to…. :D

  • Ron Paul ain’t that much better. Just sayin’. ;)

    I’ll check it out, MizzJ. My connection is MUCH better in this new place.

  • Oh, I am not a Ron Paul fan by any means…but all things are relative.

  • True. :)

    I’m seeing a lot of Obama stickers in Montana.

    Oh lordy, the relatives have arrived. Better git. I’ll check your site later on, and see ya if you’re still up.

    TTFN!

  • Where’d everyone go?

  • Is anyone watching Hillary’s speech in WV?

    Good grief…

  • Heh. She checks in with Bill & Chelsea “at least once, or half a dozen times a day.” :D

  • Oh Jesus, an 11 year old boy sold his bike and video games to support her damned campaign. Damn, I hope she has the class to buy the boy a bike when she has to drop out.

  • Class, Z? Not thus far.

  • Were you watching her face? I think she knows she’s out of there, but she needs to raise money.

  • No, I didn’t watch it.

    I am tired of it. Tired of her. And I am dreading the Swiftboating that will soon be upon us.

  • She is in this thing until her own people are begging her to leave. Sheesh…

    I think the swiftboating of Obama will be merciless, but I think he’ll hold up better than Hillary — who would also undergo a swiftboating.

  • Oh, of course. I think Obama will do better too, because he treats people like adults and advises…he doesn’t just talk to (or down to) them.

  • She was definitely talking down to the people of WV. Her campaign is acting like they never expected to winWV. How stupid do they think we are!?

    Damn, I love this laptop…

  • It’s my mom’s. I’ve hijacked it. :D

  • LOL! Nice! I love my laptops. I hate being tied to a desktop anymore. I am so spoiled. :D

  • I’m being a total slug in my jammies, sitting on the bed, watching the teevee, and drinking a Diet Pepsi. I need to get a laptop, so I never need to leave my bed.

    Of course, I’ll fail school and life. :lol:

  • Speaking of no life…I am going to go watch CSI. Ah, life on the road.

    Check out my new post and let me know what you think.

    Safe travels, dear. Talk soon!

  • Don’t know — I was hoping you’d know. :P

  • Goodnight, MizzJ!

    I’m gonna go see what kind of trash I can find on television. No challenge…

  • Hi Zooey! Nice to see you still able to post! I love my laptop too. Best thing since sliced bread..

    I don’t know if you are keeping up with cartoons in drafts, but check them out.

  • Hi, muse!!

    Good god, I forgot to check them! I’ll put some titles on some of them, and maybe you can put them up tomorrow. Hardly anyone around tonight. :)

  • Are you having fun? :D

  • Yes, it’s going well. :)

    I just noticed Bill Clinton is in Montana. Strange speech.

    I could only think of a couple titles for cartoons. :|

    How are things going with you?

  • Okay. We have three more days… We have an open house on Sunday so I will be working till my brains fall out.. I think I will let down after that.

    I didn’t even watch the news tonight. I didn’t think I could stand to listen to Hillary go on about how she will win even though its impossible short of some seriously dirty pool..

  • I watched her speech tonight in WV. Her voice is so annoying to me. I’d forgotten that.

    She talked like she’d won the damned election, but I could see on her face that she knew it wasn’t true. She was frickin’ fund raising.

    This is a nice little bump for her, but she’s toast.

    Good luck selling the house. I really feel for you having to work so hard lately. I’m not sure I’d handle it so gracefully.

  • therepublicofstupidity

    Excuse me… excuse me…

    Jes’ tryin’ ta git ta the frig…

    ***Sound of door opening… bottles clinking***

    Lemme see… blubber bits… blubber bits…

    Huh… well fer crying’ out loud… who forgot ta git the blubber bits??? Sheeshhh… ya go away fer a couple a weeks ‘n folks fergit yer even alive…

  • TROS!

    Welcome back!
    I wish I knew where you were in VT.
    I would have made the trip to say “Hi.”…..
    and provide you with blubber bits.
    ;)


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