On this day in 1881, Billy the Kid passed away at the age of 31 from an overdose of lead delivered by Sheriff Pat Garrett.
On this day in 1881, Billy the Kid passed away at the age of 31 from an overdose of lead delivered by Sheriff Pat Garrett.
"Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in its veins."Integrity:
Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Source:Brookings Institution, April 5, 2004.
“People like elected officials with guts who say what they mean... I stand by what I said, I didn’t violate any House rules. I didn’t do anything inappropriate. I’m not under any pressure at all.”Deceit:
Rep Alan Grayson (D-FL) during a press interview on September 30, 2009
“What we have seen over the course of the last 24 hour[s] is a Congressman who is completely consumed with his own spotlight and has absolutely no respect for the citizens who elected him.”
Jim Greer, chairman of Florida’s Republican Party in a statement, September 30, 2009.
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132 Comments
July 14, 2009 at 6:39 am
What’s cooking today? Or should I ask, who’s baking today?
July 14, 2009 at 6:50 am
billy was a local legend here. pat garrett had an office here.
lots of history
July 14, 2009 at 7:08 am
Not baking today here, because I’ve got to go to w**k. I am taking in a baker’s dozen of my molasses spice cookies, though. Yesterday’s batch of bar cookies disappeared in short order. Those people will eat anything!
July 14, 2009 at 8:00 am
Well, I think the Republicans are hoping for a bit of roast judge on the Hill today but will probably have to settle for a plate of stupid with a little ass on the side. The stupid will be self served, the ass handed to them.
July 14, 2009 at 8:28 am
“…a plate of stupid with a little ass on the side.”
Med, no wonder the Sanfords and Ensigns of the world got caught with their pants down! Guess they took that “little ass on the side” too literally.
July 14, 2009 at 8:32 am
It was interesting and fun reading the reaction to the new “toys” at TP last night. However, it seems that the GOPsby troll resorted to carpet bombing with his comments in the last thread. At some point, repeatedly voting down comments should result in banning further comments.
At least the new system is helping me identify all the current sockpuppet screennames.
July 14, 2009 at 8:44 am
HOR
Your driver had another big night and is becoming the second Harry Gant. Maybe life does indeed begin again at 50.
July 14, 2009 at 8:49 am
HoR, that’s an excellent point. The vote down seemed to make some of the trolls all the more tenacious, posting even more than usual. We can suggest that, if a troll has X% of it’s posts voted down, it should be banned from further posting.
Of course, it would help if others didn’t cut and paste the entire troll post into their response!
July 14, 2009 at 8:51 am
Mom, I do believe Euripides needs to be updated…
Those whom the gods would destroy, first they make Republicans, then they give them Viagra.
I wonder if Crazy Shelly and Caribou Barbie are what happens when women take viagra?
July 14, 2009 at 8:56 am
DAMMIT!
I’m trying to watch the Sotomayor hearings on C-Span, but it keeps crashing my system.
Good god, I need a life!
July 14, 2009 at 8:57 am
I believe the reason people have been quoting the trolls in the past was that after a troll got banned, the threads became unreadable with the missing comments.
I agree that it isn’t necessary with the new system and the trolls should be flagged, then ignored.
July 14, 2009 at 9:00 am
The Wonk Room is live-blogging again.
I’d rather watch it. *pout*
July 14, 2009 at 9:37 am
Hey Reggie, that was sweet. He laid back and watched the young guns take each other out, first Johnson, then Vickers took Hamlin with him. I was nervous for him on the late restart, but he didn’t let Gordon get the jump on him and he hit his marks to the checkers!
Spencersmom at 8:49 am,
I am usually following on my phone from work while the machine runs, and all that copy-and-paste just makes it harder to scroll past the comments I have already read. Some will refer to a comment number, but when a comment gets banned, the remaining comments get renumbered. I prefer to use the screenname and time, as I did here, but that’s just my personal choice. I also delete all those dashes that show up when a comment gets copied. Most times, the entire comment is not relevant to the response either, and the C&P should be limited to that part.
The point to getting a comment deleted is to protect the site’s reputation, something that TP seems to not be very concerned about, especially on weekends and holidays. All the new system does is hide the comment, and maybe that preserves the site’s rep by our expression of disapproval. We need to continue to use the “report abuse” function on the flagrant violations, like the Santo troll.
By the way, the new system seems to have tempered the infighting already!
July 14, 2009 at 10:43 am
House, I agree. The new system does make it better but Molly makes a good point at 76 on the Grassley thread. Disagreeing with a poster in the new system does not necessarily mean a down vote. As long as the poster is reasonably coherent and nonflaming, it offers a chance for discussion.
I do like that downvoted posts are merely hidden.
July 14, 2009 at 10:44 am
I don’t think they have a moderator on weekends. It seems like everybody who works there is on the payroll and works set hours. Maybe this new system will help them find the scofflaws faster. It does seem to have cut back on infighting among progressives though.
July 14, 2009 at 10:46 am
The down voting seems like a milder correction than anything we’ve had in the past including going balistic over some blatant stupidity. I think what it really offers is a chance for self discipline, something that is lacking all to often over net.
July 14, 2009 at 10:50 am
Zooey got rid of her cable because she’s a purist. Now she’s having withdrawal. What can we do to help? Here, try a little of this http://www.splendicity.com/sheknowsbest/files/2008/01/david-beckham-emporio-armani-underwear.jpg.
July 14, 2009 at 10:57 am
I’m seeing the vote down function working well, even if we are perhaps a bit over zealous these first few days with our new toy. I have no problem disagreeing with a point raised, and will not use the vote down just to flag something with which I disagree, but it certainly has felt empowering and has lowered the overall temperature at TP.
I have noted that AJ and Hansh appear to be absent this the feature was introduced yesterday p.m. so the threads have not been intentionally taken off topic by what I consider to be non-trolls. The new Mr. Cobb is engaging, though, and making good points and getting some recommends, too. Time will tell how and when AJ returns. I’d hate to think I had some hand in permanently running him off because I often agreed with his overall point, if not his style.
The whining I can certainly do without, along with the clique and zoo buddy slams.
July 14, 2009 at 11:10 am
Shayne’s taunting me with the oh-so-pretty Beckham. It’s not working!
July 14, 2009 at 11:11 am
Dang!
July 14, 2009 at 11:12 am
I really enjoy watching Keith and Rachel online.
July 14, 2009 at 11:17 am
Crap. I got a -1 rating on a comment. I feel so dirty.
July 14, 2009 at 11:24 am
We’re here to back you up, Med.
July 14, 2009 at 11:29 am
I appreciate that, Zooey but if I cross the line, I can take the hit. I’d rather know than not.
July 14, 2009 at 11:32 am
I’m assuming you’re talking about the top thread on TP, Med. I don’t see anything out of line.
I’d vote you down if I did, Med, and I’d expect the same from you!
July 14, 2009 at 11:40 am
And you would get it. And I won’t complete the comment because I can’t think of a way to do it that wouldn’t get me slapped.
July 14, 2009 at 11:46 am
I like the way you think, Med.
July 14, 2009 at 11:52 am
Mmmmflbrglmh.
July 14, 2009 at 12:02 pm
July 14, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I’m off for a while. It seems my
vacuum cleanerson has sucked up all the food in the house.July 14, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Zooey, trust me, if YOU can’t find any food, your son has found the food you didn’t even know about.
July 14, 2009 at 12:20 pm
I have seen it all now. While waiting to checkout at the grocery store I read the headlines. According to the Globe, GW has Alzheimers! Laura rushed to his side (though where she might have been went unremarked).
Someone better contact the CDC, I suspect there may be a rash of this.
July 14, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Med, let’s be honest. If GW has a degenerative mental disorder, it’s end-stage syphilis or alcoholic dementia. Or both.
More likely he’s drinking all day every day and The Family is setting the stage for the onslaught of more falling down drunk photos.
Zooey, I have the boy back and the nephew in from CA, and we’ve gone through more food in the past 3 days than I went through the entire 2 weeks S was at camp!
July 14, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Mom, any excuse for mental incompetence will keep him from the spotlight. Just means a tighter focus on the real villain. Hanging puppets is a waste of time and energy.
July 14, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Spencersmom,
Did I read that your Spencer is going to the third grade in the fall?
July 14, 2009 at 12:48 pm
HoR, he’ll be starting 4th grade.
July 14, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Thanks for the warning mom. My little princess will be home Friday and she has a habit of inviting the county over. I better make a Costco run.
July 14, 2009 at 1:06 pm
So he’s about ten, you are just getting to the eating years. Good luck keeping him full!
July 14, 2009 at 1:10 pm
No baking or cooking for awhile. My hot water heater died on Saturday and was put to rest today. My brother-in-law, a real plumber, is installing a tankless hot water heater so the water is turned off until he finishes.
Hope everyone is well. No stories today and Zooey, the woman didn’t mention smoke coming from flight 93 and I didn’t think to ask. Stupid me.
July 14, 2009 at 1:11 pm
s-mum – you better get a second job to keep your growing son fed. Teenage boys are eating machines.
July 14, 2009 at 1:13 pm
teenage boys are garbage disposals with legs.
Pasta.
July 14, 2009 at 1:20 pm
One more thing I want to share about the tankless water heater… there is a tax credit of up to $1500.00 for installing this type of unit. The greening of America.
July 14, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Cats, I would love to get a tankless water heater. In fact, I may do that before I sell my condo. I think it will be a great selling feature. Thanks for the info about the tax credit!
July 14, 2009 at 1:34 pm
When was the last time you tanked your water heater when you were in the shower?
Yeah, I know, it’s a sad joke. I just couldn’t resist.
July 14, 2009 at 1:37 pm
When I was in the UK I ran into a lot of “electric showers”, which is just an online water heater specifically for the shower. Before taking the shower, I had to turn the unit on but I had instant hot water — and when I was done, the unit wasn’t unnecessarily using electricity to keep the water hot.
I think they’re great, as long as the unit is big enough for your needs.
July 14, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Ugh, Med.
gummitch, I’d be reluctant to use something called an “electric shower.” Yikes!
July 14, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Thanks for all the advice on feeding soon to be teen boys. I’ve told him that he’s been riding this gravy train for long enough… 9-years-old is plenty old enough to go out and get himself a job, and that now that I think of it, he’s pretty darned ready to find his own apartment. He just looks at me and laughs…
I want all tankless H2O heaters, too. They also cut way down on water bills because you don’t have to run the water until the hot water reaches where you need it.
July 14, 2009 at 1:45 pm
I apologized.
And when funds allow I plan on both moving my hot water heater (on the other side of the house due to venting) to where it makes more sense. Bosch and some others make heaters that supply hot water ‘on demand’.
July 14, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Hi guys! I’ve been having SO MUCH FUN over at TP! Heh! I cherish being #10 soooo much! Wow. What a difference having a neighborhood crime watch makes! I’m almost giddy.
Med, …tanked you water heater ? weak!:-D
July 14, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Geez, I apologized already.
What a tankless bunch.
July 14, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Mom, it seems like no matter how much food you keep in the house, they will eat it all within 3 days.
July 14, 2009 at 1:52 pm
That’s more like you! ;-D
July 14, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Zooey, go for the spicy stuff. They will still eat it but at least you get to see them sweat.
July 14, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Med,
I have to buy raisin bread just to be sure I’ll be able to get a couple slices of toast in the morning. The boy hates raisins.
July 14, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Zooey, we had 4 teenage boys in my house! The amount of food needed for dinner could feed an army. Then, there was the ever-present complaint; “there’s nothing to eat in this house”. Even though we had an extra freezer just for the meat!
July 14, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Someone posted a link to this video on the Mattera thread. This guy is not only an idiot, he’s barely articulate. Check it out:
July 14, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Your poor Mom, Krystal!
I hear that all the time. There’s nothing to eat. That means there are no easy-to-grab snack hanging around because he ate them already.
July 14, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I tell them the same thing my mom told me…starve. If they are old enough to complain, they are old enough to cook.
July 14, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Zooey, thanks for that video. I was waiting for Matthews to smack him down. It was worth it! He had nothing of substance to say. Just parroted the concervative talking points. No coherence. Typical republican!
July 14, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Med, that sounds like me. My men were never picky eaters because if they wouldn’t eat what I cooked, I didn’t mind letting them wait until the next morning to eat. Neither one of them pulled that more than once or twice. On the other hand, my sister is still cooking separate meals for her 17 year old baby.
I got used to living in my empty nest. If I don’t feel like cooking, I don’t. The boy still doesn’t cook much, but he finds his way.
July 14, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Who knows, Zooey, he may learn to cook and enjoy it. I learned to cook because I got tired of restaurants and because folks said a single guy couldn’t do it.
Now Mom asks me about cooking. Go figure.
July 14, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Med, I really hope so. If I cook, he cleans up — and he really hates cleaning up, even though I’m not a messy cook. I thought he’d learn how to cook just to avoid cleaning up, but he hasn’t. Whatever!
I used to really love to cook, but when I was married it turned into a “have to” situation, and I lost the enjoyment of it. After 16 years of being divorced, I’m starting to enjoy it again.
July 14, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Zooey, I’m glad you are relearning the fun. Cooking has been one of the things that has carried me through 8 years of post divorce. It is just flat out fun.
July 14, 2009 at 2:36 pm
There is a reason why ‘cooking’ has multiple definitions.
July 14, 2009 at 2:39 pm
It is fun, isn’t it? I don’t cook anything seriously fancy, but it tastes good. I made the stuffing at a friend’s place last Christmas, and they acted like they’d never tasted anything so good. I was proud because I made it the way my Mom made it for so many years.
July 14, 2009 at 2:41 pm
What are those other definitions, Med?
July 14, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Is it Saturday already?
July 14, 2009 at 2:45 pm
It’s summer, Med. Everyday is Saturday.
July 14, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I still haven’t learned the emoticon for blush.
July 14, 2009 at 2:51 pm
It doesn’t work anymore. The new smileys are stupid.
July 14, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Ed Shultz just said on the radio that Nancy Pelosi is introducing the health care bill. It’s only being covered by CNBC apparently.
July 14, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Cooking is cooking. I make a mean jambalaya. If you want to know more, well, you can find a way.
July 14, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Ohhhhh, I used to make a killer jambalaya, etoufee, gumbo, and red beans and rice. Yum! I’ll be making the beans and rice and beans for sure in the fall. And probably the jambalaya.
I’d love to get a look at your recipe in the fall.
July 14, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Blush
July 14, 2009 at 3:06 pm
blush is colon oops colon without spaces.
July 14, 2009 at 3:08 pm
It just isn’t as good as it used to be, Cats. It barely blushes at all!
July 14, 2009 at 3:10 pm
The Randi Rhodes show just came on and after only a few minutes I had to turn it off. I’m sorry, but I can’t stand her voice. No matter how low I turn the volume, it’s still too loud. Yeesh…
July 14, 2009 at 3:12 pm
colon oops colon. I have an oops key?
July 14, 2009 at 3:13 pm
I just noticed I have some football player neighbors on the hill across my parking lot.
Not. Bad. At. All.
July 14, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Zooey, my chili took 2nd place here in Wi. And I make a wicked dirty rice.
July 14, 2009 at 3:16 pm
The “oops” key is right next to the “any” key.
July 14, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Silly me. How could I miss the Any key.
July 14, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Dirty rice is da bomb.
Spicy chili?
July 14, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Is there another kind?
July 14, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Yo, folks, I made this soup with tomatoes and kidney beans. Ignore the onions and enjoy the macaroni?
July 14, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Macaroni? In chili?
July 14, 2009 at 3:23 pm
In Cincinnati, they serve it on spaghetti.
July 14, 2009 at 3:24 pm
That’s just wrong…
July 14, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Mine is never the same twice and guaranteed to either grow hair, start forest fires or taste good.
I like the divergence of choice.
July 14, 2009 at 3:27 pm
The pasta must cut the heat of the chili. And it would be extremely filling.
July 14, 2009 at 3:29 pm
You must cook like I do, Med. A recipe is merely a suggestion — except for baking.
July 14, 2009 at 3:31 pm
A very perspicacious observation. I’m something of a purist. I think chili should just taste good. I usually makes a crock of beans that can be added for those who think beans add to the flavor.
July 14, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Zooey, a cook is an intuitive person who can add a little of this, a little of that and make a delicious dish.
A baker is someone who acknowledges the preciseness of ingredients and temperatures.
Two totally different creatures.
July 14, 2009 at 3:39 pm
So, no noodles and yes beans are a western thing?
I always thought beans were more texture than anything else, but then I had chili made with black beans. I realized that the black beans did add texture, but they also added a flavor much like dirt.
Isn’t chili without beans sort of like meat gravy? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
July 14, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Different beans add different flavors. And I suppose you could consider chili without beans as a sort of gravy. Not sure what planet you would live on if you did.
July 14, 2009 at 3:48 pm
My own private Idaho planet. Heh.
July 14, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Wel then I can promise that my chili gravy would be a substantive and entertaining addition to your culinary experience.
July 14, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I could pour your chili gravy over a nice bed of beans.
July 14, 2009 at 3:56 pm
That’s what I do. Add some rice, some guacamole, some pico de gallo on the side. Maybe a bit of shredded cheese and/or some sour cream.
July 14, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Damn, now I’m hungry.
July 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Me too.
Time for me to get offline for a while. The boy needs to watch his Young Turks online.
See ya later!
July 14, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Black beans are my least favorite legume. Erm. Maybe kidney beans. I love limas, all kinds of white beans, pintos and Anasazi beans . . . mmmm, those are good.
I make “chile” with meat and sauce and do a simple dish of beans, or cowboy beans, on the side.
And, no offense Med, but macaroni? I’m going to have to send you to the woodshed.
July 14, 2009 at 4:33 pm
There are times when I wish I was much more rude than I am. I have a neighbor who sits outside and chats on the phone about all manner of personal business, with a big resonant voice that comes right up from his patio and through my balcony door. Acoustics, man! Acoustics!
Sometimes he and his friends sit out there so they can smoke, and talk and talk and talk, sometimes until two in the morning. They’re not really loud, they’re not playing obnoxious music, but it wakes me up and that pisses me off! Shut up!
And, yes, he’s out there right now, droning on and on — for all I know there’s no one on the other end of the call, because he doesn’t ever appear to be listening. Drone, drone. . . shut up!!!!
July 14, 2009 at 4:42 pm
A reminder: no matter how much you do or don’t like baseball, and no matter whether you think the All-Star game is a bad joke, President Barack Obama is throwing out the first pitch. The game “starts” at 8:00 East Coast time, although they always fart around endlessly before the actual baseball. The first pitch shouldn’t be too far off, though.
July 14, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Just watched clips of President Obama in the clubhouses, gabbing with the players. Such a funny, relaxed man, very gracious with the all star players.
July 14, 2009 at 5:45 pm
gummitch, no macaroni or any kind of pasta in my chili. No rice. Maybe beans. I make a tasty pinto/red bean side with smoked pork.
July 14, 2009 at 6:16 pm
When I posted this morning, asking “what’s cooking?” I didn’t realize we’d have a chili cookoff in midday!
Tomorrow I’ll pose the question: What’s grillin’? or What’s poachin’?
Chili… mmm… but, can’t help thinking of Blazing Saddles!
July 14, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Mom, your opening post seems to have been prophetic!
July 14, 2009 at 7:01 pm
“I’m missing the Chili Contest!”
Oh, damn, I missed the first pitch. I guess that I had tuned out all the All-Star buzz.
July 14, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Human/animal hybrids.
Republicans are so funny…and sad.
July 14, 2009 at 7:12 pm
I saw that, Zooey. What the hell is that about? I’ve never heard of human/animal hybrid. Have you?
July 14, 2009 at 7:16 pm
GWB mentioned human/animal hybrids in one of the SOTU addresses. I remember the men and I looking at each other, and busting out laughing.
I guess Sen Brownback has 20 co-sponsors on his bill to prevent them.
Good thing I turned down that date with Manimal.
July 14, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Mermaids aren’t real????
July 14, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Sure they’re real, Reg. I saw that Disney movie!
July 14, 2009 at 7:28 pm
You see, I was thinking more on the lines of science. Like that mouse that grew a human ear after being implanted with the cells. Or maybe heart valves from pigs implanted in heart surgery patients. THEN I remembered….these a republicans….. “what’s science”? DUH! :-p
July 14, 2009 at 7:30 pm
krystal, I think Brownback is dumb enough to believe his pet chimpanzee when she tells him the baby is his.
July 14, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Dr Matt offered to buy Proud a burger at a White Castle that was a few blocks away from the college where Obama spoke today. I offered to throw in fries and a beverage, but Proud didn’t take us up on the offer, despite the fact he claimed to lives a short distance away.
Wasn’t that rude?
July 14, 2009 at 7:31 pm
You crack me up!
July 14, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I’m here to serve, krystal.
Reg, what thread?
July 14, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Tom Brownback believes in Intelligent Design. He doesn’t believe in Evolution. What is he worried about? That a human scientist might do something only God is supposed to be able to do? (And doesn’t the God he worships often use humans to carry out His will?) I’m really not understanding what his actual position is.
July 14, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Reggie, I think it was fear more than anything!
July 14, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Wayne, Its sorta like why would his God allow humans to get the knowledge to do something only God is supposed to do? If he’s trying to stop it, is he doing God’s bidding or going against God’s will? It’s a very tortured line of thought.
July 14, 2009 at 7:38 pm
COMMENT 56
July 14, 2009 at 7:42 pm
krystalviews, it was still poor manners because he never thanked either of us for the generous offer.
July 14, 2009 at 7:46 pm
27 Ingredient Chili – a recipe and a whodunnit too
http://recipes.chef2chef.net/recipe-archive/54/288839.shtml
I usually stop at around 17 or 18 ingredients….
July 14, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Aww Reggie! Your talking about a TROLL, right?
Behaving in a rude, ignorant, ungrateful manner is in their DNA.
I – on the other – hand found it to be a very generous, classy act by both of you.
July 14, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Hee hee, my son sent me this funny Al Franken video. Nice six pack, Al!!
July 14, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Anyhoo, I’m outta here for the evening. It’s cool enough to do stuff around here. Dammit.
Goodnight, all!
July 14, 2009 at 7:56 pm
G’night Zooey
July 14, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Have a wonderul evening, Zooey!
July 14, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Terry, 27 ingredients sounds awfully ambitious
July 14, 2009 at 8:56 pm
TtT,
My father worked for a defense contractor and on one occasion had a term on a naval destroyer. He had a spaghetti meal on board and asked the mess cook for the recipe for the sauce. First line on the recipe said serves 120. Mom decided to cut the recipe by a factor of 8 (s/b 15 servings) for our family of seven = two meals. We ate spaghetti for a week.
Your chili recipe could have fed the crew that was on that destroyer.
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