The Watering Hole: August 10 – HTML Un-Ordered Lists

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The simplest expression of an un-ordered or bulleted list is:

<ul>
<li>Item 1</li>
<li>Item 2</li>
<li>Item 3</li>
</ul>

Which yields:

  • Item 1
  • Item 2
  • Item 3

The advantage of lists are that they allow one to present information points in a structured fashion that grab the eye. WP does not provide support for all list options. For more information, go here.

This is our open thread. Please feel free to offer your own comments on this or any other topic. You can also hone your list skills in the comments section.

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85 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: August 10 – HTML Un-Ordered Lists”

  2. A plane carrying eight passengers has crashed in Alaska, and the likelihood is that Ted Stevens was on board. There are “possible fatalities” but no certainty. Rescue efforts are being hampered by bad weather.

  3. Hi Keepers and Critters,

    Can someone please provide me with Faiz’s email? I’d like to mount one last effort to get him/TP to moderate the forum over there before I decide to leave permanently.

    Am so sick of the hate speech that goes unchecked and “vote down” is simply not enough.

    Thanks Walt for the HTML tips!

    • Just a drive-by comment. I’m going to be away from this thursday until end of next week. Sigh.

      spencersmom, we love to have you here, just sayin’! I have written a lengthy letter to TP and CAP complaining about the situation at TP, but haven’t heard back from either, that was over ten days ago. I do not think they take this situation seriously. Maybe if noone commented at all, except the troll they would realize. Crooksandliars is my second favourite hangout the first will always be the zoo, of course. They are perfectly happy with having some 50 comments or less but provide good content. HuffPo have myriads of comments, but from what I can see, the they get some trollies pretty bad, too. (To think I got moderated there for more than once :( ) They have reduced policing and go for high numbers of comments, too. Bad choice, if you ask me. By all means try and get faiz see some sense. I am not optimistic, however.

  4. Good morning everyone!

    That mosque business is out of control. It used to be that people would couch their disapproval in terms of additional traffic or concerns about parking, etc. Now the rabid rightwingers have made it entirely OK to expose the bigotry that’s been there all along. We’ve had it in my area too–that mosque in Temecula brought the idiots and their dogs out on a recent Friday during Muslim prayers. I was glad to see that the bigots were way outnumbered by supporters. But still…the ugliness exposed is shameful. And the bottom line is that these people now have no shame. None at all (or at least they no longer hesitate to display the fact that they have no shame). Where’s Edward R. Murrow when you need him?

  5. Voted in the primary today. Turnout is light, and there is a flood inducing downpour. I was #23 at 9:20am.

    Sad about the plane crash. Despite any feelings I may have about Stevens politically, this is a sad tragedy. A former NASA chief was also on the plane. This brings up painful reminders of Paul Wellstone’s death. I recall, vividly, where I was at when I heard that sad news.

  6. Hi, spencersmom,

    Always a pleasure to see you here (or anywhere). You can write to Faiz at fshakir@americanprogress.org. Good luck.

    I had sent in a suggestion that they add the McCain thread a clip of him saying he doesn’t understand the economy very much, and he wrote back saying it was a “great suggestion.” They then added another “related link” to their list. But no “h/t”. And no response to any of the other things I write them about all the time.

  7. OMG, Fox News Channel has my former US Senator, Al D’Amato, on the phone to discuss the plane crash with Ted “Series of Tubes” Stevens on board. (I only switched to FNC because I figured they would stay on the plane crash story until they know one way or the other what happened to Senator No.) I had really hoped that I would never hear from my corrupt Senator again. I guess I should change the channel. I’m just trying to get a sense of the tone over at FNC at the news that their friend may be dead.

    The National Guard and/or Coast Guard has reached the crash site, but no word yet on identities.

  8. You know how we always criticize the 24-hour “news” channels when they stay with a “breaking story”, and just drone on and on without saying anything knowledgeable or of substance? That’s what Fox News Channel is doing right now with this Alaskan plane crash story. CNN also seems to be staying with the story until they learn something beyond what they already know (that Ted Stevens and former NASA Administrator Sean O’Keefe were on board.) MSNBC is touching on the story every few minutes and updating us with details as they learn them. (If I go back to MSNBC, I can watch the woman who went nuts over her Chicken McNuggets.)

  9. Thanks Wayne! I’m going to do my best, and I can be a real pest when I feel I must. I’ll report back if I get any satisfactory response.

    It does seem odd, though, that there is so little troll traffic today at TP. Not complaining, just observing. There is also very little posting from regulars as well.

    I wonder if having the trolls to refute is necessary to keeping the interest up on the threads? A terrible statment about some progressives if it is true…

  11. I have now seen two different pictures of what the plane Stevens was on looks like. Well, the propeller was definitely different in the two pictures. So one of the networks got it wrong.

  12. spencersmom,

    I have a theory (not popular) that the trolls might actually be employees of the CAP who post the ridiculous things they post for the sole purpose of letting us refute the arguments.

    One observation that led me to think this was that there is always at least one of them who says whatever the latest right-wing talking point on a subject is. The troll posts the talking point, and we (collectively or individually) find links that prove that talking point wrong. That they keep repeating the well-rebuked talking point is what I can’t quite figure out. :lol:

  13. Stevens killed in crash near Dillingham

    Dave Dittman, a former aide and longtime family friend of former Sen. Ted Stevens says Stevens was killed in a plane crash near Dillingham Monday night. Nine people were on board, including former NASA Chief Sean O’Keefe. Five people were killed in the crash, but other identities were not known, nor are the conditions of the survivors.

  14. CNN has moved on to something else, but FNC is staying with the plane crash story.

    But in their summary of what they know before going to commercial, FNC did not mention that Stevens was (or may have been) killed. All they said was “New information coming up.”

  15. FNC is now reporting the “sad news” that, according to “local media”, that Ted Stevens is dead. As of this second, I imagine they are referring to the same local media to which House linked.

    Was Ted Stevens the “longest serving Republican Senator in US history”? Didn’t Strom Thurmond serve longer? (FNC says Ted served longer.)

  21. Googling Strom Thurmond revealed that his tenure (even interrupted) was longer than Ted Stevens’. Why do they get that fact wrong when it is so easy to check? And I don’t cover politics for a living.

    FNC just played a clip of Obama advising students to take responsibility for their own mistakes, and then the anchor throws a crack about how Obama blames everyone else for his problems. No proof, no evidence, pure opinion masquerading as undeniable fact. (No wonder I don;t watch that network.)

    MSNBC is saying that they are trying to confirm “local media reports” about the Alaskan plane crash, but won’t say what those local reports say. (Which is that Stevens is dead.)

  23. That was one of the planes they showed, gummitch. They also showed one that had a different prop design. It was extended out farther from the nose of the plane and looked completely different. ALso, on this page:

    http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbs=isch:1&&sa=X&ei=PI9hTKLfLcT38AaE56SLCQ&ved=0CCMQBSgA&q=De+Havilland+DHC-3T.&spell=1&biw=1280&bih=786

    In the third row, there are two model planes on stands. They look like different planes. How could they be the same model of plane?

  27. Yeah, gummitch. One of the planes they showed on TV was like the beaver model, which doesn’t look anything like the other pics. How could they be the same model of plane? I accept that they were made by the same manufacturer, but to me, they’re two different planes.

  28. Wayne, notice how we weren’t invited to the party in Oregon. Don’t talk to gummitch until he apologizes. ;)

  29. I did, Shayne. Once the other networks started hinting that they knew Stevens was dead, there was no longer any use in leaving FNC on. And my stomach feels better already. (It’s why I stayed home from work today.) :)

  31. This April 29, 2005 photo released by John Olafson, shows an aircraft with tail number N455A, leaving Vernon, British Columbia, Canada and headed to Alaska. The National Transportation Safety Board reports that at about 8:00 p.m. Alaska Daylight Time on Monday, Aug. 9, 2010, a DeHavilland DHC-3T with tail number N455A crashed 10 miles northwest of Aleknagik, Alask

  32. I heard on the radio that Ted Stevens had survived a prior plane crash, in the 70′s I think, which killed his wife. I wonder what the odds are of one person being in two crashes are.

  35. Outstanding, Alaska is, in area, the largest state in the Union. One of the major forms of transportation: float planes. So it would seem the chance of someone being in more than one crash would increase.

    Florida has boat docks/piers next to houses -
    Alaska has float-plane tie-ups.

  37. Why is it that so many liberal blogs feature pop-up and banner ads for Wingnut causes? I saw an ad earlier today for Michelle Bachmann, for crying out loud. On one hand, I guess it’s amusing that right wing causes are funding left wing blogs, but I have to wonder what the advertisers think they’ll get in return. Does a photo of the Minnesota nutbag, with copy extolling her patriotic connections to tea bags, convince liberals that they were wrong all this time?

  38. Sorry to keep bringing up this “longest serving Republican” stuff again, but I think the reason Strom doesn’t count is because a large part of his tenure was as a Democrat, back when it had a lot of Dixiecrats in it. After the Civil Rights Bill passed, the bigots Dixiecrats jumped ship and joined the Republican Party, and they have been the party of racist bigots ever since.

    I know we aren’t supposed to speak ill of the dead, but that’s not the same as being required to not speak ill of the dead, and, to me, it says something about a person who wants to associate himself with a political party dedicated to openly promoting racism. And who can argue that the Republicans are not the party racists can call “Home”? And yet no one in that party today seems all that bothered by that fact.

    Am I saying Ted Stevens was a racist? No. I am simply saying that for a very long time, he sure must have felt at home with them.

  39. spencersmom, I stopped wasting my time with TP precisely because the lack of moderation. No point visiting a site that is fine with posters advocating racism and other such “virtuous” behaviours.

    Crooks and Liars manages to actually be worse, not just from the morons being on other end of the spectrum but the moderation actively banning users for pointing out the trolling is not appropriate.

  40. Fun tweet from @fivethirtyeight (of fivethirtyeight.com):

    Prediction: “Take the emergency slide” will become some new kind of business-speak euphemism

    I like it. Something less that “going postal” but higher than just storming out the door.

  41. I have been waiting all day for someone to imbed my example in a post.

    The result would yield this:

    • Item 1
    • Item 2
    • Item 3

    The bottom line is that the bullets are lost to the WP comment editor.The bullets could be inserted by direct character editing. I will get into these special characters next week.

  42. Walt, what’s interesting is it may be a style sheet issue.

    In the e-mail I got notifying of your post, I could see the bullets there. But don’t see them here.

  44. zxbe,
    You taught me something. I still think that the bullets should appear in the comment!

  50. • Item 1

    Walt, the only way for me to get the bullet is use option/alt 8 to get that bullet.

  51. The last time I sent an item to Faiz, he used it without so much as a hat tip. So:

    City buses will soon carry a provocative advertisement that opposes the construction of a mosque near ground zero and depicts a plane flying toward a flaming World Trade Center, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority said Monday.

    The group behind the advertisement had sued the authority last week, alleging that the advertisement had initially been rejected as inappropriate.

    The advertisement juxtaposes a photograph of the World Trade Center, seen in the instant before the second tower was hit, with a rendering of the controversial mosque and Islamic center planned for Lower Manhattan. In bold capital letters, the ad asks, “Why There?”

  52. I posted this elsewhere, but thought it would be a chance to practice here with something more interesting than “Item 1″

    Doctors are not (in general) scientists; they are technicians.

    – A scientist is someone who engages in inquiry to discover new, fundamental facts.

    – An engineer is someone who engages in inquiry to create new applications from previously disovered facts.

    – A technician is someone who engages in inquiry to maintain previously existing applications.

    Anyway, this has been a test. We now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcasting.

  55. Doh, I ran into the problem that authors and posters have different levels of HTML. Mine got swallowed up completely.

    What you may want to try (anyone with edit/author permissions) is this:

    <ul>
    <li style=”list-style:disc”>Item 1</li>
    </ul>

  60. Michael Moore talking about the documentary “The Tillman Story” on Pat Tillman. Funny none of us ever heard of it.

  61. That’s on Keith. Robert Gibbs dissed the left yesterday for complaining about the administration. That’s wise. :roll:

  65. Checking some news over at CNN, I came across this headline: How The Palins Stay In The Limelight. I think it’s a trick question. It would seem to me that a large photo and headline on CNN’s home page might actually be one of the ways in which the Palin’s stay in the damn limelight! I’m just sayin’.

  66. Glad you made it home safe, Zooey. But I guess it isn’t even dark yet at your place.

    • I see my *sniff* was premature. :D

      Had to get some wine, which wasn’t even cold yet, so I put ice in it. You wine connoisseurs get a grip, oh tay?

      • Actually, I think I’ll put up a password protected post, so I can brag extensively about my son’s amazing neighborhood. :D

        Gotta find a picture…

  69. Georgia Republican Governor Runoff 100% reporting

    Nathan Deal 290,580 50.2%
    Karen Handel 288,091 49.8%

    Handel was the Palin supported candidate. I wonder how she would have done without the endorsement.

  70. Palin’s suffered quite a number of endorsement failures of late. (Nothing eclipses the big one of endorsing John McCain for president…)

    Here in MN, sadly, the Palinista, Tom Emmer easily is winning the GOP endorsement.

    On the DFL side, we had a race of three very great candidates. Matt Entenza has already conceded as the distant third. But Margaret Anderson Kelliher is currently leading Mark Dayton. Going into the race, Dayton was leading in the polls, so this could get interesting. Don’t know exactly what parts of the state are still yet to report.

    Either one pairs up nicely against Emmer in pre-primary polling.

  71. Emmer didn’t look like he needed Palin. She endorsed a heavy favorite already.

    Do they have runoffs in Mn.?

    • Hi, Gary!!

      Palin should have gone out with the garbage. She sucks. And one day she’ll know it.

      Sadly, I live for that day.

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