The Watering Hole: October 19 — Dedicated to Mitt Romney

“He doesn’t know when he’s winning. He doesn’t know when he’s losing. He has no sort of sensory apparatus whatsoever.”

Last night, while we were discussing the sad comedic ability of Mitt Romney at the Al Smith Dinner, despite having reasonably good material, our friend Pete reminded me of this excellent Monty Python sketch — Upper Class Twit of the Year.

Is this perfect, or what!?  Thanks, Pete!

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113 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: October 19 — Dedicated to Mitt Romney

  1. Sooooo…Gallup has Romney ahead of Obama 51-45?

    Nate Silver Doesn’t Think So

    The Gallup poll is accounted for in the forecast model, along with all other state and national surveys.
    However, its results are deeply inconsistent with the results that other polling firms are showing in the presidential race, and the Gallup poll has a history of performing very poorly when that is the case.

    According to Silver, the forecast is 291 electoral votes to 246. The Senate majority is 86 % likely to remain In Democrat control.

  2. Promo for John Fugelsang’s show on Current: “I love Mitt Romney’s debate style, but I’ll tell ya, if I could be that stiff for ninety minutes I’d _______”

    How would you fill in the blank?

  3. Yes, because he clearly tried to cover up the fact that people were killed. Oh wait, no he didn’t.

    Seriously, all the brouha over “he didn’t call it terrorism” is idiotic. Reminds me of kids on the playground who said you didn’t wear the right kind of sneakers.

    Really don’t recall Fox asking that question about Bush regarding 9/11.

    ‘Special Report’ investigates death and deceit in Benghazi | Fox News

    une in to Fox News this Friday at 10 p.m. ET for a “Special Report” investigation on the Libya consulate attack. 

    Bret Baier anchors an investigation into the violent fiasco in Libya that ended in the deaths of a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. 

    The special includes Baier’s exclusive interview with the head of the U.S. Embassy’s Site Security Team, and the latest developments from Benghazi. 

    It will also include additional reports from the White House and the campaign trail — where voters are asking:  What did President Obama know, and when did he know it?

    • It is in the best interest of Fox News that Obama win in November. If Romney were to win, who would Fox bash? All the commentators that Fox has hired since Obama became president would have no one to complain about. Fox would lose more of its dwindling audience.

      • Fox would complain about all those Democrat/librul/socialist/commie/feminazi/tree-huggers still in office.

  4. New Margaret and Helen was up yesterday. ‘Herman and Eddie Munster were better when they were in Black and White’

  5. The good ol’ “librul media”. Most of them said that Mittens won the first debate despite the fact that they knew he was lying through his teeth. Then they produced poll results showing a jump for Mittens within 24 hours. These same people declared President Obama won the second debate largely because he did what we were all hoping and called out Mittens’ lies in real time. But, where are the poll results? Several polls since that second debate have shown that the momentum has switched back to Obama but one won’t realize that unless one goes to the source. The “news” programs and front pages are strangely silent.

  6. Some VERY troubling numbers for the president. One of Romney’s clear disadvantages in this race is that Obama was for a long time basically liked much more than Romney and the Obama campaign’s spring and summer offensive on his record and image helped widen this gap. It’s now gone entirely.

    The big turning point is Romney’s first debate, when he effectively undid in one night almost everything the Obama campaign had thrown at him since the spring. It was a new market; Willard had a new sales pitch; a new set of policies; a personality implant. And for many low-information voters, and others, that was enough.

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/mitt-romney-favorability#!minpct=30&maxpct=55&mindate=2012-06-01&showpoints=no&estimate=custom

    • I caught a Morning Joe discussion about the discrepancies in the poll numbers this year. the polls showing large spreads between candidates were actually the ones in question….most are close, and are expected to stay close through the election.

      There are discussions about Rmoney winning the popular vote with Obama winning the electoral college and election…..

      Pass the popcorn!

    • On the other hand? Gallup and Pew, just to name two, both show Obama’s approval rating steady or increasing. This bit of info is not being reported. Then there are the swing state polls. Most moved towards Mittens after debate/debacle #1 but Obama held a slim lead and they are now pretty much back to pre-debate levels. Also not being reported.

      We always have to remember that the corporate media have their own agenda. As long as they keep up the impression that the race is close? Both sides will continue to dump money into ads. The networks win no matter what.

      • That’s right, Pete. The media wants the ad money and they want people tuning in so it is in their best interest to keep the race close. Even when Obama had a big lead, the media kept calling the race tie.

  7. Obama is finally owning his economic achievements and the gathering strength of the US economy. It makes him the optimist, Romney the pessimist.

    • The Romney/RNC/Crossroads/etc. ads are so depressing that it’s a wonder Virginia hasn’t been plagued by a wave of suicides.

  8. Vet Criticizes Brown For Claim He ‘Served’ In Afghanistan

    But Brown’s service in Afghanistan was not combat. It was part of his annual two-week stint with the National Guard, in which he requested, in a highly unusual move, to serve in Afghanistan.

    I didn’t know this while watching the debate where Brown referenced his ‘tour’ in Afghanistan. They wouldn’t send a ‘two week soldier’ into harm’s way. This was entirely a move to phony up his resume.

    • It probably took a few days of that two weeks just to travel there and back. Unless he has some fabulous special skill I’m unaware of, I doubt anything he did there made it worth sending him there. I think he owes the american taxpayer some money.
      These people disgust me.

      • “Unless he has some fabulous special skill I’m unaware of”

        Maybe he considers posing in beefcake photos as a “special skill.”

  9. Growing Up Romney

    Noam Scheiber sees a pattern in the Romney family’s myth of self-reliance:

    “Not long after graduating from Harvard Business School, [Tagg] turned down offers from several prominent firms to join an obscure start-up called eGrad, whose meager resources gave it a kind of grunge aesthetic: secondhand furniture and heating so erratic he brought in blankets to keep warm. …

    But making it on your own is never so clear-cut when you’re a Romney. Some of the biggest meetings he landed were with Staples, which his father had funded at Bain Capital, and General Motors, a company where his last name still carried weight. Tagg’s biography is littered with … short cuts he couldn’t have taken without his last name … And yet, thanks to the Romney myth, he and his family believe that most of what he has achieved comes from old-fashioned industriousness. … The problem is that Tagg’s blind spots are also Mitt’s. And Mitt’s peculiar version of reality doesn’t just drive him personally; it skews his politics and shapes his policies.”

    http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/108815/tagg-romney-myth-self-reliance

  10. Why you should ignore Gallup’s recent polling:

    “Gallup’s likely voter universe is actually even whiter than their likely voter surveys prior to the 2010 midterm elections, which was 79 percent white. This observation is likely to produce one of two responses, with Democrats all but assured to assert that the poll is demonstrably wrong and Republicans taking it as confirmation that Democratic enthusiasm is down, particularly among the non-white voters who brought Obama to victory four years ago.”

    Nate Silver examines Gallup’s record:

    “In 2008, the Gallup poll put Mr. Obama 11 points ahead of John McCain on the eve of that November’s election. That was tied for Mr. Obama’s largest projected margin of victory among any of the 15 or so national polls that were released just in advance of the election. The average of polls put Mr. Obama up by about seven points. The average did a good job; Mr. Obama won the popular vote by seven points. The Gallup poll had a four-point miss, however.”

    He notes that Gallup also missed the 2010 results by roughly 8 points.

    • 8 felonies and 5 misdemeanors and he was released on his own recognizance? That smells.

  11. Secret Boy Scout files show abuse cover-up

    An array of US local authorities – police chiefs, prosecutors, pastors and town Boy Scout leaders among them – quietly shielded scoutmasters and others who allegedly molested children, according to a newly opened trove of confidential files compiled from 1959 to1985.

    At the time, those authorities justified their actions as necessary to protect the good name and good works of scouting. But as detailed in 14,500 pages of secret “perversion files” released on Thursday by order of the Oregon Supreme Court, their maneuvers protected suspected sexual predators while victims suffered in silence.

    The files document sex abuse allegations across the country, from a small town in the Adirondacks to downtown Los Angeles.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012101985654375804.html

    • Because, just like the football program at Penn State, Boy Scouts is far more important than children.

      Hell, if they didn’t want to get molested, they shouldn’t have joined the Boy Scouts. :evil:

      • Don’t leave out the Mother Church. Have you ever heard a priest or bishop, making their inevitable appearances after the latest molestation case, lay any blame on the church? Heck! Have any of them even proclaimed that the offender is evil and going to Hell? Nah!

        And why is it that it always seems to be “good Christians”? I didn’t make it through my first meeting as a Boy Scout because I was informed that I would have to learn prayers to be accepted. I did try to explain that I could not, in good conscience, recite a prayer because I didn’t believe a word of it and refused to be a hypocrite. It didn’t fly. Oh well. My woodcraft already exceeded anything I was likely to learn from scouting anyway.

    • Brown must be feeling like Custer about now, as the arrows begin to come at him from all sides. Timing is everything in an advertising campaign, and Warren’s people are making the most of it, it would appear.

    • …Scott Brown has shoved his foot way down his throat and up his own ass at the same time.

      When you head’s buried in your ass, that’s not such a great trick…

  12. Nate Silver is seeing some slippage for Rmoney. Over the last week, the “chance of winning” had not gone well for Obama, down to roughly 66% v 33%. Now it’s closer to 70:30.

    • Romnesia has no known cure, The best method to combat the disease is to quarrantine the afflicted, as far away from government service as possible!

  13. Heh, Howard Kurtz is reading Turtle on the Zoo:

    ““It opens him up to the argument that, how is he going to negotiate with Vladimir Putin if he’s afraid of sitting down with Whoopi Goldberg?””

    I think I said that on weds. IN other news Queen Antoinette compares miltary service to brainwashing foreigners for Brigham Young’s Cult.

    • That whole thing just creeps me out. They are billing themselves as equivalent to “conscientious objectors”. I would say that they compare very poorly with, for instance, Quakers who served as medical personnel in war zones or even USO entertainers. I don’t think it’s too hard to make the case that the Rmoney clan are cowards. At the very least they are too selfish to do without obscene income for a couple more years.

  14. QOTD:

    “The interesting thing about grief, I think, is that it is its own size. It is not the size of you. It is its own size. And grief comes to you. You know what I mean? I’ve always liked that phrase He was visited by grief, because that’s really what it is. Grief is its own thing. It’s not like it’s in me and I’m going to deal with it. It’s a thing, and you have to be okay with its presence. If you try to ignore it, it will be like a wolf at your door,” – Stephen Colbert, who lost his father at a young age, in an interview with Playboy.

    • The last time I was in a union I found that the oath implied that I couldn’t support any candidate not endorsed by said union. No one else had ever mentioned it but, after I explained that I really didn’t feel comfortable with the wording, we changed it. If any employer had ever insisted that I vote for someone, much less campaign for or endorse them, it would have been a loud and messy resolution.

  15. Has anyone in the “librul media” asked Ms. McMahon about her complicity in the death of dozens of her employees due to steroid use? She and her husband set the standard for bulked up monsters and anyone without the preferred physique didn’t stand a chance. And that doesn’t include the countless wrestlers discarded after injury and/or being caught using steroids. I guess it really is best that she avoid the subject but, until and unless the “librul media” questions her about these things? She has no right to blame them for her reticence.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/10/19/1048831/mcmahon-social-security-media/

  16. On his Facebook posts, George Patriarca, a Scott Brown supporter, calls Elizabeth Warren a “DOUCHEBAG.” On another he labels the president a “faggot,” and on a third he says, “there is a Muslim in the White House.”

    “My intent was not to piss anyone off, but to do my due diligence … and some people got offended,” Patriarca writes.

    Man, that is some weak sauce.

  17. A bit of a funny. Yesterday I was traveling with my boss who has right wing leanings and as we left a customer job site he was carping about hating to wear safety glasses. Seems he has vision problems he wears special contacts for because without them he is legally blind. He then joked that he should take advantage of the disabled/handicapped things offered by our socialist government.

    I agreed and told him he should apply for handicapped plates for his car and tell them the reason he needed them is because he is blind.

    He damn near wet himself laughing.

    • When I was at Warner Bros. working as a digital colorist, a job that requires a myriad of visual aesthetic judgements, quickly rendered and repeated thousands of times a day, we got a big kick out of the suite name posted on the door to the room, in English: Telecine Room 1 and also written in Braille.

    • How does wearing contact lenses adversely affect him wearing safety glasses?

      I hope you do the driving when you travel with him.

      • I wondered about that as well but decided to go with a civil righty boss/lefty employee moment. And was glad it was a short trip.

  18. Very satisfying morning. Just finished a gift bag for the shop that used up a lot of scraps of Xmas fabric, and it is gorgeous. The bad thing is that it took so long to put together!

    • I always enjoy making something useful out of scrap materials, but it tends to make one hoard things too much.

      • House, that brings back a memory. When my dad died we had to go through his stuff and found a grocery bag full of black walnut shells he had gathered because he had heard about a project where one could thinly slice them and make decorations.

        • You should have seen my deceased father in law’s workshop, when we cleaned it out after my mother in law passed. It was full of scrap metal and jars of screws, nails, electronic parts. He threw away nothing. I’m almost as bad, where car parts are concerned.

  19. A warning to all. Bryan Fischer says we have a Gay Gestapo and they are out to get us. Well, they are out to get people like him. I’m trying to find out if there is somewhere we can donate funds to that effort.

  20. The Salt Lake City Tribune, who knows Willard well, endorses the President:

    “Sadly, it is not the only Romney, as his campaign for the White House has made abundantly clear, first in his servile courtship of the tea party in order to win the nomination, and now as the party’s shape-shifting nominee. From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: “Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?”

    The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.”

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-romney-obama-president.html.csp

  21. I’ve met actress Kathleen Turner, a long time ago.

    But good grief, who was that woman on Hardball calling herself Kathleen Turner?

    Yeeeh.

      • Oh c’mon, the woman is younger than I am. She’s been very hard on herself and she looks like she’s had some botched nip ‘n tuck work.

        • I am willing to bet if she understood the depth of your feelings she would work harder and employ a better surgeon.

          • Hey, you haven’t been messing around with invisible Obama have you? And you better watch out for Clint, he might want to lecture you! :smile:

        • Women don’t age as well as men, and sure as hell are not forgiven for it.

          I’m not saying you’re wrong, badmoodman, I’m just a woman in my 50s who has become invisible, and I wouldn’t trade invisibility for the kind of pressure on female actors for the world.

          • I love being invisible, I don’t miss being yelled at by rednecks. Speaking of how men age…the rednecks don’t fair well.

            • Here they do OK. A new 4WD pickup every couple of years seems to well-serve their (imaginary) pants bulge. Does anyone know what it is about driving a noisy pickup real fast that causes an imaginary pants bulge? Just curious. Can’t be the Romney-Ryan bumper sticker, can it? Nah.

            • I wouldn’t drive Robby Gordon’s Baja winning truck fast. I don’t do well with a high center of gravity.

          • “Women don’t age as well as men”

            Uh huh, Sophia Loren has really let herself go while Nick Nolte is as hunky as ever. Careful about those blanket generalizations.

            And I have no idea how you’ve “become invisible” unless you mean you’re somehow related to Claude Rains.

        • I apologize, badmoodman. Not necessarily for what I said, but for my snide tone. My fuck it attitude seems to be racking up a body count.

          • “My fuck it attitude seems to be racking up a body count.” I know you were being sincere, but that line struck my funny bone. Hard to keep balanced when you want to go clockwise, and the world is in a counter-clockwise mode. Don’t be to hard on yourself if and when you feel the need. The ‘fuck it attitude” has always been one of your numerous charms.

        • Conditions, conditions! If I were me and I was sober, I’d ask if I could kiss her.

          • To which she replies, “Oooohhh…”, then clasps her hands together with her fingers interlocked and touches her nose with them three times in succession, thus signaling to Security that “she’s got another one”. and before you know it, two very large men are “politely” (which means, mostly non-violently) escorting you out the building.

            Best to admire from afar… :)

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