McCain Loses Again – Focused On “Joe The Plumber”

Here is a small segment of Katie Couric talking with Joe the Plumber after the debates to get his reactions. He said he wasn’t swayed by the debate.

Joan Walsh took issue with McCain’s harping on Joe the Plumber. She has a good point bringing this up in her op-ed. I know I’m sick of hearing about him already. If you can’t be successful in Ohio making 250k+ something is seriously wrong. We have a low cost of living here, housing is very affordable, and grocery prices are always within reason. So either Joe the Plumber, is bad with his money or he has always been a diehard Republican that is trying to get attention from the media. Here are Joan Walsh’s noteworthy points about the debate.

John McCain promised to kick Barack Obama’s “you know what” on Wednesday night. He hinted that he’d bring up former Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers and worse. Instead McCain bludgeoned Obama with Joe the Plumber, and the effect was more farce than fierce.

McCain mentioned the now-famous plumber, Joe Wurzelbacher, an apparently wealthy Toledo businessman who complained he’d pay more taxes under Obama’s plan, more than he talked about Sarah Palin or Osama bin Laden, by far. Midway through the 90-minute conversation, Obama was addressing Joe the Plumber, too. And it was clear by then that McCain had lost three straight debates.

His worst move was ridiculing Obama’s support for abortion rights measures that protect “the health of the mother.” He sneered out the words, “health of the mother,” and actually framed them in air quotes. His standing with women was already plummeting; watch it drop more from here.

McCain’s take on the economic crisis was likewise tin-eared. He again promised a spending freeze, which most economists believe would be a terrible move during a recession, and said he’d first take a hatchet, then a scalpel to the federal budget, which sounded a little deranged. He kept talking about “angry” voters, and again, he sounded angry, a little bit too angry. He did bring up Bill Ayers, as well as the claim by civil rights hero John Lewis that the McCain-Palin campaign is fostering a climate of racial division and even violence. The two men’s exchange over the tenor of the campaign wound up being one of Obama’s finest moments, and one of McCain’s worst.

Obama defended Lewis as a “hero,” while noting that Lewis himself had backed away from the statement a bit, and then criticized McCain for tolerating rallies where backers scream “terrorist” and “traitor.” That pushed McCain into declaring flatly: “I’m proud of the people who come to our rallies. I’m not going to stand for them saying that the people who come to our rallies are anything other than the most patriotic great citizens.” (I can’t wait to see that clip spliced along with ugly moments at McCain-Palin rallies; someone’s working on that now, I promise.) Overall, McCain, who’s run the most negative campaign of the two, sounded like the biggest whiner. He complained about trying to watch an Arizona Cardinals football game on Sunday, but “Every other ad was an attack ad on my healthcare plan.” Poor John.

For the rest of Joan Walsh’s op-ed.

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13 thoughts on “McCain Loses Again – Focused On “Joe The Plumber”

  1. Shayne, you are the best. I will check it out. Thanks for the links. You are such a sweetheart :)

  2. I need to start drinking again, or maybe not…Today is another one of those morning’s after the debate night that I woke up feeling like I had been on a bender….Enter stage left a cup of coffee and asprin..

    Another great thread and post’s Freedom & Shayne..Between here and TP the information is huge…Can’t hardly keep up..Thank you for all the work you do….

    Think I will take some time to walk Oso, fill the bird feeder’s and hug the tree’s today…You all have a great day…..Blessings

  3. What Joe the Plumber was in fact Joe the Plant?

    As Bible Spice says – say it aint so!

  4. Thanks witch1 :) I hope you feel better! It’s starting to get a little cool here so I have been working on a batch of chili.

    I make chili a little different than most people. I use beef kielbasa in mine to give it a wonderful flavor.

    Take care of yourself!

  5. Here is video of the PlumberJoe with Obama:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7673170.stm

    So old Joe here is going to pay 3% more in taxes on the amount from $250,000 up, and he says he can make $280,000. So Obama is going to tax him $900 more than the old tax rate. Typical Repuddlecan, pissing and moaning over a pittance compared to the amount they take home. Give me a business netting $280k a year and I’ll grin when I sign the check. Note that I didn’t factor in the health care credit the guy brushed off, even though that is probably far more than $900.

    This Keating connection is hilarious!

  6. Good Afternoon House of Roberts :) I agree. The GOP should have done their homework. The internet is a beautiful thing. There isn’t anything you can’t find if you dig deep enough..

    McCain just keeps digging himself into a deeper hole…

  7. “McCain just keeps digging himself into a deeper hole…”

    Freedomrebel, that reminded me, did you ever see the rest of that Dana Bash-McCain interview you posted the short clip of earlier in the week? I had the longer version link in comments, but you never responded afterward and you often do.

  8. No, House of Roberts, I didn’t. I’m sorry something came up and I wasn’t able to get back..
    Sorry, I missed it. :(

  9. I’ll try again:
    Here is the same interview starting just seconds after the Dana Bash questions I had quoted on the earlier thread:

    The sixteen second clip in the October 14th thread occurs at about 6:00 in this longer version. Watch how McCain digs himself even deeper the longer he talks.

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