The Watering Hole: September 15 – The Tank

On this date in 1916, Tanks are used for the first time in battle  (WW I – Battle of the Somme.) The first battle between tanks occurred on April 24, 1918 at Villers-Bretonneux, France. This occurred at late as it did because of the scarcity of equipment on the German side.

British Mark 5 Star Tank

British Mark V Tank

The tank was developed in WW I to overcome the tactics of trench warfare. That really did not work because of the problem or manufacturing capacity. Another fact that limited the tank’s capability was the development of special armor piercing rounds that created a spray of projectiles within the crew quarters that bounced about a few dozen times without exiting those confines. In WW II, the tank became of age. Alloys and lamination techniques yielded armor that was immune to these rounds. The bazooka became the weapon of choice to defeat those newer technologies.

Note: This is our Open Thread and you can comment freely on any subject that comes to mind.

During the North African Campaign, tanks were called “ovens” by US Armored Calvary soldiers. Salt pills and massive quantities of water were the only thing they had to survive.

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24 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: September 15 – The Tank

  1. I forgot to mention that the WW I tanks featured flank mounted cannons or howitzers. This prevented mud from jamming this armament as the weapon plodded through the trenches.

  2. Hi Walt!

    Funny you should bring up the subject of tanks, as Hugo Chavez just did a deal with Putin for a whole mess of Russian tanks and anti-aircraft missiles.

    Recently we had a fake Obama Kenyan birth certificate, and now we have fake protest rally pictures with missing buildings and the wrong flag display (full or half mast?). Pretty soon the credibility of the teabaggers will be in the negative numbers.

    American Special Forces execute a helicopter raid in Somalia against an Al Quaeda suspect. Is Somalia the next quagmire?

  3. HoR,
    I picked the subject months or weeks ago. Lets me mull over the possibilities of facts that I might include.
    Yesterday’s Luna 2 post was spur-of-the-moment as I was getting nowhere with the one I was originally going to post. As my old man used to say “Some days it’s chickens, some days, it’s feathers.” I’m back to the sack now, just popped in to take care of yesterday’s open thread.

  4. Yesterday Zooey wished me sweet dreams and this is what happened.

    There was the Yearly Zoo Convention and I was there. The problem was: We were all the avatars we use. Impossible for me to properly talk to muse, considering her long neck and my short legs. I had to prick you all in your ankles to get some attention as I was below the table and not getting any of the drinks. I punched some holes into Zooey, because being a picture, she was made of paper, I felt sorry for doing it, however.

    To all psychologists out there, what the heck does this mean? 😆

  5. I served in the 3rd Armored Division in Germany in 1968.
    Let me tell you, up close, tanks are big and scary.

  6. Recently we had a fake Obama Kenyan birth certificate, and now we have fake protest rally pictures with missing buildings and the wrong flag display (full or half mast?). Pretty soon the credibility of the teabaggers will be in the negative numbers.

    HoR, I think you are missing the point. It’s the *impression* at that instant that counts. The *impression* is of a huge march, in their mind’s and in Glenn Beck’s mind. The *impression* is that of a black Kenyan Muslim, with communism driving his black soul somehow turning America into Nazi Germany

    I looked at the young fella interviewing these people yesterday. It simply doesn’t matter to them or the media. The same Swift Boating is going on, from Clinton (both) to Gore to Kerry to Obama. The media is just letting the *impression* stay long enough to stick….

  7. Walt the tanks were used too soon, before they were really tested and in too few numbers… the Somme was going so badly, they needed anything to try break the deadlock before the rains came back and they tried the tanks.

    Funny you mention the North African campaign, my geography teacher drove Grant tanks for the 8th Army.. he said it wasn’t much fun.

  8. When I was in the Army, the tracked vehicle into which Nobody ever wanted to climb was the APC (armored personnel carrier), which looks a lot like the tank pictured here. One broad flat wall of the APC is an equally broad flat gas tank, a great target for even the worst RPG marksman. One infantryman I knew told me “I love eating barbecue, but I don’t really aspire to become barbecue.”

  9. Here’s another: “As many as a million” and no mention of the validity of the claims, the prevalence of Nazi symbolism, etc etc. The *impression*…

  10. Back, briefly, to a discussion from weeks ago about Chrome v Firefox. Chrome is not perfect and one of the most irritating “features” is its apparent tendency to log me out of any WP blog or Facebook whenever I’m not actively using the tab. Verrrrrry annoying.

    It can also have an open-ended approach to double-clicking on a paragraph (in comments), and selects everything on the page below the paragraph–along with other unfortunate mouse selection issues.

    I’m not pissed off enough to switch back to Firefox, but I’m thinking about it.

  11. gum, I haven’t experienced the log out phenomenon with Chrome. Considering the strange things happening on TP I might suspect a WP issue more than the browser.

    I’ve found the double click thing to be sort of annoying, mostly when I get in a hurry.

  12. hoodathunk, I would definitely blame WP except that it also happens with Facebook. And it happens on two work computers and my home computer.

    Eh, maybe it’s just me.

  13. gum, may we see others who finally stand for what they believe in versus what buys votes. Buy should replace the F word as the most disgusting word in our language

  14. I am so sick of pineapple which is weird because I really like pineapple, Just saying… Now if only it went better with the ridiculous amount of smoked salmon I have….

  15. It can also have an open-ended approach to double-clicking on a paragraph (in comments), and selects everything on the page below the paragraph–along with other unfortunate mouse selection issues.

    gummitch,

    Just a tip for what it’s worth. Whenever I have a problem with trying to select text on a webpage, I stop, make sure the page is clear of selected text, and then try selecting the desired text from the bottom up. This usually worked for me to keep it from selecting extra text.

    Just a tip. Good luck with Chrome. 🙂

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