Sunday Roast: Chicken!!

I promised a foodie post this weekend, so here it is.  Roast chicken is one of the best things on the planet.  My mom used to make a killer roast chicken when I was a kid, and I’ve fallen into the bad habit of buying rotisserie chicken at the grocery store.  Now that the weather has turned cooler, I won’t mind having the oven on so long — roast chicken coming up!

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87 thoughts on “Sunday Roast: Chicken!!

  1. At their inception some of the simplest things had to be ‘sold’ to the public – sometimes with explicit and lengthy ‘direction’…

    “With a General Electric Refrigerator, many of your family food problems and your perplexities about entertaining can easily be solved. The suggestions listed and the recipes which have ben tested and compiled are intended to serve as a guidebook for you…

    To many people electric refrigeration is still such a novelty that they scarcely realize the range of its possibilities. It is almost like having an Aladdin’s lamp and not knowing the right way to rub it…

    The refrigerator itself requires no attention, not even oiling, and is surprisingly easy to keep clean.

    The owning of such a refrigerator is a form of health and happiness insurance which every homemaker in America should have the privilege of enjoying.

    Most of all, I hope that you will find real joy in creating new frozen combinations and finding new uses for your General Electric Refrigerator
    Alice Bradley

    Electric Refrigerator Recipes and Menus – 1928”

  2. “Since it is kept cold electrically, it need not be near an outside door, nor placed for the convenience of the ice man. All that is necessary is a convenience outlet into which its long cord can be plugged. The most convenient place in the pantry or kitchen is the place for the General Electric Refrigerator.

    To thousands of homes it is bringing all the benefits of year ’round refrigeration – bringing them in a simpler, more economical way than they could ever be obtained before.”

    (I did say it was lengthy – remember it was a ‘brand new’ concept and homemakers had to be sold on its benefits)

  3. The early GE refrigerators lasted for what seemed like forever. Now days, we are lucky if a refrigerator lasts for 10 or 15 years. I’ve been living in my current residence for 13 years. We had all new appliances when we moved in. So far, I have replaced a dishwasher and a washing machine. The refrigerator needed repair and so did the Jenn Aire range. Never, ever buy a Jenn Aire range. They are junk. I would like to replace this range which I might do if I can scrape together enough money to buy a cheap model. We don’t want to invest too much money in this house anymore because we plan on moving in 3 years.

    2ebb – congrats on the Giants win. I had a feeling they were going to win this series. The Giants were hungrier than the Phillies. It was noticable when they came up to bat. My favorite Philly, Jayson Werth, will be a free agent next year. 😦

  4. Zooey – Thanks for the recipe. I have a large roaster that I use for baking turkeys and large chicken. It works better than my oven and it wasn’t expensive, $25.00. I like the idea of the lemons inside the chicken and I’m going to do that the next time I roast a chicken. I noticed that she had a fresh chicken from the butcher and not a “cellophane” chicken from Purdue. The difference in flavor between a fresh, free roaming, organic chicken and a Purdue chicken is significant. It may cost more, but I’ll buy the fresh chicken at the farmer’s market. We will get several meals from one chicken so it’s worth the money. And then there is the flavor… . We ordered a Heritage turkey for Thanksgiving again this year. Last year, we had one and now I can’t go back to the white turkey anymore. It was expensive but well worth the money. We figured we could splurge once a year for something as wonderful as a Heritage turkey.

  5. There is a difference in today’s refrigerators. Some have a coil on the back and some don’t. The placement of your refrigerator can affect it’s performance.

    Refrigeration systems don’t “cool”, they move heat. The coil on the back of some refrigerators is the condensing coil and is meant to disperse the heat from inside the box. When electric refrigeration became available most kitchens had 10 foot or higher ceilings. Heat from the condensing coil transfers to the cooler ambient air surrounding it, causing that air to rise, creating a convection current past the coil.

    With the advent of lower ceilings and built ins, the external coil could not dissipated heat properly and the compact condensing coil came about. This coil requires a fan to move air across it, but allows for a tight installation with little clearance from cabinets above the refrigerator.

    Dogs and cats like to lay in front of a refrigerator with a compact coil when its cold because the fan blows the heat from the condensing coil over them. The fan also pulls in pet hair and dust which will block air circulation leading to the same problem as a external coil unit with no clearance.

  6. We eat a lot of chicken, mainly because it’s relatively inexpensive and can be fixed in SO many different ways. We used to do a lot of whole chicken roasting, but then discovered a new recipe about four years ago, made some changes to it, and the rest is history. It’s simple prep, too. Simply take one regular chicken, 4-5 lbs, and with a sharp knife remove the backbone by cutting it out on each side of neck to tail. Takes a little practice, but pretty soon it becomes a simple matter of course. Remove as much visible fat as possible in the process (and it doesn’t hurt at all to remove the wishbone either — makes carving easier, but is not mandated).

    Spread in out, skin side up in an ovenproof skillet (I always use my cast iron ten incher). Sprinkle the entire skin surface with Kosher or Sea Salt, then add the finishing touch:

    1 Tbsp black peppercorns
    1 Tbsp whole allspice
    1 Tbsp dried juniper berries

    Combine the above on large cutting board and, using (the bottom of) a saucepan or skillet, crush everything by pressing down on and rotating the pan. Or, if you prefer, use a spice grinder — just don’t turn it into a fine powder, keep it coarse.

    Uniformly sprinkle the mixture atop the entire skin surface. Be generous, lift the wings and include the underarms. The entire surface should be darkened, blackish-brown.

    Roast it in a pre-heated 375 oven for about an hour and a half or until done.

    Serves four generously. For smaller servings, just make sure that each piece contains its share of crispy and spiced skin — and that unforgettable flavor!

    If there are only to be two at the table, use a Rock Cornish Game Hen, similarly butterflied and seasoned. Roasts in about an hour, maybe a little less.

  7. Chicken was the last animal “meat” that I ate, which was over 20 years ago. I cook it occassionally, when entertaining (prepared game hens for Thanksgiving 6 years ago actually). Recently, a friend made chicken potpie “soup” for me to take to another friend ~ I felt kinda bad that I didn’t flavor test it before sharing it . . .

    And I agree, Cats – OG free range is the only way to go 🙂

    • I was thinking about that yesterday, Walt, when I was reading about the cholera outbreak in Haiti. We know Coburn has held up US aid to Haiti, but I doubt most of America knows it.

      Fuck Coburn, I bet he sleeps like a baby.

  8. Whoops. This will have to wait. I see some blue sky and Ralphie needs a walk. It’s been pouring and blowing for hours, so sleeping until 8:30 turns out to be a Good Thing in more ways than one.

  9. I had to get a nap in order to be awake for the F1 race in Korea, which is the first race at a brand new facility. When the pre-race started it was raining heavily, requiring the race be delayed, even though the cars do race in wet conditions. Jenson Button said over his radio that he couldn’t see his own front tires, during the first three laps behind the safety car.

    Finally, the organizers decided to send the cars back to the track, again behind the safety car. They did fourteen more laps before conditions improved enough to actually start racing. I had expected to be back in bed by three, but it was almost five, so I missed the shows this morning. I may try to watch Meet the Press on MSNBC at 1pm. I want to see if they let Rachel talk today.

  10. How does that guy sleep at night?

    By concluding that those who suffer and die from cholera were destined to do so because they are not of “God’s Chosen.”

    God’s Chosen have the individual wealth to avoid such diseases, bestowed upon them by God. Therefore this is just God’s way of purging the Earth of outcasts.

  11. BnF you hit the nail on the head. Hell, these assholes don’t give a shit about the poor in America why would they care about people in Haiti?

  12. Before y’all get too worked up over Coburn, check this out:
    Jon Stewart Gave Senator Coburn a Bum Rap on Haiti Aid

    This Common Dreams article links to an article FUNDING: Unravelling the conundrum of US aid to Haiti, that seems to contradict these allegations, about Coburn. He’s almost always guilty of these holds, but in this case, it would seem he’s not the SOB here. Think Progress based their piece on an AP report, which was either misleading or mistaken. The money Coburn is holding up is next years’ aid, $500 million, which hasn’t been passed yet. He wants that spending to be offset by cuts elsewhere.

    If you will look at the bottom of the TP link that Walt provides, you will see an update, using a story dated October 18th, nearly three weeks after the original by Zaid Jilani. The author, Josh Rogin, says basically the same thing as Robert Naiman in my link above. What Zaid should have done was publish the update in a current post after the 18th, then link that to the original article. He covered his ass, but in a kind of sneaky way.

    Of course, if voters think Coburn is holding up aid for Haiti, and it helps the Dems, anywhere, it’s still a pittance of the misinformation being spread by the Republicans.

  13. gummitch,

    Wayne A. Schneider
    October 22, 2010 at 2:38 pm asked its members (I’m one) to submit pictures of themselves holding signs that say various things. The pictures are being used in a TV ad in support of John Hall. My picture got picked to be in it. I’m going to be on the TV machine (for about a second and a half.)

    I’m the guy near the end holding the sign that says “Not on our side”.

  14. Cats, the Phils were a worthy adversary.
    Out here the theme this season: being a Giant’s fan is torture! Nail biting 101 was offered and or learned on the job…
    the Philly’s have tasted the big win recently now it’s time for the G’s.
    It was a great game.

  15. Also on roast chicken, a ridiculously simple approach (starts about 5:45). This was from an episode of No Reservations dealing with techniques, including “how to grill a steak”, the perfect burger, and beef bourguignon.

  16. Cats, I ‘m sorry that your team didn’t win, but I’m not sorry the Phillies lost. Nothing personal, strictly Mets-fan-based. 🙂

    I can’t wait to see what our future GM and manager do for next year’s Mets.

  17. The Giants are the most unlikely looking league champions imaginable. They’re either huge (Sandoval is 245? Bwahaha. Then I must be 150), too young, too old, or too beard-y. And yet, there they are, on the way to the World Series.

    First game is not to be missed: Cliff Lee v Tim Lincecum.

  18. “Fear the Beard” Z –

    We so much enjoy being ‘different’, you know that.

    As for the “misfits” – yes, the silly ass Tim McCarver’s of this world kept up with the innuendo that such a ‘rag tag’ team was unlikely to even make the playoffs.
    We couldn’t find the portable radio for the game – but my nephew and I couldn’t stand Tim McCarver’s prattling and muted the audio on the t.v. machine!

  19. My last post, for today, on Los Gigantes de San Francisco

    John Shea summed it up very well:

    Never mind the rally thongs. Forget the fake beards. Pooh-pooh the panda caps. Stop the torture talk.

    No gimmicks required anymore. Who needs publicity stunts when you’re good enough to go to the World Series?

    The Giants are good enough.

    All along, they said they needed to beat the best to be the best.

    Today, the best is outfitted in black and orange

  20. Zooey, simply because a dragonfly doesn’t grow a beard – no need for you to be so ‘snooty’ and condescending =8>

    (a soft beard is so…, so…, well you get idea…)

  21. Zooey, I think that’s one of the better episodes of No Reservations. Some parts are more useful than others, obviously. For instance, how to grill a steak: first, get yourself a commercial-grade, high pressure gas stove with a grill, then find a 12-pound steak…

    And the burger guy is wrong: American cheese sucks.

      • BTW, today is my dad’s 73rd birthday. Happy Birthday, dad!!

        He’s spending his birthday in Ohio with an old school friend (female) who was born about 2 hours before him. They’re talking about “a more permanent arrangement.” Not sure how I feel about that, but it’s not up to me.

        Also, he’s in the hospital with an infection and congestive heart failure. Seems they have it under control, and he’ll go to my sister’s place in Texas when he’s released.

        Things are just a laugh a minute in my family…

  22. Wayne and Jane rock the vote 🙂

    Let’s all do our part. Can’t let the crazies get elected otherwise they will create a Government established religion and we will all have to carry our “religion” cards with us. Christine O’Donnell claims that there is no separation of church and state. Sharon Angle, Toomey and that super nut case from Alaska, Miller, will all agree to a National Religion.

    So let’s all help to GOTV. Those that have already voted, the States that can only vote on Nov 2 could use some help.

  23. Zooey, oh my – is there family in Ohio – or just the ‘friend’? That has to be depressing – getting ill away from home. How long has he been in hospital?
    Is the infection related or unrelated to the cardiac troubles?

    My thoughts are with you –

    • Ebb, he grew up there, but there’s no more family there. He’s been in the hospital for a couple days, waiting for the cultures on the infection and filling him full of Lasix to relieve the congestive heart failure. The CHF has been going on for a number of years, the infection is more recent. They are not related, but could one could aggravate the other.

      My sis in TX is an RN. He’ll be in good hands. Thanks, ebb.

  24. gummitch, Do you have a choice of going to a precinct to vote or is the entire state of Oregon vote by mail?

    CA you have a choice – I do vote by mail. My arrows were connected to No on 23. No for Fiorina and definitely no for the witless one.

  25. Funny thing down here is I keep hearing that Charlie Crist has a beard, but he always appears clean shaven to me!!

    Bet if you turned him upside down…

    (“brain bleach. get yer brain bleach here”)

  26. We use a Spanek vertical roaster.

    Lemons, onions, herb de provence (or your own combination of such). Olive oil.
    Either place the cut lemons and quartered onion into the cavity, before standing it on the roaster, or place slices of lemons and onions between the skin and flesh.
    Very lightly oil chicken –
    Sprinkle herb de provence. Can be cooked over bbq grill or in the oven.

    [The Spanek seasonings are high quality and very tasty – but much too costly for this household. So we make our own combination of seasonings.]

  27. Oregon is 100% vote by mail. I think it’s been that way for more than a decade. The closest thing we have to precinct voting is the ability to drop the ballot off at county offices. Here in Multnomah County, that includes public libraries.

  28. One has to love mother nature providing a 80 degree plus temperature on October 24th and then, to find butterflies here. Ahhhhhh, almost heaven.

    Oh, Hello Zoooooo Eee. 🙂 wink, wink!

  29. Can’ quite capture the cadence but ‘bradycardia’, parasitic nematode, at TP may just be fake ‘dr’.
    It is a known troll – just can’t quite place it at the moment.

  30. oooo, the dragonfly and butterfly are winking at each other.
    I’ll leave you two to converse.

    The grey, rainy day beckons…I need to be out of doors amongst the real live critters! (no offense meant to the creatures who inhabit the virtual Zoo)

  31. Zooey

    I’m g0ing to the Goodwill store tomorrow to buy back my kilts that I gave away Friday.

    I learned the hard way not to wear a kilt when bicycling.

    My sister came by and used my computer to play with her Facebook page. Then I looked around Facebook for the first time and was amazed at the things I saw there! 🙂

    I hear the sound of music…..there’s something in the air…..

    ebb are you smoking again?

  32. Given that I’m in the process of plowing my own furrow in the book publishing world, I found this d-kos diary most interesting.

    I’ve long wondered why anyone in their right mind would EVER buy a book “written” by a political hack to begin with, but my astonishment at the associated cash flow dynamic knows no bounds! Literally millions for tripe that the “author” never wrote, and in most cases couldn’t write if someone held a gun to her-his head.

    American money-politics gets more bizarre with every passing year, and worse, it invariably demeans the country it supposedly represents. Surely we must be the global laughing stock by now, or, if not, wait till November 9th when Bush’s “book” comes out! Of course, he only had a seven million dollar deal on it, so he’s not yet talking about real money. Gotta leave that realm to Sarah Palin when her second “book” hits the shelves.

    Question of the day: did Shakespeare come out as well as Palin and/or Bush, cash-wise? My guess is no, prolly not. But if Shakes was writing in America today, he’d undoubtedly have to find the time to do so after his twelve-hour daily life-supporting shift at McDonald’s. Which is, when you think about it, where Bush and Palin belong. Hmmm.

    Screwy world.

  33. So as not to miss the topic entirely, here is one of my favorite chicken recipes, from Bruce Cost. Very easy preparation that results in a beautiful crispy golden chicken. Serve it with plain rice and a vegetable.

    Simple Roast Chicken w/Sichuan Peppercorns

    1-1/2 tsp Sichuan peppercorns
    1 whole chicken (4 pounds-ish)
    1 Tb dark soy sauce
    1 tsp freshly ground black pepper
    1-1/2 tsp coarse salt
    1/4 cup finely chopped coriander leaves (cilantro)

    Toast the peppercorns in a dry skillet until they smoke, then grind to coarse powder

    Cut out the backbone so you can flatten the chicken out. Rub all over with soy sauce, sprinkle with peppers and salt. Allow to sit for one hour (this is important). Preheat oven to 450F.

    Place chicken, skin side up, on broiler pan and roast for 20 minutes. Reduce heat to 325F and cook for another 30 minutes. Remove from oven, sprinkle with cilantro and rest for 10 minutes. Cut it up Chinese-style into about 12 pieces. Eat ’em up.

  34. I like three kinds of chicken: fried chicken tenders from Star Market’s hot bar, fried chicken tenders from Tenders, a local restaurant, and fried chicken tenders from Frizzles, a chain restaurant that took over all the Dairy Queen locations except one. I’ll eat many other kinds of chicken, I just like those best.

    60 Minutes did three very good segments tonight. The first was on the 99ers, the middle segment was on anthropologist Jane Goodall, and the third was about the Top Gear show on BBC. The Top Gear segment was hilarious!

  35. uuuh, pachy – coincidence or what? Did you happen to notice the Google pop up ads at the bottom of that vid?
    “Russian girl marriage”
    “Argentina women marriage”

  36. house, I’ll catch 60 min. when it’s up on line.
    Was the 99er segment helpful or just giving the run down on the down and out after time runs out.
    (although I didn’t get 99 week extension I couldn’t collect anymore than the six months left for me. Of course not being able to find full-time employment doesn’t help to accumulate any additional time)

    Thanks for keeping us informed about the Sunday shows, I for one really am appreciative you’re so diligent!
    (don’t you wear a beard and shoulder length hair?)

  37. The 99er segment was a town hall Q&A to show how many of the unemployed have college degrees. I just started tier three, which is thirteen weeks, which will top out at 59 weeks for me. I went to our career center to ask if there was a tier three, and no one there could confirm or deny if Alabama had one. I filed my last week of tier two, then checked my benefit schedule, and found my next tier was added to it.

    I wear a Don Johnson Miami Vice stubble, which I trim into a goatee for formal occasions. I understand Thom Hartmann does his beard about the same way. He ends up at a lot more formal functions than I do. My hair is dark, almost black, and shoulder length.

  38. There are so many empty office buildings it is very sad. We can’t go back to agriculture – most of that land has those empty office buildings sitting on them.

    On the way out to the National Wildlife Refuge – we go out 1st St and it is such a very small percentage that are fully occupied. Nearly every building complex has For Lease.

    If MS purchases Adobe – we are screwed – since Adobe IS the downtown.

  39. Pachy, against my nature but here ya go (handing a eco-friendly butterfly net)
    Remember: catch and release. Things with wings are meant to fly free.

  40. House, I’m familiar with that Pantry. There are many more ‘soup kitchens’ run out of small churches.
    Times are difficult. A few of the empty building they showed, in the beginning are downtown.
    San Jose is where I live – we’ve topped one million citizens.

  41. wear a Don Johnson Miami Vice stubble, which I trim into a goatee for formal occasions. I understand Thom Hartmann does his beard about the same way. He ends up at a lot more formal functions than I do. My hair is dark, almost black, and shoulder length.

    oooo weee baby! I’ll be dreaming sweet dreams tonight! grrrr.

  42. Eco-friendly butterfly net? It must have holes in it.

    ;> We things with wings look out for each other. I’ve got your back,sister ~!~ <;

  43. I just saw a PBS Nature program on crows. Damn, they are some smart birds.

    They have up to 250 different calls in two distinct dialects, one dialect used in public and one among family. Adults mate for life and watch over young for up to 5 years!

    Scientists theorize being omnivores is what makes them smart.

    Butterflies are beautiful as well as smart. 🙂

  44. pachy, odd that you’d bring up crows.
    The corvids were the only avian life out cavorting under the grey, rainy sky. The crows were busy cracking open the last of the walnuts on a Black Walnut tree.
    Some were gathered around food that was squashed on the road!

    The Ravens were very vocal just ‘jumping’ from branch to branch on some sycamores.

  45. Oh, and the ‘crows know’ as we like to say:

    There’s a very tall Redwood, at my old house, that a resident Cooper’s took turns with a Red Tailed Hawk using as a ‘look out for food’ – meaning songbirds at the feeders.

    The crows would always ‘tell’ on the raptor that was attempting to hide in the tree. the crows would dive-bomb at the raptor – all the while calling.

    • No wonder we have so many ravens around here — the babies hang out for 5 years!

      I’ve been trying to watch a movie on Netflix, and the damn internet keeps cutting out or slowing down. Grrrrrrrrrr!!!

  46. oooo, House , this song popped into mind the moment I read about your sexy – stubble and long hair- yeowww –
    If only this apartment had a chimney – I’d wait by it for you any time ; > (on second thought – here’s the key).

  47. “Dammit, I give up. 2.5 hours to watch 1.5 hours of a 2 hour movie is too frustrating.”

    Kind of loses continuity doesn’t it?!
    Is it your computer or the transmission of the movie?
    Can you somehow watch it at a later date?

  48. Coconut read

    3 cups flour
    3/4 cup sugar
    4 teaspoons baking powder
    1 teaspoon salt
    1/2 teaspoon cinnamon
    Dash Nutmeg
    1 1/3 cups shredded coconut
    1 1/2 cups milk
    1 egg
    2 tablespoons vegetable oil
    1 teaspoon vanilla extract

    Preheat the oven to 350 degrees.
    Combine flour, sugar, baking powder, salt, cinnamon, nutmeg and coconut in a large bowl.

    In separate bowl, beat milk, egg, oil and vanilla together until well blended.

    Add liquid ingredients to dry ones and stir to blend. Do not over mix. Pour batter into a 9-by-5-by-3 inch loaf pan. Bake for about 1 hour or until a cake tester inserted into the center of the cke comes out clean.

    Cool 10 min. in the pan, then invert the bread onto a cake rack to cool completely. Makes 1 loaf.
    serves 10.

  49. Chocolate-Cheesecake Brownies

    1/2 cup butter or margarine
    3 ounces unsweetened chocolate
    2 eggs
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    1 cup granulated cane sugar
    1/2 cup all-purpose flour

    8 ounces cream cheese, softened
    1/2 cup granulated cane sugar
    2 eggs
    1/4 cup all purpose flour
    1/4 cup water
    1 teaspoon vanilla

    Chocolate Layer: Heat oven to 325 degrees F. Grease an 8-inch square baking pan. Melt butter in small saucepan; remove from heat and add chocolate. Let stand, stirring several times, until chocolate is melted. With electric mixer, beat eggs and salt until frothy. Gradually add sugar, beating about 2 minutes until pale yellow and thick. Stir in chocolate mixture, then flour, mixing to blend. Scrape batter evenly into prepared pan.

    Cheesecake Layer: With electric mixer, beat cream cheese, sugar and eggs until smooth. Blend in flour, then water and vanilla. Pour cheesecake mixture over brownie base.
    Bake 30 – 40 minutes until top is set but not browned. A pick inserted in the center will come out slightly sticky. (Don’t over-bake, or brownies will be dry). Remove to a rack to cool completely. Cut into 2-inch squares.

    Makes 16 brownies.

    (from C&H sugar)

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