Watering Hole – November 22, 2010 – Point of View

Yes, it’s Monday, again.  This week is not a particularly happy week for turkeys.

The middle class and the poor can look at life as a glass half full or a glass half empty.  The rich look at life as a glass spilling over into their own private ocean.

Poverty tells many stories.  The truth is all in one’s point of view.

This is our open thread.  What’s your point of view?  Pick a topic and Speak Up!

53 thoughts on “Watering Hole – November 22, 2010 – Point of View

  1. Good post Cats, and a timely one for me as I just finished the morning paper. Loudon County VA has the highest median income in the nation. This year a local food pantry distributed their first ever Thanksgiving meal, to 2,000 families! The need is great everywhere, and about to become greater as unemployment benefits run out. I’m off to buy my forgotten pecans, reckon I’d best do some shopping for others if I expect to enjoy my turkey.

  2. I don’t remember the Kennedy assassination as I was too young, but my husband does, especially since it happened on his birthday. I do think something in the nation’s psyche was killed that day as well. I had hopes that maybe we might find that something again when Obama was inaugurated, but that hasn’t seemed to work out as we had hoped. 😦

  3. Appropriate, CheeseFlap. Reminds me of Kennedy’s statement:

    “If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.”
    ~John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Inaugural address, January, 1960

  4. Text Message from Zooey at the Oregon Coast:

    “I’ve been up since dawn, listening to the wind howl and watching the tide come in. The seagulls are riding the wind and the shore birds are playing tag with the waves. Several long lines of pelicans have flown by, barely above the waves. Then something I’ve never seen in my life—a man walking a pig down the beach! Awesome! Hoping for that snow tomorrow!”

  5. Zooey may get snow tonight, which is magical at the beach. After that, it’s going to be much warmer there than here in Portland. I can’t remember the last time we had lows in the teens in November.

    Haven’t seen any pigs being walked, however.

  6. must be all those vicious, evil, filthy immigrants:

    by Daniel Borunda \ El Paso Times
    Posted: 11/22/2010 12:00:00 AM MST

    Despite being located across the border from one of the deadliest cities in the world, El Paso is the safest large city in the United States, according to rankings released Sunday.

    Though the city has been ranked in the top three each year since 1997, this is the first time El Paso has taken the top spot for having the lowest crime rate among cities of more than 500,000 population in the annual rankings by CQ Press, a publishing firm based in Washington, D.C.

    Government leaders, law enforcement officials and residents were thrilled with the new ranking.

  7. And here I thought when a butterfly goes to the beach on a break from classes that she’d lay on the beach in a bikinis, not sit around drinking who knows what to the point she sees a pig being walked!!

    Its 78 here today with no snow in the forecast. 🙂

  8. House, aren’t you as far from the beach as one can get in Alabama? ; >

    In the Valley of Heart’s Delight it is currently 50 degrees and cloudy – so there will be no sun bathing today.

  9. Just looked at the extended forecast – seems we’ll be getting the PNW weather – lows of 26 degrees. Unheard of here – we’re not prepared for such things.
    Cats it appears your weather has migrated west!

  10. From The Other 98%:

    “We hear the George W. Bush Presidential Library will be so big that it’s going to have two wings.

    Marvel and DC.”

  11. 2ebb, I’m only 18 miles from being as far from the beach as possible!

    Today’s the last pretty day this week. Rain starts tomorrow until the cold front gets here on Turkey Day.

  12. Hello all. Worst possible weather here right now… a bout of freezing rain to get everything nice and slick, to be followed by sn0w. 😦

    Spent the weekend working on a “music” photograph for a photo club I joined at work. Given the cold weather, and the fact that we don’t currently have any musical instruments in the house, I was relegated to improvising. I have some old 45’s (when they came in cardboard sleeves like albums did), and decided to make a collage. I moved the zoom during the 6-second exposure and (if I do say so myself), the result was very entertaining. And it’s not photoshopped. 🙂

    Some of you might recognize some of the artists from the 45-sleeves as well.


  13. Cats, Seattle is getting an unusual snow fall (2-4 inches) today, although their low temps over the next few days appear to be higher than ours. I just hope we don’t get a lot of ice. Snow is one thing, but black ice or ice-encrusted snow–no thanks.

  14. Like zxbe, we are having interesting weather. Right now we are having thunderstorms with lightning and everything. Temps tonight are supposed to be in the teens. I wonder where I put my ice skates?

  15. zxbe, that is an amazing array – and wonderful photo. You certainly have a grand eye for the art form of photography~!~
    You can’t be old enough to have started collecting all those 45s as a child…are you?

  16. It’s in the 60’s here with rain coming, but I just took the pumkin roll out of the oven so at least it smells like Thanksgiving.

  17. Thank ebb. 🙂

    I’m certainly old enough to remember 45’s, but those in the picture do predate me (or came out when I was very little).

    That was a collection that belonged to a friends father. He was selling them in a garage sell about 30 years ago, and I wanted to buy them. He wouldn’t hear of it, and gave it the collection to me. Lots of Les Elgart, Benny Goodman, Les Brown (including an autographed copy from Les), and a host of others.

    I do love old music, though, and listen to a lot of it through Rhapsody and Pandora.

  18. Earlier this year, the Fake Doctor over at TP blathered on about the incredible economy in Ireland, achieved by lowering taxes (according to Motoblow). I can’t wait for another relevant thread.

    After fighting it off for as long as it could, Ireland agreed to request financial assistance from the European Union Sunday. A bailout package from the EU and the IMF could total from 80 billion euros to 100 billion euros ($109-$136 billion). After initial optimism, early rallies turned to losses in European bourses Monday as traders pondered the impact of Ireland’s uncertain financial future, and the possible risk of contagion.

    So, the “socialist” nations of Europe are being asked to bail out the lower-taxes Irish economy. I’m pretty sure we’re not going to see a retraction from Moto. Or any acknowledgment of the news.

  19. Like the tee shirts…. “Better Dead Than Fed”. Only thing is, I would add a picture of a hungry child. It gives me an idea 🙂 I like this one, too, “Social Security is Socialism”. The tea party would love these.

  20. Very cool photo, zxbe!

    Weather here is sunny but very cool–down into the mid 30s overnight and highs only into the 60s. We just had some rain over the weekend so the mountains have a dusting of snow. Very pretty and just in time for the holiday!

  21. We can always try an experiment. Lets take a state and set it up as a sort of petri dish to test all the nifty ideas the Rbaggers want to try. Texas seems like a good choice. Just isolate Texas, eliminate federal regulations and let them do their best to build the libertarian Utopia.

  22. Ohhhh – Hooda that is an excellent suggestion. (those, who now live in TX, and lean blue can seek refuge in CA or other progressive states).

    Not only eliminate federal regulations but federal money – that would include SS.
    And no seed money – let the libertarians literally lift themselves up by the bootstraps!

    Now that would be a ‘reality show’ worth watching!

    • I’ve been in my car most of the morning and was listening to Thom Hartmann. He spent the 3rd hour of his program discussing what really happened to Kennedy along with his guest author Lamar Waldron, JFK Historian & co-author (with Thom Hartmann) of “Ultimate Sacrifice” and “Legacy of Secrecy”. His website: http://www.legacyofsecrecy.com. Fascinating discussion. A lot of surprises for me.. If you are able to download the podcast, it is seriously worth listening to.

  23. Americans are the most gullible chumps on the planet. Your basic 4 year old in any given 3rd world country is harder to fool.

  24. The Shock Doctrine, the documentary based on Naomi Klein’s book, is on the Sundance channel in a few minutes. I just read about this over at C&L. It is also scheduled tomorrow at 2:25pm eastern, and Friday at 10:10 am.

  25. Cats, go to the Hartmann Podcasts link to the White Rose Society above and bookmark it for a week or so from now when the podcast is available. I know that’s slow, but it is free. It also might show up on Youtube if somebody puts it up there. I checked the Thom Hartmann website but the sample video hasn’t been changed yet. It could show up there too.

  26. Looks more like the TP regulars are in the taking-the-troll-bait mode tonight. I counted 151 mentions of ‘wheninthecourse’, which are comments and responses, combined. It takes two to tango.

  27. Miller in AK has filed suit for a judicial ruling on the senate vote. It seems that he is going after any straw he can find to disenfranchise AK voters. Even if he wins every challenge, he still falls 2,169 votes short of Murkowski (sp?).

    While I would hate to see any one with an R after their name win a place in the Senate, the thought of Miller over Murkowski provides the sole exception.

  28. The most striking, sad part of the video (besides it having to be made because of poverty) is at the end when the little girl totally dashes the boys morale by calling him a liar.
    We get the feeling the mother has made poverty into a ‘positive’/game to help the family get through the feelings of ‘inadequacies’ she has about being able to provide.
    Imagination can get us through some very difficult times.

  29. SKorea: NKorea Bombarding Populated Island
    Smoke Seen Rising From Island

    South Korea says it has scrambled F-16 fighter jets and returned fire after North Korea shot dozens of rounds of artillery onto a populated South Korean island near the countries’ western border.

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