The Watering Hole: November 27 – Life Support

Granddaughter's Winter Plantings
Photo by WaltTheMan

Here in northern Florida, traditional Summer plants are getting a bit piqued. These are two of the impatiens that Granddaughter planted as seeds when she was here in February on my Prius. They were a bit lustier just a month ago but are now showing the ravages of time. Bringing them indoors would do nothing to improve their lot as the shortening day is also sapping their existence. This is much like human existence, as special support (warmer days) has extended their time on Earth.

This is our Open Thread. Please feel free to add your thoughts on this, or any other topic that comes to mind.

114 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: November 27 – Life Support

  1. What a grand game of ‘Whack-a-Troll’ by the Zoo gang – TP hasn’t experienced that for quite sometime.
    Wayne and Shayne in rare, fine form.
    dbadass, as usual has the grebe’s number.
    frugal – took an extra helping of feisty for breakfast – way to go frugal.
    Hooda getting some great barbs in…

  2. frugal, I am using your pemnic powder on the standing rib roast today but in an indirect way. Too many participants have an aversion to snap so I decided to get a tad creative. The roast is cooking on the grill. Its a big grill and the charcoal (with wood chips for smoke) are on both ends. In the middle is a big aluminum pan filled with a bottle of dago red, olive oil, chopped garlic, sliced onions and about a 1/4 cup of your magic powder.

    I have to carry a drool spool when I go tend the grill.

  3. oooo, ahhhhh , the aroma is wafting westward – that is some goings-on in WI!

    We’ll require a full report on how it all turned out~!~

  4. Hooda, are you imbibing in some of that ‘cooking sherry’/or whatever ‘enhanced’ beverage of choice is today?
    You are on fire over at TP.

  5. ebb, I only indulge in two intoxicants. Corona with lime for social occassions, coffee with Bushmills for inspiration. Whacking trolls requires neither but it is more fun with Corona.

    Frugal, I’ll let you know but a 19″ Weber is one of the best investments anyone can make.

  6. coffee with Bushmills

    My Gran’s ‘medicine’! although if I recall her ‘medicine bottle’ may have read “Jameson”.

  7. ok, frugal. The red wine/pemnic pan for juice worked. Just a hint of spice in the roast. For a more receptive crowd I would have made a paste with a pureed bulb of garlic, a pureed sweet onion and a 1/4 cup of pemnic. Slathered the roast and let it sit overnight to learn to commune with the spice gods.

    Other than that, it was delicious. An 8 lb roast, rare to medium rare in the center. The only thing I wish I had added to the juice pan was some sliced apples or pears.

  8. Zooey, I read yours, Waynes, and Gummitchs slander attack on me the other day.

    Nice stuff.

    I’m left to muse on the character of a bunch of people, who spend their days obsessing and insulting someone who isn’t even there.

    : |

    Your real courageous folks, indeed.

  9. Oh no problem hood….I’m sure my one little comment there won’t stand.

    I’ve grown used to the totalitarian mentality of this little clique here, and I don’t plan on lingering.

    Just wanted to commend you on your ability to be obsessed with an individual to the point of slandering him when he’s not even around, …simply because not one of you has the mental capacity to do so one on one.

    oh and “bnh bye” back atcha…

  10. Question: if pumpkin wasn’t even around, how did he read about the so-called “slandering”? (Ignoring the obvious fact that he hasn’t a clue what the word “slander” means.)

    Oh, never mind …

  11. Hello! Gary – are you back home or still enjoying the coast?

    Speaking of the coast – no way ‘Zooey’ could have ‘slandered’ that parasitic nematode – she’s been away from a keyboard for over a week.

  12. Back in Prescott; returned today with some thought of avoiding the worst of the traffic. Since I ate an enormous brunch before leaving, I not only did not stop for food along the way I’m unlike to do more than nibble some chips and salsa this evening.

    I think the Serial Liar Fake Dr. Hunt, Engineer Esq. was referring to snark that had been posted some time ago, which makes his puling about other people’s obsessions more than a tad hypocritical.

  13. Brilliant…just brilliant.

    The comments were made on October 27th. I found them by googling my handle, Doc Shabbit.

    Try it. Comes right too your insults and behind my back backbiting, lies and false accusations.

    And Zooey?

    Don’t let all your followers here muddy my comments with their venom, and cowardly backbiting spite.

    I feel the same way I felt about you when we first started talking, which is I respect you enough to “give you a wide berth”, as you said about me.

    I just happened to google my name tonight and Waynes, Gummitchs and your little behind my back attack came up on the first page.

    All I can really say, is I’m surprised at you.

    I really thought YOU had more class than that.

    And that’s all I have to say about that.

    • Thanks, Gary. 🙂

      Hi, Bart. Don’t know what you’re talking about, but I doubt I’ve ever Googled myself…to each his own.

      I always knew you were smarter than Mr Pee, and getting around the ban proves it. I guess.

  14. oh, it’s that ‘doc’…

    I’m not certain what the Focker fcuker is writing about but if he wants to ‘seem’ intelligent then this should help him with English usage and spelling.
    YOUR/YOU’RE


  15. Hi, Bart. Don’t know what you’re talking about, but I doubt I’ve ever Googled myself…to each his own.

    I always knew you were smarter than Mr Pee, and getting around the ban proves it. I guess.

    Hi Zooey.

    I think you do know what I’m talking about, but if not here’s the link.

    https://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/the-watering-hole-%E2%80%93-wednesday-10-20-2010-hump-day-romans-13/

    As for googling myself, it was to find a comment someone in TP was talking about.

    As for “getting around the ban”, I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I just clicked the link, and came here.

    If you’re saying I’m banned from here though, then excuse me, I’ll step out and if you wish to respond further then I guess you can do it in TP. I won’t stay obviously if I’m banned.

    Not that I planned on staying anyway, since, let us say, I’m not the most popular singer in the chorus.

    See you around,

    Bart

  16. pachy has been pining. I tried posting the Butterfly Ball in hopes of assisting but that had done nothing but
    now that you are home…life may be perfect again for the dragonfly~!~

  17. Then what is this “ban” you are talking about my “getting around”?

    I clicked the link to your blog.

    What “ban”?

  18. I’m losing count: is that now 3 or 4 times that Lord Fapper has declared that he is leaving now?

    Could someone give the poor darling a baseball glove so that he could have something to take and actually leave?

  19. First of “Gary”, no ones talking to you.

    Zooey is talking to me, and I’m responding to her, so you can kiss my ass.

  20. Never said anything about not liking it.

    In fact I think I told your cuckold there to pucker up and kiss my ass.

    I like having my ass kissed.

    ttyl

  21. Lord Fapper pules:

    First of “Gary”, no ones talking to you.

    First OFF, Lord Fapper, it is first “off”.

    Secondly, you just did, thus proving your grammatically dupious spew to be true.

    Congratulations.

  22. Zooey

    Forget old Bart, he sounds like an old poopy. Plus he ain’t got the wings to flutter with a butterfly.

    Did you make any dragonflies in the snow?

    • Pachy, I will endeavor to make dragonflies in the snow — I’ll even take a picture and post it, if it looks anything similar to a dragonfly. 😀

      The snow may actually be too deep right now. 😐

  23. “Gary, are you my cuckold?”

    You’ll have to ask Lord Fapper that, he’s the one simply making this stuff up out of the cognitive vacuum that defines his world in his Mommy’s basement. Myself, I rather imagine at least a couple of events would have to precede my being yours or anyone else’s cuckold. But there’s me fretting about what words actually mean again.

    Where are we, now? Four? Five times that Lord Fapper has proudly declared himself to good to be sullied with the likes of us and that he is leaving? Or is it unfair to interpret “TTFY” as anything other than, “until my next whimpering post”?

    • Gary,

      Apparently, we’ve already had the mad, passionate relationship; you’ve disappointed me horribly or you’ve proved not to be “into me”; but all the same, I have the power to make you conform to my will by the sheer force of my being and presence — to defend my honor against the mighty wit of Bart.

      Okay…

  24. Well, that was different. Focker, eh? Before my time, although I do occasionally wander past Doc Shabbit.

    Too bad it’s not Fokker. That would remind me of an old war joke, about the Norwegian pilot who landed in Britain after Hitler invaded Norway. During the debriefing, someone asked him if he encountered any German aircraft on his way from Norway. He said, “Yeah, I seen four o’ dem Fokkers and shot em all down!” The Brit debriefer said, “Germans don’t fly Fokkers anymore, they’re flying Messerschmitts now.” The Norwegian grinned and said, “Ya, dem Fokkers Vas flyin’ Messerschmitts!”

    Sorry ’bout that. Blame my Minnesota roots, Scandinavian humor.

  25. Zooey, a Dragonfly that can bake pies ~!~ Grab ‘im while you can… (figuratively or course – the Blue Dart thinks in literal terms so I must be very, very clear. oh, who am I kidding he’d like nothing better than to be ‘grabbed’ by you Period. End of Sentence. Full Stop.

  26. Where are we, now? Four? Five times that Lord Fapper has proudly declared himself to good to be sullied with the likes of us and that he is leaving?

    I never said anything of the sort.

    Apparently you’re a lying little cuckold.

    But feel free to produce the comment where I said anything about being “too good to be sullied with the likes” of anyone.

    In fact, I said wasn’t too popular which is why I wasn’t planning on lingering.

    The complete OPPOSITE, of your claim.

    Which would make your claim, a lie.

    : |

    But feel free to produce the comment,…. if you can.

  27. For example:

    I’ve grown used to the totalitarian mentality of this little clique here, and I don’t plan on lingering.

    Don’t let all your followers here muddy my comments with their venom, and cowardly backbiting spite.

    Not that I planned on staying anyway, since, let us say, I’m not the most popular singer in the chorus.

    I thought you weren’t talking to me, or was it that “no one” was talking to me, and so you are?

  28. Zooey permalink
    November 27, 2010 7:49 pm

    In fact, I said wasn’t too popular which is why I wasn’t planning on lingering.

    And thanks for posting the comment, which proves I didn’t say anything even remotely close to what your cuckold claimed I said.

  29. Gary Herstein permalink
    November 27, 2010 7:54 pm

    For example:

    I’ve grown used to the totalitarian mentality of this little clique here, and I don’t plan on lingering.

    Don’t let all your followers here muddy my comments with their venom, and cowardly backbiting spite.

    Not that I planned on staying anyway, since, let us say, I’m not the most popular singer in the chorus.

    I thought you weren’t talking to me, or was it that “no one” was talking to me, and so you are?

    Not one of those comments, say anything even remotely to what you claimed I said.

    Care to try again?

  30. Gary Herstein permalink
    November 27, 2010 7:55 pm

    So, in other words, when you repeatedly declared that you were leaving, were those overt lies or just evidence of your incomparable stupidity?

    Again, you’re the one talking to me, invoking a response.

    seems if you really wanted me to leave….you’d stop talking to me.

  31. Zooey permalink
    November 27, 2010 7:58 pm

    Sorry Bart, that only proves circular reasoning — not anything my newest cuckold may have said.

    Nice try.

    uhhh, no.

    Unless you have a comment that says “I’m leaving right now and not responding to anyone who talks to or about me”, then no.

    That would make yours the “circular reasoning”.

    I said was leaving.

    I didn’t say I wouldn’t respond to asshole comments to or about me.

  32. Zooey, the California Central Coast was too cool for your cousins to be flying.
    The Monarchs don’t like it below 60 degrees so they just ‘hung out’ in the trees!
    The weather was crystal clear in Santa Cruz – a most gorgeous day to visit humans, sea creatures and things with wings~!~

  33. Fapper struggles with the whole word thing, which makes explaining words to him a bit useless.

    I gather Mommy came in with a whole case of Redbull, eh Fapper? ‘Cause the ranting infantilism just keeps ratcheting up another notch. I mean, if you’re really that incapable of grasping simple English sentences — especially when you yourself are guilty of typing them — then maybe you should turn your attention to something you might actually achieve some success with, provided you struggle and concentrate.

    You know, like mastering the “Big Boy” panties mommy got you.

    Because clearly someone as grotesquely stupid as yourself is a complete waste of effort in anything that involves language or cognition.

    Tell us again how you’re leaving, since that’s so convincing.

  34. Zooey, if you want me to leave, then just ask me to leave.

    Geesh….after almost 6 years you’d think we’d have a little better repertoire than this.

    • Bart, you’ll do whatever you want to do — like always. If you need me to ask you to leave, I guess I can do that. Otherwise, whatever.

      If you have a point, maybe you could make it.

  35. No, Fapper you said you were leaving, four or five times now. You did not qualify those staements, you simply said you were done.

    FOUR or FIVE times.

    And instead, you came back and puled, and whined, and whimpered, and moaned, and got nappies in a twist because people observed the fact that you did nothing but pule, and whine, and whimper, and moan, and get your nappies in a twist.

    And since your infantilism is entirely without bound, lacking the manhood to simply follow through on your multiple announcements, you come back and make childish excuses for your puling, whining, whimpering and moaning. And you then bridle with self-righteous indignation that the only thing left to do is continually mock and deride your infatile puling, whining, whimpering and moaning.

    Now, run upstairs and ask Mommy to explain what all those big words mean.

  36. I don’t know what any of that means.

    Anyway I was just responding to the insults you, that chicken Wayne, and Gummitch were making about me back on the 27th. Insults about me, that come up in Google.

    That’s all. Just wanted to see what you had to say about it. And I guess I’ve seen.

    But whatever. I guess I had you pegged for a little more class than that, and was hoping to see some maybe, that’s all.

    But like you said, …whatever.

    • Sorry to disappoint you, Bart. I have a feeling that’s a common theme with people in your life — the constant disappointment.

      What the common denominator there…?

      Aw hell, whatever…

  37. I doubt it, ebb. He’d have to be able to read in the first place. All ‘dem hard words stuffs just don’t make what sense ‘less he says they does. And after that first six-pack of redbull (or is it “5 hour energy”?) the typing totally outruns the thinking.

  38. Gary Holstein permalink
    November 27, 2010 8:10 pm

    No, Fapper you said you were leaving, four or five times now. You did not qualify those staements, you simply said you were done.

    That’s right ponyboy.

    I said I was leaving, but I didn’t say when.

    And if you don’t like my responses to you, then don’t come looking for them.

  39. Oh, my Gary I just looked up ‘fapper’ – it was new to me. Urban Dictionary isn’t always my first thought for definitions but in this case, for some reason it shouted UD…

  40. Gary Herstein permalink
    November 27, 2010 8:10 pm

    And since your infantilism is entirely without bound, lacking the manhood to simply follow through on your multiple announcements, you come back and make childish excuses for your puling, whining, whimpering and moaning. And you then bridle with self-righteous indignation that the only thing left to do is continually mock and deride your infatile puling, whining, whimpering and moaning.

    Now, run upstairs and ask Mommy to explain what all those big words mean.

    lol, what big words?

    You mean like “infatile”? lol.

    And you two tweedle dumbs have the nerve to criticize MY grammar?

    lol.

    The word you’re looking for nimrod, is “infantile”.

  41. Zooey permalink
    November 27, 2010 8:14 pm

    Sorry to disappoint you, Bart. I have a feeling that’s a common theme with people in your life — the constant disappointment.

    What the common denominator there…?

    Aw hell, whatever…

    Yea, I know you “feel” that.

    I read it in your slanderous comments in that link I gave you, where you attacked my personal life and mentality talking about me as an insane person.

    Funny thing is, none of its based in any reality.

    None of it impacts nor defines me, my life, my family, my home, my business, or my sanity.

    So where does that leave us?

    It leaves us, with a guy who blogs just like anyone else here, but who “goes against the grain”, and doesn’t “goosestep” in lockstep, with the ranks.

    And when I’m posting a comment people agree with, I’m a hero.

    And when I’m challenging the “group think”, then I’m an insane, drug addicted antichrist.

    : |

    So go on. Label me some more. I’m the most evil thing since canned spam, and my family hates me, I have nothing, I live in my moms basement….blah blah blah.

    But at the end of the day, we both know the truth. And you know, that I know that you know the truth.

    And the truth is I’m just another blogger, just like anyone here, except when I dare take a position that goes against the group, …then suddenly I’m Hitler and Ted Bundy all rolled into one.

  42. Doc, we’ve not been ‘formally introduced’ – I’ve been following TP and the Zoo for years – even when you were “Bartlebee”, I believe the name you used.
    Many years ago I enjoyed reading what you had to say – you’d link to some interesting sites.
    Then something happened (can’t pinpoint as it’s been a long time) you’d glom onto, what to most seemed like a minor thing but to you was major. Like a pit-bull you’d clamp down, never relenting and wouldn’t let go, no matter what.
    That truly isn’t a way to ‘debate’.
    I realize you’re feeling ‘put upon’, please, try to remember it is up to you to either quell or escalate. Either you keep the bitter taste in your mouth or sweeten with some sucrose.

  43. Then something happened (can’t pinpoint as it’s been a long time) you’d glom onto, what to most seemed like a minor thing but to you was major. Like a pit-bull you’d clamp down, never relenting and wouldn’t let go, no matter what.

    Yes, I am a tough opponent in a debate.

    Just ask any right wing troll in TP.

    But just because some in here were dumb enough to engage me in a debate, …and get their ass handed to them, doesn’t make me the Boston Strangler.

    • Well, I’m pretty sure no one ever called you the “Boston Strangler,” Bart.

      Go ahead, say some “slanderous” things about me — the we’ll be even. Does it work that way?

  44. 2ebbandflow permalink

    I realize you’re feeling ‘put upon’, please, try to remember it is up to you to either quell or escalate. Either you keep the bitter taste in your mouth or sweeten with some sucrose.

    Point taken.

    And I can’t fault that comment.

    I do choose to mix it up rather than back down.

    But just because someones a sore looser, doesn’t make them right.

    And it doesn’t make the other guy “evil”.

  45. Zooey permalink
    November 27, 2010 8:36 pm

    Well, I’m pretty sure no one ever called you the “Boston Strangler,” Bart.

    Go ahead, say some “slanderous” things about me — the we’ll be even. Does it work that way?

    Nope. You know I’ve never really criticized you. We had a word or two one night, but not much really. Never really saw you that way.

    guess that’s why those comments hurt a little. Didn’t see that ever coming from you.

    • I guess I’m supposed to feel guilty now. No matter that Bart can get positively vicious and sarcastic when he perceives himself disagreed with or crossed — it’s up to me to feel guilty. Hell, if I wanted to continue to fall for that crap, Bart and I might as well get married.

      I guess that’s another glass of wine for me…

      Goodnight, all.

  46. Why is it that those who choose to use ‘Doc’ or ‘dr’ in their moniker are so damn full of themselves?
    At first I thought you were the fake ‘dr’ hunt/grebe/motormouth – then you revealed who you were.
    Your debating skills are just like those of the ‘fake dr’: the ‘debate’ is over when you each declare you’ve ‘won’ not that there’s been any conclusion.
    That’s not a debate.

  47. 2ebbandflow permalink
    November 27, 2010 8:42 pm

    Why is it that those who choose to use ‘Doc’ or ‘dr’ in their moniker are so damn full of themselves?
    At first I thought you were the fake ‘dr’ hunt/grebe/motormouth – then you revealed who you were.
    Your debating skills are just like those of the ‘fake dr’: the ‘debate’ is over when you each declare you’ve ‘won’ not that there’s been any conclusion.
    That’s not a debate.

    Well I’m not sure what debate you’re referring to.

    And I think the personal attacks ended about half an hour ago.

    😐

    And I just got through commending you for speaking to me reasonably and respectfully.

    Was I premature there?

  48. Zooey permalink
    November 27, 2010 8:47 pm

    I guess I’m supposed to feel guilty now.

    Well you asked, and I told you how I felt.

    Something I don’t usually do.

    But clearly no matter what I say, its just some evil ploy.

    Damned if I do, damned if I don’t.

  49. Zooey permalink
    November 27, 2010 8:47 pm


    No matter that Bart can get positively vicious and sarcastic when he perceives himself disagreed with or crossed

    oh come on Zooey.

    I am ALWAYS sarcastic, but seldom “vicious”.

    Half of what I say is in jest, and the other half has a joke in it somewhere.

    You’ve got to know that. You’ve known me too long.

    Hell look at my handles for crying out loud.

    “GAYLORD FOCKER”? Doc Shabbit. Bartlebee?

    I mean come on.

    Does that have the feel of seriousness to you?

    That’s whats so laughable. Most of what I say is in good fun, but some of the regulars here who like to gang up on people they can’t beat in a one on one debate get “vicious”.

    Hell what did you think those comments about my sanity were?

    Tame?

    Everyone in here gets sarcastic, and vicious? Just look at your cuckold boy there Gary’s comments to me tonight.

    Comments he made BEFORE I even said anything to him.

    Look at some of the foul, ugly names he called me.

    Come on.

    Doc’s not the only one who is able to gen up the sarcastic wit, or spew out a few insults.

    I think the problem here is, …Doc just does it better.

  50. Poor widdo Lord Fapper jumps in, snivelling behind his fabricated ID, spews out endless streams of infantile complaints about how his poor widdo feewings have been hurt, and then spews twice as much because people refuse to take his iddy-biddy feewings and his nappies in a twist seriously.

    He proudly announces how he is leaving 4 — 6 or more times, then continuously returns, spews and pules more, and is outraged because his spewing and puling is treated like nothing other than spewing and puling.

    Being grotesquely infantile, he fabricates grotesquely infantile excuses to justify his grotesque infantilism, and declares himself the winner of the contest he fabricated out of his complete inability to even momentarily immitate adult behavior.

    What’s the matter, widdo boo-boo? Did someone not take all of his meds today?

    Now, spew and pule and whine some more, because clearly that’s what demonstrates your overwhelming superiority to us poor mortals who, recognizing you for the childish, whimpering, vapid, vacuous waste you are, recognize that the only thing left to us is to accurately describe you in all your pathetic, worthless reality.

    But you, being higher than a satellite on redbull and your own absolute lack of emotional development, can rest satisfied in your childish need for the last word. Because I’m going to bed, and you will spew in out-of-control childishness for another 3 — 6 posts, declaring your grand superiority in every one of them as you repeatedly demonstrate what everyone capable of actual though has long since recognized (with varying degrees of horror and disgust) about you:

    Your childish inability to be anything other than a puling, whimpering child.

  51. WaltTheMan, does GD live close enough to have watched the Impatience grow to full glory before ‘the fade’ into darkness/autumn?

  52. 2ebbandflow permalink
    November 27, 2010 9:42 pm

    Doc, it appears you are enamored of the Butterfly…but have an odd way of showing it.

    Actually, based on your obsession with me, …it appears you’re enamored with me.

    :\

    I like daisy’s…

  53. Flatter yourself, if you must, Doc Gaylord but my attentions are focused on a Northern Flicker.
    Me being a winged thing and all…no daisy here but a Falco peregrinus. ;>

  54. Having watched last night’s “show” on and off from inception till now, I think I’ve come up with a new definition for a loose cannon, and it contains the word ‘focker’ — or ‘fucker’, whichever. The only positive I can come up with is that one of my deeply held suspicions garnered via TP proved to be completely accurate: Shabbit is Latin for ‘crack pipe.’

  55. wow..very poignant….

    Its a good thing all you good people are here to tell me what an evil wretch I am….or how else would I know?

  56. It’s all in the interpretation.

    It’s not always about you, Doc.

    Modern English is the name of the band. Period. Full Stop. End of Sentence.

    The song is “I’ll Melt with You”

    “About getting along – the future is opened wide…”

    lyjrics

  57. Well gee, it was when I made one it was reason to rejoice and herald my eternal ignorance.

    By your standards, when I make a typo, its because I’m illiterate, “can’t read”, the antichrist….etc.

    You jumped all over it.

    But when you make one….well…then its just a typo.

    😐

    go figger…

  58. Once upon a midnight dreary, … while I pondered, ..weak and weary,

    Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,

    While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,

    As of some one gently rapping, …rapping at my chamber door…

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