The Watering Hole: February 18 – The Texas 11

The situation in Wisconsin is like “déjà vu all over again,” to borrow an expression from Casey Stengel.

The Texas Eleven pulled off a similar action in 2003. Even Tom Delay (The Hammer) entered the fray by trying to bring US Marshals into the equation.

This brings up the question – What would the Egyptians do when faced with the same issues that are churning in Wisconsin?

Perhaps Wisconsinites can create a democracy! What would Boehner do?

This is our Open Thread. Please feel free to present your thoughts on this or any topic that comes to mind.

71 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: February 18 – The Texas 11

  1. Walt, you got your quote wrong. That was Yogi Berra! 😀

    “It’s déjà vu all over again”. Berra explained that this quote originated when he witnessed Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris repeatedly hit back to back home runs in the Yankees’ seasons in the early 1960s.

  2. Thanks for posting this Walt. I knew this situation had occurred previously, but hadn’t realized it was so long ago.
    Speaking of Tom Delay, aware that he has been finally convicted, I’m wondering if he is behind bars yet.

  3. The protesters in WI are giving hope to all the other states that are facing the same union busting tactics. I’m ready to travel to Harrisburg, PA if Gov Corbett tries the same thing here. Gov Christi in NJ has been pulling similar crap and he gets verbally aggressive with opponents. The people of WI have offered encouragement to other union workers in other states. Go WI! Go Union! In unity there is strength.

  4. house,
    I should have gone with my original thought and borrowed from Johnny Harte in the Wizard of ID and used “In Wisconsin, the Republicans are revolting.” My mistake – I’ll try to compose my post before midnight from now on.

  5. Mornin all! Looks like something going on at TP, can’t post. Shows one item not loading, and the details indicate it’s some kind of login error… Geez.
    Anyhow, we is all cheezeheads, anybody got recall donation info?

  6. In solidarity with the public servants of Wisconsin I’ve chosen a sturgeon as an avatar.
    Living on an island in northern Lake Michigan, across the waters from Sturgeon Bay, I had always hoped to see one, but other than at a hatchery never did.

  7. Raven, many years ago I caught one by accident while canoeing in northern Wi. Broke the line about 6 feet from the canoe. Truly an atavistic avatar. (Also, there are some pictures of last Spring’s sturgeon run on my blog. I’m hoping to make it over this year to witness it myself.)

  8. I’ve viewed your photos in the past hooda, I’ll revisit your blog…
    While on the island I carved out of cedar logs life sized (5 to 8 foot) sturgeons, I sold every one I ever made.

  9. The ground floor of the Russian pavilion at the Montreal Expo in 1968 had water courses around the entire level, with huge sturgeon swimming incessantly up and down the channels.
    And yes, smoked sturgeon is very tasty…

  10. I keep recalling with chagrin my own attitutde toward unions of 30 years ago. It seemed like we’d SO outgrown any real need for them. In my own defense, 5 or 6 years later that had changed enough that I still refuse to by Hormel products.

  11. My apologies to WI. I must keep Ollie as my avatar as he is very ill, most likely terminally ill and may be passing onto his next experience. This is a difficult time for me as all of my previous cats just left home and never came back. That’s not happening this time.

  12. Cats, best to Ollie. We were joined a little over a year ago by Shadow who seems to finally have decided that this is her home. She took off for a week last summer, disappeared, but then came back a little bit nervous and worn. Hard to imagine what it would be like without her anymore, delightful little critter that she is. I’ve about decided that when it’s time for me to cash in my chips I want to go to either dog or cat heaven — I’ve had it with humans, for the most part, and spending eternity with the vast bulk of them is about as unappealing a concept as I can come up with!

  13. Looks like the “first printing” of my book has sold out (I think there were ten of them). Both Amazon and B/N are out, only one available thru private seller on B/N. Hoping the publisher has more on the train or truck and on their way. Hard to plan the best time to contact that realtor in the south of France until the global book supply stabilizes.

  14. This morning I saw Ed Schultz on MSNBC, shortly after 11am central time, being interviewed by Contessa Brewer. Ed’s radio show starts at 11, so I watched with interest as the time passed and he continued to talk to Contessa about the protests in Madison, Wisconsin, instead of being on the air. He did his tv show last night live from the protest and tonight will do an unscheduled Friday show at 10pm, 9 central. as well, according to Ms. Brewer.

    I noticed that Ed was doing his radio show from the studio of The MIC 92.1, WXXM-FM, in Madison. The MIC carries his radio show live every day, as do many progressive format stations. I was reminded of another story about The MIC earlier this year.

    Clear Channel to boot Bill Press show off the Mic 92.1

    The Mic 92.1 in Madison is set to change its programming once again — unless people act against it. On April 1, the station will end the run of the Bill Press Show in the mornings, replacing it with the Wall Street Journal Report, a Rupert Murdoch-owned program.

    This isn’t the first time that the Mic, owned by Clear Channel, has tried to replace political programming with pro-corporate talk radio. In January of 2009, the Thom Hartmann show was replaced by a call-in program aimed at helping listeners improve their finances. Though such a show would be beneficial to listeners of any ideology, the fact that it replaced one of the more popular shows on the station was a sign to many that management didn’t care about programming that listeners wanted to hear.

    Ultimately, Clear Channel acquiesced to the demands of the Mic’s listeners, and reinstated the Thom Hartmann show. However, the local morning show hosted by Lee Rayburn remained canceled. The show that ultimately filled in for Rayburn’s was none other than the Bill Press show.

    I’m hoping a side benefit from the protest is that once again, Clear Channel will decide to keep the Progressive Talk format intact at The MIC. Bill Press is an important Progressive link to the White House press briefings, as he’s ‘in the room’ each day. Of course, it wouldn’t hurt if more folks looked up The MIC, and listened either on-line or by terrestrial radio.

  15. I think for my next effort I’ll be legally changing my name to either Sarah Palin or George Bush, hire someone else to write it, and then the first printing will be maybe a million or two.

  16. House, work has kept me away all week. I will be in Madison tomorrow and possibly Sunday. I just need to find a decent video camera to take along.

  17. Palin was at an event in Long Island yesterday. Forget what she said, doesn’t matter. But there are the shoes she wore. I mean, really? What is this: The Real Housewives Of Wasilla?

  18. Cats,

    They are pouring the fertilizer on the grass roots movement in Madison. Could I have expected anything else?

    Will Becker boy be there as well?

  19. badmoodman, those shoes make the Quitter’s feet look like hooves. Yuck.

    Badmooddaughter: “Those look like tranny stripper shoes.”

  20. Zooey, my new company phone has a pretty decent camera and a slot for one of those memory dinguses. But I’m still gonna see if I can get a video cam.

  21. Uh oh, I think you=know-who may just have declared for the presidency:

    “Do you question his faith and citizenship?” Palin was asked today during an onstage interview hosted by the Long Island Association. Her answer was brief and to the point:

    “I don’t, and those are distractions,” she said to some applause. “What we’re concerned about is the economy. And we’re concerned about the policies coming out of his administration and what he believes in terms of big government or private sector. So, no, the faith, the birth certificate, others can engage in that kind of conversation. It’s distracting. It gets annoying and let’s just stick with what really matters.”

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2011/02/iv_palin_gets_it_right.html

    • badmoodman,

      You mean she doesn’t care about his faith and citizenship anymore? Seems like those were her favorite topics just a while back.

      Having said that, I truly hope she tries to get the repiggie nomination for 2012 — she will receive a well-deserved smackdown from her own party for her impudence.

      • OMG!! I’m watching last night’s Ed Show, and he’s talking to the runaway WI Dems — they are all together in the same room, in the undisclosed location. I love it!

        The crowd around Ed is going absolutely wild.

  22. Well, it is now official: The last, chimerical hope of staying in Prescott is entirely gone. Since I’ll never be able to keep the house on what passes for my income, this means arranging to sell the place and leave by the third week of May (more likely the middle). The time frame is dictated by a kind of convenience; a colleague in So. IL (where I’ll be moving) needs someone to house sit from that period to mid-August. That will provide enough time to set up some more permanent form of living arrangement with the other folks I’ll be living with.

    This latter is related to my query about travel trailers and their “accomodations” the other day. A very real possibility is moving a 22′ trailer into their pole barn garage, and then figuring our how to deal with “black water” waste.

  23. Affirmative Gary.

    Sometimes throwing something that doesn’t work away can be analogous with letting go.
    I can empathize with your losing your fathers home, I have a similar experience.
    When one door closes, another opens.
    Freedom is one of the most priceless things in life, letting go is the path to freedom.

      • Jackie Speier spoke out today about the abortion issue, including her own experience. Remember her?

        Speier served as a congressional staffer for Congressman Leo Ryan. Speier was part of the November 1978 fact-finding mission to investigate allegations of human rights abuses by the Reverend Jim Jones and his Peoples Temple followers, almost all of whom were American citizens who had moved to Jonestown with Jones in 1977 and 1978.[5] Speier was one of only two members of the mission who were concerned enough about potential violence to make out a will before traveling to Jonestown.[10] Several Peoples Temple members ambushed the investigative team and others boarding the plane to leave Jonestown on November 18. Five people died, including Congressman Ryan. While attempting to shield herself from rifle and shotgun fire behind small airplane wheels with the other members of the team, Speier was shot five times and waited 22 hours before help arrived.

        I remember like it was yesterday…I was working in a little kitchen shop in Jack London Square in Oakland, and I would always have the radio on. I remember hearing about this lunatic Jim Jones long before that, and that Leo Ryan was going down there to check things out and maybe help some people come home. The horror came when I heard that Leo Ryan and his staff members had been ambushed at the small airport, and then hour by hour the news came about Leo Ryan’s death and the numbers of followers who were dead and rotting in that jungle. 20, 50, 150, 200, 300, 500, 600, and on and on. I’ll never forget it because it happened around my 19th birthday, and it was so fucking horrific to think that so many people had volunteered for death like that. Later that month, George Moscone and Harvey Milk were murdered in the SF City Hall building.

        I remember thinking things could never get worse than this…but they have managed to do so…

  24. Raven,
    Ben Franklin had a bit to say about certainty in life. I know that he was right about one and have no desire to verify the other.

  25. I actually got my refund this morning.
    Sorry Wal-Mart, but I’m sending it to the credit card company.
    Even death has some uncertainty to it, till it comes…
    😉
    As uncertain as my line of work is already, the looming threat of a government shut down now rears it’s ugly head from the abyss.

    Thanks for that background on Jackie Speier, Zooey. I hadn’t made that connection, though I also remember the event well.

    • Raven, I’m happy for you. My refund seems far off at the moment. Sadly, my attorney employers of last summer all managed to get my W2 forms wrong. Every one of them in the same year. 😯

      Like you, my refund will go to the credit card company. I’m embarrassed that my credit card debt has escalated over the last four years, but I hadn’t anticipated the cost of EVERYTHING increasing in that time.

  26. I spent a lot of money on gasoline last year, living out of my truck, and eating at restaurants, and didn’t pay down the card through the summer.
    This season should be better, I’ll be stationed at the backcountry work center and cooking my own meals.
    Gas is well over $3.00 now in these parts.

  27. Trust industry and their marketers to do what they have demonstrated they are capable of doing.
    Not so long ago gasoline went from an average of $2.50 to over $3.00, eventually spiking at around $4.00 per gallon. Everyone freaked out, then it dropped to around $2.75 and everyone was happy.
    “”At least it’s not $4.00” we all sighed.
    Steadily creeping up thereafter to the present where everyone accepts $3.00 to $3.25 per gallon. Look for a “crisis spike” within the next year, where it will hit $5.00 per, then drop back to $3.50 for a couple of years as it crawls up to $3.75.
    Till the next cycle.

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