The Watering Hole: April 7 – GeoSynchronous Orbits

People sometimes wonder why we can place objects in orbits where they always seem to be at the same point in the sky. If a nearly circular orbit is assumed, the first obvious answer is that the orbit be very have to be near the equator since, otherwise, it would bobble up and down as it orbited. An extreme case would be a polar orbit where the wobble would be ±90 degrees. Also the orbit would have to equal an Earth day because the orbital period may not be an exact product or sub product of a day on Earth. This is exemplified by the ISS which orbits the Earth in about 90 minutes while the Moon takes a bit over 28 days.

There has to be a happy medium!

This is why geosynchronous orbits work! Distance and the relative masses of two bodies come into play when they orbit about one another, but the mass of the lesser body dries out in the wash.

If you are actually into physics, you can look here.

I might note that a science fiction writer came up with this concept – Arthur C. Clark.

At this point, I might note that most modern Earth synchronous satellites are placed in slightly inclined orbits in order to allow more space in the equatorial region. The inclination allows for the placement of hundreds of satellites that orbit along the same longitude and latitude area and altitude without fear of collision, human error excepted. The combined drift represents a directional drift if less than 1 second (1/3600 of a degree) in a volume of about a million cubic meters.

This is our Open Thread. Where do your ideas come from?


186 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: April 7 – GeoSynchronous Orbits

  1. Old osprey’s return to Scotland thrills birders

    Most ospreys have an average life span of around eight years, but Lady is estimated to be 26.

    On Sunday, Lady’s most recent mate – an 11-year-old male – came back and settled himself into her nest.

    Loch of Lowes Cam

  2. Ebb: “I didn’t understand a word of what this discovery is about.”

    Too early to call it a discovery yet — if it cannot be repeated then it may simply have been a glitch in the machine (the article mentioned that the Tevatron is close to retirement.)

    Particles and forces at the very small scale (below that of the atom) are studied by smashing things like electrons and protons into other things at very, very high energies. The tevatron is interesting because it can achieve very high energies indeed, some one trillion electron volts (hence, the T E V in the name). But the machine is expensive to operate and has viewed as obsolete now that the Large Hadron Collider in Bern has come on line.

    In any event, theory dictates a fairly detailed and precise picture of what kinds of things should happen when “stuff” gets smashed together at these high energies. So when the data veers even a little bit out of that theoretical prediction, it is pretty startling. So a “bump” in the data could be a big thing. If it stands up to further scrutiny, then it will require a major revision of current physics to account for it.

    However, it could also be wishful thinking on the part of the experimenters. Since they’re no going to have to wait in line at Bern to do experiments, there is a psychological urge to have that “big deal” happen here. On the other hand, that same psychological urgency may have heightened their awareness and attention so that data that had been previously dismissed as noise or a mere artifact, is genuinely noticed for the first time. The real test(s) now will be to see if it can be duplicated.

  3. “The Chinese characters for Giraffe are 長頸鹿 and sounded out as “cháng jǐng lù,” which translates to “long-necked deer.”

  4. Zooey, Some of the regular trolls over there are making me so flipping mad.

  5. Bristol Palin profits, teen girls lose.

    From Michelle Goldberg:

    “A U.S. government report from last year found that a fifth of sexually active girls actually welcomed a pregnancy. Some girls, seeking love and a purpose in life, are getting pregnant.

    This shouldn’t be surprising. Teenagers from poor families see that they have little besides parenthood to look forward to. Meanwhile, America has come to fetishize pregnancy to an unprecedented degree. Magazines obsessively track celebrity baby bumps. Paparazzi stalk famous toddlers. Reproduction has turned nobodies like Kate Gosselin and the girls on MTV’s Teen Mom into stars. Palin is the apotheosis of this phenomenon. She might say that pregnancy is something to be avoided, but the story of her life speaks louder. If you’re cute and lucky, it says, getting pregnant can be a way to get paid lots of money for doing nothing at all.”

  6. “(CBS) Are political leanings hard-wired into the brain? That’s the suggestion of a new study that reveals striking anatomical differences between the brains of liberals and those of conservatives.

    The brains of people who call themselves liberals tend to have larger anterior cingulate cortexes than the brains of people on the opposite side of the political spectrum, the study showed. The anterior cingulate cortex is a collar-shaped region around the corpus collosum, a structure that relays signals between the right and left hemispheres of the brain.

    What about conservatives? Their brains brains tend to have larger amygdalas. The amygdala is an almond-shaped structure located deep within the brain.

    Based upon what brain scientists know about the function of the two brain regions, researchers believe the structural differences support the notion that liberals are better equipped to make sense of conflicting information while conservatives are better able to recognize a threat.”

    In a nutshell:
    -Liberals are able to transpose left brain and right brain thinking, enabling them to creatively problem solve.
    -Conservatives can only recognize threats, activating either a fight or flight response.

    Here’s the entire article.

  7. More on the amygdala:
    The amygdala is an almond shaped mass of nuclei located deep within the temporal lobe of the brain. It is a limbic system structure that is involved in many of our emotions and motivations, particularly those that are related to survival. The amygdala is involved in the processing of emotions such as fear, anger and pleasure. The amygdala is also responsible for determining what memories are stored and where the memories are stored in the brain. It is thought that this determination is based on how huge an emotional response an event invokes.

    This explains much of the screechings from the likes of Palin, Bachmann, Gingeritch, etc…

  8. researchers believe the structural differences support the notion that liberals are better equipped to make sense of conflicting information

    I would take that further and say that liberals are better at recognizing conflicting information. I don’t think conservatives even realize that what they said at the end of their senetence contradicted what they said at the beginning. And hypocrisy and self-contradictions do not seem to bother them in the least. (Exhibit A: Newt.)

    while conservatives are better able to recognize a threat.”

    And this I would dial back a bit and say that conservatives are able to see threats even where none exist. To them, everything is a threat if it means they would have to change a single thing about the way they do things. I think it boils down to what one would call an actual “threat”. Then we get into that problem conservatives have with what words actually mean.

  9. Functioning from an emotional base allows any threat to become amplified, and precludes rational thought with how to deal with a problem situation.
    A major part of the dumbing down of America relies on keeping the populace in an emotional state. Advertizing, television media, sports, all target the emotions.

  10. from Steve Benen:

    * And in Iowa, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty’s presidential campaign is off to an unfortunate start, after a paid, full-time staffer got drunk and tried to break into a family’s home in the middle of the night. Pawlenty has placed the staffer, Benjamin Foster, on a two-week unpaid suspension. (thanks to a different R.B. for the tip)

  11. “while conservatives are better able to recognize a threat.”

    Regardless of whether there really is a threat or not. If you call “six” every time you roll a die, it doesn’t make you psychic on those occassions when six actually comes up.

  12. Hi, gang.

    Still no word from the authorities about moving the geese. There seems to be a slight shift among tenants towards letting the geese stay and the maintenance guy put up some boards so the geese can’t actually stick their heads through the railing and hiss/nip at people. Property management is still, understandably, worried about liability but, if the authorities won’t move the geese, I would think that liability is not an issue. The only real danger is if someone were to fall if chased by the geese or a very slight danger of infection from their droppings.

  13. Speaking of “conservative” brains:

    I have often said that frightened people make stupid decisions. Since right-wingers appear to be afraid of everything they really can’t be trusted to make decisions about anything.

  14. Good Morning/Afternoon! pete, is there any safe walk around distance? Meaning how far a territory is Mr. Goose protecting and can a safe perimeter (for both human & goose) be erected?

    Keeping a good thought for a safe solution!

  15. RUCerious – was it this message, from TP, you received:

    Comment awaiting approval
    Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.

    (obviously it’s the one I received. The filters seem to be on to the a$$ spelling.
    I think that’s the only ‘bad’ word I typed. Oh the comment was in reply to either worthless duck or fakedrhunt).

    A few minutes after that – I posted an innocuous comment just to see if I were actually banned – that went through.

  16. Ebb,

    It seems like about 25 feet from the nest is “safe” although it depends on whether Daddy Goose sees one comming or not. Also, there’s a difference in his reaction between if one just walks by or stops to look. I think that we could run a caution tape (no one makes “DANGER! KILLER GOOSE! tape) from the railing to a post and from there to the corner of the building and my guess is that conflicts would be limited. Even before the boards went up it seemed like Daddy Goose had figured out that people on the other side of the fence aren’t threats (until I knelt down and pointed my camera at him!).

  17. Ebb… I got “@ ss” through…at TP, but I disliked how quickly one of my comments got moderated even though it was total snark. I think I put “loins” in the comment.

  18. (until I knelt down and pointed my camera at him!)

    Then the Gander wanted to put up a sign that said “Avian paparazzi go home!”

  19. Liberty Lover… there is a big problem with space junk. 2 satellites have collided, and the Chinese destroyed one in orbit, on purpose. I was just reading about this a day or so ago, I’ll see if I can find it again.

  20. LL, my reply to mayhem2 was truly inspired and scatological – re: him being banned under every moniker and returning as #2 – well you see where that was going.
    And to think it was all flushed by the use of a$$wipe.

  21. I got away with calling fakedr a buttmuffin this morning, no questions asked. I don’t think the fakedr appreciated it, but that doesn’t bother me a whole lot.

  22. Ebb… that mayhem fellow is quite the card, he thinks that he comes and smacks us liberals around the blog, but his arguments rarely hold water.

    I’ll bet he has a pretty big amygdala.

    Raven… thanks for the article. Going to read it now.

  23. frugal….I have to admit that I had to go to the urban dictionary for the definition of duckbutter (I’m so sheltered that way) and I am amazed at the things I do not know about the world. 😉

  24. Woo-hoo! Spring has officially sprung. Just hit 65 degrees. Daddy Goose, much like many human males, has decided to go for a walk around the parking lot leaving Mother Goose to fend for the nest. He’s a nice guy when one approaches him away from home while Mom is a total bitch, hissing at anyone who happens by. And she’s so serene when Daddy Goose is patrolling the border.

    Once again I’m reminded of how silly it is that we humans spend so much effort examining the differences between us and other animals when the similarities are so much more interesting.

  25. Sigh…

    The stupid trolls are in complete control of TP once again. I find myself wishing they would just stop allowing any comments at all.

  26. “If you call “six” every time you roll a die, it doesn’t make you psychic on those occassions when six actually comes up.”

    It just means you think about “six” too much!


  27. “Have any of our manmade satellites ever collided in space?”

    I heard on the radio this morning that there has been at least one such collision.

  28. “Palin’s amygdala must be the size of a hockey puck.” – Raven.

    ok…so now I have to wipe the Pepsi off my computer…


  29. Raven— It sounds like we need a giant space vacuum. Just like mankind to leave a mess and not clean up after one’s self. 🙂

  30. I read a fun sci-fi novel this winter, in which extra terrestrials deemed humans too violent to be allowed any further into space.
    They simply blew up all the orbiting satellites; the resulting debris cloud was then far too hazardous for earthlings to pass through.

  31. Poll of the Day

    “We asked voters on this poll whether they think interracial marriage should be legal or illegal- 46% of Mississippi Republicans said it should be illegal to just 40% who think it should be legal.

    Palin’s net favorability with folks who think interracial marriage should be illegal (+55 at 74/19) is 17 points higher than it is with folks who think interracial marriage should be legal (+38 at 64/26.) Meanwhile Romney’s favorability numbers see the opposite trend. He’s at +23 (53/30) with voters who think interracial marriage should be legal but 19 points worse at +4 (44/40) with those who think it should be illegal. Tells you something about the kinds of folks who like each of those candidates.”

  32. Hello everyone. Is it just me or is the whole almond shaped thing indicative?

  33. No, it’s not just you…
    I took a big chance with the flat cylinder shape, but then, without an MRI, we may never know for sure exactly what does reside at the base of Palin’s brain.

  34. “Righties feel like a nut, Others don’t.
    Almond lump drives you nuts,
    Rings don’t”

  35. badmoodman,

    Truly astounding poll results. As much as I support the right to free speech and universal suffrage; I really wish that those who think interracial marriage should be illegal were forbidden to vote.

    I wish they had also asked about religious affiliation and church attendance. I noted that 66% percent of their “Republican primary voters” were over 46 years old with 30% over 65. I would be willing to bet that most self-identify as Evangelical Christian and virtually all of them attend church once or more each week.


  36. Raven,

    I think we can be pretty sure that the coccyx is at the base of Palin’s brain. Her skull seems to be occupied by a waxy substance that simply amplifies sound.

  37. The Right has created an atmosphere where it’s now acceptable to express racism out loud. They’ve been feeding their minions all those self-validating morsels for years now and the mouth breathers have a community of like-minded bigots.

  38. lib caveman:
    “I’m hungry.”

    con caveman:
    “Me too.”

    “Let’s go out and find something to eat.”

    “I dunno, something might eat us…”

    “We’ll take a couple of torches with us, to scare the sabretooths away.”

    “I dunno, we could start a wildfire…”

    “Hey, great idea, we’ll start a wildfire to drive the mammoths off a cliff!”

    “Oh no, don’t go blaming me for crazy ideas…”

    “I think we better leave the cave anyways, I don’t feel right about the way the ground is shaking, it might be an earthquake!”

    “I don’t see any earthquake…”

  39. If the Right gets their way on interracial marriages they will prolly start on interdenominational.

  40. I almost hate to say it but I am actually starting to root for a government shutdown. Yes, I know it will hurt a lot of people who are innocent. Yes, I realize it will quite likely trigger a new Depression. But frankly, I am afraid America has been dumbed down and duped so badly that only a huge smack in the chops will awaken them.

    I really hate thinking like this but I just don’t see the alternative.

  41. I can hold out for a couple more months.
    After that?
    When one door closes, another opens.

  42. MSNBC just reported such “clerical error” in voting in Wisconsin which gives Prosser a LOT more votes……

  43. Raven, Diebold has no clerical errors, or errors of any kind, since they have systematically eliminated any possibility of verifying what their machines report. Why report facts when you already no what the out comes will be?

    Silly blackbird …

  44. I can hold out against pretty nearly anything that happens to me. But when it cuts into the lives of either my father or my cats, there’s going to be fuc#ing blood in the streets.

    • Isn’t that rather convenient, Raven? Oops!! 7500 more ballots, my bad.

      In a county with a questionable and secretive County Clerk.

  45. Pete – is the reason you think Palin’s coccyx is at the base of her brain is because you think that she has her head up there, or that her head is an @ ss? A little clarification please. 😉

    • LL, I still don’t know what “duckbutter” means. 😉

      There are somethings I don’t need running around my brain.

  46. Well, badmoonman, I heard a Dem strategist say this morning that announcing her victory is exactly what she should have done, b/c that is how Bush Handled it from the very beginning in 2000.

    Oh, what a different world it would be if Gore had done the same…

  47. A Republican clerk in a Republican county finds 7,500 misplaced votes two days after the election. In an election where 1.5 million votes were cast. Thats about .oo5%?

    I figured a recount was due as it was. Now I think the FBI should be looking into Waukesha County while the recount is being done.

  48. LL,

    Well? Since Bible Spice’s head is full of a sound-amplifying waxy substance (kind of like whales but they are smarter and the waxy substance is found in a “tank” that’s separate from the brain cavity) then her “brain” is what we mammals call a spinal cord. So? Since the coccyx is at the base of the spinal cord? There you go.

    (NOTE: It may be more accurate to call her spinal cord a notocord since she doesn’t seem to posses an adult nervous system.)

  49. Zooey, you get duck butter from milking a duck and churning the milk. (And no, I am not going to look at the Urban dictionary definition either.)

  50. I thought you got duck butter by putting one in a blender for 20 minutes on frappe.

  51. Oh come on, Zooey. Watching some poor deluded soul chasing a duck and trying to milk it is a hilarious visual.

  52. Rats. In some ways, I was enjoying the image of a contorted Palin inspecting her lower colon.

    Zooey. Don’t go looking up “duckbutter.” Save yourself.

  53. Hooda… I’m not sure I could find duck nipples if you paid me to milk a duck.

  54. Holy crap, Zooey. Not only should she be booted out on her ass, and possibly jailed; every vote that was only registered by her personal computer system should be declared null and void. It would suck if people who voted in good faith are disenfranchised but I don’t see how anyone could confirm the validity of any votes in her county.

    • pete, I don’t know why the County Commissioners allowed it to continue, unless they are complicit. They have disenfranchised every voter in the county.

  55. LL, we may have just come up with a saying to replace as useless as tits on a bull.

  56. Looks like Gary will be banished to the kitchen at the commune for quacking us up.

  57. County Clerk: Thankful Error Was Caught Early …

    ? ? ?

    In time for what – an inquiry as to where you found them two days AFTER the election?

    does Katherine Harris have a cousin living in WI?

    • Have any of you ever been too tired to eat?

      I’m experiencing this weirdness where I’m starving, but the thought of actually chewing my delicious chef’s salad is exhausting. The wine is going down well, of course, but the food is putting me off.

      I’ve never experienced this before…

  58. “Have any of you ever been too tired to eat?”

    A little bit of bread or crackers, cheese, and as Hooda says, fruit. (Apples? Grapes?)

    Small, small bites so that mechanical chewing suffices. Enough to get the basics down (protein, carb, fiber.)

    • Thanks, Gary & Hooda. I’ll give it a try.

      I don’t know how I’m going to get through all this shit.

  59. Or melon. Water or musk or whatever type. Nature’s Jello when it comes to chewing.

  60. A word aside. In French duck is canard. Canard in English is a deliberately false or misleading statement.

    Why do English speaking people not like ducks?

  61. Zooey, go to your local health food store and get some Rescue Remedy. They have it in a teeny bottle (tastes almost like Crown Royal) or as a cream. It helps you relax and deal with the stress of moving. And graduating. And…you get the idea.

  62. Zooey – just pick out some vegetables from the salad that’s in front you.

    (gentlemen she’s too tired – she needs energy now – the salad is in front of here = eat the salad)

    • Deeply disturbing…from a comment on TP.

      There is a history of secrecy and partisanship surrounding the Waukesha County Clerk and there remain unanswered questions,” Scot Ross, director of the liberal group One Wisconsin Now, said in a statement.

      An audit of Nickolaus’ handling of the 2010 election found that she needed to take steps to improve security and backup procedures, like stop sharing passwords. The audit was requested after the county’s director of administration said Nickolaus had been uncooperative with attempts to have county experts review her systems and confirm backups were in place.

      Nickolaus was given immunity from prosecution in a 2002 criminal investigation into illegal activity by members of the assembly Republican Caucus. She worked for 13 years as a data analyst and computer specialist for the caucus.

      She resigned from her state job in 2002 just before launching her county clerk campaign.

      The corruption probe took down then-Assembly Speaker Scott Jensen, a Republican; Senate Majority Leader Chuck Chvala, D-Madison; Sen. Brian Burke, D-Milwaukee, co-chairman of the powerful Joint Finance Committee; Assembly Majority Leader Steve Foti, R-Oconomowoc; and Rep. Bonnie Ladwig, R-Racine. They all reached plea deals.

      The Government Accountability Board, which is in charge of overseeing Wisconsin’s elections, will review Waukesha County’s numbers to verify the totals, said agency director Kevin Kennedy.

      “We will conduct our own review of issues because we want to make sure that we are tracking every entry she made into our system,” Kennedy said. “We’re concerned when data is missing from a total. We’d like to make sure there is much better communication between their office and our office.”

      Kennedy said it was unfortunate the clerk didn’t double check the data before releasing it to the press.

      “Mistakes are never simple, they usually compound themselves, but these are the kind of mistakes we see happen, we just don’t see them of this magnitude,” Kennedy said.

      Nickolaus said she didn’t notice an absence of votes because her figures showed a 42 percent voter turnout, which exceeded the 30 percent turnout the county typically sees in spring elections.

      “That was an amazing amount of votes,” she said. “So I had no reason to believe I was missing anything.

      Stinky, stinky, stinky…

  63. Hooda,

    As a lifelong aviation fanatic I know a bit about “canard”. It was applied to the first French aircraft to fly because the tail was in front compared to other, later, designs. It’s because ducks have a long neck that sticks out in front compared to many other birds that have short necks and long tails. Americans, who have never been much for bothering about what foreign languages are actually saying, interpreted “canard” to mean “backward”. From there it was a short leqd to “false” and “misleading”.

  64. Zooey, on Jeopardy she would be saying, “Alex, I’ll take basic Rightwing Excuses for 400.”

  65. Wow, I just watched Meredith Viera’s interview with Donald Trump.

    Everybody knows you never go full birther. You can look birther, act birther, but not be birther. Trump went full birther, man. Never go full birther.

  66. badmoodman,

    Why the Hell is she even interviewing a potential presidential candidate? When he said that Obama was born in Kenya did she remember to ask for tips about getting drool stains out of a silk suit? Meredith Viera? Are you kidding? Even Katie Couric, accidentally, scored when she asked Palin what magazines she reads. I mean… arrrrgghhh! The media pisses me off so much that I’m really glad I rarely watch TV. If I still had cable I would either be in prison or hanging from a tree.

  67. Never go full birther.

    I’m beginning to wonder if Orly Taitz might be on the consulting team!

  68. You’d learn more about the world by lying on the couch and drinking gin out of a bottle than by watching the news.

    Garrison Keillor

  69. Why the Hell is she even interviewing a potential presidential candidate?

    Trump isn’t running for anything, except diarrhea of the mouth. This is NBC interviewing the star of an NBC primetime TV show to hype it. It’s all about the viewing numbers, no matter how crazy. The only bad press is no press.

  70. Maybe this Nickolaus piece of shit is going to start another uprising like Walker did. It would be worth it to lose the judge’s seat if it creates an investigation of election fraud and that will have to be if the people rise up because we can’t count on Eric Holder to get it started.

  71. No budget agreement tonight – Obama, Reid and Boner have quit for the night.

  72. Well, bad news out of WI about the votes. As I mentioned on a comment on TP, we do have to be prepared that Prosser might prevail in this; as close as it is. (Although this sounds pretty shady to me). I’m sure it’s still in the range of an automatic recount.

    Good news out of WI, however. The kid that Walker gave that high-paying state job to (as a political favor to a donor) resigned today amid all the controversy surrounding his appointment.

  73. Shayne,

    Leading in to the 2008 election Walker was taped trying to set up a “caging” operation. I heard a radio interview with a Wisconsin political reporter who said, though I have to paraphrase: “If there’s a dirty election in Wisconsin, Walker’s in the middle of it”. He has his machine in place and will be VERY hard to root out.

    I try not to dwell on conspiracy theories but one can’t help but wonder if President Obama, Eric Holder, and any number of other key people haven’t found themselves facing a group of armed and masked men in the middle of the night who explained exactly what they would have to do in order for their children to survive President Obama’s term in office.

  74. wow it does not like “H e c k l e a n d J e c k l e”
    typed single spaced.

    This is my thirds try…

  75. I am very suspicious of those election result changes in Wisconsin. I hope they are not accepted as valid without some kind of official investigation. I have to wonder why any state would allow one district or election official to do things differently than all the others? Whose interests are being served by doing this?

  76. Thanks for that link, pete. Seriously, I have to wonder – what will they accept as proof of Obama’s American citizenship? They think there’s a difference between a “birth certificate” and a “certificate of live birth” (which is straight out of the teabagger’s argument). Though he may not have said it in that interview, Trump apparently told someone else (Newsmax?) that Obama’s grandmother said she was in the room when he was born in Kenya. Some of these folks embellish that some more by saying that they have a signed affidavit to that effect. Actually, what they have is a transcript of a telephone interview with her in which she said she was in the room in Kenya when they got the call from the United States saying Barack was born in Hawaii. Yet Trump is being allowed to rep[eat that falsehood unchallenged.

    NBC has to make up their minds about trump. He keeps talking like he plans to run for president, especially when he answers questions about what he would do as president, rather than denying he’s running. Just because he hasn’t announced that he’s forming an exploratory committee doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be considered a candidate. (The fact that he has toyed publicly with the idea in the past might be a better indicator.) Nevertheless, he is going around all the news shows being interviews as if he were going to run. Until he says flat out, “I am not a candidate for president,” NBC should pull his Apprentice shows off the air. They can’t let Trump have it both ways.

  77. pete,

    They call those interviews “exclusive” because, at the time they are being taped, the interviewee is talking “exclusively” to that one network, as opposed to a room full of reporters. They like to falsely give the impression by using the word “exclusive” that no one else is interviewing this person at all.

  78. A “charm”, “gulp”, “mischief”, “tittering”, and “tribe” of magpies.

  79. That’s a great T-shirt idea Ebb!
    Speaking of the rack, it’s that time.
    Later all…

  80. “You’d learn more about the world by lying on the couch and drinking gin out of a bottle than by watching the news.”

    Explains a lot about me, except for the gin sh!t …

  81. Pete, I kind of agree with you that threats have been made my guess by cronies of Cheney and Bush Sr. That’s why it might take the people uprising to get the ball rolling and Wisconsinites are just the people to do it.

  82. Well shit. Tomorrow we find out if my husband is essential or not, though as a contractor he will probably be hurt by the fact that his employer has decided the whole engineering group should be classified as non-essential. Oh, and they’ll let us know what will happen with our insurance and such. Shit.

  83. Shayne: “Gary I don’t see anything in spam.”

    Things I posted did appear, but rather more slowly than I would otherwise expect. I’m in a “thrice burned, really pi$$ed off” state with WP, so the 3 minute wait (and it was that long) for the comments to appear was more than I was willing to invest.

    Thanks for checking!

  84. F the Repugnant party for putting families, like the Outstanding’s, through this torturous crap.

  85. We are trying to make ourselves feel better by reminding ourselves that we have to sacrifice in order to keep a bunch of fools with way more power than brains from defunding the EPA. At least I have some savings, many of husband’s c0-workers are afraid of meeting their bills.

  86. Gary, I went into the spam bin thrice!

    Raven the Rescue Ranger retrieved them – look up thread – three identical!

  87. Outstanding… I hope you weather this storm well. It is just not fair for the R’s to do something like this for political points. But when have they ever cared about real people’s lives?

  88. It’s the damn communists I’m afeared of Gary – I can live with the Socialism/s

  89. LL – that’s in a nutshell!

    They are toying with peoples lives – making things more difficult – and they don’t care. They don’t see real people suffering. Mitch McC makes me ill. Boner I’d like to feed to the sharks!

  90. I almost forgot:

    The geese have been spared for at least another day. I’ll check tomorrow but, from searching around the DNR website, it looks like moving or removing a nest nearly takes an act of Congress. There’s now a wooden barrier between the nest and the concrete steps and the geese have accepted the modification of their neighborhood. The community seems willing to let them stay but the property managers are still worried about liability. I can’t really blame them.

    While I was out taking advantage of the golden twilight for some pictures I had a chat with three other retired single guys and we’re going to propose, along with a tape barrier, taking shifts to shoo people away from the “danger zone” until everyone is with the program. I could use a good excuse to soak up some rays. I also amused a couple more kids by “talking to the geese”. Also, also, I have a great big bag of wild rice and, assuming I can operate without witnesses, I bet that I can buy some goodwill from my feathered friends.

    This whole thing just might work out for the best.


    Why Prosser needed EXACTLY +7500 votes….

    In WI, an automatic recount at state-expense is triggered if an election is within .5%, and we have a fully verifiable paper trail to audit election results. That means in this election with approximately 740k for Kloppenburg and 739k for Prosser, the vote gets recounted at state-expense if the election is within ~7400 votes. …

  92. Shayne, isn’t that convenient for that evil woman to have found that many votes just hanging around?

    If we could pull it off – get one quarter of the country to march on Madison.
    Walker is a cancerous growth.

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