Sunday Roast: After the Rapture


Well, the Rapture didn’t happen.  All the true believers are still here on Earth, and while I’m sure they’re sad about it, their faith will be stronger than ever.  It’s something that’s hard to wrap your mind around, but precisely because the Rapture didn’t happen, the faithful will believe even more — not less.

Festinger’s theory of cognitive dissonance, which predicts that the more we have given and invested in a particular point of view, the less likely we will be to abandon it in the face of contrary evidence. It’s the same cognitive process that kicks in when we are made to behave in ways that are inconsistent with our beliefs; in the face of that disharmony, we often change our beliefs to be congruent with our behaviors and self-perception. Cognitive dissonance is uncomfortable and leads people to seek resolution.

Whaaaa…?  You might be thinking, that doesn’t even make sense…

[S]tudies have found that when people pay more for a bad wine or meal, they are more likely to report that it was tasty, compared with people who paid less for the exact same crappy dinner or drink. No one wants to be a sucker.

Well, there ya go.  People believe stupid stuff; invest a lot of time and energy in stupid stuff; so, instead of cutting their losses and chalking it up to a lesson learned about stupid stuff, they dig in even harder; and the cycle begins again.

I can’t wait to see what Mr Camping has up his sleeve next….

This is our daily open thread — assuming you’re still here, feel free to share what’s on your mind.


84 thoughts on “Sunday Roast: After the Rapture

  1. For any of your friends that truly believed the Rapture was yesterday, you must not tell them they were wrong. On the contrary, tell them they were right. And that God gave up on this entire failed “experiment” of his. (Hard to call it an experiment, since he’s all knowing and knew the outcome before he even started.)

    So, now that they have been forsaken, there’s nothing left for them to do and end the religious wars, and all the other nonsense and make this world a better place to live in for the here and now, rather than viewing (and abusing) it as a layover in another journey.

  2. Thanks lass. I would very well imagine that if God were real, he/she would be all genders, and no gender. All at the same time.

  3. I do feel different today, though … somehow like I don’t have to try so hard to be “good”, “perfect” or whatever. I am heading down to PA to visit family for a few days and one of the standing jokes is,”Oh, I am running late … At the last minute, I needed to re-arrange the pantry alphabetically and realized I was out of garam masala, and of course beginning with a “g”, it kind of threw the project off a bit … yeah, I know … it is only a small space in the cupboard, bit you never know when I am gonna be able to get it in bulk, in which case I have to plan for this expansion … ” It’s either that, or I am late because I can’t find my keys … which is a whole other matter entirely …

    Today, I feel “relieved” of that need to “do it all”; even if this feeling is temporary, I like it … I like it a lot 🙂

    Incidentally, I am running a little late for my am departure this morning for one of the above reasons …

  4. Zxbe, thank you … for always being there knowing the right words to say, exactly when I need to hear them (I admit I happily “cry” when you tell me I’m “cool”!) Hope we can check in with each other while I’m traveling 🙂

    Agreed on the gender neutrality of the one we shall refer to as “God” ~

  5. Thanks again for your well wishes … I feel more relieved that it isn’t my car keys that have misplaced this time; I would still feel better if I discovered my office/farmhouse/p.o./safe deposit/ every clubhouse that has entrusted me with duplicates key carabiner (it is blue, in case anyone has seen it … )

  6. Mitch Daniels’ presidential bid was Raptured and Roger Ailes apparently thinks “Sarah Palin is an idiot,” and “is stupid.” But then he also thinks Obama is a disaster so there’s no accounting for logic with that guy.

  7. Hopefully this will put a smile on your face, badmoodman:

    I was pleased to be able to purchase a strawberry frosted donut with sprinkles (jimmies, if you will…) this am, that after ingesting it five miles down the road, I looked at the gas gauge and said to myself, “Now why doesn’t it show the gas I just paid for. .. D’oh!”

    Yeah, the other folks at the station were cracking up upon my return too ~

  8. Well damn. Wingnuttistan apparently survived the Rapture intact — a fact which I propose to be one more tidbit of absolute proof that there is no God — or at least not one that gives a goddamn (sotospeak) about a whole lot. 😯

    Does this also mean that the world will not be wiped off the map on October 21st? That the 22nd will still happen? Not sure whether that’s good news or bad news. Will have to wait and see what the followup billboards have to say about it, I guess.

  9. Poor bastard:

    In New York, retired transportation agency worker Robert Fitzpatrick was inspired by Camping’s message to spend over $140,000 of his savings on subway posters and outdoor advertisements warning of the May 21 Judgment Day.

    As he stood in Times Square in New York surrounded by onlookers, Fitzpatrick, 60, carried a Bible and handed out leaflets as he waited for Judgment Day to begin.

    By his own reading of Bible, which was slightly different than Camping’s, Fitzgerald expected the great worldwide event to begin at 6 p.m. Eastern Time.

    When the hour came and went, he said: “I do not understand why …,” as his speech broke off and he looked at his watch.

    “I do not understand why nothing has happened.”

    • The Camping rapture fiasco disgusts me.

      This old man has a screw loose and thinks he can predict the next coming — a direct violation of the book he claims to live by — and as a result, the families of a lot of gullible people will suffer. Somehow, I doubt Camping will cough up any of his $72M to help any of them. Personal responsibility, dontcha know.

  10. I would venture a guess that the only thing ‘taken’ will show to be all Mr. Camping’s followers who donated more than $80 million to his cause. I would also venture a guess that come Monday, the only person missing will be Mr. Camping and the dough…

  11. Well it is quite a disappointment that all those assholes haven’t disappeared. It would be so much better if all those idiots weren’t around to vote anymore.

  12. Camping’s organization, Family Radio took in $80 million between 1994-1999. I wonder how much he’s taken in since then..

    CNN reports that IRS filings have the Family Radio worth $72 million but that it’s almost all tied up in licenses. Apparently they only have $1.5 million in cash as of 2009..

    “Most of the group’s net worth is tied up in FCC broadcasting licenses, valued at $56 million. Family Radio claimed it held only $1.5 million in cash on its books at the end of 2009.”

    This article says Camping has never taken a penny in salary. I have trouble buying that. The article then says this:

    “What the 2009 IRS filings don’t show, is how the organization’s donations and expenses may have changed during 2010 and leading up to the May 21 Judgment Day prediction.
    In the last few months, Family Radio billboards have popped up across the country. And the group purchased RVs to drive around the country on its evangelizing missions.
    Those expenses could have changed their financial picture, but since Family Radio doesn’t have to turn in their next IRS filing until November, it may not even matter.
    “If people donating to this group think the world is ending on Saturday, then I’m not sure that they care,” Styron said.”

    If this guy snookered all those people into believing the world was about to end, and they knew they couldn’t take their money with them and they would have no more need for their money where they were going, how much do you think this guy got out of all of them in the days leading up to this “rapture’ event?

    This guy will be long gone come Monday. You watch and see.

  13. Plus how many of these suckers sent in cash that just disappeared? Plenty I’m sure.

  14. Camping will Rapture himself to a non-extradition Carribean island with a plastic Anna-Nicole Smith wanna-be to cater to him every whim.

  15. The Rapture came,
    And the Rapture went;
    We’re earthly bound,
    Like wet cement.

    What went wrong?
    Did God forget?
    Was He outside smoking
    A cigarette?

    The end is nigh,
    The billboards say,
    Get thee prepared
    For Judgment Day!

    But none were lifted
    To the sky
    While “true believers”
    Wondered why.

    “He tests your faith!”
    The preacher’s say,
    “Tribulation is not
    Far away!”

    “Give all you have
    And give some more!
    Lest God’s wrath
    On you be sore!”

    And “true believers”
    ’round the earth,
    Give to the preacher
    Their net worth.

    The Rapture came,
    The Rapture went,
    But none on Earth
    Were Heaven sent.

    All left behind,
    Now penniless,
    Forsaken ones,
    Now in distress.

    What’s the moral
    Of this tale?
    Ignore the preacher,
    And drink your ale.

    False prophets come,
    False prophets go,
    Beguiling folks
    With tales of woe.

    “Hellfire! Brimstone!
    All are damned!
    Give me your money,
    ‘Tis God’s demand!”

    Learn to discern;
    Pay Wisdom’s Price,
    Having been fooled once,
    Ne’er make it twice.

    God’s mysteries won’t
    Be revealed,
    By preacher’s whose greed
    Lies concealed.

    But in a flower,
    The seed therein:
    Nature and God;
    Love, begin.

  16. I was Raptured last night…….

    … in the third minute of stoppage time, Jeff Parke directed a sublime header from a corner into the Kansas goal, handing Sounders a 1-0 win at the last gasp.

  17. We were on the, open air, seventh level of a public parking garage – watching the Peregrines zipping about in the air.
    We told them to find a building and stay there – that thousands of earthbound bi-peds may be ascending.

    To our surprise, not really, the only thing in the air at six p.m.: the juvenile peregrines and airplanes. We observed no one ascending in the air – we had a great view, this being a valley and our perch above.

  18. Disingenuity (the politeway of saying it) all around about Obama’s speech on the ME and on Israel/Palestine….

    Obama restates the policy of the last three American presidents and reiterates the basic statement of the UN resolutions going back to the 1967 six day war which Israel is *still* flagrantly violating….. and he’s ‘palling with terrorists’ again…

    And has any American news outlet stated that the 1967 border statement + land swaps for security *is* the basis of the said UN resolutions? Does any American news outlet say anything about Israel’s disregard for UN resolutions? Last country that did that got invaded and the leader lynched….. wonder why Israel is different?

    Robert Fisk (at the risk of repeating) from Friday:

  19. “And has any American news outlet stated that the 1967 border statement + land swaps for security *is* the basis of the said UN resolutions?”

    Quote of the Day:

    About the “1967 lines” Obama repeats the bleeding obvious today to AIPAC:

    “If there’s a controversy, then, it’s not based in substance. What I did on Thursday was to say publicly what has long been acknowledged privately. I have done so because we cannot afford to wait another decade, or another two decades, or another three decades, to achieve peace. The world is moving too fast. The extraordinary challenges facing Israel would only grow. Delay will undermine Israel’s security and the peace that the Israeli people deserve.”

  20. And did you see the Dominionistas commenting on the article, BMM? Here’s Mike’s Huckabee’s and Bible Spice’s position on this whole thing:

    God’s plan as foretold in the Book of Revelation is that the Rapture will not occur until the Jewish people reclaim the land that God promised his special people. That is why the United States must support Israel no matter what it decides to do. The Jews are God’s favorite people. Not the Arabs. Jesus will not return in the sky to earth and Christians will not be taken up into the air until the Jews retake all the lands given to them by God. Israel now owns most of the land. With continued settlements and a program to drive out the remaining Palestinians we are that much closer to the beginning of the end of the world. It is God’s will that America support Israel. God is directing us to oppose any peace process that trades land for security. God will deal with Arabs who falsely think they can use force to take lands away from God’s chosen people. The end of the world is near and Christians everywhere must elect leaders who see this sacred vision and plan of God

    Posted By: naksuthin | May 22, 2011 at 11:27 AM

    “Gott Mit Uns” was on every Wehrmacht belt buckle…….

  21. Herman Cain (supposedly viable Teabagger candidate) on where the border should be:

    He added: “Secondly, it’s Israel’s decision, not President Obama’s decision to where the borderline will be.”

    I believe the term for this is: “Lebensraum”

  22. WALLACE: Where do you stand on the right of return?

    CAIN: The right of return? [pause] The right of return?

    WALLACE: The Palestinian right of return.

    CAIN: That’s something that should be negotiated. That’s something that should be negotiated.

    Wallace then helpfully offered Cain a definition of “right of return” — “Palestinian refugees, the people that were kicked out of the land in 1948, should be able to or should have any right to return to Israeli land.”

    Cain again showed his lack of knowledge, veering completely off his pro-Likud script. “I don’t think they have a big problem with people returning,” Cain said.

  23. WALLACE: Where do you stand on the right of return?

    CAIN: The right of return? [pause] The right of return? As long as they have their receipt, otherwise store credit only.

  24. … It is God’s will that America support Israel. God is directing us to oppose any peace process that trades land for security. God will deal with Arabs who falsely think they can use force to take lands away from God’s chosen people. The end of the world is near and Christians everywhere must elect leaders who see this sacred vision and plan of God.

    Now if only this “god” was real rather than simply a product of the human imagination …

  25. Yes, another ignorant fanatic stepping up to be POTUS……

    “I don’t think they have a problem with people returning…” WTF?

  26. Excellent poem, BnF. Nicely done.

    Zooey, I’ll take a look at the lyrics and see what I can do. I have only the vaguest recollections of ever having heard that song before, which makes it more challenging for me. 🙂

    Scratch Herman Cain and underneath you’ll find Sarah Palin.

    Well, as long as we don’t move Herman Cain and underneath find Sarah Palin. 😀

  27. Greater Israel: Eretz Yisrael

    “True” Zionists believe that there can be no compromise on the borders of Israel, which define a region larger than the current State of Israel, never mind any space in the Gaza Strip or West Bank. In order to fulfill the prophesies of the Christian fundies, Israel would first have to drive out the Palestinians completely and take portions of neighboring states–including that portion of southern Lebanon the IDF controlled for a number of years but had to give back.

    One of the many reasons I am confused by fundies: “The Jews are God’s favorite people. ”

    If this is true, why aren’t all the fundies converting to Judaism? Why did Ann Coulter say that Christians are perfected, unlike Jews?

    And the declarative: “It is God’s will that America support Israel. ”

    Really? Did God write that down somewhere? It must be in the same Book in which Jesus told his disciples how cool capitalism would be, how much his Dad hates fags, and why it’s OK to ignore all those rules about shellfish, pork, and mixed fabrics, ’cause that’s Old School.

  28. TP post headline: Herman Cain Demonstrates Clueslessness …

    Yes. Cain is indeed a definitely legitimate contender for the Republican presidential candidate nomination.

    Also suggests Faiz Shakir pay more attention to his spell Czecher.

  29. To see the universe in a flower
    Each soft petal holding power
    Of the sun’s light, soft and warm
    Giving love a mortal form.

  30. Mass. bill would require divorcing parents to obtain judge’s approval for sex

    There are no more pressing matters in MA?
    What an effing waste of time and energy on the legislatures part.

  31. Mass. bill would require divorcing parents to obtain judge’s approval for sex

    I would think that the judges will appreciate all those 3AM calls. 🙄

  32. Mass. bill would require divorcing parents to obtain judge’s approval for sex

    This will be known as The Morning After Bill.

  33. “In divorce, separation, or 209A proceedings involving children and a marital home, the party remaining in the home shall not conduct a dating or sexual relationship within the home until a divorce is final and all financial and custody issues are resolved, unless the express permission is granted by the courts.” Bill S00851

    Financial and custody battles go on long after the divorce is final.

    Note it’s the one left with the house, not necessarily with the children, who cannot date nor fornicate without prior court approval. This is going to give “Writ of Mandate” a whole new meaning!

    Ironically, this bill does nothing to prevent a married spouse from having an adulterous affair in the home, as long as there’s no divorce, separation or 209a proceeding….

    I can just see a wife telling her philandering husband, “Stay in the house. I’m moving back to my parents and taking the kids. Oh, and if you date or have sex now, I’m going to have you arrested!”

  34. This MA law is even worse than described: “The bill would prevent parents from “conducting a dating or sexual relationship within the home” until the divorce is final. ”

    Dating? That’s vague enough to cover just about anything. If I am at home and call up someone to ask for a date I’m in violation. No sex or actual date required.

    And they’re “debating” this? Did anyone stand up and say, “This is possibly the stupidest and most intrusive bill I’ve ever read?”

  35. I wonder if there’s an address in Mass. where one can apply for the job of PDFD (Pending Divorce Fornication Detector)? I would think it would be a live-in position, 24/7 monitoring being such a huge responsibility and all.

    I also wonder if there is any other place on the planet as sexually fucked up as the USA?

  36. North Minneapolis took a direct hit by a tornado about an hour ago. Not a monster storm, but enough to cut a path of destruction through a mostly residential area. Don’t have exact streets/neighborhoods yet. Mostly older homes, which is good as they tend to be more sturdily built.

    The same storm came through my area before it produced the tornado, and we had an insane amount of rain; so much that we had urban flooding. The main road in our neighborhood was completely flooded for about 20 minutes (as the sewers caught up). I live across from a park, and parts of it are still flooded.

  37. Tribulation, indeed. The Sharks forgot they were in a playoff game. The refs didn’t help, either.

    Canucks 4 Sharks 2 Canucks up 3 games to 1.

    We’ll see what Tuesday brings (besides Whimpie’s payment for a hamburger today).

  38. Zx, are tornadoes rare in MN? They seem to be more numerous this season.
    Just as Spring was arriving in your area – hope the park has good drainage so it doesn’t cross the street your way!

  39. Gummich,
    Thanks for the defense over on TP, I was thinking that I would have to rip a friend apart (Venne) and then Lydia and MrBatty entered the picture.

  40. Zxbe, I’m glad you weren’t in the damage path, I’ve had funnels drop out of storms after they passed over me also. We had a siren warning after lunch but I never did find out where it was. It was a quick moving storm and was out of the area right away. It was still disturbing to hear that siren though.

    Bump day is over! All the ladies made the race! Danica was the last one to get in, having to wait until a track drying was completed, before she had an opportunity to qualify at 3:45pm CDT. She would have been able to try before the first rain, but her car failed tech! Marco Andretti was bumped out with six minutes to go, but was the last car to go out before qualifying ended at 5pm, and was able to bump his way back in. Sad thing was, he bumped his teammate Ryan Hunter Reay out of the race. Pippa Mann and Ana Beatriz were the two slowest speeds to get in, but their runs were in the early afternoon while speeds were down somewhat, and the guys ran out of time before any more fast times could be posted. Danica had fastest lap of the day, but was second fastest in four lap average. Still, two Andretti cars, Hunter-Reay and Conway, didn’t make the race, lacking adequate speed for some odd reason.

  41. Ebb, I checked on the Sharks in the first period when it was still no score, then they next time I looked they were down 3-0 in the second. They were on NBC here, but I bet you were blacked out, since you live so close.

  42. Speaking of whistleblowers.
    Tuesday May 24, Frontline tells the full story of Julian Assange, Bradley Manning and the biggest intelligence breach in US history.

    Last week’s Frontline, about the Meth epidemic, has a lot about Portland and included reports by Steve Suo of the Oregonian newspaper. I know it’s not a pretty subject, but Portland apparently has led the way in suppressing meth production. There’s a lot about how Big Pharma lobbyists fought the very laws needed to be most effective. I watched part of it early this morning when I woke up and couldn’t go right back to sleep.

  43. Phew, Sunday is almost done….. not looking forward to getting up and doing it again.

  44. “Oh dear…Obama’s Orwellian Turn: Whistle-Blowing=Treason” ~Zooey.

    Our Witch1 got this right a couple of years ago regarding Obama.

    Obama will get reelected.

    But I won’t vote for him.

  45. That storm in Missouri and Northern Arkansas still looks dangerous.

  46. House,
    I noticed that myself. I am off to bed now. I hope that I can sleep.

  47. BnF: Obama will get reelected. But I won’t vote for him.

    I’ll vote for him. There is, so far, no alternative that’s anything better than a hundred times worse than Obama could ever be.

    If I were thirty years younger I’d get the hell out of this country, and fast. New Zealand maybe — furthest place possible that still has vestiges of civilization.

  48. I hope you can too, Walt. I was up twice before I stayed up to watch the early F1 race. I should have crashed by now.

  49. Frugal, I have given the NZ idea some thought, in the past. There are certainly enough sheep for my dog to play with … It seems like I might miss where I live now too much though … 🙂

  50. Harold Camping ‘flabbergasted’; rapture a no-show

    The man who said the world was going to end appeared at his front door in Alameda a day later, very much alive but not so well.

    “It has been a really tough weekend,” said Harold Camping, the 89-year-old fundamentalist radio preacher who convinced hundreds of his followers that the rapture would occur on Saturday at 6 p.m.

    “I’m looking for answers,” Camping said, adding that meant frequent prayer and consultations with friends.

    “But now I have nothing else to say,” he said, closing the door to his home. “I’ll be back to work Monday and will say more then.”

  51. Mr./Pastor Camping has another prophecy about the end of the world or the rapture. He says the supposed recent rapture will actually happen in October (21?) this year. I never believed all this nonsense. I’m sorry for all his believers. All I can say is: “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. – Mark 13:32

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