Sunday Roast: Doctor Who

Last night’s Doctor Who cliff-hanger finale, Let’s Kill Hitler, was awesome, but came with its own twists and turns.  Like DW fans didn’t expect that!

This is our daily open thread — you can chat about things
other than Doctor Who, if you must.

114 thoughts on “Sunday Roast: Doctor Who

  1. All of you in the Northeast just be careful. Irene is a killer storm. I’m right now watching footage from Long Beach and it is scary.

  2. Thanks for your concerned comments EV. Here in PA, we are in the tail end of the storm. It is still raining but the severe downpour has passed. There is still some gusty winds. I’m grateful to have power this morning. I’m surprised at how much of punch inland is coming from Irene. The sun should be shining at around 3:00 ET.

    Yes, Happy Zooniversary.

    • Irene is now a tropical storm.

      Schneiders, Lass, and Witch1, check in soon as you can, and let us know how you’re doing.

      • Happy Zooanniversary All!

        Rain and wind are beginning to pick up a little bit here; still have power for now. Did a Connecticut River driveby about an hour ago ~ the NOAA river gauges are reporting moderate above flood stage nearby; My bones tell me crest will happen, if at all, @ 2am “ish” …

        May all of the other Zoosters and Critters be safe and sound ~

  3. On This Week’s roundtable, George Will surprises me in his assessment of Cheney’s book.

    “565 pages and a simple apology would have been in order in some of them. Which is to say, the great fact of those eight years was, we went to war, big war, costly war, under false pretenses. And to write a memoir in which you say essentially nothing seriously went wrong, if I wrote a memoir of my last week, I would have things to apologize for.”

    Cheney always reminded me of an old supervisor of mine i had when I was just a kid, who explained why I should always do things the way he told me, by saying “I may make a mistake, but I’m never wrong”. He meant, ‘do it my way and I’ll take the responsibility and hold you harmless if things don’t work out right’. And he always did.
    Cheney wants the same loyalty, but never was willing to accept the blame for what went wrong.

  4. I posted a picture of the still standing hornets’ nest that withstood torrential downpours and 50 mph wind gusts. Apologies for not having a closer shot of the nest. I don’t have the best equipment.

  5. I’m never entirely sure that Faux News is preying on the credulity and ignorance of their audience or whether the people working there are just as fucking stupid.

    As Hurricane Irene bears down on the East Coast, news stations bombard our televisions with constant updates from the National Hurricane Center.

    While Americans ought to prepare for the coming storm, federal dollars need not subsidize their preparations. Although it might sound outrageous, the truth is that the National Hurricane Center and its parent agency, the National Weather Service, are relics from America’s past that have actually outlived their usefulness.

    Faux claims
    they’ve outlived their usefulness because private companies have picked up the slack. Do they really not understand that the private services get all of their information from the NWS? Can they truly be that stupid?

      • I now own her album, her EP and a bonus cut from her Facebook page. Very eclectic but definitely and my god what a voice she has. Very powerful, especially on the rock-y songs.

        Not many people can pull off this cover:

        • No glitz, no glamour, which lets people focus on the talent.

          Lady Gaga’s got huge talent, but her shitck is getting tiresome, which takes away from her talent.

  6. A reminder to Ron Paul humpers:

    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

  7. Ron Paul Calls for Spending Cuts Before Hurricane Relief

    [Chris Wallace]: “I assume if the Obama administration comes and asks for a emergency funding bill for FEMA, you’re a definite no?” Wallace pressed.

    [Ron Paul]: “Where would the money come from?” Paul said, again laughing. “We don’t have any money… I would consider what I just said. I have precise beliefs in what we should do and I want to transition out of dependency on the federal governent.” … “We’ve conditioned our people that FEMA will take care of us and everything will be OK. But you try to make these programs work the best you can. You can’t just keep saying, ‘Oh, they need money.’ We’re out of money. The country is bankrupt.”

    I think it’s time to DOUBLE the tax rate on the rich, bring it up to 70%. The rate worked well when Kennedy reduced it to 70, should work equally well when we raise it to 70.

    Fact is, I’m getting goddamned sick of rich fucks bitching about paying their fair share, and I think it’s high time to nail the bastards to their golden crosses. Bring this country back before there’s nothing left to bring back.

  8. .
    It is that time of year to drag this goody out of the closet – Happy Anniversary!

    This animal is a friend of mine
    From the tip of his nose to his funny behind
    All the friends that we met today
    Are special in their own way
    We’ve all got different names
    But we’re really all the same
    Thanks for dropping by
    We’re glad you came
    These animals are friends of mine
    They jump and swim, crawl, fly and climb
    One more thing we have to say,
    Go make an animal friend today! Yeah!

    • Here’s Bush’s ‘photo op’ from his ‘ranch’ in Texas while on vacation being briefed by Max Mayfield at NOAA about the extent of damage to expect from Katrina, laying it out the day before the storm hit. Bush was fully briefed. He was warned. He didn’t ask a single question. The briefing was by video conferencing.
      The amazing level of destruction and devastation, the total lack of action, the level of incompetence displayed from the President on down, the utter lack of true compassion or sincerity shown by Bush in the days that followed Katrina squarely hangs around President Bush’s neck, and he will have to wear it the rest of his life. The president and his inept cronies, and this idea that it’s not the government’s job to step in in that level of disaster are what are responsible for the aftermath of Katrina. They knew, they did nothing. They didn’t care. Politics were also in play. They got some great photos though – trying to appear like they were doing something..

      And then there is always the ‘opportunity’ factor. The Shock Doctrine-ization.
      (I don’t anything about these blogs I linked to, they just had the photos I was looking for.)

      • And the proof is in the pudding. The aftermath. How well, on the heels of this huge storm, people are doing their jobs coordinating services, putting it all back together again and giving people the help they need. That is leadership. I like to see a photo of Obama acting like a leader while actually doing his job of BEING a leader. Putting QUALIFIED people in places of importance in a time of crisis (novel concept..) Seeing Obama actually LEADING gives me comfort and reassurance that someone is actually in charge. Our government stepping in when it should, the ‘people’s tax dollars going to work for them. Again, what a novel concept..
        Comparing Obama to Bush is ridiculous. It’s like comparing apples to rocks.

      • That’s one of the things that sticks out most vividly to me — He didn’t ask a single question.

        The intellectual laziness and incuriousness of GWB put psychopaths to shame. Even a psychopath would know that asking a few cursory questions “looks good.”

        There are probably people in Louisiana who give GWB a pass on Katrina to this very day, and that is a huge symptom of the disorganization of our society.

  9. I’ve been trying to find the video of MLK Jr’s “I Have a Dream” speech online, and everything I have found has been taken down for copyright issues.


    • .
      The horse trader who had no business being in charge of peoples lives AND
      Formaldehyde boy Bush?

      The Federal Emergency Management Agency since early 2006 has suppressed warnings from its own field workers about health problems experienced by hurricane victims living in government-provided trailers with levels of a toxic chemical 75 times the recommended maximum for U.S. workers, congressional lawmakers said yesterday.

    • The moments that stand out for me with Bush’s response, was “Brownie, you’re doing a heckuva job….”,

      and when Bush swooped into Jackson Square to address the nation (saying they would “do what it takes” to make the city rise from the waters) – with all those generators and lights trucked in. As soon as he was done speaking, they unplugged their lights and loaded up those generators, and headed out of town leaving the area once again in darkness. Pictures worth a thousand words.

        • Frank Rich writes about this staged event in his book “The Greatest Story Ever Sold“.

          “This time the pretty venue was New Orlean’s Jackson Square, and in an echo of his Top Gun theatrics, Bush was televised taking a laughably stagy stride across the lawn to his lectern. (Message: I am commander in chief, not that vacationing slacker who first surveyed the hurricane damage from my presidential jet.) The president was once again bathed in florid theatrical lighting, reminiscent of his oration before the Statue of Liberty on 9/11’s first anniversary. Yet the French Quarter was deserted, and the monument chosen to frame Bush this time, St. Louis Cathedral, was so brightly lighted that it registered on-screen like a two-dimensional Mittel Europa castle painted on a backdrop for a nineteenth-century operetta. Once the speech was over, residents were eager to tell reporters how the White House stage managers immediately pulled the plug on the special generators that supplied the president’s visual halo, thereby plunging the abandoned city back into darkness”.

  10. It’s been 4 years at the Zooniversity already?
    Do I get a degree?

    Oh, Zooniversary
    Little wonder I’m a bachelor eh?

  11. .

    Obama On Hurricane Recovery: ‘This Is Not Over’

    (CNN) — President Barack Obama said Sunday that the recovery from Hurricane Irene could be long.
    Affected East Coast residents still are at risk of power outages and flooding, he said.
    “We continue to have search and rescue personnel on alert,” the president said.

  12. My husband found this little ditty…

    Every governor, that is ALL 50, have applied for this federal grant. That would include, Rick Perry, Rick Scott, Kasich, Walker, Corbett, and Christi, just to name a few. So far, I haven’t heard any of these governors complain about asking for federal money. Ron Paul, Paul Ryan, Michele Bachmann, Marco Rubio, and Pat Toomey have not spoken out against accepting this federal money. Just more dirty, little secrets that the GOPers don’t want us to know.

  13. As a child of 4 in 1959 I experienced a hurricane in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
    It uprooted and blew over the big willow tree in the front yard, my tree house was smashed to flinders.
    I was devastated.

    Sometimes a tree house is just a tree house.
    Other times not…

    • There are plenty of assholes farting the same toot, including some cow at the WaPo. I’m flabbergasted by the callous disappointment that too few people died, along with the failure to notice the real damage of the storm. Four million people without power? Who cares? Massive flooding in the NE? Eh, if they don’t work in DC they simply don’t count.

      And then, of course, insane morons like Ron Paul who claim that things were better when the streets of Galveston were piled with corpses, too many to bury. Better dead than fed, I guess.

  14. U.S. Cities Criminalize Homelessness, Violate Human Rights Agreements

    Catarina de Albuquerque, a U.N. Special Rapporteur on the Human Right to Water and Sanitation, visited the United States in late February at the invitation of the U.S. government.
    She found homeless individuals around the country not only struggle to access running water and restroom facilities but increasingly face criminal and civil sanctions when they improvise solutions.

    The right to safe drinking water and restroom facilities is a part of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. The U.N. report’s findings detail just a few of the ways that U.S. cities and counties are failing to meet these obligations because of how they opt to deal with homelessness, said Eric Tars, human rights program director at the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty.

    It shouldn’t be a crime to be poor, but more and more in this country, it is.

    • Before Social Security, it was a crime to be poor. It was easy to poor, seniors into institutions, like the “poor house”. Many children ended up in orphanages only because their parent(s) were poor.

  15. President Obama: ‘This Is Not Over’

    Speaking from the White House Rose Garden under a clear sky, President Obama said Sunday that while Hurricane Irene has weakened to a depression, “I want people to understand that this is not over.”

    Appearing besides Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and FEMA chief Craig Fugate, Obama warned that “many Americans are still at serious risk of power outages and flooding.” He added that recovery efforts may go on for several weeks or longer as local and federal officials confront those challenges.

    “This has been an exemplary effort of how good government at every level should be responsive to peoples’ needs,” Obama said.

    How refreshing.

    At this point after Katrina, Chimpy wouldn’t have a thing to say about it for a week.

    • The trolls are all over the local paper whining about how the storm was “hyped up” and it was all just a plot to make the media and the president look like they are relevant. It got so bad that they closed the comments. It’s bad enough when things get personal discussing a story about Batscat Bachmann but one would hope that they would show some restraint discussing a weather event that has killed at least 14 people, driven thousands from their homes, caused property damage for hundreds of thousands, and inconvenienced millions with power outages and travel problems.

      Sigh… Instead, a story that should be bringing out the best in people, is being used as a bludgeaon

    • While people were dying and seeking shelter during hurricane Katrina, the boy Bush was celebrating John McCain’s birthday. It took 4 days for the boy Bush to respond to the people of Louisiana and Mississippi.

  16. Two kids that need their butts kicked up around their ears:

    Raised in a $1.5 million Barrington Hills home by their attorney father, two grown children have spent the last two years pursuing a unique lawsuit against their mom for “bad mothering” damages allegedly caused when she failed to buy toys for one and sent another a birthday card he didn’t like.

    The alleged offenses include failing to take her daughter to a car show, telling her then-7-year-old son to buckle his seat belt or she would contact police, “haggling” over the amount to spend on party dresses and calling her daughter at midnight to ask that she return home from celebrating homecoming.

    Two things:
    1) I hope they have children just like them; and
    2) Daddy was one of their lawyers, and he ought to be disciplined by the Bar.

    • So if one of my kids tried to leap off the roof because he believed that he possessed the flying abilities of Superman, I should have let him go ahead in order to avoid damaging his psyche and suffering a future lawsuit?


      Was I that wrong in bringing up my kids?

  17. One of our favorite towns to visit when we vacation in the Catskills (yearly event) is Margaretville. We have fished this stream when it was at its normal level. This is the East Branch of the Delaware River. This video brings tears to my eyes.

  18. .
    I’m sickened reading those who write it was a bunch of hype.
    My suggestion: in a day or two, take those folks around, town to town, to assist those cleaning up after a flood. The ‘it’s all hype’ people don’t get to wear wellies or gloves…let them muck-in and clean! That will get their attention as to what is and isn’t hype.

    • And this is the country where a bake sale or barn or home raising was a neighborhood event for a family struck by disaster be it large or small?

      The first three words of the Constitution should be changed to “We the privileged”

  19. I wonder who handed out the talking point cards, every local paper I’ve read today has several commenters behaving as though this hurricane was some sort of hyped up event staged by folks trying to make Obama appear presidential. At least one moron swore that if he remained in his home against advice and a tree crushed it and cracked his head, he would not call 911 but would take personal responsibility for his injuries. The right wing has gone completely freaking insane.
    Meanwhile, 75% of Richmond and environs lost power. My long time BFF has two trees on her house and both ends of their road are impassable. I want to grab some of these partisan morons and scream “What is wrong with you? Real people have suffered real damage and you think it’s some sort of socialist plot to grow government.”

    • Fux has distributed the talking points, and the sheep are out there bleating. It’s really quite astonishing that these people behave this way. They really have lost what it means to be American.

      Good luck to the moran when his head gets cracked. His neighbors will have his body hauled off…eventually.

      • Yeah, people used to be proud of the ways their community pulled together to meet emergencies. I suspect some of these folk would prefer to let the free market buzzards eat their corpse rather than accept help from a neighbor.

    • .
      Round ’em up Outstanding, put them to work on clearing up!
      It would be nice if the media kept at the flood aspect – showing it receding and the mess it leaves. Keep at it until the nuts get a clue that no matter what Irene was called – devastation is devastation.

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