The Watering Hole: Wednesday, September 28, 2011: It’s Five O’Clock Somewhere!

It’s nearly 11:00 p.m. and I’m finally wrapping up work for the day. But, what the heck, it’s five o’clock somewhere!

In my profession, it’s always “places to go, people to sue.” Some of us wear the white hats, some wear the black hats. Some change hats as circumstances dictate. For me, I slay dragons…with the pen. ‘Tis mighter than the sword, after all.

Of course, slaying dragons is just a figure of speech. Those who believe in Dragon Magick aren’t exactly into seeing those magnificent beasties killed.

“I read the news today, oh boy…about a lucky man who made the grade.” Nothing’s changed much in the past 50 or so years since that song came out. Gotten uglier on the political scene, that’s for sure. But I wonder, is it really uglier? What about the castle intrigues of Medieval times? Those machinations that inspired Machieavelli to write “The Prince”…a primer on how to rule and keep one’s head for as long as possible, always knowing that someone, sooner or latter, would be plotting to remove it for you. Are things uglier now, or are we just seeing those machinations…all that dirty laundry…aired in public?

Actually, I think it’s both. And I think as ugly as things are, we’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

The other morning, I stepped outside at dawn, and a mockingbird flew to a nearby tree and began to serenade me. Soon a hummingbird approached and lit on a branch near the mockingbird, listening. A hummingbird…busy as those little birds are, always flitting from flower to flower, stopped, just to listen to the music for awhile.

There’s a lesson in that for all of us.

THIS IS OUR OPEN THREAD. CARE TO SHARE ANY LIFE’S LESSONS YOU’VE LEARNED?

166 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: Wednesday, September 28, 2011: It’s Five O’Clock Somewhere!

  1. According to my browser history, I slept about five hours. I would be up when the only places that are open to get food are IHOP and Waffle House. I’m not going there. (Notice I didn’t even mention Krystal.)

    The Hotmail/Yahoo/AOL commenting problem seems to be fixed at TP finally. I made a comment and the comment count advanced one, so it should be visible.

    There’s no decent talk radio at this hour. Bill Press doesn’t come on until 5am central. KPOJ has Alan Colmes, on delay, and I can’t listen to the overnight Faux crowd pwn him one call after the other.

  2. My life lesson: Never trust a man that doesn’t like dogs.
    Likewise if the dog doesn’t like a man, the dog is trying to tell you something.

    • This reminds me of the little pseudo bar sign, only found in the homes of drinkers, that says “never trust a man who doesn’t drink.”
      πŸ˜‰
      My life lesson:
      “Trust people to likely do what they have demonstrated they are capable of doing.”

    • There are three kinds of cat people:

      People who like cats.
      People whom cats like.
      People who are like cats.

      These are not mutually exclusive cat-egories. I seem to partake, in some significant measure, of all three. Not, it is to be noted, because of my cat-like reflexes, but because of my cat-like moods.

  3. Good Morning, BnF and all..Good post as always…Busy here in NH, and fall is in the air…I was reflecting this morning and the song Changes by David Bowie came to mind…All the changes I see are like a rewind on a DVD player..Watching the marchers on Wall Street is a reminder of what my life experiences have been to date..From the 50’s forward we marched & protested to achieve our goals…Every thing is going in circles or repeats of what we have always done..I wonder if in another 50 or 100 years our words will be read and different, newer changes will be needed & achieved the same way..

    Times do change but history do’s repeat it’s self with each generation…With luck I will see more good changes..Perhaps one more move back to Montana is on our horizon.

    Peace, Blessings & Joy to you all as you march through today’s changes….

  4. Mornin’ all! Nice to read you WitchyOne!

    I seem to remember a quote ‘nothing new under the sun’, BnF.

    I’ve read some interesting articles the past few days by old school moderate republicans, decrying the new breed of anti-politicians who are ruining the legislative process and rules that governed our governance for the past two hundred years.
    Hope that the election of 2012 gives voters a chance to express some buyers remorse over the teabagging hicks that have no concept of ‘governance’, American style. (hint..the word compromise isn’t always a dirty word.)

  5. Good morning.

    Are things uglier or are we just more informed? It seems like modern, instant, communication is a revolution we humans have not yet mastered. Even while we revel in inspiring stories from distant lands we are also shocked by the latest outrage, spread around the world at the speed of light.

    In earlier eras we were insulated by time and distance. Events in other places were more like fantasy than “news” and that news was weeks, months, or years removed by the time it reached us; if it reached us at all. In the modern world we are bombarded by images of strife and suffering and, because it’s happening in real time, our emotional buttons get pushed.

    • Good point Pete! Things back in the “olden” days of the past were probably just as ugly back then as they are today but as you said, we are just more informed.

      People were indeed insulated by time and distance in earlier eras and depended on the radio and the same corporate owned print media we have today.

      We are bombarded by many images, words, emotions today. I believe that is what has made the people of our country and world change…for good and bad. But still the constant bombardment of these images, words and emotions are, in my opinion meant to purposely distract, divide and manipulate us or those who choose to be manipulated.

      I look at how the government and media preyed on our fears, sorrow, loss
      and shock after 9/11. How they bombarded us with the images day after day,
      24/7 for many months and years. Meanwhile as our nation was in mourning and as we were thrown into two wars, Wall Street pulled off the greatest theft known to mankind, but nobody paid attention, we were all too busy being bombarded with 9/11 and caught up in the typical left/right paradigm.

      As long as we are bombarded with hate and fears of each other and those different than ourselves, we will continue to be a nation divided and a nation divided will eventually fall, because those doing the dividing or are behind it, will succeed in pushing their sinister agenda and that is what we are seeing today as we steadily move towards corporatism and fascism in this country.

    • I don’t know, any time spent on some blogs like Huff post or Aol, and all you get is the gossip that one might get from chatting over the fence or at the barber shop in the small town that one lived in. Cities were always busy and “more dangerous” than rural living and there was usually a war going on somewhere, no matter where one lived. People were enslaved by their circumstances as they are now. And rulers were both attracted to and abused power. There were good people doing good things for others, but it never seems to be enough.

      No, I don’t things have changed very much at all since the beginning of man (or woman) beginning to walk upright or gain self-awareness.

      • It’s an evolution thing, I’m thinking. Humans are supposed to be “intelligent” according to the evolution baseline, but in fact few are (Zoo members excepted, of course), and therefore the beat goes on. Religion, war, prejudice, irrational hatred, trailer parks, coal mines, the GOP — all proceed unabated via positive input from the collective human penthouse which remains, thru today, largely unfurnished (google Michele Bachmann and/or Rick Perry for details).

        The big questions remain: will evolution manage to keep up by demanding more penthouse refurbishment, or will it not get there before the species destroys itself and the biosphere because of its inborn and inbred shallowness of intellect? Or will random chance intervene and bring about an uplift prior to the end?

        Vamos aver. We shall see.

  6. Interesting article on the NY Wall St protesters today at MSNBC,
    In response to being tagged as anti-democratic, the poster retorts, What we have now is not a democracy! Our elected representatives represent the corporate interests that fund their re-election campaigns. We want DEMOCRACY! Where our ELECTED representatives REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS.

    Spot on.

    • Very spot on! What we are living in is an illusion that our vote matters. Sure our vote can keep a fascist out of congress or another nut job out of the White House but really…do things really change that much?

      A majority of Americans wanted single payer health care, did we get it…A majority of people today want to raise taxes on the wealthy, has it been done yet…A majority of Americans want us to leave Iraq and Afghanistan, have we left yet? A majority of Americans wanted real credit card reform, did we get it? A majority of Americans wanted real financial reform, did we get it?

      As evil and pro-corporation as the republicans are the democrats also must serve these same artificial, man made entities. Our vote just makes us feel like we have an option to change things. All of us who voted for Obama believed in hope and change, but the powers that be, those who really run and control our government will not allow the changes needed to take place because it may hurt their interests and profit margins.

      To me DC is all a scripted game where one side says one thing to inflame the other side and their supporters and than the other side responds to equally inflame their opponent while stirring up their own base.

      When these puppets vote on important bills, they will eventually vote to support a bill that helps their constituents ONLY when they are assured that the vote will fail.

      It’s all a game. Citizens United has changed this country forever. It is very telling when not one or two democrats have even spoken out loudly about the Supreme Court decision, and to try and get that decision revoked by some legislation…if they could do that.

      We are phucked….sorry it’s too early to be positive. πŸ˜‰

  7. Palin threatens to sue Joe McGinniss’s publisher for defaming her in The Rogue (Insert your own joke about how it’s even possible to defame the grifter.)

    Please do, Sarah. Has she ever heard of discovery in a trial? She’d have to go under oath and take a DNA test about Trig.

  8. Proof that with a bit of money behind it, you can make anything up, get people to believe it and seem real. Just ask Gene Roddenberry, Joseph Smith, Saul of Tarsus and L. Ron Hubbard….

    Oh and if you look hard enough in today’s Mail, you can see Scarlett Johanssen’s bum – it’s very, very nice… might have to watch Lost in Translation again – just the first scene…

  9. When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful, a miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical.
    And all the birds in the trees, well they’d be singing so happily, joyfully, playfully watching me.
    But then they sent me away to teach me how to be sensible, logical, responsible, practical.
    And they showed me a world where I could be so dependable, clinical, intellectual, cynical.

    Now watch what you say or they’ll be calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal …

    –From “The Logical Song” by Supertramp from the “Breakfast In America” album.

    • Because it would be bad for the oil and gas business if they didn’t maintain their own safety practices. /snark

      (Never mind the fact that no one has been held accountable for the death of the men on the BP drilling platform or in the Massey mine.)

    • WTF is wrong with that guy. The point of becoming a US Senator is not to hold up every new law being proposed. The US Senate needs to get its collective head out of its giant ass and change the rules so that legislation supported by 99% of the Senate can’t be held up indefinitely by one asshole.merely by saying “I object” to a motion to consider the bill. I’m okay with, say, a two-week delay so that the Senator can prepare a filibuster speech to try to persuade the other Senators not to vote for something, but two weeks is long enough considering how long it takes to get things through the Senate (normally). But the filibuster has to be a real one, meaning the Senator has to stand on the floor and talk. I understand the need to have some mechanism to prevent “the tyranny of the majority” and all that, but the rules can;t be so easy to abuse as to be entirely painless.. Right now, the Republicans are paying nothing, no penalty of any kind, for their obstructionism. And the “anti-Government” ones (both Pauls) should be run out of government if they hate it so much. Why the fuck is Ron Paul getting any support to be president of a country he doesn’t want to have to govern?

    • Back in the seventies (I think that’s when) the governor of Arizona, Jack Williams, recorded a regular little tidbit that was played pretty much daily by several local radio stations. He always ended it by saying, “It’s a beautiful day in Arizona. Leave us all enjoy it.”

      He was a Republican. Obviously.

  10. Things are not as bad as they once were. Starving peasants would be hung if they were caught killing a rabbit or any other food source on the King’s or Lord’s land. It still amazes me that the peasants were able to overthrow the kings/czars/dictators. What makes matters so bad now is the gossipy 24/7 news. Dr. Weil recommends turning off the news once a week as a means for improving health. The hummingbird knew a good thing when it heard it. Great post, BnF.

    • Unfortunately, it took the Black Death to kill of 1/3 of us and give us some leverage over the Barons.

      When their lawns, toilets and burger joints are unkempt, rancid and… rancid respectively… then we might be able to get back in the game.

    • We happen to live about fifty crow miles from Rocky Ford Colorado where the recent Listeria in cantaloupe scourge began. Curiously enough, our little farmer’s market supplier is also from Rocky Ford, and we ate their delicious cantaloupe for six straight weeks with zero ill effects. Food contamination problems are obviously not universal, but it sure wouldn’t hurt to strengthen government inspection and regulation routines rather than weaken or destroy them as the GOP would likely recommend.

      Sometimes greed-induced political ignorance becomes a bit much.

    • I thought the Constitution stated that there will be a postal service, not that there will be a *profitable* postal service. Why do Republicans hate America?

      • Why doesn’t America hate Republicans? I mean, they’re out to destroy everything that’s ever been done to make this country worth something, and people still elect them? Absolutely unreal. Kinda like if sheep kept voting for wolves as their leaders.

      • So much for their professed reverence for the Founding Fathers. Wasn’t the post office started by Ben Franklin?

        Since the Repubs get so much support from rural areas, why would they think that major cuts at USPS would work to their benefit?

        • Clusterf*** Nation took on the subject on Monday

          gummitch’s point is well-taken – what else is left of small towns when you take away their ability to use the mail – why should UPS of or Fedex waster their time on these people – especially if there’s no profit in it?

          Questions you won’t hear asked of Teabaggers:

          “Thomas Paine started a revolution with his pamphlets delivered by mail across the Colonies. In a world where the East India Companies of today control your ability to communicate – how do you get your Party started…?”

  11. All Things Considered ran a piece last evening on “job creators” that should be required reading/listening for every Republican in the country. If they could only read. Or comprehend.

    There are too many tidbits for me to quote; read the entire transcript (or listen online).

    • Depends on which ‘job creators’ the Repubs are talking about at any moment: the millionaire’s who are ‘job creators’ and must not be taxed.
      Or the small business ‘job creators’ as discussed/debunked by Professor Wolfers!

      The Repugnant Party seldom uses Common Sense so sees no flawed reasoning in what they do.

  12. Bachmann delivers evangelical message at Liberty U

    “Even though I hadn’t been a drinker, even though I never did drugs, … even though I hadn’t been chasing around, it didn’t matter. I was a sinner,” she said. “I radically abandoned myself to Jesus Christ.”

    Liberty’s chancellor, Jerry Falwell Jr., said Bachmann won a recent student straw poll over the GOP field, largely because of her evangelical roots.

    • I’m starting to think she’s gunning for a career in televangelism. Marion “Pat” Robertson can’t live forever and there’s a lot more money to be made in scamming “true Believers” than a paltry government job, and farm subsidies, and campaign contributions and…

      Come to think of it; she might just try and suck on the public teat a while longer.

    • Wow! I just noticed that attendance at Crazy Shelly’s speech was mandatory. If we had been required to attend a political speech, waaaay back when I was in school, we probably would have rioted.

        • I hadn’t considered that option. According to Wiki:

          In 2010, students at Liberty University received approximately $445 million in federal financial aid money, the highest total of any school in Virginia and one of the highest in the country.[44] The total, a 56 per cent increase over the prior year, was mostly in the form of student loans, but also included some grants and other forms of aid.[44]

          I’m tempted to fire off a few emails and find out if they can make attendance mandatory, at a political rally, without federal entanglements.

  13. Have I become so cynical that I am overly suspicious?
    I just read this on TP concerning Alabama’s new anti-immigrant laws:
    “Every public elementary and secondary school in this state, at the time of enrollment in kindergarten or any grade in such school, shall determine whether the student enrolling in public school was born outside the jurisdiction of the United States or is the child of an alien not lawfully present in the United States and qualifies for assignment to an English as Second Language class or other remedial program.”
    I also just got a registration form from son’s school for us to update his registration. It was obviously intended for students just entering the school system, asking basic info and things like where you went to school before coming here. One entire page was questions like “When did you enter the US?”, “What is the primary language in your home?”, questions that would only apply to an immigrant, but no direct citizenship question. My son has been registered in our school system since he started school and all they wanted at that time was a birth certificate and proof of residence. I think it smells like someone trying to smoke out the children of undocumented immigrants like Alabama.

  14. WARNING! I’m going to channel Batscat Bachmann. I have friends to watch out for me and medication close at hand. I’ll be fine.

    Bachmann: “What I would like to see is our press to do a penetrating examination of these religious schools. Find out if they are Constitutional or Unconstitutional. How many federal dollars do they use to indoctrinate young people into unamerican views”?”

  15. It’s Time to Get Money Out of Politics
    Bailouts. War. Unemployment. Our government is bought, and we’re angry. Now, we’re turning our anger into positive action. By signing this petition, you are joining our campaign to get money out of politics. Our politicians won’t do this. But we will. We will become an unrelenting, organized wave advocating a Constitutional amendment to get money out of politics.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if this went viral?

  16. In a hurry and hungry this AM I stopped at Mickey D’s for a quick bite. While consuming their trash I noticed that they had CNN playing on the tubes, which was something of a shock. The program was about Can we fix this government. Then when I stopped for gas on the way home I saw a similar story on I believe it was the USA Today at the check out. Interesting how this is becoming a topic.

    The fix is actually quite simple. Take the outside money out of politics. Elections either publicly funded or contributions tightly limited. Turn K Street into a museum or something and not allow lobbyists to give one thin dime to any MOC for anything. No free lunches. And bury CU in the deepest hole we can find.

    And top of the evening to y’all.

  17. I also heard a fascinating statement at lunch today. Did y’all know that white folk have been defending Christianity for 2,000 years? Heard it in a town that is noted for livestock romance.

  18. I still find myself returning to the fact that Batscat’s speech was mandatory for the student body of Liberty “University”. It’s disturbing enough that federal student aid is used to send young people to this godbot factory but required attendance at a political rally really rubs me the wrong way. For people who throw out the word “tyranny” at the drop of a hat this sure sounds like something that tyrants would do.

    I’ve sent an email to my Representative, the DumpBachmann blog, Thom Hartmann, Ed Schultz, and both of my Senators. I’m also doing some research for a letter to the editors of local papers though they seem very reluctant to print anything critical of Bachmann. I tried to send a tip to TP but I can’t get past the registration without AOL, Hotmail, or Facebook. If anyone still has “an in” with TP I would appreciate it if you would pass the tip along. Pass it on to anyone you think appropriate. Mere curiosity alone has me wondering, wondering, wondering…

      • Where are my manners? Thank you, Jane.

        I’m really interested in this subject. I didn’t know that private religious schools could accept federal funding. From what I’ve found, so far, it’s not clear whether they just accept federally guaranteed loans (I think that’s O.K.) or the feds make direct payments through grants and such. I strenuously object to the latter.

        I wouldn’t even object to the grants up to the point where the students benefiting from said grants are compelled to attend religious and/or political rallies. Waaaay back, when I was in school, we would have rioted if the school’s administration had made a political/religious event mandatory. Granted; that was at the University of California at San Diego before Ronnie legitimized the religious right.

    • If the Rapture does happen next month I’m going to really, really, miss the signs. The teabagger signs, not the signs of the Rapture. Although, I’ll probably miss those signs too since I’ve never heard so much as a grunt from any supernatural entity.

  19. I found a brilliant comment over at Media Matters. It’s a bit long for a bumper sticker but I would love to see it go viral.

    Holy Cripes. It’s like they’re not even talking about Obama anymore. They’ve invented this fictional character they’ve named “Obama” and are now giving this character every horrific trait imaginable.

    Well, I guess if people don’t get confused between the fictional Obama over the real Obama, we should be okay….

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109280030?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+County+Fair%29

  20. We’re going to have a costume contest at the office for Halloween, and I was thinking that Wayne and I could try dressing up as teabaggers. Of course, if I have to stop at the grocery store after work that day, I’ll have to have a change of clothes with me!

    Since I can’t afford the Colonial garb, I was thinking of something like T-shirts with dumb sayings, a hat with tea bags dangling, and a misspelled sign. Any other suggestions?

        • For parents. Tonight my son, whose 25 yrs. old, announced to me that heretofore he’ll listen to what I have to say. I’d like to say, to the Clackamas County Criminal Division of Oregon, thank you for taking my tax dollars, and the incarceration of my son, because he had an arguement with his girlfriend of 6 years, to finally achieve the parental nirvana…He’ll listen to me.
          Phew I’m relieved.

          • I don’t have kids and, to be perfectly honest, I never really rebelled against Dad. Mom died when I was 12 and the evil stepmother drew all my angst. That being said; i have found that good parents eventually reach that stage where their kids realize said parents have some valuable contributions to make. It’s unfortunate that it took a stint in jail but I will still pass on a hearty “congratulations”.

            Zooey said something profound, the other night, when she said “asshole parents raise asshole kids”. I have found that that is not necessarily true any more than “fantastic parents raise fantastic kids”. Despite our best, or worst, efforts; kids will be their own persons. All we can hope for is that they act logically.

            I used my parenting skills while managing restaurants that employed, mostly, teenagers. Some of the best moments of my life came when the kids realized that I was trying to help instead of dictating to them.

            • Very well written Pete, and I agree. My experience leads me to the same conclusion. I have a daughter that graduated with a Masters in Architecture, and now makes less than my son. Two kids, same parents, with two different outcomes at this time. The DNA pool is a crap shoot at best, but I try my best with each.

        • Actually, I just rediscovered my love of schnapps. “Ice Hole Intense Mint”. I tried it when I was waiting for a appointment with my dentist after i shattered a tooth. It hurt like Hell for a few seconds and then went numb. When expelled through the nose it hurts for a longer duration. I could actually see a world without beer as long as the schnapps holds out but, on social occasions where I need to drink all night, I’ll revert to my favorite German lager.

            • I (mis?)spent several of my younger years managing a five star French restaurant with a fabulous wine list. I like my wine expensive and plentiful. Alas, I developed ulcers and, to this day, I simply can’t drink as much wine as I would like. White wines are less problematic but my beloved reds are just too much for my delicate guts. Sigh…

              I still drink a nice Merlot every so often but I have to seek out booze that doesn’t put as much strain on my innards. I’m drawing a blank on the name but I have a favorite Australian Chardonnay that is super with chicken, turkey, or seafood. I just wish that I liked white wines as much as the aforementioned reds.

    • I’m glad I saw the clip of Perry’s mangled sentence at the debates – it put this all into context!

      THANK YOU for posting this here, what a great laugh to end a long day!

  21. nwoldguy; I ran out of replies.

    I haven’t had a sip of red wine in years but I always loved Merlot. French, Italian, Spanish, Swiss, Australian, Californian. They are all “drinkable” for novices and, with a little experience, delightful for the discerning pallet. Back in 1986 I was gifted a 1979, $180, bottle of a Medoc Rothschild and it was divine. But? There were many relatively cheap wines that made for a really good party.

    Back when I was managing the French restaurant i would frequently get dressed down by my boss because I didn’t push the more expensive wines. I just couldn’t do it. Most of our patrons were in over their heads when it came to wine so I would recommend those I thought they would like. What’s not to like about a good Merlot? They are fruity but not too sweet. They are complex without being too subtle. And? They go along with most any food. Our house red was a Couvee’ Merlot and our white was a nice Burgundy Chardonnay. I didn’t see any sense in recommending anything else unless the customer had some idea what they were looking for. I figure we should leave the “snob wines” to snobs ad just drink what we like.

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