Twenty-five years after a fire caused a major chemical spill near Basel, questions are still being raised about how much pollution remains at the blaze site.
Basel Country environment officials say there is no need for action, a claim contested by a chemicals site expert.
In the early hours of November 1, 1986, fire broke out at a warehouse belonging to chemicals company Sandoz at the Schweizerhalle industrial area just outside Basel. Around 1,351 tonnes of pesticides and agrochemicals went up in flames.
The accident turned the River Rhine red, killed thousands of fish and sent acrid smoke over the city. It was one of Europe’s worst environmental disasters and made world news. (read full story)
Recently authorities have decided that no further clean-up was necessary. There are only a few hundred kilos of Oxadixyl left in the ground. It is said to be a non-hazardous substance. The fish beg to differ.
This is our Open Thread. Open Up!
” two firefighters were charged over the Rhine pollution resulting from their actions fighting the blaze”
Punish the fireman, that’s brilliant!
Why don’t we do that?
Oh, wait a minute we are already doing that to the World Trade first responders…
Fixing the blame is sooooo much easier than solving the problem.
Good Morning Lady EV, sad, ugly and much like our spills here in the states..Thanks for posting the info…Peace, Blessings & Joy to you..
Good morning, all! Just a quick note to let you all know that Wayne and I still don’t have internet at home since Saturday’s storm. I’ll let you know as soon as we’re back on line.
Stay safe and warm!
Power we have. And we should, too, considering there is a NYSEG Power Substation just a few hundred feet from our house. It would be very depressing to have everyone further away have power and not us. Unfortunately, when that tree came down in my front lawn, it took out some cable and phone lines. I have no idea when they’re going to be fixed. But we’ve been without our internets since the pwoer first went out Saturday afternoon (and then shortly came back on.)
AT least you can keep your toes-ys warm. 🙂
Good thing we humans are created in the exact image of the Great God in Heaven Itself, else all our environmental crimes and the resulting pollution of the planet might well come back to haunt us someday.
From the “else with” clause, scratch the “with” . . . and then another cup of coffee, please.
None of the Sandoz management was held to account.
Naturally. If corporations are people, why can’t we put them in jail when these things happen?
GOP light-heartedly depicts the President with a bullet hole in his forehead:
http://wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2614725
Oh, that wacky GOP sense of humor. It often involves guns and bullets and death. But they’re “just kidding.”
The (typical) GoOPer ‘apology’:
They are disgusting. For three years, they have allowed outrageous acts and words against Obama to proliferate without a word of condemnation — so it becomes acceptable to many. Now it goes even further, and the GOP feigns outrage — where have they been? Their refusal to condemn previous emails and words from teabaggers, candidates, politicians, talking heads, et al. has caused escalation in this sort of thing — so their apology is hollow, insincere and not to be believed.
This coming Thursday, 11/03, all four academic unions are scheduled to go on strike here at SIUC. The Chancellor — having unilaterally set aside contracts, frittered away $1.5 Million to “rebrand” the university, and demanding that tenure be effectively eliminated — insists that it is the intransigence of the professoriate that has led to this impasse. (One might add that the source of cost increases in higher-ed over the last 40 years are pretty much entirely in the administrative area, even though it is the instructors who are blamed. SIUC is 10% higher cost wise in this area than any other state school in Illinois.)
Good for them, Gary.
I’ve long thought higher ed was too top heavy and sports heavy in terms of costs. They need to remember that they are institutions of education.
Oh wait…they don’t care.
I’ve long wondered just how much college “sports” actually increase the cost of getting an education. I suppose some programs here and there are self-supporting, but overall I’m willing to bet that the national bottom line is written in bright red ink. Consider the cost of stadiums, arenas, and all the other sports facilities on college and university campuses across the country and then wonder how much better a use all of that cash could have been put to; then ask, why? Why the waste? For what purpose?
I have no answer for that.
I’m not sure what the costs of sports are in the general scheme of things.
But I should add that I don’t believe salaries are the main issues here. Rather, job security, maintaining tenure, advance layoff notices for the adjuncts, and shared governance (this latter being another point where the chancellor has made substantial efforts to undermine the professoriate) are the sticking points.
“Herb” Cain gestures…sexual harassment complaints ensue.
Huh? I don’t get it. Anyone else know what the problem is here?
That’s the high sign of the He-Man Woman Haters Club!
(that is funny)
He only used one hand under his chin in this re-enactment and said he was indicating the height of his wife. Maybe in the original version he used two hands to infer something special about a certain woody?
Guys can be hard to figure. But not very often.
I’ve got a feeling that Hermie did more with his hands than just holding one at his chin. I doubt that that alone led to complaints. I suspect he may have indicated he wanted to compare other physical attributes of this woman to his wife’s attributes!.
He must have done, right?
Filing a sexual harassment complaint or lawsuit is such a huge pain in the ass that I doubt a complaint would be filed for a single hand gesture.
I’m wondering if “Herb” keeps talking enough about this, that maybe the confidentiality agreements signed in the these settlements might lose their power? Or maybe other women who didn’t file complaints will come forward?
I was called to HR when I worked for a cable TV company. A complaint was made about my inquiries about a woman who worked at another office 300 miles away. I had never seen the woman in person and only seen brief glimpses of her on an internet camera in her office. I did speak to her several time a day, however, but never talked about anything but customers.
I was perplexed about how I could be suspected of improper behavior when I had never met the woman.
A month later the woman made arrangements to meet me for dinner one night as she was passing through town while on vacation. I learned that the HR complaint had been made by a male co-worker of hers in her office. He was involved in a legal suit with her and didn’t like my asking about the woman with a sultry voice.
I can understand the guy not wanting to say anything about her but never could understand the “concern” the HR head at my location had about my “inappropriate” behavior. I kept asking the HR head what I had done but the only answer I got was that a complaint had been made.
HR is always vague about complaints. They have one goal in mind and that is to protect the company/corporation so they never really share any information about complaints.
That is just so much abusive bullshit. No one should be able to make that sort of complaint on behalf of another.
Who said OWS wasn’t having any effect.
Big Bad As* was holding its ground and now scurrying back into a hole.
Happy Birthday to my youngest sister — 46 years old today! 😆
Were you all November babies?
H.B. Zooey’s sister!
No, just the two of us. The middle girl is a June baby. 😉
This goes out to everyone except Zooey’s sister. 😀
The Scandal by Clay Bennett
Great cartoon from the Chattanooga Times Free Press
01 November – El Dia de Muertos
cempasuchil/flor de muertos
Another example how religion attempted to ‘take over’ then having to adapt some aspects of ‘heathen doings’ in order to ‘convert’ the indigenous people:
Whenever I hear the name Sandoz I immediately think “LSD”. It was the Holy Grail for some in the late 60s, but I only knew one person who actually had any and that was when she was on staff with Timothy Leary.
Where I worked when fresh out of college, at a corporate BCW research facility, LSD was called EA-1729 and was a recognized psychedelic chemical warfare agent. Far as I know, no particular research project was underway when I was there, but half-full jar of the stuff on a lab shelf strongly suggested that something had already gone down in months or years preceding.
Google EA-1729 and note that the designation is no longer classified, also that it was investigated “as a possible incapacitating CW compound”. Some have even been so bold to suggest it was used in the (supposed) MKULTRA project designed to permanently erase Sirhan Sirhan’s memory of reasons for (and specifics of) his involvement in the events at the Los Angeles Ambassador Hotel early on June 5, 1968.
Interesting shit, EA-1729.
Gummitch, by the way, is home sick. Terrible night’s sleep and then about 5:00 I fell into deep sleep. Less than three hours later my ex woke me up with a stupid phone call. Back to bed and actually fell asleep again until after 10:00. If only I didn’t still feel like shit.
Crap gummitch. Stay low and rest. And turn your ringer off!
Is your dog being a comfort? or Pestering to go out of doors to the park?
Feel better soon, gummitch!
Dog is only here on weekends, when I have visitation. Right now that’s a good thing, because I couldn’t give him the proper walks.
I hope you’ll be better soon. Take care.
Tea and toast, poor sick gummitch.
And unplug the phone. 🙂
Ron Paul talks about student loans, and basically points out that it’s useless to pay to educate people. Why? Because there are no jobs, of course.
Paul is finally exposing himself to be almost as nuts as his son. And that’s saying something!
The definition of short-sighted: the Pauls of TX.
Hey, shitheel, a generation ago all tuition for higher education in California state schools was ZERO, And then “government” did screw it up, “government” in the person of Ronald Reagan. And, yes, tuition elsewhere didn’t leave students with crippling debt, which is why you could “work your way through.” Oh, that and scholarships, but I guess Ron Paul never qualified for one of those.
The whole point of Pell Grants and federal loans is to allow “laborers” to go to college, idiot! But we should cut off those loans so that only the truly wealthy can afford to put their kids through college and everyone else can work cheerfully at their non-union jobs and dream of retiring to a cardboard box.
Prick.
What gummitch said.
Ron Paul says he worked his way through school. I wonder if he claims that he never took student loans — even while getting through medical school?
Of course, back then education was fucking AFFORDABLE.
Michele Bachmann on her “flat tax” proposal:
I take a page from Ronald Reagan and the economic miracle that was wrought in the 1980s. Reagan flattened the tax rates and he simplified them.
Ah yes, the Reagan economic miracle–the policy that became the foundation for today’s record debt and grossly fucked up tax rates on the already wealthy, the basis for the predicted and steady “trickle down” of wealth to the poor and the middle class.
Yep. Miracle for sure. Well, maybe if we raised the taxes on the rich to what they were when St. Ronnie left office … hmmm.
Reagan’s tax rates and tax raises on the middle class caused the yo-yo dieting that our Federal government has been bingeing and purging for 30 years now. It’s pathetic. And leave lots of losers in it’s wake.
So Mittens is in a ponzi scheme. Oh yeah, he made Romenycare which is similar to Obamacare which, of course, is a ponzi scheme. Not sure why they deny it!
Ann Coulter: ‘Our Blacks Are So Much Better Than Their Blacks’
And their puppies are cuter, too. Especially the purebreds. 🙄
From the “you can’t make this shit up” file.
Bill0, of all people, actually had the gall to tell a guest who disagreed with him that, as a FAUX”News” contributor, she had a “responsibility” to make sure that she is able to “back up” anything she says. He even went on to say that “other networks might get away with that” but FAUX”News” demands accountability. The fact that he did not break out in boils, turn into a pillar pf salt, or burst into flames serves as another data point implying that Old Testament God is no longer on the job.
Seriously though; Bill0 is a smoother liar than most of the rest of the FAUXhounds. Much of his schtick is creating and defeating straw man arguments so he can always fall back on a defense based on merely exploring a hypothetical. If he ever mentions that he was dead wrong on the whole $16.00 muffin thing his defense will be: “I was saying it was an outrage IF they spent $16.00 on muffins”, “the actual cost of the muffins doesn’t matter, they should all buy their own breakfast”, or he’ll just claim it was a cover up to make Bill0 look bad.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201111010016#1517958
Ed was all over this last night. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/45111804#45111804
Those women sitting there and taking that bullshit off him is a testament to the power of the authoritarian mindset.
Oh, yes indeed – why oh why didn’t they call him out? Life would not cease to exist. I’ve no idea who they were or why on the program – wish I’d had the few minutes to shut BillyO’s mouth with facts!
“Cut her mic…CUT HER MIC!!!!”
Are Fox guests allowed to carry concealed? I mean, it is a right, you know.
How does one get invited to be a guest? 👿
NASA
Global Climate Change
State of Flux images of change
I’m not out here hiding in shame due to the propensity of some of our citizens to make our state look like a bunch of violent bigoted fools (trashy looking blonde pagent lady, Loudon GOP). I’m just really busy with the new barn and stuff. Took son and three of the grands out for trick-or-treat and pizza last night. The youngest, 5, was a little loud in the restaurant. When I asked him if he knew what happens if you’re rude, he answered “Bad Karma?”
Keep a close eye on the 5 year old, Outstanding. He’s a keeper. 😉
That is sooooo funny – the kid has the concept!
Is the new barn completed?
Getting close, still need water and electric. It looks better than my house.
If I had the garage in my back yard that I want, it’d look better than my house too.
This woman is SO full of shit. And dumb…really DUMB.
What’s a corporate zygote look like, I wonder? Where are they found? Are they mainly a result of corporations fucking everything that walks by?
There are lots of unanswered questions for SCOTUS to tackle.
She is so flustered. Can’t even articulate her position on such silly legislation.
(difficult to believe she’s an attorney)
Really liked Tom emphasizing the words cell and zygote.
This has to be a lead in to a scene from Monty Python..
I couldn’t resist.
One could, with accuracy, define most any mammalian fetus as a parasite, as in (New World Dictionary) “an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it.”
I’ve tried laying it out like that on a wingnut or two and whether they want to die of shock on the spot or come after me, their reaction is quite curious given the absolute reality of the matter, of the situation.
The bottom line question is, so often, why do so many ‘humans’ have so much difficulty recognizing that humans are nothing more–and nothing less–than any other life form anywhere? Humans may have various traits that other genus-species lack, but the same could be said about those others when compared with humans as well.
I have a strong feeling that if we as a species don’t very quickly come to realize that we have no more working in our favor than did the wooly mammoth, our fate is obvious. But how to get that concept across to a wingnut?
The irony of your question is that the wingnuts believe that by virtue of humans having a higher intellectual capacity, that we are superior to animals; however, the wingnuts fail to demonstrate such capacity.
And clearly, they’ve never met my cat. Speaking of “a higher intellectual capacity.”
Wow! That woman is really stupid and/or dosed up on something that interferes with her ability to recognize a freakin’ point.
Very Disappointing. A broad law to protect only the situation of when a woman chooses to use a surrogate to carry a child?
How will it benefit most women? Sounds like a back door to banning abortion to me.
Quote of the Day:
“Even though Cain won’t be the nominee, his candidacy tells us a lot about the psychology of GOP activists. Our team wants someone authentic, creative, fresh, bold and likeable. And we don’t have much tolerance for too many facts or too much information.” – GOP operative Ed Rogers.
TPM commenter bearclaw:
Hey, I paid $9.00 for this bottle of wine. I can’t be wasting it by spewing it all over my kitchen table.
You knew the risks when you joined Outstanding, humor is a constant hazard here. 😀
Here is the most interesting halloween costume I’ve seen in a while.
Arizona’s Governor (while in NEW York on a Book Tour) is calling a special session of the state Congress to impeach the independent member of a independent redistricting panel that had been voted on by all Az voters a few years back– to be replaced with another Republican to redraw the redrawn districts in favor of Republicans.
Can you say “Gerrymander”? I knew that you could.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/31/jan-brewer-s-sleazy-attempt-to-impeach-redistricting-board.html
Jiminy Cricket all his siblings – that is some Republican tomfoolery!
Everyone knows that Republicans are the only party worthy of governing, and therefore any effort to not guarantee their electoral majority is criminal and an impeachable offense.
Brewer has a book out? Who wrote it for her?
Forward is by Sarah Palin. I’m not sure who wrote the rest of it.
On Faux? Your kidding. I would never have guessed. (slapping my forehead while keeping my beer steady and letting out a resounding Homeresque DOH!)
New from Andy Borowitz:
The Best Underexplored Art Treasure in the City
Diego Rivera hidden treasure in SF.
Go to the middle of the article – click on the rectangular mural – it’ll open for full exploration.
Amazing depictions!
Another “isolated incident” of domestic terrorism. Explosives and ricin are a nasty combination. For those unfamiliar with ricin; it’s a very nasty poison that anyone with access to castor beans and some advanced high school chemistry knowledge can cook up in their basement.
Where did this happen, petelnh?
Oops! Forgot the link.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/01/us-usa-crime-toxin-idUSTRE7A07L320111101?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
I should also probably use some of my professional knowledge of explosives, and chemistry in general, to explain why this is a real live unholy union.
Ricin is easy to produce and very basic explosives can be used to make aerosol “grenades” that would be devastating. I must digress…
As a chemist, I can make some very credible explosives from common ingredients. I used to make my own fireworks and always put the blast/concussion at the top of my list. I finally arrived at a device that was about the volume of two postage stamps, was wrapped in masking tape (no shrapnel), would light with a match, and would propel a plastic 5gal. bucket about 30 feet in the air. An ounce of this substance could form an aerosol from a few ounces of risin and kill a whole lot of people.
(NOTE: No one, including myself, was ever harmed by any of the explosives I made for enjoyment. I did, however, kill a whole bunch of fish when I tested a electrically triggered underwater device. I also got soaked to the skin from a device that was 50 feet away and under 4 feet of water. I may have underestimated the amount of explosive needed to make a fountain.)
Anyway… It would not take much of a chemist to use ricin as a, very terrible, terrorist WMD.
Isn’t it a bit odd that this “domestic militia group” would choose
such ‘weapons’?
Nope. It’s not “odd” at all. What it is, though, is a demonstration that banning the kinds of weapons maniacs use to shoot people would not influence our efforts to stop terrorism. I could, as a chemist, construct a bomb that would kill thousands without ever being subjected to official scrutiny. What is hard, and should be harder, is buying a firearm that can, by itself, outgun a whole platoon of Revolutionary Soldiers from the 18th Century.
Then there’s the “logic” of these so-called “militias”. If society were to collapse to the point where I might think I have to kill a soldier? I would pick him off from many hundreds of yards, with my .30-06 Browning bolt action, or from feet away with my 12 gauge shotgun. An M16 or AK-47 stye assault rifle isn’t really the best weapon for an insurrectionist. They are, however, the perfect weapon for mass murder.
A bluff collapses at at Wisconsin power plant spilling coal ash into Lake Michigan.
Power plant is in Paul Ryan’s district.
House voted against EPA rules covering coal ash recently.
For many decades people have cleaned up and attempting to keep Lake Michigan pollution free…
then
this happens. It never should have.
Rules and regulations – who needs them/
Despite this particular disaster; we still need to appreciate the success stories of the Great lakes. When I was very young the Great Lakes were basically a toxic brew, unfit for any life. If one managed to catch a fish it was probably so infused with chemicals as to be inedible. Now? The Great Lakes support thriving fisheries. I think that the Great Lakes are a shining example of Man’s ability to fix the damage he has caused.
Regulations? Those are only for Democrats. Republicans don’t need no stinking regulations.
Of course, regulations are another word for consumer protections BUT who needs them?
Here’s a link for Pete’s story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45125741/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.TrCedfQr27s
Thanks, pachy!
Thanks! Sometimes I forget links when I have a couple shots of schnapps.
Huh? What are you talking about? 😉
What kind of schnapps pete?
Check your email, pachy!
It’s called “Ice Hole” and is billed as “an intense mint schnapps”. It’s 75 proof and goes great with vanilla ice cream and fudge stripe cookies. It also makes a great compliment to Little Debbie’s “Swiss cake rolls” (Same as a Hostess “Ho-Ho”.) It’s also good straight from the freezer over ice, straight from the refrigerator with or without ice, straight up and room temperature, heated or chilled or diluted or condensed; I like it.
P.I.L. – Rules and Regulations
Let me get this straight. Everything that Obama does is a camping ploy. Everything that Obama does is wrong. Everything that Obama did despite the precedents of his predecessor is wrong. Everything he did in accordance with his predecessor is right but he can’t be right. So? Everything that Bush did and Obama wasn’t able to stop is right except for the fact that everything Obama does is wrong. Did I mention that he’s a nigger?
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/11/01/358467/bush-rove-obama-foreign-policy/
Had you mentioned the “R” word this mess would make repugnant party sense!
Rove is sooo jealous of Obama’s accomplishment and GW’s failures. GW never had the ‘follow through’ only the ‘bravado’ scenery wearing a codpiece on a carrier.
I hesitate to use the “R” word because it has lost it’s meaning. It wasn’t that long ago that I was more likely to vote for a Republican than a Democrat but that time is long gone. I can no longer maintain that level of disbelief or cognitive dissonance.
Rove is jealous because the capture of Bin Laden, the Arab spring, Libya getting free of the G man, all happened on Obama’s watch.
I would like to mention, that if Bush had embraced Clinton’s world view, then 9/11 would not have happened.
GWB was all ego and show. His ‘little grey cells’ did not comprehend the ways of the real world.
I have just received the following nomination!
http://jfoe122ograss.info/vy2NwmaefMdA6810001oahgyuzhnbq/fPH6CJ.17450/Kjnv9SS
Thanks all! Or was it Newt?
I’m sure you are all that, Walt. LOL!
er, um – congratulations?
You go, girl!
Is “Herb” making Palin look smart yet?
They seem to have attended the same ‘foreign policy’ for dummies class with neither receiving a passing grade!