The Watering Hole: Tuesday, November 8 – Personhood

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I am not talking about the abominable plans in Mississippi to turn a fertilized egg into a person legally. I have no intention to grace this irrationality with a post. I am talking about “The Economy” and “The Markets”. Both are nomina depicting a number of activities but are treated like they were personalities.

The Economy, that’s what we do. That’s the system or range of economic activity in a country, region, or community. We do it by producing goods, by providing services, by consuming. You name it. It is not a person, it is the totality of economic interaction done by all of us. As this is done by all of us, we have as a society or community the right and the duty to set the rules how this interaction should be, in order to be most profitable for all of us.

The Economy is not a person which is empowered to set the rules unless we make it that way, or rather let it happen. We do that currently.

The Markets are defined ranging from a) A public gathering to sell and buy merchandise, to b) A specific geographical area where certain merchandise or good are being sold to or bought from, to most globally c) The entire enterprise of buying and selling commodities and securities. If this were a person I’d recommend psychiatric evaluation for dissociative disorder.

The Markets are an integral part of the greater entity The Economy. The Economy is what WE do, The Markets is what WE do inside The Economy. WE decide how we want to do it. It is time we took our lives and our society back into our own hands and start to send representatives into our parliaments who do OUR bidding not the bidding of their shill friends Economy and Markets.

For behind the shill we find the real friends who perfectly understand how to use the concept of The Economy and The Markets as godlike ruling force against us. We all know who they are on your side of the Atlantic and on ours. 

This is our open thread. A public gathering to offer and accept your comments and a lively discussion. Get going.


275 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: Tuesday, November 8 – Personhood

  1. There is one situation which needs to be monitored in Italy. Berlusconi’s partner “Lega” President Bossi has now called for the resignation of the cavaliere.

    There are two reasons why Berlusconi might still survive this afternoon’s vote or even a vote of no confidence. One is, he hasn’t sorted all his legal troubles and is prepared to spend millions in buying votes. The second is, a large number of members of parliament are freshmen and still have not served long enough to be entitled a pension, new elections would endanger their carefully laid plans for their own retirement. Sordid eh?

  2. Thanks for this explanation. We decide what we want to purchase at the markets. This is why it is important to buy local so that the local economy grows which then sprinkles into larger economies.

    Today, is occupy day, that is, occupy the voting booth here in the US. Vote local and vote progressive, if possible, because having a future for the 99% of us depends upon it.

  3. Big vote today in Ohio. Voters will decide whether or not to overturn the Republicans attack on the middle class.

    State Issue 2 gives voters a chance to veto anti-union Senate Bill 5 rammed through by the Republicans. A yes vote upholds the law, a no vote would be against the law.

    Polling has suggested that it should easily be overturned, but we know the Republicans won’t hesitate to use every dirty trick in the book to keep their radical agenda.

    • Big vote today in Mississippi, too. If the fertilized egg bill passes, then women will have lost their bodies to the government. Question: Is a fertilized egg included in the population count?

      • Cats, how about “anchor zygotes” ? Will foreigners be banned from having intercourse on US soil? 😆

        • Will folks be allowed to apply for Social Security based on their date of fertilization, instead of the day they left the womb?

          Same thing goes for voting, and drinking…

          • Good thinking, if so people might move to Mississippi and get another extra 10 months worth of ss. For drinking it was better to be here in Europe, though. I could start at 16 and actually did even before that.

            • when will the first woman be arrested for taking contraceptives if this passes? seems to me to be just a matter of time before the moral majority uber rightwing radicals swing for the fences if this does somehow pass.

            • Hee hee, it does exist, but not how I thought it would:

              Zygote is the debut solo album by musician John Popper of the American jam band Blues Traveler. Produced by Terry Manning, it was released on September 7, 1999, less than a month after Popper lost a good friend and fellow bandmember, Bobby Sheehan. Accompanying Popper on this album is Carter Beauford (of the Dave Matthews Band) on drums, and Crugie Riccio on guitar, Rob Clores, and Dave Ares (all of Cycomotogoat).

        • I second that thought… if a woman is presumed pregnant from the moment that she engages in sex, then wouldn’t that grant special privileges to the dreaded hordes from South of the border?

          And would women get to drive in the carpool/HOV lane on the highway?

        • Ooh yes – let’s see the Supreme Court tackle that one…..

          “You can’t throw me out, I’m three days late for my period – I’m gestating an Amurkan citizen now!”

          Amendment – only white zygotes will be protected.

          “Yes, it was a white guy that I shagged, not a brown or black one”

    • zxbe, good luck! keep my fingers crossed. I scent a hint of change again. Sometimes in politics the atmosphere changes and somehow I have a feeling, this may still turn out well.

  4. The economy, our financial system and our free market system of capitalism is all about manipulation, market manipulation so that a few can make insane amounts of money from the hard work and sweat of the working man and woman.

    I don’t recall the author of this quote or the exact wording but it goes like this and rings true today:

    “When a nations money handlers and non producers of products begin to make more money than the farmer and the laborer, that nation is doomed to fail.”

    How the tax on capital gains and dividends is half of what the tax is on the average working American truly is appalling to me.

    • Edited: That the taxes paid on capital gains and dividends is half of what the taxes paid from ones labor, is truly appalling to me.

  5. Last night on Jimmy Kimmel, Herman Cain “revealed” his wife is a Democrat (we knew that). Kimmel should have asked Cain, “So your wife is brainwashed then?”

    Cain spoke about the amount of money he has raised since these allegations came out, describing record fundraising numbers. Jimmy Kimmel asked Cain if he thought the other candidates would hire women to charge them with sexual harassment.

    Cain joked, “If they’re smart they will.” Again, Kimmel’s next question should have been, “And are YOU smart?”

    • And the question arises, what is Jimmy Kimmel doing interviewing presidential candidates and why should we care? I suppose Jon Stewart opened that door but, really, The Man Show? Not to mention noted shithead Ben Stein.

      He was sleeping with Sarah Silverman, though, I’ll give him that. Would that I could say the same.

  6. Hey question from last night – which author of early christian history (contradictions and inconsistencies) were we discussing the other week. It wasn’t Joe Campbell.

    • I know this isn’t the answer, but Hans Küng’s The Catholic Church: A Short History, is a rewarding read. The book is primarily about the Church’s descent into hierarchy, authoritarianism, and conservatism — and he provides all the historical facts to substantiate what he writes. Küng preaches the ordination of women, and the end of the hierarchy. The Church hates him.

  7. “…corporations have no allegiance whatsoever to the public interest, only to their shareholders and boards of directors. Who was the Supreme Court kidding when they proposed in 2010 that corporations have a personal stake in politics. Corporations are sociopaths. They need to be tasered!”

    – James Kunstler, Clusterfuck Nation.

    • There is no morality in corporations. There is only the bottom line and survival of the fittest to get to the top by any means necessary. Those with morals and ethics remain low on the totem pole. Those who are the most ambitious and without ethics typically rise to the top of the corporation. It’s against every religious law that the fundies try to make the rest of us live by.

    • A quick tase for an Ackermann or Koch would do me good indeed. But I am afraid, won’t happen. How about this guillotine the French keep oiled and maintained, borrowing this would calm me down as well. The occupy movement in Zurich has had their plea for keeping their camp at Zurich’s Lindenhof denied. We’ll see how the police will handle it.

  8. Quote of the Day:

    “That a direct requirement for most Americans to purchase any product or service seems an intrusive exercise of legislative power surely explains why Congress has not used this authority before–but that seems to us a political judgment rather than a recognition of constitutional limitations. It certainly is an encroachment on individual liberty, but it is no more so than a command that restaurants or hotels are obliged to serve all customers regardless of race, that gravely ill individuals cannot use a substance their doctors described as the only effective palliative for excruciating pain, or that a farmer cannot grow enough wheat to support his own family.

    The right to be free from federal regulation is not absolute, and yields to the imperative that Congress be free to forge national solutions to national problems, no matter how local–or seemingly passive–their individual origins,” – the US Court of Appeals, DC Circuit

  9. On Jimmy K. last evening “Herb” had this to say:

    “You get disgusted, you try to control yourself to make sure you watch this thing all the way through, and I was listening very closesly, and then when it was all over with I said ‘Well, I know what we’ve got to do,’ because there’s not an ounce of truth in all of these accusations,” Cain said.

    (Cain will hold a press conference at 11a – I can’t find which time zone that will be – although he’s in AZ today, if I recall correctly)

  10. A Fifth Woman. Herman Cain is a creep:

    Donna Donella, 40, of Arlington, said the USAID paid Cain to deliver a speech to businessmen and women in Egypt in 2002, during which an Egyptian businesswoman in her 30s asked Cain a question.

    “And after the seminar was over,” Donella told The Washington Examiner, “Cain came over to me and a colleague and said, ‘Could you put me in touch with that lovely young lady who asked the question, so I can give her a more thorough answer over dinner?'”

    Donella, who no longer works for USAID, said they were suspicious of Cain’s motives and declined to set up the date. Cain responded, “Then you and I can have dinner.” That’s when two female colleagues intervened and suggested they all go to dinner together, Donella said.

  11. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-ong all the time) said she would add former presidents Ronald Reagan, James Garfield and Calvin Coolidge to Mount Rushmore Tuesday in an ABC News/Yahoo! interview Tuesday.

    I love her reality show.

    • “Silent Cal” next to St. Ronnie!

      It’s heartening to note she has the major issues forefront in her campaigning//

    • Garfield – really? Had to look him up (Bing puts the cat above him in the searc results).

      Garfield was the first president to advocate for federally funded universal K-12 education – man was a f***ing Marxist!!!!

      Earth to Batshit, come in Batshit……

      ** static **

      • Good job the nutter with syphilis (a crazed wingnut by my impression) shot him – we could have had ther Soviet States of America in 1882 – ye gods that was close.

    • How would she pay for it? Does she have any idea just how expensive such an undertaking would be? It’s also a rather odd mix. Garfield is the only one who didn’t lay the foundation for massive financial collapse.

    • I have no problem, as long as the Mt Rushmore carvings are, say 14″ tall.
      And Raygun is asleep, and Cal looks exactly like Alfred E. Neumann.

    • Why James Garfield? She really is clueless. It’s too bad that Bachmann received the less than adequate fundy education. Her ignorance shows in everything she says.

  12. The video of an unprovoked shooting, with a rubber bullet, in Oakland is starting to get some notice. I posted a link to the video the other night but may i ask you good people to pass the link along at other sites?

  13. Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Tuesday, November 8, 2011 — 12:10 PM EST

    Penn State Said to Be Planning Paterno’s Exit

    Joe Paterno’s tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks, in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal that has implicated university officials, according to two people briefed on conversations among the university’s top officials.

    The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit, but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious brand will not survive to coach another season. Discussions about how to manage his departure have begun, according to the two people.

    Read More:

    Gotta wonder if an NCAA equivalent of DADT might not be a good idea.

    • The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit…

      Timing? Timing! – boot his arse NOW.
      Why all the damn delicacies on this?

      • Because there is a lot of money in NCAA sports and they don’t want to upset the balance that’s is clearly tipped in the favour of the rich. Did you see the one coach of a college football team that quit and gets 6 million to leave as part of his deal? Just happened but can’t find it right now.

  14. On a more amusing note…

    It looks like the Reichwhiners don’t care who wins the nomination as long as it’s not Mittens. The one guy in the field who might have a chance in a general election just doesn’t pass the purity test. (I suspect that the purity test is also a religious test which just makes it doubly delicious since these are the same people who brandish their pocket sized Constitutions like amulets.)

  15. “We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both.” SCOTUS Justice Louis Brandeis

  16. Cain is set to hold a news conference in Scottsdale, Ariz., at 3 p.m. PT/5 p.m. ET to address the allegations by Bialek and three other women, dating from his tenure as head of the National Restaurant Association.

    He had an ‘interview’ with ABC not long ago:

    After watching Bialek’s news conference on Monday, Cain told ABC this afternoon that his wife of 43 years said “that doesn’t even sound like you.”

    We’ll see if Gloria is by his side at conference time.

  17. Herman Cain says he is running for president for the “kids and the grandkids.”

    “I’m not doing this for myself,” Cain said.

  18. Perhaps my first and only ever Kardashian post (or is that Cardassian?) thanks to George Takei

    “Kim Kardashian files for divorce after 72 days. Another example of how same-sex marriage is destroying the sanctity of the very institution.”


  19. In full recognition of the fact that the next big US election is one year from today, that based on the possibility the Republicans could well take over all three branches, and that the consequences of such happening would require that everyone not dead from the neck up (that would be mainly we folks from The Zoo) move to a commune somewhere, I’ve taken it upon myself to search for the right place to locate said commune. I may have found it.

    The Cook Islands are located in mid-pacific close to the Tropic of Capricorn, halfway between Equador and N. Australia. There are fifteen islands in the Cooks, the main one of which is Rarotanga, briefly described as an island that

    . . . stands 14,750 feet (4500m) above the ocean floor. It is 20 miles (32k) in circumference. At a depth of 13,000 feet (4000m) the volcano is some 31 miles (50k) in diameter. The highest peak is 2140 feet (658m) above sea level and the island is surrounded by a lagoon which extends several hundred yards to the reef which then slopes steeply to deep water.
    Around the central mountainous area of this beautiful island is a narrow band of agricultural terraces and flats which, in turn, is encircled by a ring of swamps used largely for growing taro.
    The climate is equable. Rarotonga is the second furthest south of the Cooks group and is almost exactly opposite Honolulu in relative latitude — just inside the Tropic of Capricorn. It enjoys temperatures of between 64ºF (18ºC) and 82ºF (28ºC) in the southern winter which is May to October, and between 70ºF (21ºC) and 84ºF (29ºC) in the summer which spans November to April. The wet season is normally January to early May. Severe weather is seldom experienced. . . .

    Here is a video of our possible welcoming committee which sort of demonstrates why the Cook Islands might be a nice place to call home.

    Thoughts? 😀

    • Crazy Shelly would definitely disagree. KochCain hasn’t laid the foundation for a financial collapse. Reagan and Coolidge both did while Garfield didn’t but he was shot during his first year in office so he didn’t have as much time to screw things up as Batscat’s other choices.

      Frankly, I think it would be more interesting if ABC had asked the candidates which of the current Presidents they would remove. Logically, since none of them were theocratic, I would guess that Batscat and Prayerry would remove them all. Newt would probably have Lincoln removed because of that little spat in the 1860s. Mittens and KochCain would probably nix Roosevelt because of his anti-business policies.

          • 2012 Primary Debate Schedule

            Here are the next two:

            November 9, 2011 8pm ET on CNBC
            Location: Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan
            Sponsor: CNBC, the Michigan Republican Party and Oakland University
            Participants: Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Huntsman, Paul, Perry, Romney, Santorum

            November 12, 2011 8pm ET on CBS – Tickets
            Location: Wofford College in Spartanburg, South Carolina
            Sponsor: CBS News, The National Journal and the Republican Party of South Carolina
            Participants: TBD

    • Debate tomorrow (9th)

      The live streaming of ‘Herbs’ news conference ‘has concluded’.
      I’m trying to find video a/o transcript…

  20. Okay, I need to go for a bit to fill out a rental app and write a note for snail mail.

    I wonder what my handwriting looks like these days…? 😉

  21. Joe Walsh flips out! I really admire the restraint of the people involved. If that sack of shit stuck his finger in my face there’s a 50% chance I would break the offending digit or bite it off and a 50% chance that i would have pressed his threat to have me kicked out. Of course, I’ve already decided that it’s pointless to even try and rationally discuss anything with teabaggers so I would have found a different coffee shop in the first place.

    • What a jerk! So much for Congress listening to their constituents. Walsh comes from the RushLimbaughCutOffYourMic school of dialogue.

  22. And then there’s this:

    Allred: U.S. Senate Shoudl Subpoena Cain, Accusers

    Gloria Allred — attorney for one of Herman Cain’s accusers — on CNN suggested that the Senate should subpoena Cain and his accusers to finally set the record straight.

    Gloria, what the fuck are you talking about? What has the Senate got to do with any of this? Anything to jack up payday.

  23. I need to sleep. Tomorrows another day and I have to learn new tricks. Good Night my lovelies!

  24. I love this one:

    [T]o say that Herman Cain has an imperfect grasp of policy would be unfair not only to George W. Bush in 1999 but also to Britney Spears in 1999. Herman Cain seems like someone who, quite frankly, has never opened a newspaper.

  25. Riding the bus – I see the posters on the buses and the big signs… “I am a Mormon”

    Is it just me or is anyone thinking – whoah that sign is misspelled…?

  26. The thing that keeps bothering me about this Bialek woman — not that I disbelieve her story — is that her response to Cain pushing her head into his crotch was to say “You know I have a boyfriend!”

    As if she’d totally go down on him otherwise. 🙄

  27. Hooda, do you recall the author about the early Christianity books-
    the discussion theZoo had a week or two ago?
    The one Turtle is trying to find?

    • The only remedy: get rid of the Repugnant/teapottier Party.
      That’s the only way to insure somewhat free and fair elections.

    • Speaking of today’s local elections…

      There’s something that’s nagging at me. When I went to the polling place, which is in a church but that doesn’t really bother me any more, one of the nice ladies working the desk was wearing a “Bachmann for President” button on her Sarah Palin red coat. Would that not be considered a violation of the laws restricting campaigning and signs within so many feet of a polling place? I can’t seem to find a mention of buttons in any of the sites I’ve checked.

      • That is totally improper in a polling place, and probably against the law.

        They won’t let people do electioneering within so many feet of the polling place, but there’s that stupid woman with her button INSIDE the polling place.

        • That’s kinda what I thought but, as others have said, it seems like it’s in that gray area. Plus, it’s not like Batscat was on the ballot this time. I might have made a scene if she were. I doubt that she influenced anyone and we didn’t have a conversation although I was tempted, after casting my vote, to ask her if she was aware that Shelly is stark, raving, mad.

          • I would have preferred that the poll worker err on the side of caution, and not wear the button.

            But she’s a Batshit Bachmann supporter, so we already know she’s dumber than a stump.

      • According to

        Snopes: Merely wearing shirts and buttons doesn’t constitute electioneering as long as no other attempts to influence voters.

        It also addresses that state to state and even within a state rules/regs aren’t consistent.

      • That’s completely a violation. After you’d voted (to make sure you get to) you could have called her on it and demand she remove it. Of course, if she’s that brazen she’d probably pin it right back on.

        Thank FSM, once again, for 100% vote by mail.

        • And on top of that, for the special election to replace Rep. Wu, election officials are taking iPads into nursing homes and community centers. Not only is this a boon for people with limited mobility, but the iPad allows them to increase the size of the font to make it easier to vote.

  28. Maybe the Cook Islands are not so great…

    Although fun-loving and friendly, Cook Islanders, like Tahitians and other Polynesians, are a conservative and generally religious people who cleave to their customary way of life and culture. They do not fit the ill-founded Western myth that they are loose-living hedonists of easy morals. The early missionaries stamped their indelible print on these islands in the 19th century.

    I suspect that besides me there are one or two other loose-living hedonists critters at this zoo.

    • He’s proven temperamental. Can’t keep control of his emotions.
      Being a GOoPer gives him a pass so he continues being a pre-teen in demeanor.

    • That’s a great smack down. 1 more year for people to show that the GnoP are NOT for the people.

  29. Cain: ‘I’m Not An Expert In How The Brain Works’

    Herman Cain, responding to a question on whether he would remember more about these new accusations, said, it’s a “remote possibility.”

    Cain said he’s pretty good at remembering people, but not an “expert in how the brain works.”

    Obviously. 🙄

      • I think Herb is Exhibit A in the “kicking incompetence upstairs” question.

        Lawd knows, he’s done well for himself, but I do wonder if he’s the idiot token who just kept getting the promotions.

        Is that racist? I know it’s not charitable, but I don’t want to be spouting racist bullshit.

    • It’s hard enough for him to remember if he jacked off 3 or 4 times in the last week, never mind going hard after a blow job years ago.

  30. TPM Election Scoreboard
    OH — ISSUE 2 (SB 5) Votes
    Yes 36%
    No 64%
    10% reporting

    MS – INITIATIVE 26 Votes
    Yes 25% 40
    No 75% 118

    • I would have kneed, Joey’s character, in the groin, just for good measure!

      It does fit Cain! I’m expecting Gloria Cain will be saying adios to “Herb” in the not to distant future.

  31. OH — ISSUE 2 (SB 5)
    Yes 36% = 323,712
    No 64% = 561,622
    17% reporting

    This race has been called in favor of No on Issue 2. Yahoo!!

  32. MS – INITIATIVE 26
    Yes 45% = 1,254
    No 55% = 1,533
    <1% reporting

    This one will likely be neck and neck all night. I hope like hell it fails.

      • Every time I hear it, all I can think is how dare they. How dare they reduce a woman to a despised and disposable vessel for carrying cells that may or may not end in a living child? How dare they so little value a woman’s life — a woman who has lived, loved, been loved, and contributed to the world, even in some small way? She has value because SHE IS HERE.

    • People are catching on that voting for the Tea/Repub candidates and their nonsense is voting against ones own best interest!

  33. Kentucky Governor Beshear wins over the anto-Hindu bigot.

    This is a good day for democracy, and a very bad day, I think, for Fux Gnus and the Koch Bros.

  34. I’m pretty sure that I’ve mentioned how much disgust I have for FAUX”News”, at least, in passing. But? They have reached a whole new low in their attacks against KochCain’s alleged victims. Take a look if you can stomach it. If not? Let me say that the ones who disgust me the most are the, alleged, women. I sincerely hope that the whole damn bunch of them get fired because they won’t put out.

    • Thank goodness! If MS won’t vote for this, no state will. Women may not have to die in order to fulfill someone’s twisted interpretation of God’s desire.

  35. A long election day. My ex state senator, after redistricting, is currently leading by 2 (yes 2) votes over the fundie candidate. When I went to the polls there was a man standing just inside the door telling folks they needed a photo ID. I corrected him, as that is not the law in VA, and went home to check my facts. Sho’nuff, I’m right. Whatever do I do about this now?

      • I went back but the guy was gone. I called the registrar who confirmed my interpretation of the rules, but could do nothing since I don’t know who he was or why he was there. I think I’ll write about it in our local paper and see if anyone else had the same experience.

  36. Good news in Arizona… Russell Pearce is trailing his opponent in the recall election in Mesa so far. Pearce is a racist bastard that is also our defacto governor, since Jan Brewer couldn’t govern if her life depended on it.

  37. And … the lobbyist is losing to the former city council member as Phoenix’s mayor.

  38. Sounds good LL. VA is going down to the wire as to whether Rs or Ds will control our legislature. I’d like to whack the folks that think their vote doesn’t matter upside the head.

      • About 30% in my county, low for federal election, which this is not, but high for an off year. We had some hotly contested local races. The VA-17 state senate race will be recounted. With all precincts reporting the vote is +204 for the D candidate. When it’s that close, you can see how one vote can make a big difference.

  39. G’nite folks. I’ll find out if my state is destined to be controlled by wackos in the morning. I also had parent-teacher conference today. One on my son’s teachers inquired about his heritage. She had assumed he spoke spanish because he looks hispanic. He told her he could not understand her spanish and that he was black. He came from Guatemala at 10 mos. old. He only thinks he’s black because when studying the history of discrimination in the south he realized that those folks who would not serve “people of color” at their lunch counter would also not serve him.

  40. Speaking of Dems versus Reps, I had another glorious opportunity today to ask a rude government employee; “Are you a Republican?”
    However, being the gracious progressive that I am, and a government employee myself, I simply nodded knowingly and said: “I understand, it’s the off season, and all of the nice people are laid off…”

  41. It sure does look like the shine is wearing off the teabaggers. I guess that people are paying attention to their disastrous policies. Still, it would be nice to hear someone from the “big three” networks dare to use the word “obstructionism”.

    G’night, good people.

  42. Well, I just regretted not drowning my youngest when it would have been easier to hide the body. Damn, they grow so fast…

    It’s been a pretty good day overall. 😉

  43. Zooey just gets so annoyed when Zooey hears Herman Cain refer to Herman Cain in the third person. It makes Zooey want to extend Zooey’s hand and smack Herman Cain on the back of the head.

    Zooey doesn’t approve of physical violence (except when needing to drown one of Zooey’s children), but Zooey can think about smacking Herman Cain in Zooey’s imagination.

    • my imagination/fantasy is the ability to make politicians piss/crap in their pants at any moment I wish. The scenerios are unlimited, and the results strangley satisfying. Maybe I need more sleep or take a long trip.

      • That would be a truly amazing power, nwoldguy.

        If you ever develop it, make sure you give me a heads-up so I can get out of sniffing range. 😀

  44. Even if the repiggies win a few races here and there, today has been a huge WIN for the Dems and the people.

    Naturally, the Fux crowd will try to diminish these results, but we need to be out there crowing about these victories from the rooftops — and keep up the energy until November 2012.

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