Watering Hole: Monday, February 6th – Deaf in the Military

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  1. Deaf Smith was late deafened and his role since then was in intelligence, not combat. I personally know deaf Israelis and they spoke Hebrew and English very well and did not rely on gestures although they were deaf. The person giving the speech in ASL seems to be under the mistaken belief Israelis like Americans are completely mute and rely on gestures. Furthermore, he dwells on accommodations, liability issues for interpreters, misunderstandings. Isn’t that precisely the reason? His platoon can get thinned and he could be forced to join another which requires everything to be taught all over again. Nobody has the time to do that especially in war. It is admirable he wants to join the military but we need to be realistic. I worked in the Department of Defense and provided strategy although I am profoundly deaf.

  2. So I finally learn about “Deaf Smith.” A small AZ agricultural company I worked for in the early 70’s had sales offices in numerous western states, including Texas. One of the offices was in a small town south of Amarillo in the panhandle, a town called Dimmit which was, if memory serves properly, the County Seat of Castro County, the county just to the south of Deaf Smith County, the County Seat of which was Hereford. I remember all of that nonsense for one reason: along the highway that crossed the border between Castro and Deaf Smith counties there was a huge billboard advertising a liquor store that must have been just about on the County Line. One county was ‘dry’, see, and the other wasn’t. I can’t remember which was dry and which wasn’t, but I do remember stopping at that joint practically every time I made the trip. It was, in a word, how I spelled “R E L I E F”.

    Nice to know what/who was behind the name “Deaf Smith.” Exactly why that’s nice to know I’m not sure, but am guessing it probably has something to do with dry vs. wet. Strange world, this one. And in Texas, the world is even more strange … and apparently is destined to stay that way if recent political history is any sort of marker.

  3. Ego unbounded: Donald Trump told Fox News that his endorsement was key to Mitt Romney’s big victory in the Nevada caucuses on Saturday.

    Said Trump: “There was a lot riding on that particular race in Nevada and it was interesting, because the numbers were much, much greater than you thought. And a lot of people are giving me credit for that. And I will accept that credit.”

    • Waiting for TrumpDuck’s head to explode as he decompresses in November after Obama wipes the floor with rMoney’s ass.

    • There’s something very fishy about all that. Trump hints one day he’s going to endorse Gingritch, then Romney the next.
      All from Las Vegas, and the Nevada caucus’.
      My take is that he was stoking the local gambling economy.
      Trump is now nothing more than a game show host, and he’s profiting by turning the political process into “Who Wants To Be President”

    • Can you imagine living with that blowhard?

      “Yes dear, you made the sun come up.”
      “Yes dear, this dinner tastes so wonderful because you’re eating it.”
      “Yes dear, if it weren’t for you missing this toilet all the time, this bathroom wouldn’t shine the way it does.”
      “Yes dear, you are the king of hairstyle trend-setters.”
      “Yes dear, the pool glistens and my tan is stunning, because you hire the best pool boys.”

  4. Home sick today. Watching TV and the corresponding daytime commercials that seem to prey upon the poor.

    Western Sky Financial. An attractive Native American woman said she could put $5000 into my checking account tomorrow. She admitted “it’s not cheap” to do so. She commented that it’s better than a payday loan. As the commercial ended, I thought I saw APR in the fine print. So I used the DVR to go back and look. The APR was listed at 116%.

    Did some Googling and found this write up by a BBB out Oklahoma.

    While their claim is true that it’s cheaper than a payday loan, that only seems to look at the APR (which can be 300%) on a payday loan. But payday loans tend to have a short duration, so they never hit the annualized rate of the APR. The Western Sky offer is a multi-year loan. According the BBB write up that 5,000 loan can end up costing you 40,000 to repay.

    Another aspect of this is that if you agree to the loan, you are also giving up your rights under state and federal law.

    “All borrowers must consent to be bound to the jurisdiction of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribal Court, and further agree that no other state or federal law or regulation shall apply to this Loan Agreement, its enforcement or interpretation.”

    Preying upon the poor is bad.

  5. The biggest problem with Komen isn’t so much its political decision to stop funding Planned Parenthood’s breast exam programs. It’s the fact that so little of their money – money they collect “For the Cure” – goes to fund cancer research. For the most recent year that numbers are available (2010), only 19% of total revenue was used to fund research. Komen’s biggest expenditure is “education” – 37%. Really? People aren’t aware that breast cancer is a danger?


  6. One of the most disgusting political ads you’ll see from one of Congress’ dumbest members. Nice stereotype, how about having a black person speaking in slave dialect next?

  7. Have you all noticed that the corner drug store is gone?

    At least anywhere near me. And for a while it was local chains, then regional chains, now it’s just big box stores. Lately I’ve been using the Target pharmacy. It’s near the clinic where my Dr is; which is also near where I live. And it’s also where I’ve been tending to shop for groceries and other things of late. (Seems like the lesser of two evils between Target and Walmart. Local options for those goods have all but dried up.)

    I don’t have any complaint with the pharmacy at Target. The people are nice and helpful. It’s just that it’s tucked in at the end of some aisles as an afterthought. There’s no rhyme or reason as to how to line up for service. It’s chaotic.

    I need to go and get a prescription filled today (and pick up another one that was called in). I’m dreading it. It shouldn’t be that way.

    So I googled to see if there were any corner drug stores left in the area. They’re gone.

    I had been going to Snyder, which was a local/regional chain. I liked them. Essentially Walgreen like; stand-alone stores typically. Walgreen actually bought them out and shuttered most of them. The bastards. I really can’t stand Walgreen. The one near my house always seems notoriously understaffed. The wait times are abhorrent. And checking out at any Walgreen seems really hit or miss in terms of speed and efficiency. Sometimes they’re stellar. Other times they’re I’ve literally walked out without making my purchase.

    (Okay, sorry for the rant. Guess I’m just cranky today.)

    • We have two choices for pharmaceuticals. We can do the sixty mile round trip to Pueblo and go to either Walgreens or Walmart, or we can walk a block to our local “corner” drug, Jeff’s Pharmacy.

      Care to guess which one we use?

      There are, still, some advantages to living in a tee-tiny small town. 😉

    • We have a Pro Pharmacy franchise that’s very much like a corner drug but, since there’s a Walgreen’s within walking distance, I use Walgreen’s for my prescriptions. Luckily, my neighborhood is saturated with pharmacies so I’ve never had any problems with their service. The worst part is that the lead pharmacist is a near double of Eric Cantor. I try to go in on weekends and evenings so he doesn’t give me the creeps!

    • That evokes a childhood of the local pharmacy (Hester Drugs) delivering!

      The Peter Wheat Bread truck used to drive through the neighborhood once a week. It’s distinctive horn sounded the arrival of a panoply of baked goods: cookies; pastries; doughnuts; rolls and of course bread. (we could only look, inhale the aroma and drool as the prices were much higher than the local bakery around the corner so we never got to buy off the truck).

    • I’ve been using the same family-owned pharmacy since the 1980s and am very happy to do so. I suspect they’ve managed to hang on because of my employer and PGE, both of which offer great health benefits with excellent prescription coverage. I work at the main office/garage for local transit, which means a buttload of drivers, maintenance workers, office workers, etc at least visit this location every day. The pharmacy is maybe 10 blocks away.

    • I have a Propst Drugs that is not a chain, here in the neighborhood. Across the street is a Star Market which was bought by a former pharmacist of Propst’s, and he added a pharmacy in the market. He has expanded the Star chain locally to several stores. When I didn’t have insurance, I called around to get non-insurance prices, and Star was cheap enough to keep me from having to go to WalMart.

  8. Uh oh. Ruth Bader Ginsburg suggested that Egypt use South Africa’s constitution instead of the US Constitution as a model. This has the crazies at <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/06/ginsburg-to-egyptians-wouldnt-use-us-constitution-as-model/"Foxnews.com all in an uproar.

    Some of the comments:

    This dumbass-bitch needs to be hauled out back and shot for treason.

    -So what would this supposed champion of the Constitution use?
    Salinsky’s memoirs? Aherns writings? The Communist Manifesto?
    You have to be kidding me/ No wonder our country is in such dire straights when
    one of the few supposed defenders of the faith have so little regard for it.

    -Impeach this crazy piece of demo-crat sh**t and then send her to South Africa. Good riddance

    -this is how the bolsheviks did it before..first our monetary system…now our courts government and schools….

    -oddly enough you’d be hard pressed to see her using the constitution we have now??? gotta love progressive liberals??? thanks to billy boy we are stuck with her…..

    The stupidity, and paranoia over there are unbelievable.

    • Well, most of these people seem to think that the U.S. Constitution is simply a rehash of the Old Testament. Plus the mere suggestion that any country might have anything better than us makes them insane(er) with rage. And, obviously, they don’t think about the fact that the Constitution has been amended 27 times. That would fly in the face of their belief that America is perfect (except for all the dirty libruls).

      • The wingnuts also are so frickin’ ignorant that it would never occur to them that Egypt is not the US, nor is South Africa. South Africa’s constitution was written in completely different circumstances than ours, to resolve completely different issues (and populations).

        One size does not fit all but since none of these morons has actually read ours, much less any of the letters and essays that went into writing it, it’s a meaningless article of faith with them, not an actual structure for governing.

        • They also fail to realize that most modern constitutions, including South Africa’s, had the benefit of drawing on the U.S. Constitution for inspiration. Despite being, technically, a conservative in it’s old meaning I still look to the latest, new and improved, ideas rather than misplacing my confidence in the oldest dogma.

          • What’s interesting, is if the righties would actually read the South African constitution, they may actually like it. God is mentioned in the preamble.


            “We, the people of South Africa,
            Recognise the injustices of our past;
            Honour those who suffered for justice and freedom in our land;
            Respect those who have worked to build and develop our country; and
            Believe that South Africa belongs to all who live in it, united in our diversity.
            We therefore, through our freely elected representatives, adopt this Constitution as the supreme law of the Republic so as to —
            Heal the divisions of the past and establish a society based on democratic values, social justice and fundamental human rights;
            Lay the foundations for a democratic and open society in which government is based on the will of the people and every citizen is equally protected by law;
            Improve the quality of life of all citizens and free the potential of each person; and
            Build a united and democratic South Africa able to take its rightful place as a sovereign state in the family of nations.
            May God protect our people.
            Nkosi Sikelel’ iAfrika. Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso.
            God seën Suid-Afrika. God bless South Africa.
            Mudzimu fhaṱutshedza Afurika. Hosi katekisa Afrika.”

            I like how it lays out some of the protections of our bill of rights, up in the preamble.

        • They also don’t realize that the US Constitution was the 2nd attempt at this by our founding fathers. The Articles of Confederation came first, and they realized that it wasn’t workable, long term (not a strong enough federal government). Then came the Constitution we have now (with it’s strong federal government).

    • Pete, you wouldn’t happen to be “independent_mn” on Fox’s comments blog would you?

      independent_mn Just now in reply to emjay
      She is NOT disparaging the US Constitution. She is simply saying that the South African Constitution is a better model for a modern coutry to follow. That is not treasonous – it’s an honest opinion with which I completely concur. Have you READ the South African Constitution???

      • Nope. Not me. I haven’t even tried to comment at a Reich-wing blog since Red State (or was it Freeperville?) banned me for submitting “what WMD?”. That was several years ago.

        • I got banned at Redstate after 36 hours – it was something about having Donald Rumsfeld put an end to all the doubts about WMD once and for all ….

          …. by producing the receipts.

          I wrote it Colbert-style …. I had fun….

    • One of the things I miss the most about living in my old house in the country is the owls. We had a nesting pair of Great Grays that displaced the horned owls. The parents would teach their young to hunt moles and rabbits in the back yard. (Note: The sounds of a Great Gray owl hitting a rabbit are blood curdling. It actually cost me a girlfriend who was freaked out about what sounded like a baby being tortured.) We would also have long “conversations”. Kids really got a kick out of me talking to the owls and/or coyotes.

  9. I really hope that the Komen disaster doesn’t hurt the efforts against cancer or any other worthy charity. That being said; if they don’t fire Handel and if Brinker doesn’t forfeit control and her obscene salary? They, Komen, should be left to die on the vine. Partisan hacks have no place running a charity.

      • I called for Handel’s firing immediately. Once it became known that she was implicated, and given her past, that was the only thing Komen could do.

        • Me too. When she ran for governor she included defunding PP as a key part of her whole campaign. Then she got hired by a “non-profit”, at an obscene salary, and decided to implement her agenda without the benefit of elected office. I would say that, in order for them to have any hope of continuing to do good work, everyone involved has to go and they need to stop paying such obscene salaries to any of their officials. I don’t make charitable donations so that anyone can live in luxury and/or funnel their earnings to political causes.

      • I’m not quite ready to go that far. Yet.

        I think that, beginning with the removal of their leadership, they can redeem themselves. Education, advertising, and awareness can be as important as hard research and I think they have done both. I’m dead certain that people, upon seeing the whole pink ribbon campaign, have given to other cancer charities though that would probably be impossible to quantify. I actually have more problem with their salaries, and subsequent donations to Reich-wing politicians, then their marketing strategy and allotment of funds.

        But? If Handel and/or Brinker are still there for another week or so I think they’re toast and it’s well-deserved.

    • I think Komen started out well but has fallen prey to the glitz. They seem much more concerned with brand marketing and their status than in actually doing what they started out to do.

    • He’s a Senator, actually. As to your question, I do not know. Wyden has put a lot of time and effort into his “health reform plan” but I’ve never been able to follow it or ‘splain why he veers so wildly from his reliably liberal voting record on this one subject.

      You may want to dig through the archives at BlueOregon.com, where I know this subject has been rehashed a number of times. Except right now I can’t get the website to come up at all.

    • His name’s Maxwell? All pigs in our house are called Steve – especially AndytheTurtle’s pig pillow pet….. so whenever the pig shows up on his luge or his zip line the cry ‘Steve! Steve!’ goes up.

  10. The first I knew of the Komen organization was from idly watching a collectible car auction on the Speed ‘network’ back when I still cable (a couple of years ago).

    As much as I appreciate cars for reasons far beyond their utility (hence my reason for watching the show) I was struck by the specific Komen auction and the venue ( and means) by which they had chosen to raise money in this instance.

    My donations to American charitable and/or public service programs have been necessarily limited over the years, but have largely consisted of contributions to Planned Parenthood, the ASPCA, PBS, NPR, the Red Cross and personal cash contributions to the many genuinely ‘down-on their-luck’ people I’ve encountered;multiple times a year, every year.

    The Kamen organization presented a desirable car and a little girl, a cancer survivor, who made an appeal for the cause, followed by Nancy Brinker (I’m pretty sure) who steadfastly ‘guilted’ the audience into bidding from something like $70,000 to a final figure of something like $250,000, which sounds impressive until one considers the actual accounting and exactly what was being bought and sold.

    The car in question was a racing ‘stock-car’ of utterly nominal ‘pedigree’, suitable only for track and a practiced (or practicing) driver if it was to be used at all.
    It might have been ‘worth’ $100,000 to a particularly partial bidder (or an agent who could sell it for more to a partial client). Given that, the bidder’s charitable contribution would actually be $150,000, not $250,000 of course. The bidder would then of course be able to write-off a significant proportion of charitable contribution (40%, I think).
    That’s fine, but it doesn’t quite satisfy the spirit of charity does it?
    The entire process wasn’t so much charity as an exchange that monetarily favored the charity, but that psychologically and socially favored the winning bidder.

    It’s great that the Komen Foundation scored a (presumably) $150,000 donation, but in that venue millions had already been spent on pure self-indulgent whimsy without a thought,

    When I give $20 to the ASPCA I don’t get a flea collar or chew-toy in partial recompense, If I give $5 to a homeless person I don’t get a receipt and write it off on my taxes, and I don’t get written-up in the society pages either.. I give what I can give, when I can give, because the benefit I can provide is simply more meaningful than the my ‘personal’ or relative ‘impoverishment’.

    Apart from the right-wing politics involved in the Komen/PP debacle (obvious to any vaguely critical thinker who paid attention to the publicly declared sociopolitical interests of the CUNT that instigated it) there are the inconsistencies in the public justifications of the Komen organization’s actions—Planned Parenthood was supposedly excluded from funding this year for being “under investigation”, never mind that various other recipients of Komen funds are also currently “under investigation”, and never mind that the ‘investigation” is under the aegis of the Republican Party and not the DOJ or any other Federal authority, such as the IRS. Furthermore it was already and still is an established FACT that NO KOMEN FUNDS, nor any FEDERAL FUNDS, are applied to PP’s abortion services (by law!) which also happen to be among the least significant, statistically and monetarily, of the services PP provides.

    Given these facts, it was OBVIOUS that the KOMEN organization’s policy change was probably politically motivated, and it would appear that the Huffington Post now has hard evidence to support such a deduction.

    I imagine that Brinker’s original establishment of the Komen organization was sincere;y charitable and it’s subsequent identity-development was presumably initially designed to contributions in practical proportion to its mission, but as soon as it started claiming what amounted to trademark rights on the phrase “the cure” from other charities, it was obvious th Komen organization had become a business, which happened to pay Brinker a multi-million-dollar salary even though she was already a multi-millionaire.(by marriage).

    At the time of the auction that I witnessed on TV, Brinker could herself have anonymously bid $500,000 for that stupid car, received more publicity for her organization, written-off a sizable proportion on her taxes and funded more research and provided more care than the person she cajoled to contribute to her cause.

    • That about covers it. During the years that SGK has been operating Ms. Brinker has funneled a significant portion of her obscene salary to GOP politicians and causes. I don’t give to charities that pay salaries that allow their officers to live in the lap of luxury and buy politicians. Period!

  11. I have become very leery of charitable organizations over the years. It started when I discovered the chair of the local United Way lived in once of the ritziest homes in town.

  12. Keith was a bit unkind about Madonna’s lack of mobility during her halftime show. He must have missed this.
    Madonna Injured: Half Time Show Will Go On

    Madonna injured her hamstring and ended up with a cut on her nose from intense Super Bowl half time show rehearsals, but like any good athlete she intends to play through the pain on Sunday.

    • Hey… the show must go on. My daughter took dance lessons and the one thing that she learned is that even when dancers are in pain, they must still dance. I’m no fan of Madonna but good for her. She gave it her best shot despite the injury.

    • Uh oh. Rove was not pleased by it.

      “I was, frankly, offended by it,” Rove said on Fox News Monday. “I’m a huge fan of Clint Eastwood, I thought it was an extremely well-done ad, but it is a sign of what happens when you have Chicago-style politics, and the president of the United States and his political minions are, in essence, using our tax dollars to buy corporate advertising.”

      Notice how he got the “Chicago-style politics” meme in there. And while not actually saying it was tax dollars that paid for it, a well-crafted juxtaposition of terms will lead the typical rightie believing that it was.

      The Salon article I reference here goes on to suggest that if the ad seemed like an Obama speech it’s because “the GOP has ceded optimism to the Democrats.”


        • Sorry, but I don’t believe that could be any farther from the truth. How often did they reference Chrysler? The script was all about America coming back, about Detroit coming back and the images supported all that. We didn’t see shiny new cars tearing down the highway, we saw people and they were working class people.

          We were reminded that the economy of this country has always been greatest when we were actually making things — things that people wanted to buy. As far as I’m concerned it was far more than a car commercial. Karl Rove should be freaked out because it was incredibly well-done propaganda and a slap in the face to plutocracy.

          • It’s not uncommon for ads to be low key in showing/mentioning the product. They play upon other themes/moods/feelings, and then try to link the good vibe to the product in question. Perhaps they don’t use a nationalist theme to do so, and that’s where this one is different. But it’s a common technique, imo.

      • Chrysler took government money. Therefore, any money they spend on anything is “tax dollars”. It doesn’t matter that they are paying the money back and the evil government will collect many times what they put in.

        So say the Reichwhiners.

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