The Watering Hole: Tuesday, February 7 – Picture of the Day

HT: Political Carnival and Twitter User @gottalaff

This goes without any comment from me.

Fellow Critter Wayne A.Schneider mentioned this in yesterday’s comments and I think it is today’s must read: The Washington Post

This is seriously good reporting and shows which lawmakers need to be replaced in Congress. Be it Democratic or Republican.

This is our Open Thread. Weigh in!

208 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: Tuesday, February 7 – Picture of the Day

    • If Bush hadn’t removed the U.S. from the International Criminal Court, this soldier would have faced an international tribunal. So would a lot of others, including Bush&Co.

  1. Of course there are earmarks close to politicians’ properties. That’s why they got into politics in the first place(snark). I’m not really bothered by earmarks because some of these earmarks are the only way that money can get filtered into infrastructure improvements. Putting in a bike path across a public bridge is a good thing. Filling in sand on one’s personal island, not so good.

    • But basing a decision on how much it will earn a congressperson is still very wrong. I think people will know whether the earmarks were in their interest or not. If not, get rid of your Representative.

      • My rep. is ISSA. No way in hell is he going to be challenged. The majority loves him.
        As of Decemver ’12, we are redistricted to DUNCAN HUNTER JR’s district. Equally as disgusting and a clear winner in the elections. Dumb shit riding on the coattails of his equally dumb, law breaking father.

  2. I told my sister and brother weeks ago that you can’t spell Romney without m-o-n-e-y and then proceeded to spell it “Rmoney.”

    My sister photoshopped a Romney campaign banner (with the red, white and blue ‘R’) and I tried to use it for my gravatar but it’s too wide to fit. Damnit.

    • And here’s your jump off point for the Koch Industries.

      Not surprised of course that once you get past the reading about doing business in Iran in violation of sanctions, the dropping of charges against Koch 3 days after Chimpy becomes president etc etc etc…. the ‘follow the money’ fact about Keystone comes up….

      … the Koch brothers control 25% of the tar sands oil, the terminal in Alberta and a refinery at the proposed other end of the pipeline….. well whaddayaknow – no wonder getting this pipeline built gives John Boner the shakes at night…

    • Some of the comments are blood-curdling. Those tend to be from the US, of course. “Obama is said to have a trillion dollar warchest!” and apparently all of the social welfare programs that Obama has grown exponentially (really? where?) are part of his warchest. We need those billionaires pouring money into the anti-Obama campaign just to keep up with the Dems! and save the planet!

  3. Obama is sending back donations from the drug dealers – which is obviously the right thing to do. BUT now the drug dealers can send that money to a super pac!!

    • Really I don’t even care as long as he wins. I can’t imagine dealing with Romney or worse. I know it’s wrong but as long as it’s the system I want Obama to take advantage of it.

      • I agree. My point being that you never know who is contributing to a super pac. Hell, how many Saudi’s have given money to GOP super pacs!

    • Here in PA, we are just waiting to kick Santorum’s dupa, again. Yes, let him win a few more States. I can’t stand to hear Romney speak. Even his voice is condescending. When talks to the crowd, he sounds like he talking to a class of pre-schoolers. I rest my case.

  4. Another great part of the announcement was a second decision where they said Judge Walker didn’t need to recuse himself because he’s gay. That was just so typical of the right-wing smear machine. A straight judge could be objective on the issue, but a gay judge clearly could not. I suspect SCOTUS will leave that one alone, and that’s a victory against bigotry by itself.

  5. Funny. I got to various news websites, and they all have had at least a blurb at the top about the Prop 8 ruling. Except one. Fox. They haven’t updated their home page since 1:08 Eastern (as of this writing).

    Wonder why?

      • And this is probably full-crisis mode for them. Of course, they’ll start with activist judges; disparage the 9th circuit as being in San Fran, etc. They’ll screech until your ears bleed that Walker is gay and that he was biased.

        Actually, it may not be that the well has run dry. They may actually have so much hate they can run with, they just don’t know where to begin.

      • They’re waiting till after lunch. Their corporate fast food, cheap beer and for-profit health care sponsors have to be taken into consideration.
        Need to make sure the core demographic of Fox watchers have a belly full of whoppers, a few Buds, and the emergency rooms are ready when they break the news.

    • That particular article only addresses:

      At Four intersections on Highway 321, seven people died in crashes in 2003.

      (Highway 321 same as Lamar Alexander Parkway)

  6. Excerpts from the court decision re Prop 8 from TP:

    – All Proposition 8 accomplished was to take away from same-sex couples the right to be granted marriage licenses and thus legally to use the designation of ‘marriage,’ which symbolizes state legitimation and social recognition of their committed relationships. Proposition 8 serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and dignity of gays and lesbians in California, and to officially reclassify their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite-sex couples. The Constitution simply does not allow for “laws of this sort.”
    – The People may not employ the initiative power to single out a disfavored group for unequal treatment and strip them, without a legitimate justification, of a right as important as the right to marry.
    – That designation [of marriage] is important because ‘marriage’ is the name that society gives to the relationship that matters most between two adults. A rose by any other name may smell as sweet, but to the couple desiring to enter into a committed lifelong relationship, a marriage by the name of ‘registered domestic partnership’ does not.
    – A law that has no practical effect except to stip one group of the right to use a state-authorized and socially meaningful designation is all the more “unprecedented” and “unusual” than a law that imposes broader changes, and raises an even stronger “interference that the disadvantage imposed is born of animosity toward the class of persons affected.”

    • The economy is improving and the Reichwhiners will never admit it. The fun, if scary, part is that is that it just makes them more unhinged with each passing day. Despite the risks that works for us sane folk.

    • I went for my Gyn exam this morning and I met with the Nurse Practitioner (since I’m a nurse, I’m partial to nurses) and we started discussing tests and whether insurance pays for these tests or not. It was an interesting conversation because we both remembered and agreed that when people paid cash for their doctor visits, the visits were affordable because there wasn’t a need for all the other office employees that are hired just to handle insurance claims. Since the insurance companies took over the doctors, our health care has gone down the tubes.

    • I hope that the implication that it died of natural causes is true. There’s just no reason to kill these harmless creatures. I think I even recall reading that they have chemicals in their flesh that make them inedible though I could be wrong on that.

        • They store urea in their meat, this makes it inedible. Some Inuit ferment the meat to be able to eat it (tipnuk) and in TCM and chinese food it plays a role as well. They are near extinct.

          Thanks Google! I learned something today.

            • And thus maybe not really dead or dying before caught. They’re protected now at least in certain areas, in India according to net lore (I am trying to read more on this fascinating animal) the fishermen of three villages caught about a thousand of them, so they were protected after that.

          • I was shark-obsessed in high school, even dissected a dog shark in biology class. That’s been a long time, but what I remember is that all sharks use urea to maintain their body’s pH. Hmm, no, maintain osmotic balance with the water surrounding them (had to double-check). In any event, shark meat is not inedible, but it requires treatment before cooking to flush the meat and eliminate potential ammonia flavor. i know it’s edible, ’cause I’ve et it.

            • Gummitch, I’ve seen a documentary once on some Scandiavian and on how he cured he meat of Whale shark. He had a hut somewhere very far from human habitation and the tv guy said he smell was eyewatering to say the least. I haven’t eaten shark meat yet and will most probably never do it. There may be different shark flavours.

              Were you Matt Hooper style shark crazy? 🙂

        • They are edible. In fact, according to the Whale Shark Project, the meat is highly prized in parts of Asia. They are also protected in many of the countries where they live — which probably just increases the value of their parts.

          I had them confused in my brain with Basking Sharks, which seem to prefer cooler waters. As a kid I was blown away by the 1934 documentary, Man of Aran, which painted an incredibly bleak picture of the people of this grim Irish island, where the women crushed rocks to make soil for potatoes and the men hunted the giant sharks in rowboats much smaller than the sharks. Annnnnd, it all turns out to be bogus, at least in the sense that by 1934 none of this was true and hadn’t been for decades. Pah.

          • EV, I ran out of replies. In one episode of Tony Bourdain’s show he landed in Iceland just at the beginning of one of their festivals, where he was served their great treat — and served it again and again as he traveled around the country. The treat? Putrefied shark meat, which he said was just about the most disgusting thing he’d ever eaten.

            Grilled shark meat is very firm and not at all putrefied or ammonia-laden. Delicious.

            • I saw that episode. Bourdain will try anything, and he should in his business, but he suffered through that one. 😀

        • I’d have called he vet 😳 Whenever I am on a hunt (.not hunting, just watching) , I pray no animal will get hurt. My presence is good karma for he beasts, last time only one fool of a deer ran into a car, no boar was hurt.

  7. The Prop 8 ruling. Read it here:

  8. Another break from politics: I just went outside on my break, and was treated to the sight of THREE red-tailed hawks circling around above our office grounds. One backed off from the others and headed over the hill behind us, the other two continued to circle close together and then disappeared over the opposite hill.

    Tomorrow when I go out on my afternoon break, I’ll take my camera with me just in case!

    • Karen, Karen, Karen it’s not nice to prevaricate:

      ..without interference, let alone the level of vicious attacks and coercion that has occurred by Planned Parenthood.

      it was the public coming to the defense of PP that attacked your political move!

      • You know that. I know that. We know that. But the Faux”News” worshipers are buying the tale that the “librul media” was “outraged” and forced Komen to “bow to political pressure”. The truth, of course, is that their donors dried up and the officers are facing the loss of their obscene salaries.

    • Handel denounced Susan G. Komen’s critics and said that the private foundation’s decisions on how it disburses money should be free from outside pressures. Unfortunately for her, she also stomped all over that argument when she tried to justify Komen’s initial decision to cut off Planned Parenthood.

      Those critics, perhaps, being those who have given the foundation money, and are no longer satisfied that the money goes where it should, and that the foundation is truly good stewards of those donations?

      • Indeed. The fact that they cut off PP is, to me, almost irrelevant. I am far more disgusted by the revelations about where their donations actually go; especially those obscene salaries I keep harping on.

    • The economy is picking up, the Occupy movement has cast the fat cats in an unfavorable light, and given what the goopers have coughed up for candidates, Obama’s not looking so bad…

      • There is a poll that shows that Obama is “likable” and research has shown that people do business with people that they like. Same thing can probably be said about politics and jobs. People voted for Bush because he was “likable”. People voted for Reagan because he was “likable” and the same can be said about Clinton. People will vote for the person that they feel they can “have a beer with”. Romney is not likable. He is condescending to his audience. All Obama needs to do to disarm people is flash that ear to ear smile.

  9. A patriot at heart fights City Hall over free speech

    You really ought to give this a read. Robin Hensel is very outspoken about exercising her right to free speech and shares her opinion in a variety of forums for pro-liberal causes, such as peace and health care. Of course she’s received death threats for this.

    She took to putting up issue-oriented signs in her yard. Complaints to the city, caused the city to invoke a rule that political signage can only be placed in yards within a certain time before/after an election. Hensel was in violate and ordered to take down the signs.

    She retaliated by asking the city to remove a “We Support the Troops” sign that was in the public square for the last 10 years.

    People wrote to the local newspaper and made comments that Hensel should be deported or sent to Iraq. Other residents began a petition to keep the banner to support the troops, though they didn’t seem to care too much about whether Hensel’s free speech was being violated.

    “This in no way is meant to belittle or criticize people in the military,” she said. Rather, it’s about the hypocrisy of the city telling her to take down signs when its own is not in compliance.

    She’s moved her yard signs to her windows, and also put some on her van so she can drive around town and share her views.

    The issue on removing the sign from city hall is still pending.

    • This story reminded me.

      Some months ago i told you folks about the teabagger down the street. He put up great big anti-government signs about the time that President Obama won the nomination. He’s rotated the smaller ones about various freedoms but has kept up the one that quotes Thomas Jefferson saying: “When the people fear the government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people there is liberty”. Well? He threw me a curve.

      Down in the lower right-hand corner of the Jefferson banner he has added a “99%”.

      • It’s not unusual for communities to have a general prohibition against signage and then have an exception for seasonal political signs. They can argue that it’s for aesthetic reasons rather than political. Of course, my instinct is to tell anyone with the damn gall to tell me I have to mow my lawn to “go to Hell” so I have small sympathy for anyone trying to tell their neighbors what their yards should contain.

      • Indeed. And what gets me is the the (over)reaction by righties to different points of view.

        If I see a sign or a bumper sticker I don’t like, I get on with my life. It may be annoying, but that’s the extent of it.

        A rightie sees a sign or bumper sticker they don’t like, and they seem to feel that the person who displays it is evil and must die.

        • I had an Obama/Biden sticker in the back window of my car. My car was vandalized – both back taillights were bashed out. (to the tune of $400 EACH)
          I also had a sticker on the outside of the back window of my truck. IT was torn off.
          Nice people, huh?
          Seen in my area: I’LL KEEP MY GUNS AND FREEDOM. YOU KEEP THE “CHANGE”.

            • When I was in Idaho, I never had any trouble with vandalism, but I never could keep an ACLU sticker on the car. It was always scraped off fairly soon. No damage, thank goodness.

              They didn’t bother my Obama and liberal stickers, although one yahoo tried to run me into the river with his Confederate flag-bearing “rig.”

    • We still have three Obama signs from 2008 nailed to trees on our property. These trees line a state road and the busiest road in the township where I live. No one told us to take down signs.

  10. So now the big issue on Prop 8 is whether or not the court will issue a stay. So those wanting to wed still have to wait for that to be cleared up. And of course, whether or not the full 9th circuit will review it, or it will get picked up by SCOTUS.

    Somehow, I suspect SCOTUS will pick it up. This is the fight the righties have been gearing up for the last 40 years.

  11. Will SCOTUS refuse to hear the Prop. 8 case?

    Jim Burroway thinks so:

    “Judges working other cases are very unlikely to find anything in this ruling which applies to their cases. And when you think about it, that statement can apply to Supreme Court judges as well. Unless they’re just itching for controversy, it would be very easy for them to point out that there are no burning questions of national importance which require their attention. This decision appears tailor-made to allow the Supreme Court to duck this case altogether.”

  12. My sister photoshopped a Romney campaign banner (with the red, white and blue ‘R’) and I tried to use it for my gravatar but it’s too wide to fit.

    Show your sister my gravatar, and have her add similar black bands at the top and bottom. Then you can crop it square with the whole word visible. I did mine with Paint so I’m sure it can be done with Photoshop.

    • If’n Rmoney gets the nomination, I’m hoping today’s graphic shows up as a bumper sticker. The average knucklebutt who would vandalize a vehicle is not going to catch it, he’ll read “Romney”
      The rest of us literate types will see it and know what it means.

  13. On the 101st anniversary of the Gipper’s birthday yesterday, Reagan’s former political director, Haley Barbour, informed the Republican candidates that Reagan was no “purist.” Michael Crowley gives an example:

    “Today, most Republicans insist that Bill Clinton emboldened al-Qaeda by not retaliating more forcefully to terror events like the 2000 USS Cole bombing and the first World Trade Center attack. But when a suicide bomber killed hundreds of U.S. Marines in their Beirut barracks, Reagan yanked America’s military out of Lebanon–and didn’t retaliate (prompting complaints from Republican hawks even then.) He fretted basing a counter-strike on murky intelligence and the possibility for civilian casualties. Imagine how Gingrich would respond if Obama tried an excuse like that.”

  14. And oh, by the way…

    Socialist Francois Hollande has a huge lead over Sarkozy in the latter’s reelection race. What’s that gonna do for the world economy?

  15. Let’s see now. Cat fed. Four quarts of tea made. Tuna salad for sandwiches made. Fresh bread bought and in the house for sandwiches. Lasagna eaten. Clean towels and washcloths in the dryer, running. What’s left? Oh yeah. Watch Jennifer!

  16. I think I’m going to be sick. I know that a lot of Minnesota Republicans are raging fundies. That’s why Batscat Bachmann keeps getting elected. But? I didn’t realize that it was so bad that Sanitarium would crush the Mormon cultist. My guess is that virtually every preacher in the state has been pimping out Sanitarium but the local “librul media” is also controlled by fundies so they won’t speak out against it. I’m going to get drunk and cry myself to sleep.

    • C’mon Pete. That’s not the way to look at it. Scrotorum beating Rmoney is a good thing! A very good thing! Have a tall cool one and watch the returns. People are going to figure out the only way Rmoney wins is by smearing his opponents with overwhelming negative ads.

      • I can’t agree. I don’t like Mittens a little bit but he’s the only half sane GOoPer in the race. A vote for Sanitarium is a vote for a return to the Dark Age. Theocracy, inquisitions, pogroms, witch burnings, slavery, and genocide. That’s what the fundies want and those are the people who have seized control of the GOP in my home state.

  17. The more conservative the state, the higher the teen birth rate. In a new Washington University study published in the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, researchers looked at the birth rates of girls aged 15 to 17 living in 24 states from 1997 to 2005. Arkansas (which was recently ranked as the 10th most conservative state in the nation by Gallup) had the highest teen birth rate (at 34.8 births per 1,000 teen girls). Texas, Mississippi, and Oklahoma (all above-average in conservatism) also rank high. However, New Hampshire, which tends to swing to the left, boasted the lowest rate during this time period (at 9.7).


    • Conservatives think that “free for all” indiscriminate breeding will swell their ranks (I’m talking to you, Pope Whoeveryouhappentobeatthemoment). Unfortunately, for them and all the rest of us, it results in an increased burden of social care. When you fundies and your collection of ill informed narrow minded denigrates wake up and smell the pizza you’ll find you are just a bunch of indigestible corn cobs on the top of the compost pile.

  18. Watching Ed Show online, and there was a segment about Prop 8 with Dan Choi.

    I’m pretty sure Choi has been ‘celebrating’ all day, and his voice was showing it. 😉

  19. Oh did Mitt ‘Cult? What Cult?’ Rmoney get splooged in Santorum tonight?

    I don’t care who you are – that’s funny right there…..

  20. Oooh, Romnoid and Scrotorum neck and neck in Colorado… could be some oil and gas interests on the west slope helping the Mormon along…

    • I just heard part of Frothy’s “victory” speech tonight.

      What a nasty piece of work he is. Blowing the dog whistle with “he thinks he knows better than you,” lying about Obama bailing out the banks, lying about cap and trade, and the morons cheer.

      If Frothy were honest, he would have said, “Thanks for nothing, y’all.”

      • Z, Santorum’s tomorrow’s has been, but how Romney is supposed to win the Presidency after the repeated trouncing he got from his own people beats me.

        • The pundits keep saying it tonight, even while being amazed that when Newt is not an option, the wingnuts won’t vote for Romney.

          Whatever. It will be President Obama, a sane and smart person who people like, versus some Repiggie who’s nuttier than squirrel shit.

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