The Watering Hole: March 30, 2012: Goad Friday

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104 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: March 30, 2012: Goad Friday”

  2. Santorum in Janesville, Wisconsin two days ago. Shuttle down to @34:25 in and listen to Ricky catch himself almost calling the President a nigger:

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    • I see you found a longer clip that you could embed. You beat me to it. As I said below, I’m open-minded, so give me something I can believe he meant to say and I’ll accept that he didn’t almost say what it sure sounds like he almost said.

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    • Whoa…. that’s pretty telling. It’s always the blah… people with this guy..

      Seriously, though, what else could he have been thinking to say?

      And maybe he SHOULD consider using a teleprompter.

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  5. Well, Jane and I are getting ready to head off for Adam’s memorial service. There are some things that have to be done in advance, and I have to bring my mother to the hairdresser’s. The service itself ends at 8 PM and we don’t quite yet know what we’ll be doing afterwards or when we’ll be home tonight.

    Today will be long and it will eventually be over, but I will miss him forever.

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    • “Marsico said it is unclear what sort of charges could be filed if it is determined that someone at the church is criminally culpable. It is not illegal for a person to openly carry a gun, he said, adding carriers only need a license if they conceal the weapon”

      Try Assault. Battery. Kidnapping.

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    • Sick, sicko, sick.

      staged to show the teens the perils faced by Christian missionaries in the world’s trouble spots

      If the fucking Christer “missionaries” would stay home and knock off their meddling, apparently then the only place they’d have to worry about being assaulted would be in the church basement. What a bunch of fucking assholes.

      Pardon my French.

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  11. Steve Benen:

    “In this ad, the Romney campaign tells the viewer, “President Barack Obama named himself one of the country’s four best presidents.” Later, the commercial says Obama is really only the best at amassing debt. Let’s put this plainly: there’s simply nothing honest about this attack ad. … Of course, if this is the sort of ad Mitt Romney is running in March, it’s unnerving to think of how dishonest his campaign messages will be in, say, October.”

    Apparently, Obama has something against adorable infants:

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  12. Healthcare wasn’t in the Constitution, and for good reason:

    “There is no mention of health care, or how to pay for it, in the Constitution, because for the men who wrote it health care wasn’t worth paying very much for. It remained that way until relatively recently. The science of medicine didn’t begin to resemble what we know today until the late nineteenth century. Until about 1900, many American medical schools were no better than the shadier for-profit colleges of today. In “The Great Influenza,” John M. Barry writes that at the time “it was more difficult to get into a respectable American college than into an American medical school…. Many schools bestowed a medical degree upon students who simply attended lectures and passed examinations; in some, students could fail several courses, never touch a single patient, and still get a medical degree.” ‘

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/03/health-care-history.html

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  13. It’s all about vagina mandates and an Ozzie & Harriet world…

    I read a post on a blog I follow about how Cal Thomas and Rick Sanscrotum were bringing us back our “TRUE Anglo Saxon Christianity”. Neither being fearful of the modern Jezebels pushing they way into political power, inferior minorities who have proven they’re irresponsible leaders, or the imminent attack by the Islamic faith upon Christianity.

    I think all that was missing would be a burning cross and white robes….and sadly, it’s exactly what its all coming to.

    For the conservatives compassion starts when a fellow NRA member carrying a concealed 9mm, is forced to “stand his ground” and systematically murder a 160 pound kid carrying a lethal box of Skittles and a bottle of iced tea.

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    • Anglo Saxon Christianity – you mean these guys?

      Speaking as an Anglo Saxon, every November 5th we round up as many Catholics as we can and set fire to them while drinking a nice mulled wine and eating chestnuts, although these days we just do it in effigy. I’m sure I can find a nice sleeveless sweater for my ‘Guy’ this year 😉

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        • My friend’s father is English and dragged her, her little 2 year old daughter and her stepmom out on November 5th last year to a local park where, in the dark they proceeded to set off a bunch of fireworks. I asked if the cops showed up, she said no, but I told her that she’d have definitely made the police blotter if her dad had brought an effigy and proceeded to burn it in the BBQ stand when they showed up…

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  15. Speaking of Right Wing Nutjobs, Bryan Fischer is setting the homophobic, lying, racist POS bar pretty high these days. Here’s a tidbit from rightwingwatch.org.

    Morning Edition had an author/prof on the other morning that has a book out about how conservatives and liberals are equally sincere but view the world completely differently, and should make more of an effort to understand the others’ viewpoint. People like Bryan Fischer, who now define the Right, clarify why this is bunk. I don’t need to make any effort to see his point of view; it’s staked out right there in plain sight. So read the Ten Commandments of Secular Sharia if you’ve got the stomach for it.

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    • 2. “You shall have no gods, period.” The goal of secular fundamentalists is the extermination of any and all mentions of God and Christ in the public arena. The only exceptions to the “no god” rule will be for Gaia and Allah. Gaia is to be worshiped, and any blasphemy against her, by plundering her for such things as the fuel on which the world runs, will be met with the severest punishment and condemnation.

      That one I can go along with, save for the Allah part (a god is a god is a god is … and therefore useless no matter the name).

      Wonder where Fischer gets the idea that we “secular fundamentalists” get off on Islam and Allah? That stuff is just as silly as Christianity. You’d think he’d know that.

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      • Secular fundamentalists suggest tolerance for other beliefs. Since we don’t rant and rave about the evils of Islam we are secret Muslims.

        Interesting that Fischer uses the word “plunder”, because that’s exactly what humans have been doing throughout the last century. Morons like this apparently believe that their god will just keep replenishing the oil in the ground as long as good Christian white people need it.

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    • Reminds me of kids playing –
      you just sit around making up rules/regs as to “who can and can not” climb the ladder to the inner sanctum of the tree house.

      4. “Observe Halloween, Labor Day and Martin Luther King, Jr. Day as holy days. Christmas, Easter, and Thanksgiving, on the other hand, must be wiped off school calendars as if they never existed.”

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      • Hmm, Labor Day (working people and unions) and MLK Day (people of color). Yeah, no agenda here. And when the fuck did Thanksgiving become a Holy Day?

        Not to mention the victim persecution nonsense about how secularists are trying to destroy Christmas and Easter. Hint: take that one up with the free market you worship.

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  16. Oh boy! I’m going to have a “hygiene experience.”

    Okay, let the jokes roll, but this was on a reminder card I got from the dentist. Letting me know that on April ??th, I have a “hygiene experience” at 8:30.

    Never heard it called that before. Struck me as a bit funny.

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  17. Let’s take a look, if you will, at the Second Amendment of the Constitution, which protects every American’s right to shoot another American. It says nothing about giving the person who is shot health insurance to prevent him from dying. This cherished constitutional right to shoot people and make them dead is currently recognized in all fifty states, most recently Florida.

    – Andy Borowitz, the Borowtz Report

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  18. What about overpopulation? Not to worry, says the reality show mom, Michelle Duggar. Despite the world supporting a record 7 billion people, the whole “mindset” of overpopulation is “not true; it’s a lie,” Duggar tells the Christian Broadcasting Network. “The idea of overpopulation is not accurate because, really, the entire population of the world, if they were stood shoulder to shoulder, could fit in the city limits of Jacksonville,” says Duggar. “So if you realize that aspect of it, we realize we’re not anywhere near being overpopulated.”

    {{facepalm}}

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    • Waaaaay back when I took a psychology course we read about a animal study that probably wouldn’t be allowed today. Simply put; they overcrowded various animals. Dogs, cat, rats, monkeys and such. They locked a bunch of them, each with their own kind, in a cage and watched what happened. Mind you; they were given plenty of food and water, their cages were kept clean, their only hardship was being packed too many to a cage. Well? Before too long the animals went insane. Some became murderers and/or cannibals. Some of them displayed less severe erratic behavior like atypical aggression short of murder and/or cannibalism, and some of them went into a corner and starved themselves to death.

      This extrapolates to human behavior as well. There is a definite correlation between overcrowding and aberrant behavior even when other factors, like poverty and hunger, aren’t at play. Of course, this profoundly stupid woman doesn’t realize that overcrowding has nothing to do with the depletion of resources and pollution of the environment but, even on this one point, her frightful stupidity forces her to make an incredibly stupid statement.

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  20. Just received the phone call confirming I’m now covered under the county health plan – making my portion of the nearly $25,000.00 for 2.5 days stay in hospital —
    $200.00! Now I can make appointments for follow-up visits; specialist visits; pharmacy and any other testing needed. (each will have a low co-pay).
    At the moment life is good!

    (and eff you Mittens; Marshmallow man; sleeveless sweater sanctimonious piece of garbage for denying health care coverage to all the U.S.)

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    • Ahh, sucking from the government teat, eh Ebb? We’d prefer if you just took up donations from friends and relatives to cover that $25K, maybe have a bake sale or two also.

      Did you try to barter the hospital by offering up some chicken? That’s a fave option recommended by the GOP.

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    • That’s great news Ebb.

      This is so why we need to truly fix our health care system. No one should ever have to go through this sort of anxiety, and having the make the decision of getting the needed follow-on care.

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  21. Have I recently mentioned how much I hate Reich-wing freaks? It’s bad enough when we can predict the votes of Justices based on their stated political ideology but it damned-near pushes me over the edge when they simultaneously express their ignorance of the matter at hand and proudly assert that they have no intention of educating themselves. Personally, I think that the moment Scalia announced he has no intention of even reading the law that is being debated his office should have been padlocked and the search for a new Justice should have been launched that day. It forces me to conclude that he refuses to read anything, including the U.S. Constitution, that might contradict his preconceptions. But, the part that pisses me off the most, is that the only recourse left to us common folk is to fervently wish that he’s struck by lightning, walks in front of a bus, or suffers a fatal heart attack. I hate thinking things like that but we are left with nothing else.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/supreme-court-justices-struggle-with-health-policy-and-key-facts-about-obamacare.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

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    • To the Viewers of Current:

      We created Current to give voice to those Americans who refuse to rely on corporate-controlled media and are seeking an authentic progressive outlet. We are more committed to those goals today than ever before.

      Current was also founded on the values of respect, openness, collegiality, and loyalty to our viewers. Unfortunately these values are no longer reflected in our relationship with Keith Olbermann and we have ended it.

      – – Wow, that’s pretty damn harsh. KO is pretty much an island and an asshole to work with, from many accounts.

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      • So in reading the article, I never knew Joel Hyatt was the other founder of Current. I knew Gore was involved. I remember Joel Hyatt and his TV commercials for Hyatt Legal Services from way back.

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  25. Deadbeat Joe Walsh on Tammy Duckworth’s military service:

    “I have so much respect for what she did in the fact that she sacrificed her body for this country,” said Walsh, simultaneously lowering his voice as he leaned forward before pausing for dramatic effect. “Ehhh. Now let’s move on.”

    “What else has she done? Female, wounded veteran … ehhh,” he continued. “She is nothing more than a handpicked Washington bureaucrat. David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel just picked her up and dropped her into this district.”

    Maybe in their debates before election day, he’ll offer her a couple band-aids with purple hearts on them?

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  26. I don’t think there are many knowledgeable people who haven’t realized that Mr. Olbermann has a large capacity for being a dick. But, before we relegate him to the scrap heap, we must consider that he has a chronic condition that causes chronic pain, suffered a brain injury, and lost both parents in the last couple years. Any one of those three can cause bad moods, contentious relationships at home and at work, and erratic behavior. Those things can really multiply the effects of an abrasive personality. I sincerely hope that he can just recover and be happy. Then, perhaps, he can find a niche where he fits best; as a conscience within the media/political world.

    BTW. I share his opinion of the technical aspects at Current. I’m more a fan of Cenk than I ever was of Keith and I can barely tolerate The Young Turks because of the echos from those damned cinder block walls. If I thought that they couldn’t afford it themselves I would gladly pay for the foam “egg crate” to improve the acoustics on the set.

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    • Keith Olbermann’s full statement in response to the termination of his contract by Current TV:

      I’d like to apologize to my viewers and my staff for the failure of Current TV. Editorially, Countdown had never been better. But for more than a year I have been imploring Al Gore and Joel Hyatt to resolve our issues internally, while I’ve been not publicizing my complaints, and keeping the show alive for the sake of its loyal viewers and even more loyal staff. Nevertheless, Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt, instead of abiding by their promises and obligations and investing in a quality news program, finally thought it was more economical to try to get out of my contract. It goes almost without saying that the claims against me implied in Current’s statement are untrue and will be proved so in the legal actions I will be filing against them presently. To understand Mr. Hyatt’s “values of respect, openness, collegiality and loyalty,” I encourage you to read of a previous occasion Mr. Hyatt found himself in court for having unjustly fired an employee. That employee’s name was Clarence B. Cain. In due course, the truth of the ethics of Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt will come out. For now, it is important only to again acknowledge that joining them was a sincere and well-intentioned gesture on my part, but in retrospect a foolish one. That lack of judgment is mine and mine alone, and I apologize again for it.

      This came from a comment at Raw Story, so I don’t have a link.

      I am of the opinion that Gore and Hyatt gambled that Current’s ratings would increase enough that they could get more cable outlets to include the channel, which would then increase the ratings further, allowing for advertising revenues which would pay for Keith’s contract. They didn’t factor in that cable companies have no interest in helping their policy opponents in D.C.
      I’m surprised that Comcast put them on their line up, even when all they ran were obscure documentaries and ‘jackass’ style reality shows. Keith got them into the game, just as he did MSNBC. We wouldn’t have Rachel Maddow without Keith getting her the chance.

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        • I got it.

          Based on my limited knowledge of the internal affairs at Current I would still say the animosity is mutual and much of it is justified; from both parties. I also think that Rachel and Cenk are far closer to genuine journalists than Keith could ever hope to be. It’s just not part of his make up.

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    • He’s a piece of work..
      there have no violent acts, reported.
      The demonstrations, around here, have been peaceful, respectful and hooded. Even the church gatherings request attendees to wear hoodies in memory of Treyvon.

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