President Obama and Mitt Romney will meet this evening at Hofstra University in New York for their second “debate.” It will start at 9 p.m. ET, and will be a townhall style format, with CNN’s Candy Crowley moderating. The questions will come from so-called undecided voters in attendance. i don’t get the whole “undecided voter” thing, but there it is.
C-Span will have live coverage of the debate here.
Thinkprogress has five facts for us to remember:
1. The deficit is largely a product of tax cuts and wars. The newest report out from the Congressional Budget Office shows that we have a still-large but slowing budget shortfall, with the deficit at $1.1 trillion for 2012. But the issues that are adding the most to our deficit aren’t health care costs or the stimulus; wars and tax cuts are responsible for that.
Zooey: And remember, it’s a filthy lie that Obama has increased the deficit in any way — he’s actually lowered it.
2. When US officials asked for more security in Libya, they wanted it in Tripoli, not Benghazi.The attack on the United States embassy in Libya was a tragedy that has had a confusing aftermath. Republicans have claimed that employees at the Benghazi embassy asked for more security in the days before the attack, but actually it was the embassy in Tripoli, not Benghazi where the attack occurred, that sought longer hours for its security guards.
Zooey: Also, remember that the House refused to pay for increased security in our foreign embassies.
3. 72 million people would be uninsured under Romney’s health plan. A recent study of Romney’s health care plan shows that it would increase health care premiums for most Americans, and would leave 72 million people uninsured. If the Affordable Care Act were repealed, 60 million Americans would remain uninsured. Under Obama’s plan, that number is expected to drop to 27.1 million.
Zooey: Remember, Romney’s plan will cover those with pre-existing conditions, BUT only for people who already have health insurance, which makes no fucking sense.
4. If the DREAM Act were passed, it would add $329 billion to the economy by 2030.President Obama has vowed the pass the DREAM Act — a bill that provides a pathway to citizenship for young, undocumented students and service members — while candidate Romney has said he’d veto it. According to a joint report by the Center for American Progress and the Partnership for a New American Economy, passing the DREAM Act “would add $329 billion to the U.S. economy and create 1.4 million new jobs by 2030.”
5. The “six studies” that Romney cites in defense of his tax plan are actually 3 blog posts, 2 right-wing reports and 1 op-ed. The idea that a Romney administration could give a 20 percent tax cut to everyone, and then pay for it by eliminating loopholes and deductions for the wealthy has been strong refuted by the Tax Policy Center. Romney has cited six other “studies” that confirm his plan could work, but those are dubious: One is a report by the conservative Heritage foundation, one is a paper from a former Bush adviser, one is an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, and three are blog posts.
Zooey: If you like this “study” I’ve posted for the evening, please click “like” and share it to your favorite social network. Everyone knows that gives a “study” like mine more credibility. 😀
Have fun with the live-blogging, all y’all! There are no rules, but alcohol and a sense of humor really help. Just sayin’…
President Clinton Explains Mitt Romney’s $5 Trillion Tax Cut. Why can’t Obama?
Okay, the negativity is out of the way!
4.6 earthquake rattles New England.
Fracking? The Angel Moroni giving Mitt a warning?
Perhaps the angel is about to regurgitate those missing golden plates.
Zooey, I think you know a little more about Mormons than is healthy.
You too Outstanding. Why are we forced to learn about Mormon bullshit. Because it’s a cult that’s why.
Thank goodness Tweety is finished with his hyper yammering — for now anyway.
I think there should be several chairs on stage, for all the various Mitts in the room.
Time to crack that bottle of wine.
Would you crickets like some wine? Yes? Here’s a couple tiny wine glasses. Y’all share now.
I’m going to need a bigger glass.
I’m glad you can’t see mine; I’d be embarrassed. 😀
Okay, I’m
stokedstoned and tired of the “experts” and all their bullshit.Where is everyone? If no one shows up I may have to sit closer to you!
I couldn’t agree more pachy. Especially that know it all Chuck Todd. He makes my ass ache.
You better!
Sorry I’m late! I’ll be sitting with pachy tonight. 🙂
Chuck Todd thinks this debate will determine who wins. He is such a moron.
He’s pretty consistent.
Obama goes by the rules of the first debate, and Chuck Todd whines that Obama didn’t bring up certain shit.
Chuck Todd is a penisless dick.
And a dickless penis.
Just listening to Mitt is enough to make me drink, he doesn’t need to say any special words.
That smirk!! That “adoring” look!
Must drink now!
I say if Obama just flat out calls Romney a “liar,” or even if he responds to something Romney says by calling it a “lie,” you have to drink an entire bottle of Jack Daniels in one shot, like Belushi in Animal House.
Sorry I am late ~ answering a bunch of “did you feel the quake?” messages …
and hello Zooey and crickets 🙂
Well lass, did you feel the quake?
Hi Shayne ~ I was napping at the USGS designated time of 7:12pm … about 10 minutes later I awoke to a loud “random” crash outside – dog seemed unphased … maybe related ?
Did something fall? The one earthquake we had here was in the middle of the night and the house just went thunk. My husband didn’t believe I’d heard or felt anything.
The last earthquake I felt was over ten years ago. The earthquake was in the Seattle area and I was in Moscow, but it felt like a huge wave just came all the way across the state. Made us feel queasy.
I felt some small ones in Los Angeles but never a wave like that.
That was the only wave type earthquake I’ve ever felt. Usually they’re the jolt types that break windows and cause bricks to fall on people’s heads.
Usually when we were in LA the only way I knew was people would be sweeping crap off the sidewalks.
You don’t usually feel earthquakes if you’re driving, and you probably did a lot of driving in LA.
Yes I did. Especially because I was always lost in LA. Until I got a GPS the last year we went. One time I had to call a friend back in Chicago to find my way back to the hotel.
The Marin County quake was the rolling wave. A 2.2 near where I was staying; I thoight I was feeling a delayed hangover from the Sonoma/Napa outings the day before. Queesy indeed, Zooey!
Shayne, the dog was being a total tweeker before my nap. I just thought she was acting up because I had been away for the weekend … She KNEW! And it is the same stamping/whining she does pre-hurricane … then when the first raindrop falls, she relaxes. Maybe the “crash” made her “chill”? 🙂
Hi Jane! That rolling one was just as you described … And all I could think to do was to surf it (sans board, of course). Still would have rather felt the water and seen the shoreline 🙂
Checked outside where the “crash” sound came from … didn’t see anything (it was dusk).
The other quakes I felt (Marin County 1999 and last year’s ” I don’t remember where the epicemter was” were the rolling and shaking sensations. All a little unsettling.
I thought dogs were supposed to be an early warning system.
Hi, Lass!
I’ve been in both types of earthquakes, albeit small ones. The ‘jolt’ type in San Diego, building shaking, things falling off of shelves, etc. The ‘wave’ one was weird, it felt more like an underground train heading straight toward the house. I felt it coming from the north, it rumbled underneath the house then continued south and ‘disappeared.’
The little quake Va had a year+ ago made my house dance. I didn’t know a structure could be so noisy.
Thank You, Outstanding! That “little” quake was the quake I felt last year. Dancing houses … WOW!
And hi to all non- crickets! 🙂
I have a small business and I don’t need any help from Romney. If we cleared $250K a year in profits I’d be thrilled to pay taxes.
Amen to that. I need customers, not tax cuts.
We need customers with enough money to pay for the repairs they need. People who desperately need 4 tires only buy 2 because they went flat.
My Congressman Judy Bigger was on a debate Sunday. The district was redrawn and I think the guy she’s running against was already a Rep too. Anyway Biggert is barely functioning She appears to have some sort of dementia. Watch the idiot Republicans around here vote her in again.
What do you mean by “barely functioning?”
She made Sarah Palin sound articulate. Might have been drunk or has alcohol induced dementia. She just seemed like a drinker to me.
I don’t even know how to comment anymore. And I accuse somebody else of having dementia. The nerve of me.
Sounds like the perfect repiggie.
Some guy on Thom Hartmann today (I think) said the way Romney stared at Obama and smiled is a symptom of a psychiatric disorder. Can’t remember which one.
He stares at everyone that way. I’m not coming up with the disorder though. Damn wine! That’s my excuse anyway.
The guy on Thom was Thom, and he said it. 😉
Well I wasn’t even sure it was Thom’s show so I certainly wasn’t going to remember who said it. Didn’t he say people like that are dangerous.
Yep, in no uncertain terms.
Hey now. Don’t try and confuse me even more.
They’re the kind of people who are socially awkward with people they aren’t familiar with, and they slap an adoring look on their faces because they’ve learned that putting on a “don’t give a flying fuck” look on their face doesn’t work as well. Damn, I wish I could remember what it is!
It’s okay you don’t remember. Probably has to do with your Idaho education. 😉
I haven’t mailed the soap yet, mister.
that’s why my dog keeps sniffing around me.
Taylor thinks he has mild autism. There’s always a lot of autistic kids in the music program. Now in her music ed piano class there’s a one armed trombone player. The piano teacher in the lab can hear them on earphones and forgets and keeps asking him why he’s only playing with his one hand.
I won’t give Mitt that excuse. People with autism aren’t usually pathological.
Hi gang! Whew, I’m now in a non-cricket state of mind., and it’s all good.
How many people are in the audience for this debate? I just saw a sweep of about 20 to 25 people.
Those are the dumbnuts left in this country who are undecided.
and were picked by the Gallup org. How they picked would be an interesting story.
There are 80 people in the audience. Guess the sweep wasn’t a full sweep.
I skipped much of the pre-game by taking a shower (it takes forever to wash my hair), but occasionally I could still hear Tweety from the living room. HAH!
taking a shower before the game; now that’s a positive attitude. 🙂
Really Jane nwoldguy is right. You’ll probably feel grungy after watching Mitt for 90 minutes.
I wanted to at least start off clean. Besides, if I waited ’til after the debate, I’d be up too late.
My hubby went to a seminar so I didn’t have to spend pre-game washing dishes.
Steve Schmidt succinctly and accurately described what each candidate needs to do tonight. Speaking to people who haven’t decided after all this time between two vastly different men, you MUST avoid the wonkiness and numbers and go for the gut, and be simple with your answers.
Steve Schmidt who gave us Sarah Palin?
Did you read ‘Game Change’? Did you even see “Game Change”?
Yes I saw it but I didn’t read it. I can’t really forgive him though. What if McCain had won?
He didn’t, and Palin’s finished.
Thank goodness. She’s making an exercise video. Chelsea Handler says she’s looking like she has anorexia or is a meth addict.
Agree
It seems to me that if people are still undecided, and there is so little enthusiasm among the electorate, those people will probably just stay home.
I’ve got to go watch this thing with my family. I hope it doesn’t make me want to curse.
as soon as Mittens opens his mouth you’re doooomed!
Rachel is going over all the rules Mitt is going to break tonight.
I think that qualifies as a porn-stache.
🙂
What did she do to her face?
Are you thinking of Monica Crowley from Fox News?
No! This woman moderating! 😆
And they’re off!
The kid was asking the question to Obama, even though Mitt goes first. Funny.
Nassau County is the 12th wealthiest county in the nation.
“Strangers With Candy” Debate
Why don’t you waste more time Mitt? And his anecdotal bullshit gets on my nerves.
WTF is he talking about? He’s not answering the question at all.
Mitt supports the Ryan budget, which cuts off Pell grants.
Exactly.
The lying liar is just plain lying…
Mitt platitudes, no answers.
You know what it takes Mitt? Why don’t you tell the rest of us the big secret.
Heh, Obama’s getting in the shots. Keep it up.
Is Obama working too hard at sounding ENTHUSIASTIC!!?
A bit.
Energy? What?
Mitt not answering the follow up. *snore*
Dangerous ground, Mitt! You wanted GM bankrupt!
And President Obama goes on the attack – YES!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama on fire!!!!!!!!
Zing…Go Pres…Go!
Love it!
Candy not letting Mitt control the debate. Well done.
Yeah, she shut him down as she should have. I’m sure the RWNJ’s will be whining about that.
Tell me why they couldn’t use lapel mics on these guys instead of them having walk around holding the phallic symbol.
It’s ok badmoodman, it’s make Romney more uncomfortable!
That’s funny dycker.
Fewer fist fights?
It’s important that Obama answer the gas price question. Come on!
“All of the above plan”
*snort*
Wah, federal land! What about all the other fucking land, Mitt. Fail.
Mitt doesn’t like that the Executive enforces the laws?
Why does he want to be presidunce again?
Wouldn’t it be terrible to visit a national park and see gas drilling operations? Romney will not get us energy independent.
That would be horrifying. That’s why we have national parks.
It’s already happening in the Allegheny National Forest, Cats 😦
Did you see Romney jump up and wanted another chance to speak? What a fucktard.
WTF is Willard talking about?? These people don’t know either but it sounds ominus.
Word salad Mitt.
I think I saw eyes glazing over.
Tell the people how gas prices are set, Obama. People don’t know this.
He gets in another “just not true!”
Over $4./gallon … that’s inexpensive. We’re nearing and some have surpassed $5./gallon here in California!
I don’t complain about the price of gas…only pointing out.
Mitt’s got that horrible smile on his face again. Creepy.
Glad I’m no watching. Only listening. And that’s bad enough as hios
“Not true Gov. Romney”
Fuck OFF Mittens.
Obama is calling Romney on his lies. OMG Romney shut down an coal plant in MA.
FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
Interrupting! Awesome!!!
Good answer, Obama!!!
Use it or lose it!
Romney is asking when did Obama stop beating his wife? About oil leases.
Hellooooooooo, Candy????
“I’ll give you your time, go ahead.”
Heh, Obama is taking control.
Romney is starting to lose it.
FUCK YOU Romney!
Will the RWNJs call him out for the rudeness and disrespect to the President?
So if gas is $8 a gallon under a Romney presidency, who will be to blame?
The president doesn’t control gas prices.
I think everyone forgot the townhall thingy.
Mitt trying to take control, Candy not letting him.
Romney is a spoiled child…
STOP HIM CANDY
She’s doing better than Lehrer already.
Mitt’s coming across as a major asshole.
Romney is getting pushy and is becoming annoying.
Mitt looks a bit wild.
Not answering the question again, Mitt. She’s concerned about the deductions.
Once again, Romney is avoiding answering the deductions. He has a “fill in the bucket” plan.
It’s difficult to type and listen at the same time.
Most people don’t have investments, Mitt.
Obama: “SHOW US YOUR MATH”
Geeze, say it!!
Talking about his record; keep doing that, Obama.
Mitt had an evil look in his eye when he finished answering that question.
My sister is busily deleting my comments on her FB posts. I guess I’ve alienated my last sister.
I’m not thinking it’s a great loss right now.
Mitt never said the wealthy would pay a dime more in taxes, they are already too well off with the status quo.
Small businesses like Koch and Bain?
Romney wants to reduce rates and eliminate deductions. Think about it. The middle class get screwed by this. Businesses always have deductions. I know. I had a business.
I like Obama’s smile right there.
‘The top 5% will continue to pay 60%, as they do today.’ WTF?
Explain the math right now, Obama.
Obama missed an opportunity to say to the last questioner: did you notice he didn’t answer your question?
It’s magic!!!!
Just like his underwear.
Well done, Mr Prez.
Romney’s tanking. 🙂
You didn’t run buisnesses, you chopped them up!!
Mitt’s magic underwear is bunching up on him…..
Romney is stumbling. He has nothing tonight but his talking points.
It’s the new math, eh Mitt?
Lilly Ledbetter!!!
If Crowley was a football ref, she would be throwing the flag at Romney at the end of every one of his turns. He won’t stop when his time is up!
I need more wine. Y’all stay glues to the teevee machines. 🙂
Obama has an annoying habit of circling around the KEY point to an answer and prefacing it with a word salad.
Obama should have contrasted the Repub vote on Lily Ledbetter. All the male Repubs voted against, and all the women voted for it.
What a lame fucking response to women’s pay, from Willard.
Did you notice the look on the women’s faces in front of Romney? They looked unimpressed with him.
I am sick of hearing Romney say “I know what it takes.” Is that all he has?
He knows what it takes, but won’t share it with the rest of us.
My sister just told me to stop commenting on her wall. Family stuff and a debate — fun times!
Obama is talking about women’s health. That’s good.
Reminded people that he’s the president. Yes. 🙂
My god, this woman questioner is stupid.
How can she be undecided!?
ooooooh zing on the ‘undecided’ voter equating Rmoney to Baby-bush!….
Oh boy….
Romney is really fumbling.
Trade? Wut?
Romney’s five point plan IS Bush’s (and McCain’s)
Here comes the balanced budget bullshit. The one that Romney has NO plan on how to do.
I came though small business. That’s how I make $20M a year by not having a job.
SMALL BUSINESS UP YOUR damn behind, mittens.
This is hard to watch someone who lies as easily as he breathes. My god, it’s just stunning.
Romney’s small business was started with his father’s money.
Tell us how Mitt’s foreign policy people are all Bushies.
If the President doesn’t bring up the neocons in Mitt’s inner circle tonight, he can do it in the next debate.
Next debate is all foreign policy.
I lost my feed. Damn. Just as Obama was getting ready to answer the question.
OUTSOURCING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s pretty obvious that Obama detests this guy.
I’m glad we’re seeing this tonight.
Romney needs to repeat the claim that Obama hasn’t signed any new trade deals.
Time to get into the obstruction in congress, Mr Prez.
Oh yeahhhh…
Obamacare is Romneycare.
BOOM.
Mitt wants to cry right now.
My feed is back. Romney is trying to sound and look like he feels this man’s pain.
Obama flunks his opportunity. It’s easy: Bush wanted tax cuts as the magic bullet; so does Romney; Bush wanted to invade Iraq; Romney wants to attack Iran. And yet Obama does not bash Bush
Romney is back lying again.
Dodd-Frank. These people say, who???
Oh holy fuck. Romney is talking about St. Ronnie. The younger generation doesn’t give a shit about Reagan.
Obama did cut the deficit, asshole!
Reagan recession vs Bush recession is 5-6 million manufacturing jobs different. Apples and oranges.
Romney – who said that Bush was in a different era and couldn’t be compared with him today – and then uses Reagan’s recovery crap.
Self deport!!
Teleport?
Romney is a smarmy asshat.
Education the people HERE!
The first fuck you occurred at 9:20. Obama is bringing it. Romney is flailing. Romney actually said 0% tax on interest, dividends, and capital gains. How helpful is that to the middle class?
Doesn’t everyone have investments and live on earned income?
All the hedge fund managers do. Romney wants their tax to be zero, I guess.
Hah, I had a tax rate on my investment income of zero.
Me too!
We have so much in common, pachy. 😉
Obama is just too nice. He should SLAM Romney on this.
No, he’s doing just fine.
https://twitter.com/chrisrockoz/status/258385839225196544
I hate when Mitt says his grandparents were American, They left the Utah Territory so grandpa Romney could keep his several wives. Once the polygamous men left Utah became a state!
They weren’t Americans if they left. IMHO.
They were never Americans. They self deported from Utah Territory to Mexico.
Excellent point. No wonder Mitt doesn’t talk about his fucked up family tree.
Romney will not answer the questions.
Chris Kobach works for you Mitt!!
Geeze, Obama
He finally got to it.
Romney whining is not good.
Mitt’s lost without his cheat sheet. He’s fumbling again.
https://twitter.com/chrisrockoz/status/258380240936632321
Funny.
Damn, Candy —– tell Romney to sit down and STFU
Don’t round ’em up, just make ’em really miserable so they’ll leave.
SLAP HIM
“Sit down, Gov Romney.”
Owie!
Christ, someone HAD to give this guy that Libya question
Finally, Benghazi.
And my feed is cutting out. God dammit.
President answered well. Mitt sympathizes and goes meandering off…
A republic plant that is ill informed about Libya.
Yes, that question was certainly contrived. Security was never requested for Benghazi, as it wasn’t an embassy, it was a consulate for visas mainly.
Answered by a plant-like republican with nothing to say.
So do I need to recommence drinking heavily?
Mildly, TtT.
woo hoo – surf’s up!
S’up to you. I’m enjoying Romney stumbling and blustering.
I zoned out – did the President mention that $300million in funding for the State Department was cut by Republicans?
No and he needed to …
Mitt’s almost hyperventilating.
FUCK YOU MITT!!!!!!!!!!!
Caught the fool…
Keep politicizing this Mitt. Keep it up.
Candy Crowley is speaking truth to Romney. Yea! My god, the audience is clapping. Romney is now making an ass of himself.
shit, what did I miss? Trying to find a good feed.
Gotcha Mitt! He said it the next day!
I heard Obama say it the next day, too.
As did I. I don’t know where Mitt & Co. get their information. I think he listens to RW talk and treats it as gospel.
He loves Drudge.
Romney’s bulldozing through these questions, talking over Obama and Crowley, and makes him look like a bully. And Romney heckled Obama. Whadda DICK.
Yeah, that looked bad and disrespectful.
And he’ll never be called on it.
Automatic weapons are not illegal, they just require special permits. Mitt’s wrong again.
Mitt is stumbling in his speech. He is out of his comfort zone. He will fall flat on his face in the next debate.
But if people get married, they won’t want to use them.
Fast & Furious???? OH.MY.GOD.
Crowley is challenging Romney.
We interrupt this live blog of the presidential debates to bring you a moment of cuteness. C’mon, you know you need it.
It’s almost over.
Have I missed anything?
🙂
Were you already aware that Mitt is a lying fuckhead?
Oh yeah, and maybe Mittens is finally getting the idea that he’s a loser.
Obama is winning. Romney is showing the nation that he is an asshole.
Bipartisan my ass! 800+ vetoes, 700+ overrides!
In the transcript of the Rose Garden press conference, we have the following sentence:
“No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”
He did not even mention the inflammatory video. Romney was wrong. Crowley was right to call him on it.
Go Prez!!
Well, Obama needs to slam Mitt on the outsourcing on this question.
Here comes the 5 point plan. Romney has a lot of balls to criticize sending jobs to China when Romney has been sending jobs overseas for years.
Mitt – you sent those jobs to China…
And mention your Cayman Islands money and Swiss accounts, Mitt.
If the time limit is 1:30, it’s going to end with Obama’s response!
Good God! Another day one promise from Romney.
He’s got a very heavy schedule on Day One, he’ll be exhausted.
Heating pad for writer’s cramp. Not that he’ll need it.
Canada spends way less on their military, so their taxes can be lower.
Here comes ORomneycare. Oh fuck, here it goes again, “I know what it takes.”
Mitt’s cadence is that of StRonnie’s and very irritating.
Rolling pin alert!
I know what it takes, I know what it takes, I know what it takes. He’s a fucking broken record. He knows what it takes but he doesn’t feel the need to share it with the voters.
I think this is what Romney says when he doesn’t have anything of substance to say. It’s his cover statement.
He sounds like McCain on Bin Laden did. I know how to get him…
Exactly house. It’s all just too top secret to tell us.
Exactly! Tell us what it takes Mitt. It isn’t tax cuts.
When Romney stuck with outsourcing to China and investing off shore he tells Obama that does he know where the money in his pension comes from? WTF. Why should he?
I loved Obama’s retort. “My pension isn’t as big as yours.”
How could he not mention how Bain sent jobs to China??
He doesn’t need to, I guess.
She asked the President, didn’t she?
Why is she allowing Mitt to butt in?
Is that a giant Chiclet brooch on her shoulder?
Shhh. It’s actually a satellite dish. She’s transmitting a message directly to PBO. 😉
Either that or a direct feed from Curiosity on Mars.
Security updates…
“Government doesn’t create jobs.” You’re a dickwad, Mitt, an overgrown frat boy just like Dubya.
Government does not create jobs, but cutting military spending loses jobs!
What a WASTE of a question. Geeze.
Isn’t being a Governor being in government, Mitt?
Not if your legislature can run all over you the way Mitt’s did. He could have stayed in Utah.
“Government does not create jobs.” Government creates the presidents job you stupid fuck. Mitt is accusing President Obama of fighting dirty. Obama didn’t release the tap of you talking about the 47% you big dick.
Yes Mitt, we’re all children of YOUR God.
Only after we’re dead.
Ewww..missionary, pastor, olympics, governor.
What now, his resume?
What a turd.
Hasn’t he had a real job?
Only as a boss. He hasn’t ever really known downward pressure.
You want to tell us more about your church Willard. Feel free. We don’t have to settle but you won’t tell us how you’re going to make changes.
Romney is describing himself. Mr. “born with a silverspoon in his mouth” is trying to show that he understands. I notice that everything is superficial with him. He is a shell of a person.
He’s a shell of something but I’m not sure it’s a person.
The shed skin of a snake, Shayne.
Well if Willard wins because they believe this crap we are all going to be suffering a terminal case of buyers remorse.
Yay, the 47%!
Own it, Barry!
Clear win for the President.
Yes – ending on 47%!
WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Two out of three will do! We got this one!
MICHELLE and Ann wearing the same color dresses.
Yeah, Ann looks pissed about it. 😉
Indeed. She hates it when the help steals her clothes.
Ohhhh, ouch! 😆
Does Ann have a matching crop?
One of them looks like a lumpy potato.
I’ll wager it isn’t the First Lady!
What color dress? (I was only listening via radio).
Sort of a vibrant pink color. Looks better on Michelle.
Fuscia.
Kind of a hot pink. Unkind to lumpy white ladies. (Yeah, I can’t wear it either)
Which is why it looks so nice on Michelle!
Skin tone matters on being able to wear certain colors.
The FLOTUS is a classy person and knows how to dress.
Kinda horsey looking?
Debate three will be moderated by Bob Schieffer. Hello Jim Lehrer #2!
No kidding! Just as useless.
Two win for female moderators and one loss for a male moderator. Romney going to fall on his face in the next debate because he doesn’t know anything about foreign policy.
Don’t mess with the chicks!
https://twitter.com/KimJongNumberUn/status/258397396453711872
It’s a link to a great Borowitz Report on Romney’s debate performance.
Game, set and match to Obama. He got it; he fought back; he gave us all …hope.
Yes, indeed he did!
Now will you stop being in such a bad mood!? 😆
I’ll get back to you on that on November 7.
I thought that would be your answer. 😆
The President kicked Romney’s ass. Best moment was him telling Romney he found Romney’s denigrating of his diplomats offensive.
shit, I missed that. Damn feed.
I missed that, too. However, I did get to see a repeat of this as Rachel replayed it.
Borowitz
The only thing Mitt feels is a void.
Emptiness.
Illusion.
He can’t even describe it.
Axelrod said Obama heard Chris Matthews’ critique of the first debate. He didn’t have to hear it on TV, he could hear it without the TV! 😀
We all heard it!
That was pretty funny.
Willard believes Fox News when they said Obama didn’t say it was an act of terror for 14 days. That’s what was wrong with Bush/Cheney. They watched Fox and only believed their own propaganda.
Mittens obviously thought the talking points that play with his base would pass muster nationally.
Striking wsn’t it that the man who’s in his early fifties has more gray hair than the dude in his sixties.
Willard has had the same two-tone look since the last Ambassador station wagon rolled off the assembly line.
Love ’em or hate ’em, the job ages every president visibly.
Romney said that Obama quadrupled regulations on small businesses. Here’s what Bloomberg has found:
Obama’s White House has approved fewer regulations than his predecessor George W. Bush at this same point in their tenures, and the estimated costs of those rules haven’t reached the annual peak set in fiscal 1992 under Bush’s father, according to government data reviewed by Bloomberg News. The average annual cost to businesses under Obama is higher than under his predecessors, the Bloomberg review shows. The increase is estimated to total as little as $100 million or as much as $4.1 billion, or at most three one-hundredths of a percent of the total economy.
Quadrupled?
Romney lies about deficits under Bush. Bush never included Emergency war spending, the Medicare Doc fix, or the Alternative Minimum Tax fix in any of his budgets, and Obama has from day one.
I can’t count the number of people I have told these same facts to over the past 4 years. It’s fun watching their eyes glaze over.
Women in Binders. An internet meme is born:
Wow, women in binders.
Not misogyny. All people exist only on paper in Mitten’s world.
I live in a binder – college ruled paper!
The only binders I know of are the ones I get from the car insurance company…
Is that what Mittens is talking about?
He clearly meant shackles.
Andrew Sullivan is in love.
https://twitter.com/RomneysBinder/status/258390048339279873
Pataki: Gas prices! Wah!!!!!
I don’t know how they work!!!!!
I had to turn that prick off.
Pataki is a world class dick.
Pataki’s another R with a weird first name that he doesn’t use: Elmer!
He was our governor for too damn long…
As an anecdotal observation; my conservative friends on Facebook are strangely quiet now.
How can we go nana nanana if they don’t show up.
OMG, my middle sister actually un-friended me.
Well, that’s it then.
Critters and Zoosters, you are my family now!
Thank god my sister and brother are like-minded as me on politics.
Didn’t she un-friend you last week as well?
No, she was just pissed at me last week. 🙂
Wow that’s really ignorant. Are you surprised? Sorry to hear if you’re upset.
I’d say you’re like a sister to me, but then it gets creepy from there. 😉
😀
Really? How so? 😉
I’m guessing it’s something incestual.
As per usual. 😉
If you want a liberal sister you can have mine! Warning, she likes to talk and talk and talk.
That’s okay, mine never talk to me.
She may unfriend you, she can’t unsister you. In any event, I could use a sister and/or a friend.
We can be sisters, Outstanding.
She un-friended me, but says it’s not really a high priority for her and not to respond right now.
Yeah, I think I need new sisters.
Well, we always have been your family, Zooey, I guess now it’s just official.
Yep. Sista!
Oh then I am owed some back pocket money Aunty Zoo !
When you have to go to the “D” list politician, like that Prick-Pataki, you’ve lost.
Tumblr of the Night:
http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/
Damn, I was hoping for women in binders, blindfolded and naked….
Unfortunately the only fun I have with women now is all in my mind.
That’s cuz you live in fucking Florida!
That’s one hijacked mouse-delivering truck headed northwest…
Heh, as long as he loses the mice between there and here. 😉
Zooey, you realize the dragonfly is on his way the moment reading that invitation?
Yeah, but the mice may escape. 😉
I haven’t gone on a delivery with Peckerhead Pete for a couple weeks now. My legs were beginning to cramp because Peckerhead is short and while he drives he moves the seat in his little truck all the way forward.
Ebb, have you any information about any harmful effect a cat might suffer moving from a sunny clime like Florida to a colder locale, like say Idaho or Washington? 😉
Dude, we have heat here. 😯
Right, and how many inches of that wonderful white sunshine does the area bask in annually ?
Pretty much. 😛
I think Obama intentionally let the lie that he didn’t call the attack on the embassy terrorism hang in the air because he knew Mitt would use it. I wonder if they showed Candy Crowley the video so she’d be able to tell Willard he was wrong.
Barack is intelligent.
Mitt is not.
Plus Obama plays poker, chess & basketball. He knows strategy. Romney’s idea of strategy is to say whatever people want to hear to close the deal.
I’m sure that has worked for Mitt in the confines of the boardroom. It doesn’t work when you treat every audience as a discrete entity without regard to the fact that your contradictory positions will become obvious.
CNN first results. Obama wins 46-39, and they admitted that their sample even has a larger percentage of Republicans than the national averages. This is huge.
Ezra Klein said actually Bush did want to voucherize Medicare, but Obama said he didn’t. If Repubs call him on it, it only highlights something people don’t want. They lose either way.
Bush didn’t know what he wanted.
Speaking of the stupid little phucker, he sure has been quiet this last year hasn’t he?
Poor sap, what with the drought in Texas he doesn’t even have a lawn to mow.
Or brush to clear.
‘Agoraphobic’ George W. Bush Now Painting Pictures Of Dogs, Landscapes For Fun http://www.mediaite.com/online/agoraphobic-george-w-bush-now-painting-pictures-of-dogs-landscapes-for-fun/
oh, interesting
Another well-known sociopath was a failed painter….. he took his failure out on other people *after* he learned he was crap…. on Poland, Czechoslovakia, France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, ….Russia….
I do believe he was ‘asked’ to keep a very, very low profile (way in the background).
[I’m wondering if he may be in the early stages of dementia]
Or he’s afraid of getting arrested by a foreign nation.
I wonder if those women in the binders were paid as much as the men that held the same job? Maybe Mitt was looking for binders full of women because he knew he could pay them less. Sort of a reverse Lilly Ledbetter.
While y’all were watching the debate, you may have missed a critical piece of news: Tigers win and now are 3-0 against the Yankees.
So? No one care about the football!
Heh! Zooey, your sports expertise is simply amazing.
Go Tigers!
Jane, I’m cheering for the Tigers – until they meet the Gs in the WS then my Orange and Black loyalty is in full force.
Yeah, that’s me. 🙂
Outsourcing can work.
Thanks to the hard work of all you good folks, I didn’t have to watch the debate, or the game, and am now in a really good mood.
I had a hard day at the beach you see…
Chuck Todd makes me nauseous.
Okay, so my sister didn’t un-friend me, she just blocked me. Totally different, right? She’s got “very important stuff” coming up, so she can’t deal with me.
Yeah, I’m flattered.
You know what? If she can’t handle this shit, she shouldn’t start trying to handle it.
Whatever. I’ve got plenty of sisters and dads who hate me.
Make her come crawling back to you. Sisterly bonding is way over rated if your sister is a bitch.
You can be my fifth sister. I realize it’s not the same as ‘blood’ relatives.
Srsly, it’s much better, IMHO.
I have several “little sisters” and one, biological, “big sister”. My “little sisters” are much cooler.
We love ya QZ. Family are those who care. Gotyr back.
Thanks, nwoldguy.
Yikes! You tried to distract your sister from “very important stuff”? Shame on you, I had no idea your sister was trying to negotiate a fair peace in the Middle East. Is this the fundie sister?
Yes. She tries to claim to be a “moderate,” but she exposed herself tonight.
It makes me sad, but knowing where I stand is valuable.
It makes me sad too. I had one sister who died in 1978. We disagreed on some things, but she’d have defended my right to my own opinion to all comers. Perhaps your sister doesn’t really appreciate the value of having someone you can both love and argue with. Perhaps you threaten her insular worldview. I suspect she has no idea of the worth of what she’s willing to give up.
Outstanding, she’s always been able to prioritize in her life. I have never made the cut, and she has never realized it.
The ball is in her court — which is what I’ve been saying about my youngest sister for years.
I’m glad I have my sisters of choice.
To thine own self be true…
I was once offered the information that a persons greatest challenge in life is to survive their families.
I just tuned into Fox. You’ll never guess what they’re discussing. Libya. Who could have seen that coming?
What are they suggesting?
Revolution?
Invasion?
-chuckle-
Oh, no. Just that the president didn’t call it act of terror (even though he did).
Debate: Reader’s Digest Version:
Mitt: I care about 100% of the people.
Obama: 47%
TKO: Obama.
Romnoid and the complex he represents care about the 100% as it relates to control.
As in total control.
How long did it take FAUX”News” to start whining about the questions? 32 seconds.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/16/1029911/32-seconds-after-the-debate-ended-fox-started-blaming-the-questions/
A clear acknowledgement that Rmoney lost.
MSNBC talking to undecideds. These people are either total attention whores, or totally clueless.
These people, not all, are clueless, and attention whores. The young woman who says she’s leaning towards Romney because of his success in Mass. is totally clueless. Are you fuckin kidding me? Give me five minutes with her. Christo redemptor forgive me.
They’ve already decided, but they won’t admit it themselves. They’re ashamed of their decision, so they deny it.
Maybe…yeah you’re probably right. It is just frustrating to hear that shit after 18 months of primary debates, forty thousand acres of print,
Both.
Well, that was a much better debate than the first one, President Obama came out swinging, Bully/Coward Romney showed his true colors, and Candy did a pretty damn good job overall.
Now I can sleep a little better. Goodnight, all!
Goodnight, sister!
Can’t listen to this anymore. Must watch some Doctor Who and then sleep.
Jeebus, I hope I’m not hungover in the morning.
Goodnight, Zooey
Night all.
Sleep well, zxbe.
It’s all good, regardless of TtT and badmoodman. Just poking at you guys. 😉 Bonne nuit all…
For the moment, all is right with the world, nwog.
Drift into the arms of morpheus and awakened refreshed!