Sunday Roast: Veterans Day

Veterans Day is a United States holiday which honors ALL military veterans, living and dead.  Remembrance Day is commemorated on the same day in Britain, Canada, and several other countries, to remember those who died serving their countries, and marking the anniversary of the signing of the Armistice by the Germans at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, 1918, which ended World War I.

Please join TheZoo in honoring all who serve their countries in the military, and remembering those who never came home.

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80 thoughts on “Sunday Roast: Veterans Day

  1. Food for thought:

    This is the first Veteran’s Day that there are no longer any living survivors who fought in World War I.

    • My dad’s a veteran of WWII and he’s 90, so I guess that shouldn’t be a surprise. Still, those vets have been around all my life so this is a little unsettling.

  2. In the UK, the centenary of the start of WW1 is creating quite a bit of national interest – in the history of people’s families and the times (that would be be 1914 to you lot not 1917 – except dybcker who’s lot got into to it nice and timely). There have been several shows where they attempt to create the reality of what it was like to be in the trenches …. I think the interest is very healthy.

    In Britiain and in the former Empire (Canada, Australia, South Africa and so on), today is called Remembrance Day. The mood is more like Memorial Day (without the car and mattress sales) may meant to be than Veterans Day perhaps.

    If you ever want to read up on the history of the war, you have to read Lyn Macdonald’s series of oral histories of the war, less about the strategy and the big picture, but the stories of the men who were there, before they passed on

    The best book on the start of the war and the politics – it really is an incredible read even today – Barbara Tuchman’s the Guns of August. Although I now have Niall Ferguson’s the PIty of War which looks at some new material which emerged from the archives of the former East Germany after 1989 and cast’s a new slant on the players and the motivations.

    • And I forgot to add – if you want to trace you way back to the single most influential event in modern history – from the dominance of oil in geo-polictics, the rise of communism, the chaos of the Middle east, the rise of America and the fall of europe and the return of Islam …. you can trace it all back to one sunny July day in Sarajevo and one committed young Serbian with a pistol …..

  3. Meanwhile Captain Poopypants is still not dead of in jail – day 5 of the Ted Nugent Death or jail Watch….

    OMG – not all Confederates are spongers ….. and not all spongers are Confederates …. but the intersection of the two sets is significant

  4. Recount Ordered in House race between Allen West and Patrick Murphy

    Election officials in St. Lucie County will recount early votes cast in the hotly contested race for Florida’s 18th district’s House seat between Tea Party favorite Rep. Allen West and his challenger, Democrat Patrick Murphy.
    The St. Lucie County Canvassing Board announced late Saturday it had set an “emergency meeting” to start at 7 a.m. Sunday at its headquarters, to “recount all ballots cast during early voting.” The number of early ballots is estimated by officials to be roughly 37,000.

    Twitter got this started. An example:

    Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, Florida – The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast(141.10% )

    Remember how we were told that the ballots in Florida were really long, and it was causing some of the delays? It took two vote cards to accommodate each person’s ballot, so, of course there were more cards than actual voters!

  5. QOTD – my pal Dan: “And if a man lie with mankind….. he shall surely be stoned”……

    Now remember, me and my pal Dan, we live in *Washington State*. I trust the Zoosters….. the Ohio RWNJ community who ‘liked’ this on Dan’s FB, probably didn’t get the point……

    • The narrow-mindedness of RWNJ/fundamentally idiotic religious type would not.

      Weed and weddings in Washington now that’s a great progressive state!

        • Why? You wouldn’t be any less married if you were. 😀

          Or would you have used that as a defense that you weren’t capable of legally granting consent?

  6. Fall in Minnesota. Yesterday we set a record high of 69 degrees. We had thunder storms over night. Now it’s 32 degrees and snowing.

  7. In Flanders Fields

    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row,
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the Dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved and were loved, and now we lie
    In Flanders fields…

    Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae was a soldier, physician and poet.

    • Aftermath

      Have you forgotten yet?…
      For the world’s events have rumbled on since those gagged days,
      Like traffic checked while at the crossing of city-ways:
      And the haunted gap in your mind has filled with thoughts that flow
      Like clouds in the lit heaven of life; and you’re a man reprieved to go,
      Taking your peaceful share of Time, with joy to spare.
      But the past is just the same–and War’s a bloody game…
      Have you forgotten yet?…
      Look down, and swear by the slain of the War that you’ll never forget.

      Do you remember the dark months you held the sector at Mametz–
      The nights you watched and wired and dug and piled sandbags on parapets?
      Do you remember the rats; and the stench
      Of corpses rotting in front of the front-line trench–
      And dawn coming, dirty-white, and chill with a hopeless rain?
      Do you ever stop and ask, ‘Is it all going to happen again?’

      Do you remember that hour of din before the attack–
      And the anger, the blind compassion that seized and shook you then
      As you peered at the doomed and haggard faces of your men?
      Do you remember the stretcher-cases lurching back
      With dying eyes and lolling heads–those ashen-grey
      Masks of the lads who once were keen and kind and gay?

      Have you forgotten yet?…
      Look up, and swear by the green of the spring that you’ll never forget.

      Siegfried Sassoon

    • Yep, that was me!

      Every time the talking heads would have me feeling anxious, I’d click over to Nate’s place and feel all better again. 🙂

  8. I sincerely hope that a whole lot of attorneys make a bundle representing wrongfully terminated employees in class action suits. I used to do a fair bit of hiring and firing and made it my business to understand what constitutes acceptable grounds for firing an employee. I’m pretty sure that “throwing a tantrum because a black guy is still president” is not a valid excuse. I have a feeling that all these toddlers in suits end up spending a whole lot more in court costs and damages than they would lose to any, so far imaginary, regulations that might pass.

    • Bloody Bill was relatively quiet during this election cycle. Reading between the lines one gets the feeling that he wasn’t fond of the original candidates or the eventual nominee. He probably still has a crush on Bible Spice and can’t stand the thought of any other GOoPer getting attention.

    • Isn’t he still challenging? I don’t see him giving up that easily. Last I read he wanted each and every ballot recounted by hand.

  9. From Science Daily

    A new study has found that fairy-wren chicks are taught a ‘password’ by their mothers while they’re still in their eggs. This is a specific note that they must cheep in order to be given food after they hatch. It’s thought that this is a defence against nest parasites like cuckoos.

  10. Four presidents in the last century have won 50 percent of the vote twice: Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan, and Obama.


    • Hmmh. Colorado among them with 324 petition sigs. I probably know (accidentally and unintentionally for sure) most, if not all, of the dickheads who’ve signed on so far. Oh well, as I like to say, “don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.” Besides, I’ve long figured I’d rather live in Hawaii anyway. Far fewer idiots (read: Republicans) there than almost any other state.

    • 834 so far from Alabama. They might get a few more, but most can’t read well enough to know to sign the petition.

      Tennessee isn’t on the list yet, so I might not have to move too far, at least the first time.

    • The headline is, of course, a complete lie. No states have filed a petition. A bunch of mouth-breathers scattered throughout the South have filed petitions. Because, after all, those microcephalic moochers are bigoted losers. Somebody call the wahahmbulance.

    • I signed the petition for each State that was part of the Confederacy.

      Peaceful secession won’t happen. Well, maybe, if every United States Citizen in each State renounces his/her citizenship. That’s because we all hold dual citizenship. We are citizens of the United States of America first and foremost, and citizens of a particular State secondarily. In fact, I’m not sure each of the separate 50 States has a clause in their State Constitutions defining State citizenship.

      Be that as it may, for a State to leave the United States, is to deprive United States Citizens their rights as a U.S. Citizen. Thousands upon thousands of Americans killed each other, with the ultimate outcome saying a State cannot leave the Union.

      But I think it would be interesting if more people signed a petition for a particular State than the total population of that State. It would send some sort of message, don’t you think?

  11. What I like about this is that in the comments below it, he listed some of the names of some of the athletes looking to get scholarships. I completely agree with the idea of contacting their schools and letting them know they’re recruiting someone who will not being honor to their school. The video poster’s (tomthunkit) comments are below the video. Oh, and I like that you can clearly read everyone’s twitter account name, so those of you on Twitter can find them and reply back. 🙂

    Someone started looking up these nasty people online (very easy to do) and a few of them have or are looking for sports scholarships for college. Some of them have recruiting pages online. In America, we have freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences of that speech.

    Please feel free to share these exceptionally racist remarks with their future schools.

    Ricky Catanzaro – football player at Xaverian High School in Brooklyn
    Lou LaDonna – football player at West Islip High School
    Kordie Girton – baseball scholarship to Indiana State University
    Addison Sykes – football player at Jackson Christian Jackson, TN
    Brandon Norrie – baseball player at Sickles High School Tampa, FL
    Michelle Brosam – soccer player at Rider HS Wichita Falls, Texas
    Cole Krut – baseball player at Beaver Falls, PA
    Demi Keely – pageant girl in Carencro, Louisiana
    Gabe Dutch – baseball player at Redwood HS Visalia, CA
    Stehl Taylor – hockey player at Central York HS York, PA
    Davis Moody – runner at Mill Creek HS Hoschton, Georgia

    The silence of good people is more destructive than the vicious behavior of those who are bigots. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    • Funny. A whole bunch of them are repeating their favorite FAUX”News” host’s bullshit but just add a “nigger” or “monkey” just to make their racism clear for all to see. Just more proof that; when FAUX”News” speaks? The “nigger” is implied.

  12. Danica had a better than average Cup race at Phoenix today. She went down a lap fairly early, but she hung in there and fought her way back to be the first car one lap down, and got back on the lead lap on a caution with 30 laps left in the race. Then she was passing long time rival Sam Hornish, (they’ve been competing since their go-kart days, plus the Indycar series), and they bumped and he wrecked. She then avoided a big wreck two laps from the end, which caused a halt to the race, while the track was cleared. She restarted 15th, but she was wrecked as they came around for the last lap. She was limping the car across the finish line and crossed just after the winner passed her so she didn’t have to make another lap. Then other cars wrecked behind her as they came to the finish line and ran into her already damaged car, but she was OK. She was credited with 17th place, for her best Cup finish so far.

    She finished tenth yesterday in the Nationwide race, and could have been further forward except for Austin Dillon getting sideways in front of her late in the race, when she was running sixth. She didn’t hit him, but she had to check up and several cars passed her before she could get back to speed.

    Next week is the last weekend of the season at Homestead, Florida.

    • I watched both and Danica did very well. That was some finish today! Bowyer may have deserved something but was that the time to do it?

      • Dycker, those racing deals never start at the wreck that is the ultimate result. Gordon’s crew chief made it sound like Bowyer had repeatedly given Gordon problems.
        The Danica-Hornish saga continues.

        • I think the Bowyer-Gordon thing is a long standing one. Gordon should never have ‘waited’ for Bowyer to come along, he was black flagged before that last incident. Easy to say from a thousand miles away!!

  13. Tammy Baldwin To Ron Johnson: ‘I’m Quite Confident’ I Understand The Federal Budget

    Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D), Wisconsin’s new senator-elect, is confident that she will be able to understand the federal budget without the assistance of Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.).

    In an Associated Press interview on Wednesday, Johnson said he hoped he would be able to work with Baldwin in the Senate — as soon as he explained the “facts” of the budget to her.

    “I was a double major in college in mathematics and political science, and I served for six years on the House Budget Committee in my first six years in the House,” Baldwin responded in an interview with The Huffington Post on Friday.

    Baldwin has served in Congress since 1999; Johnson took office in 2011.

    I am gobsmacked on this one. Hubris, thy name is Johnson!

      • I think maybe he placed THIRD of two. That can happen when a tee-tiny Johnson meets up with an adult, esp. one who is dynamic, intelligent, a woman, und so weiter. The additional fact that Ms Baldwin is proudly a Lesbian suggests, too, that maybe there really IS some sort of “justice” in this universe.

        IOW, Fuck off, “Johnson” — AKA “Die Verschwundene Miniatur”! 😆

    • This is another instance where one wishes more politicians felt free to speak their minds. Something like; “you’ve done enough damage”, would be much more satisfying.

    • Ron meet Scott Brown – he can tell you all about how misogynists are brought down a few pegs/treated by extremely intelligent women.

      Go suck an egg you dolt.

    • That is a good show. So is Boardwalk Empire. Although much of the scenery has probably been washed away. Sad.

    • Keeping all positive thoughts this will be!
      Especially Joe’s ouster!

      Glad to read Carmona still has a chance!

  14. Tonight on Fox, not the “news”. Bart Simpson was writing on the blackboard:

    “I will nor concede the election until Karl Rove tells me.”

  15. While the “librul media” was watching the drama in Florida; Arizona has been dragging their heels on counting votes. Reportedly, most of those are newly registered Hispanic voters in Maricopa County. Assuming that those votes are ever counted; we might have been premature in assuming that Flake the flake and Sheriff Joe won. I could put up with Batscat Bachmann for the rest of my life if the Dems pick up another Senate seat and Racist Psychopath Joe is finally sent packing.

  16. Okay y’all, I need to find a new progressive talk radio station stat! KPOJ is turning into a Fox station on Monday. Dammit!

    Anyone know a good one that’s also online?

  17. I had a little glitch with my QuickTime viewer so I just got to watch this unspeakably vile POS. Frank Luntz has the unmitigated gall to say that GOoPers should be mad at “establishment pollsters” who told them the GOoPers were going to win. Guess what? Frank “Whining Little Bitch” Luntz was saying the GOoPers were going to win. He said that Mittens would win. He said the GOoPers would take the Senate. He said the GOoPers would gain seats in the House. And, best of all, he was leading the charge to denigrate any “establishment poll” that dared to say any Democrat anywhere was leading.

    inSeanitty used his numbers. Bill0 used his numbers. Turdblossom used his numbers. And Megyn “The Shiny Whore” Kelly used HIS NUMBERS!!!

    Now I have to breath slowly and drink beer until I can go to sleep. G’night, good people.

    • So, they should be mad at Rasmussen, Gallup, Gravis Marketing, and Mason Dixon? When PPP, Marist, Opinion Research etc. didn’t tell them what they wanted to hear?

      Aren’t these the same folks who paid Moody’s, Fitch’s and Standard and Poors to lie about their CDOs and call them AAA, when they were trash? They don’t want truth,

    • Goodnight, petelngh!
      Sleep knowing the Repugnants didn’t win!
      Apparently there ‘math’ was wrong.
      Sleep well knowing ALL the money spent went down the rat hole and now’s in shreds…
      Goodnight pete!

    • I’m supposed to be there in the morning at 6am. We’re on 4 11s and six on Friday right now, because of T’giving.

  18. Okay all y’all, Honeybump Soaps now has a page on facebook. 🙂

    If you’re already on my friends list, I’ve sent you a notice, if you’re not, here’s the link. Stop by and “like” me, if you’re so inclined.

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