Sunday Roast: We


Republicans, what part of this do you fail to understand?  No, we’re not asking you if you like it or think it’s good (by your standards) — that’s been decided.  Whether or not you like, accept, or understand it, Barack Obama is still our President.

“We” includes you, Republicans, so lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way, because we’re still trying to clean up your messes.

This is our daily open thread — Who else is beyond done with the WHINING?

85 thoughts on “Sunday Roast: We

  1. Being up early, as usual, I checked to make sure I hadn’t dreamed the end of the Alabama game last night, then I started channel surfing for something to keep me occupied until UP comes on. I wound up on Book TV on CSpan2 and there was Chrystia Freeland, doing a presentation for her book, “Plutocrats: the Rise of the New Global Super-Rich and the Fall of Everyone Else” done on 10-23-12. The discussion is an hour, but it might make you interested in reading her book. Check it out if you can spare some time.

  2. I think society is collapsing.
    Cracker Jack doesn’t come in a cardboard box anymore
    Hostess has gone bankrupt.
    Bazooka Joe is being retired.
    The President is black.

    The first three items have me concerned.

    • Is the collapse of society item one, or the premise exhibited by the four following items?

      A few years ago I tried a box of Cracker Jacks, and they were about the same as forty-plus years before. I’ve never eaten Hostess products, because we have Little Debbie here in the South, and I quit chewing gum decades ago.

      • Last time I had a piece of Bazooka joe gum was for halloween several decades ago. It was awful
        Likewise with the Hostess products.

  3. We spent last evening watching, via Netflix streaming, the first three hours or so of a multi-part (4-5 hour) biography of Franklin Roosevelt. One thing kept striking me like a sledge: the Republicans then were every bit as goddamned stupid, idiotic, mean-spirited, and greedy as they are today, and their anti-FDR tactics were scarcely a whit different from what they’re today using on Obama, and the nation is enduring extremely similar consequences in result!

    Will they ever learn? Apparently the answer is a resounding NO.

    There was included a film snippet from a campaign speech given on October 31, 1936, a speech in which Roosevelt said (highlight added, sort of):

    We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace–business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

    They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

    Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me–and I welcome their hatred.

    I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master.

    I would love nothing more than to hear Obama speak those lines today, as if they were his own (and in a sense they basically ARE his own, given that absolutely NOTHING has changed in EIGHTY FUCKING YEARS!)

    Why the hell do we as a nation continue to put up with Republicans and their crap? Are we really, collectively, that STUPID?? If anyone ever figures that one out, feel free to let it fly!

    • It is rather interesting that we have a long history of fictional entertainment in books and movies that are quite popular, depicting the evil schemes of the rich and powerful who want to take over the US, at a minimum, or the world.

      That is is more than ample evidence of that sort of activity in real life is relegated to tin foil hat fantasy. The rich and powerful would never actually try and do anything like that.

  4. There is a diary on the front page of Kos detailing why raising the Social Security eligibility age is a bad idea. The information that shocked me is…
    The average male life expectancy at 65 has risen 1.5 years between 1982 and 2006 for those in the bottom half of earnings distribution. For those in the top half, life expectancy increased 5.4 years.

    • I’ve always felt that lowering the retirement age would add more of an economic boost as it provides openings for upward mobility of younger employees .

  5. Howard Kurtz is massively sucking up to his new boss Jeffrey Zucker, the incoming President of CNN Worldwide, on his show Reliable Sources. He’s just going to vault CNN to the top of the cable news ratings!

    Yeah right. I’ll believe it when Rupert dismantles Fox in a dementia-fueled hissyfit, and MSNBC fires all their primetime hosts, because Comcast decides to go full-corporate propaganda.

    • Kurtz gleefully brings up Tom Ricks’ stint on Fox, calling Fox as “operating as a wing of the Republican Party”, and how he wouldn’t go on MSNBC the next day, because ‘you’re just like Fox, but not as good at it.’
      Kurtz invited Ricks back to his show, but he declined that too.
      (Presumably because as bad as MSNBC might be, they’re still better than CNN!)

    • Interesting how fate takes a pause every now and then, how it sometimes acts to “save” the world (from itself, actually) rather than destroy it. I mean, hey, at least Jeffrey Zucker has become a NEWS media big shot. I mean, WHAT IF he’d become, say, a poultry executive instead? And suppose that his poultry enterprise had come up with a new and interesting breed of chicken to be used by both egg people and by supermarket meat counter people? What then?

      I mean, that sort of stuff suggests that there is, indeed, a God out there in charge of things — a God that ‘knows’ implicitly that it’s better to put Jeffrey Zucker in charge of CNN than it would be to send him instead into the chicken industry.

      I mean, think of it. What if Jeffrey might have, in that ‘other’ potential employ, come up with a new breed of chicken? Imagine a world where the poultry industry might become ‘defined’ by the two most important chickens in the world: the Hen Zucker, and the Cock Zucker!

      Yep. there must be a God. Really. 🙂

  6. Yesterday evening I decided to plow through the petitions to the government at I was not the least bit surprised that a great many of them are crazy nor was I surprised that all the petitions for secession appear to have been composed by the same person. But? This one really stood out.

    STOP White Genocide through halting MASSIVE non-white immigration into EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.

    The funny part is that, based on my experiences in Two Harbors, Minnesota, I would say that there’s about a 95% chance that this racist fool has never even met a person who is a member of a minority unless one counts Catholics as a minority group.

    • Mention the NRA and I only need to see one possible outcome of any story: Will it sell more guns and ammo? If so, then you have the most plausible motive where the NRA is concerned.

      • Also the most plausible ‘reason’ to relieve gun-toting nutcases of their gun ownership/possession “privileges.”

        To CLARIFY THE SECOND AMENDMENT! should be an ongoing and purposeful task of the non-dead everywhere. No one in their right mind could, after all, ever imagine that the Founders had in mind today’s NRA “philosophy” when they wrote the Second Amendment. The Founders were NOT, after all, NUTS.

    • Any identities you or anyone else might be able to supply in re the posted photos would be GREATLY appreciated! I’ve plowed through, several times and over again, the National Audubon Society’s “Field Guide to Mushrooms”, always with only marginal success.

  7. I went out for a brief flying session after the pathetic Vikings game and saw something I’ve never seen before. There was a guy out mulching leaves with his mower. In December. In freakin’ Minnesota!

    If global warming wasn’t a hoax i might start to think that there’s something screwy with the climate. I’ve decided to ignore the new grass shoots that have sprung up in the bare dirt left from some landscaping that was done in November. In freakin’ Minnesota!

    • I almost worked on leaves, but it was warm enough to wash the hackberry sap off my car, which needed to be done because today was probably the last day before colder weather. I can get up leaves in cooler temps than 73. Now I can tell I have a blue car again!

      I can’t wait for the BCS selection show, so I can find out which bowl Alabama plays in. 😀

    • This afternoon, here at 6000 ft elevation and just seven miles from the base of the Rocky Mountain front range — December 2, 2012 — the afternoon temp hit 77 degrees. I took a walk this morning. It was clear and sunny, and neither the Wet Mountains to the west nor Pikes Peak (including its 14,000 ft summit) to the north had more than the most sparse ‘teacups’ full of snow on them. Our local lake, the area’s water supply, is ten feet down from its high point. We’ve had no rain … zero, zip, nada … in months, and no snow this fall; everything in the landscape is brown; the stream in Greenhorn Valley is dry; the nine hole ‘western’ course, adjacent to the regular 18 hole country club course hasn’t been watered at all since mid-summer and is dried and brown. If this keeps up, if there’s no more precip in the high country in the next six months than there’s been in the last six, next summer’s fires will be unreal. Of course, no one need worry, the lake will be dry and everyone will have had to move away, so what’s the problem?

      Good thing global warming and climate change is a left wing hoax. Oh, wait … the world is ending in what, 19 days? That will be a relief!

    • Oregon vs Kansas State in the Fiesta Bowl, aka the Woulda Coulda BCS Championship?
      Wisconsin vs. Stanford in the Grandaddy. Don’t sell this matchup short, the Badgers destroyed Nebraska last night!

      • Badgers destroyed Nebraska last night!

        Nebraska did try – at least they got on the board for 31 points.
        WI just kept on scoring!


        Why were the ESPN dolts pissed about the Orange Bowl participants?

        • Northern Illinois got in as a conference champion from a non-automatic qualifying conference, ranked 16th or better, and ranked ahead of an automatic qualifying conference champion. This is the first time this happened with a team that wasn’t undefeated, like Boise State or Hawaii.

  8. Watching the ESPN Bowl Selection Show, this flashed across the bottom of my screen, Sanchez benched, McElroy leads Jets past Cardinals

    What happened? Why didn’t they play Tebow? 😀

    • Tebow was inactive due to his broken ribs. It does make one wonder if Sanchez would have been yanked if Tebow had suited up. Given the year that Sanchez has had I’m starting to think that Ryan isn’t happy with having God-boy shoved down his throat. But how would I know? The only time I’ve actually seen Tebow play he was carving up the Vikings like the second coming of John Elway.

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