I happen to be a fan of FactCheck.org. They are a non-partisan site dedicated to checking facts in political discussions and reporting the results no matter who it helps or hurts. For example, many of us on the Left have pointed out that the reason Social Security should be off the table during debt ceiling and budget talks is because it is not contributing a penny to the federal deficit. FactCheck looked into that and you know what? It turns out that is not entirely true. And with the problem getting a little worse each year (the payroll tax “holiday” isn’t helping the long term prospects of Social Security, even if it is putting about twenty bucks or so a week in your pocket today), it was wrong of Sen Dick Durbin (D-IL) to repeat the claim last month. So while I may not like what I hear from them sometimes, being the good Liberal that I am, I let facts change my mind. So I no longer say Social Security is not contributing to the deficit or debt, because right now it is.
One of the things FactCheck does (and does well) is check the facts in all those viral e-mails you get, usually accusing President Obama of doing something unprecedented, or illegal, or, I don’t know, black. There usually isn’t a lot of truth in those e-mails. Yes, Barack Obama is the President of the United States, but that’s usually where the truth ends in those e-mails. In their year-end summary, FactCheck.org reviewed many of the viral e-mails of the past year that didn’t pass, shall we say, the smell test.
Whether it’s the truth about how much of our national debt can be blamed solely on Obama (both sides have been wrong on this one), did Obama give stimulus money to Chinese contractors to build bridges in the U.S. (no, he didn’t), does Mitt Romney’s son Tagg (he’s the tall, thin, dark-haired one) own voting machines in Ohio (no, he doesn’t), or did the IRS pay billions in tax refunds to workers who are in the U.S. illegally (okay, that one turned out to be true), Fact Check.org digs in and uncovers the truth.
For those interested in the truth (which makes being right easier), I recommend FactCheck.org. If you know of any fact-checking sites with as much or more reliability, I’d like to hear what they are. Because, being the good Liberal that I am, I like Facts. You should, too. Life can be so much easier to deal with when viewed through the prism of Truth, as opposed to that of Ideology.
This is our daily open thread. Feel free to discuss FactCheck.org, some other fact-checking websites, or any other subject you wish. It’s a free country. And that’s a fact. At least I hope it still is.
OK. I have to differ with Factcheck.org on Social Security adding to the debt. The payroll tax ‘holiday’ isn’t given to workers because of Social Security, it is simply a fair way to distribute a tax cut proportionally to workers, with a cutoff at the Social Security cap of about $106,700 per year. It is merely the vehicle by which the cut is calculated and delivered. That is why it is fair for the general fund to replace the 2% reduction to the Social Security Administration. It was meant as a stimulus for the economy, passed by Congress, of course.
When Social Security begins to pay out more in benefits than it takes in, it does not add to the deficit either, If Social Security needs $100 billion dollars in 2013 to cover all costs, it redeems $100 billion in Treasury Bills of the roughly $2.7 trillion in surplus currently in the account. Therefore the US Treasury then ‘owes’ Social Security $100 billion less than the previous year, and even if they have to then sell $100 billion more in other treasuries to other US creditors, the US debt is not higher, it is merely shifted to other creditors. Only when
The Federal Reserve has been taking advantage of the extremely low interest rates to replace higher interest bonds it holds that have been maturing with longer term bonds with the low rates currently available. It’s called ‘Operation Twist’. This is a different strategy from the program called ‘Quantitative Easing’, which is basically printing additional money into circulation. This doesn’t really cost the member banks of the Federal Reserve any money either, because after the member banks are paid a dividend on their deposits, all surplus profit made by the Federal Reserve are paid to the US Treasury.
If I ever remember what my train of thought was at ‘Only when…’, I’ll add it in a comment. I had to get breakfast before UP came on, and got in a hurry.
Thanks for the explanation. FactCheck sometimes gets it wrong.
OK, I think I meant to say something like this:
Only when Social Security exhausts the surplus, could the claim be made that it could increase the debt, and only if Congress votes to subsidize it to keep benefits from dropping. As of now, Social Security can pay full benefits until 2033 to 2037, depending on whose numbers are used. After that time, it can continue to pay 75% to 87% of promised benefits, again, depending on whose numbers you use. If a means could be found to restore better paying jobs in the country, those estimates could be extended further into the future. The current trend of falling incomes for the majority, with more and more income going to the few at the top, is primarily responsible for the shortfall. That is why the cap on FICA should be increased and the income exclusions for passive investment be eliminated.
It’s a free country.
It’s also a paranoid country.
Disturbingly paranoid with a double standard.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/28/senate-approves-government-surveillance-measure
I can’t find anything presently that shows who voted for the renewal.
It gives numbers but not names.
You can find that here: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00236
Thanks Wayne.
A surprising number of Democrats were onboard the renewal of that.
I’m not surprised with Feinsteins vote.
PA has a newly re-elected Democratic Senator, Bob Casey Jr. and a teabagger Republican Senator, Pat “Club for Growth” Toomey and they both voted in favor of this FISA bill. I’m not surprised by either of their votes as PA is mostly rural and the people that live in those parts cling to their guns and bibles and everything frightens them.
Developing story. A Russian passenger plane has overshot the runway and crashed into a major road outside Moscow. No confirmed reports of casualties, but Twitter pictures (not available at link) show a broken up plane strewn across a road.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20865369#TWEET483726
The link has been updated with pictures and a video.
“Slow down, Junior.”
Today’s UP, while exploring one of the most important and relevant topics, is clearly showing that four guests are too many. When a guest is on a screen and not in studio, two in-studio guests should be subtracted from the panel, so each guest gets an adequate amount of time to speak.
And please, Chris Hayes, never invite that loud, obnoxious Chrystia Freeland (@cafreeland) on the show ever again. She’s the worst offender of talking over people, including the host!
She may be a really good writer, and she’s certainly knowledgeable, but she would be the fourth guest I would cut from the panel.
Obviously you’ve never seen SE Cupp because she is definitely #1 when it comes to talking over everybody. And the difference is she doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
I can believe that. I doubt she’ll ever make it onto UP.
Having Ezra Klein do Rachel’s show allowed Tom Coburn to appear last night, which he would never do with her there.
SE Cupp is another one I don’t want to hear from again. She’s also loud, obnoxious, usually wrong, and rude about the way she goes about it.
Chris’s analogy of the ‘secrets’ of the oil extraction industry eventually becoming the methods of all the companies, reminds me of the innovation in racing. Patents aren’t allowed in racing regulations, so the best teams have to stay one step ahead of the others to remain at the top technologically. Because the ‘secrets’ can only be small ones, by the sporting regulations of each series, overall differences in competition are small also. In business, such a system would benefit the consumer most.
If Richard Wolff’s idea of employee-owned co-ops intrigues you, look up Mondragon Corporation in Spain.
Irony:
Yesterday, I ate lunch at a healthfood cafe. Got food poisoning.
Did you eat raw food? Are you sure that it is food poisoning and not something else?
I had a cup of their homemade clam chowder & a half of a bbq chicken sandwich. The chicken was not hot. Symptoms resemble a staff infection from the chicken, which can happen.
If the chicken wasn’t fully cooked, then that is a problem. Staph infection is serious business. Keep the essential oils handy, especially, rosemary, thyme, and basil.
Likewise the chicken could have picked it up from a counter-top. Gotta be careful with chicken. I got lysteria once – on a camping trip, no less. That was nasty.
My system does a good job of flushing it out – literally. Reiki to calm the stomache ( I hate throwing up), then lots of fluids to help things clean themselves out. Essentially a 24 hour liquid diet, then some chicken soup, ritz crackers, etc.
Clams. Never eat seafood inland.
Shit happens. 😉
You can say that again…and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….and again….
😛
I’ve told you a million times — don’t exaggerate. 😛
nag…nag….nag…..
Besides, I wasn’t exaggerating. If anything, I undercounted.
Oh I’m sorry, I hope you feel better soon. 😦
Depends…are you better?
😉
Better than you at the moment. 🙂
How about if we change subjects,
returning you now to the open thread….
Heh. 😆
Obviously, Judge Roy has not evolved. He got left behind.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/12/26/judge-moore-evolution-destroying-the-constitution/
Just because the Theory of Evolution didn’t exist when the Constitution was written did not mean that our Founding Fathers intended us to live in the ignorance of Biblical thinking forever. They allowed for the Constitution to be amended because they were smart enough to know that over time, people learn things about the Universe that they didn’t know before. Between the time of the Revolution and the writing of the Constitution, the planet Uranus was discovered (1781). The only reason the authors of the Declaration (Jefferson didn’t write it alone) referred to a “Creator” was because the Theory of Evolution hadn’t been formulated yet. Otherwise, I’m sure that famous phrasing would have been worded differently, perhaps as something like “All men are born equal with inherent inalienable rights…”
It’s interesting to me that not a one of society’s common ‘worship’ words — including Creator, God, Jesus, or Christ, or their roots — appear anywhere in the constitution. The root “religio” appears twice, once in Article VI, Clause 3: “… no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States” and, of course, in the First Amendment which specifically disallows any law that might serve the concept of “establishment of religion”.
Maybe it’s just me, but I have to wonder if Judge Moore has ever even read the thing, much less understood anything at all about what it really says and the basis which ubderlies and defines?
We’re not going by the rules because we don’t think the rules matter anymore.
The Fundies think because they re-elected him, it validates his position on the Ten Commandments Rock. All it proved is that they will vote religion over principle and law.
Fundies also believe that facts are determined by majority opinion, not empirical evidence.
Majority opinion expressed by voting to change people’s Constitutional Rights, and that those rights can vary from state to state based on ‘local opinion’.
Can’t read it because an ad keeps following me as I scroll, and I can’t figure out how to get rid of it.
Refresh the page and the add should go away.
Thanks. 😳
That is a stunning word salad. Basically, humans are barely better than animals, and any attempt to improve on that situation is wrong and against god’s plan.
It appears that the judge only achieved anything he’s done in life in order to have power over the animals…er, humans.
Despicable.
I really hope this is a legitimate interpretation of the picture, because if it is, it would be AWESOME!
I remember seeing a wall of local firefighters in a picture blocking the WBC from at least one funeral.
It’s legit, but not actually the Hell’s Angels. It’s a group of vets called the Patriot Guard and they’re affiliated with the American Legion. They started the group to do the same thing at funerals for our war dead.
Westboro was going to picket Lisa Lampanelli’s comedy show. She offered to pay $1,000 to every gay who showed up to counter them. Gave away $20,000.
Fascinating – now the Hells Angels are the “good guys”.
OMG, I can’t believe I sent out two soaps the other day without labels. I just found them in the printer tray. I am friggin’ losing it.
You’ve been under juuuust a bit of stress, no?
A bit. 🙂
Kansas will complete its transformation into Brownbackistan next year:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/dec/29/2013-preview-conservageddon-coming-next-session-ka/
Brownstainistan?
Brownback said the [tax cuts] legislation “will create tens of thousands of new jobs and help make Kansas the best place in America to start and grow a small business.”
Yeah, but it will also make Kansas a horrible place to live. If it weren’t for the economic slavery the Conservatives have managed to impose on most of us, I’m sure the citizens of Kansas would move out of that state in protest. And that’s one of the problems with Capitalism – the false belief that people have so much economic freedom that they can just up and move to another part of the country if they don’t like something about where they live.
“And that’s one of the problems with Capitalism – the false belief that people have so much economic freedom that they can just up and move to another part of the country if they don’t like something about where they live.”
Well, isn’t that just what the Oakies did during the Dustbowl days of the Great Depression? Isn’t that what Romney proposed in his “self deportation” plan? In other words, if the “job creators” make conditions so miserable no one wants to live there anymore, folks can, have, and will just pack up and leave.
Will it be Obama’s fault when Kansas goes down in flames?
Sane Kansans may want to seek political asylum in Colorado or Illinois.
Nope. Goin’ down in flames is bekauz of globile worming – that’s Al Gore’s fault.
Kansas must be one of those states that doesn’t require a balanced budget. I wonder if the GOP-controlled government there would pass such a requirement now? Actually, I don’t have to wonder, since we all know Republicans love to spend money they don’t have so they have an excuse to “cut spending” when the Democrats take control. If i had the time to research it, I’d look into how many times Sam Brownback voted in the US Senate to spend money we didn’t have on unfunded things like war and prescription drug plans.
Oh, I’d love to see them pass that law. Then you’d see their state and local police flinch at trying to arrest Feds, who can just keep bringing in more and more agents until they can trump anything the locals try to pull.
It would certainly be interesting to see how the local police will enforce such a stupid law. Federal law trumps state law. Then again, these are tea baggers writing these laws and one can never accuse them of reading and understanding the Constitution of the United States.
They aren’t required to read or understand the Constitution, only to take an oath to support and defend it. I wish there was some enforceable and workable way to make all legislators, at all levels of government (including federal) take some kind of test on the Constitution when they apply to run for office. The results should be publicized weeks before the election so that voters know how well-informed on the Constitution the people they are considering are. But I have no idea who should develop the test or administer it, or whether it should be changed every year so that no one can memorize the right answers from the previous year. Just my humble opinion. 🙂
That’s a good idea. Naturalized citizens know more about our country and the Constitution than most natural born citizens and elected members to Congress.
I can’t help but question whether the Koch brothers ancestors supported Hitler and Nazi Germany. Anyone know if there is a family connection? I know that there is connection between Hitler and the Bush family.
Their mid-20th century familial heritage was apparently quite dependent upon Joseph Stalin. While I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the premise(s) as presented, the article is an interesting read, and quite believable … made more believable, actually, by the bizarre behavior typical of “the brothers.”
http://exiledonline.com/a-peoples-history-of-koch-industries-how-stalin-funded-the-tea-party-movement/
Clair Conner wrote a book which will be available in June 2013, “Wrapped in the Flag”. It tells the story of the John Birch Society. Fred Koch, the father, was an active member of the John Birch Society. They hated the communists yet they were connected to Stalin. It doesn’t make sense.
http://claireconner.com/wrapped-in-the-flag/
Very little about extreme conservatives makes any sense. Their philosophy is not logically coherent.
This next bowl game is liable to be fun to watch. it’s Syracuse vs. West Virginia in Yankee Stadium, and it’s almost blizzard conditions there.
College bowl games are, IMHO, stupid an unnecessary. And meaningless, too. Do they still use a system where they invite teams to play weeks or months ahead of time? Even still, why bother having the game at all when no one in their right minds would risk the commute to and from the stadium to see it?
The answer to the last question is television!
Forty years ago, it was an honor to have your team invited to play in a bowl game. Now, almost every team with six wins gets to play one.
Alabama – Notre Dame is five weeks after Alabama’s last game, six weeks after ND’s.
There are so many bowl games – by so many sponsors….eventually we’ll be treated to a bowl game sponsored by Preparation H: the Bowel Bowl.
[rimshot]
The Ty-D-Bol Bowl
I might watch the Tampa-X Bowl, but will not make any guarantees. 😉
Co sponsored by the diarrhea-mouthed woman for Phillips.
I will say this: The Virginia Tech – Rutgers game last night might have set college football back a few decades and was the worst offensive display I’ve seen in many years.
Yeah but the Texas Tech – Minnesota game had an exciting finish, unless you are a Minnesota fan!
The last football game of any kind I watched was in either 1998 or 1999. I forget. Can’t even remember who was playing. Now that I think about it, I guess it could have been a bowl of some sort, but wouldn’t swear to it.
The year 2013 may be the year of the comet. There are possibly two comets that will pass by the earth. The first one in March/April and the other around November.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/brighter-than-a-full-moon-the-biggest-star-of-2013-could-be-ison–the-comet-of-the-century-8431443.html
Cooooooooooooooooooooooooolllll!!!!!!!!!!!
If we lower the drinking age it will also be known as The Year of the Blitzen!
😆
And if everybody joins a ballet company, will it be the Year of the Dancer?
And if marriage equality passes in every state, will it be the Year of the Prancer?
And if everybody falls in love and gets married, will it be the Year of the Cupid?
This is fun. 🙂
I’m up for the Year of the Vixen!
😉
Or Vixen of the Year? 😀
That, two.
😀
Stay tuned for the nuts that will take comet Ison to be the next end of world event.
In case you missed it:
Watch Bernie Sanders take substitute host TJ Holmes to the woodshed on the false equivalence of why both sides shouldn’t have to give something equal to get a deal.
Common sense!
Bernie knows the score! The ‘news casters’ so want to blame both parties and Sanders squarely places it where it belongs – on Boner’s obstructionism.
Bernie is not really an Independent. He is a Social Democrat and since that is not an national party, he runs as an Independent.
Personally, I hate that Congress has C-SPAN label; anyone who is not a Democrat or a Republican as simply “Independent.” It’s not accurate. It makes it harder for people to know which party to support if they like people like Bernie (who, I thought, ran as a Socialist.)
He refers to himself as a member of the Socialist Democratic Party. Sorry, my first comment wasn’t clear.
One of the biggest mistakes:
Another great editing job and in HD too:
The Cinescape
I wonder what kind of connections the maker of this clip had, because some of the movies depicted in that just had their national release. It looked like I saw scenes that must have come from “Les Miserables,” “Django Unchained,” and “Jack Reacher,” and they haven’t been out very long.
Easy, they use clips from the HD trailers which are out months or weeks in advance of the film’s release.
And he’s allowed to use them without permission? Or does he get that beforehand?
You need to get permission from the copyright owner before uploading it to YouTube in order to avoid problems. You can upload unauthorized movie content to your YouTube channel but prepared to have it taken down and possibly suffer some consequences.
Disclaimer on the video:
‘ “2012: The Cinescape” was a non-profit project made solely for entertainment purposes, not aimed at breaking copyright law. No monetary gain was relevant for any of the parties involved. All rights to all material remain courtesy of their respective owners, none of which were involved with or notified of this project.’
I love these videos.
Matt Shapiro has been making these since 2007. Check out each year:
http://www.youtube.com/user/oyguvaltshappy?feature=watch
Now I want to go see ALL those movies even though I only recognized about 3 of them.
I could quibble with the wording, but I agree with the gist
So, they think they may have found the remains of King Richard III
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/12/28-king-richard-may-lie-under-parking-lot/
“…They paved paradise, and put up a parking lot…”
Another great victory for the NRA…
Man Shoots Granddaughter Thinking She’s An Intruder
So he sees a figure and shoots without ever yelling, “Get out of here! I’ve got a gun and I’ll use it!” Wow.
What truly disgusts me about this whole gun ownership for personal protection thing is that even if it was an intruder intent on burglarizing the home (which, at that point, would have been the only crime of which the intruder was guilty), that is not a capital offense. So why is a private citizen allowed to execute them?
I’m not in the least bit knowledgeable about the Law, but it sounds to me like Stand Your Ground laws (and I don’t know if that state has one) give a private citizen the authority to deprive someone else of his life without due process of law. Wouldn’t that make them unconstitutional? I mean, if the Constitution says the government can’t do something to a private citizen without due process of law, does that mean YOU can? BTW, the Constitution does not specify that the government is the one not allowed to deprive people of due process, just that no one shall be denied it. So it stands to reason that no state can empower a citizen to supersede the Constitution.
I agree completely, Wayne.
No jury would convict you and most police won’t charge you if you shoot someone who has broken into your home.
Shooting someone outside your home is an entirely different matter with many different consequences.
I may be nitpicking, but where is the line between “inside” and “outside” your home? If you perceive the person to be “breaking in” and they are still on the other side of the door, doesn’t that count as them being outside? And I say “perceive” because the girl very likely had a key and was letting herself in, so it wasn’t an intruder breaking in.
I am leaning (heavily) toward agreeing that once the intruder is inside your home, even if they haven;t actually threatened you in any way, that you may have the legal right to kill them. But I believe in there being a very limited list of legal excuses to kill another human being. And believing something isn’t good enough. You have to be right about what you “believe” is happening. Otherwise, you could make up a story after the fact and get away with murder.
Well, that is my point — Shooting INside the home: justified virtually all the time.
Shooting OUTside the home, or even entering the home: LOTS of questions and legal issues. My advice – yanno – if you’re planning on doing this sort of thing – is shoot them outside then drag them into your house. Much fewer legal hassles.
🙂
Except in states that have the “Castle Law”. You can shoot anyone that comes onto your property without asking questions first.
Again, trespassing is not a capital offense, so how can any legislature empower private citizens to deprive someone of their life w/o due process of law, especially for something that does not merit the death penalty?
Avon must have a hard time getting reps in those states.
Dashcam video of the Russian airplane that jumped the runway and landed on a road. The most amazing thing is that whoever is driving the car didn’t yell “Oh shitsky!” Or whatever…
What’s even stranger to me is why seemingly every car in Russia has a dashcam. Either that or there’s one car that really gets around Russia.
That was my thought too. I wonder why that’s the fad in Russia?
Maybe it’s not a fad but Putin’s mandate. Sort of a visual ‘black box’ for autos.
Weirder things have happened.
I just read that many Russians have dash-cams to provide necessary evidence in case of insurance claims. Wonder why that hasn’t become big here.
Maybe the drivers are hoping to get footage on accidents that they can sell to the media.
O shitsky sounds about right. After all, it’s not everyday that an airplane runs into a car.
I liked this one.
Artificially inflated grades to keep the athlete eligible for competition?
Not at the elementary school level. 🙂
It’s not an official thing, but these are good guidelines for those who’d like to tweet more
Due to de-funding and the fiscal cliff, the NOAA satellites which track storms are going to go into blackout for over a year starting in 2017. Not worried yet? Ok, but imagine Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy without any advanced notice:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/12/27/going-off-the-fiscal-cliff-could-mean-missing-the-next-hurricane-sandy/
You have to realize that the ‘Aerospace Industries Association’ are the corporations who reap the same kind of waste, fraud, and abuse money that the military industrial complex gorges itself with, and have every reason to fearmonger in order to keep their government teat from drying up.
I liked this one, too.