Watering Hole: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 – You Are Here

Check out this amazing and awesome picture at this link.  I didn’t want to cause any distortion to this picture and that is why I provided the link instead of posting the picture.

And you are also here…

In the overall scheme of things, we humans really are quite small.

This is our Open Thread.  Your turn to Speak Up!

79 thoughts on “Watering Hole: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 – You Are Here

  1. I’ve long found the ‘fly speck’ reality of human existence to be amusing, esp. when I happen to find myself in the company of a religious nutcase, or two or three. It’s always kinda fun to play around a little bit, maybe speak of the Big Bang theory, the theories of origin in re the Singularity that went bang-zoom close to 14 billion earth-years ago, maybe to take a look at various Hubble photos, etc. There’s only one certainty in this life, though, and that’s that in such company, the conversation always and invariably lands on the one “thing” that has never appeared in any photograph from any source, period. The one image that is ALWAYS absent in each and every (legitimate) graphic depiction of any and all things cosmic — is that of what ‘they’ call God. Is God camera shy, maybe? Or are we humans using the wrong film? Something like that?

    Or maybe the better question would be something like, why is there such rampant ‘belief’ in a ‘Creator’ to begin with? And humans are the very image of this thingee Thingee that made all this stuff? I mean, hey, I freely admit that I can’t really pin down exactly where the Singularity came from, but I’m OK with that little knowledge shortfall. But when I did once manage to get a Mormon (of all thingees!) to agree with me all the way down (up?) to the Big Bang premise, when I said the only point upon which I wasn’t clear was the nature of the Singularity itself, where it came from, the conversation picked up a little speed.

    “Oh, that’s the easy part,” Ray said. “God created it.”

    “Where did God come from?” I asked.

    “God is eternal.”

    “Ah. OK. But when speaking of things eternal, why do you need a God? It’d be far more reasonable, seems to me, to simply admit that yes, ‘something’ is ‘eternal’, obviously. But why call it God? Why not call it, say, the Singularity?”

    *Crickets*

    Anyway, ’tis a great galaxy in which we live. But really, I wanna see a photo of God! C’mon, Hubble, do your thing!

  2. After studying single cell biology, I was in awe as to where do we fit in all this. The tiniest parts of our cells are their own living worlds. The mitochondria has its own distinct DNA. Our blood cells travel along the highways that we call blood vessels. Neurons communicate with each other. Muscles have their own memory. We are like a container that holds a world of its own. This amazes me.

    • I’ve long sought an answer to a simple question: “Since the genetic code is universal amongst all life on earth, and since humans employ the exact same genetics as do all other life forms — from monkeys and mice to bacteria and viruses — and since (as we’ve all been told) Man is the earthly image of God the Creator … ummm … ” well, you know.

      Science is mind-blowing on every level. I was in college, way back in the sixties, when Nirenberg and Matthei first published their research on the basics of the genetic code, and I’ve been on the sidelines ever since, fascinated by the concept that all of life dangles on ‘that’ genetic thread! Amazing, and compelling!

      And then along come the Republican idiots and their preacher whack-job advocates, and suddenly all of Science is ‘obviously’ dismissible, the work of the devil, etc.

      WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS ONCE PROUD AND INTERESTING NATION???

      • “WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS ONCE PROUD AND INTERESTING NATION???”

        God. That’s what. Or, more appropriatly, how a select few people have used “God” to gain power and influence. Read “The Family” by Sharlett. It’s not just this nation. The Family has infiltrated halls of power around the world.

        • God. Yes. The root of all evil, or something like that.

          I regularly ask those who worship, those who proclaim the virtues of “God” to me if they might, please, “at your convenience”, show me even the thinnest, most translucent, tiniest thread of evidence that even SUGGESTS that any god, anywhere, even MIGHT exist.

          So far, nothing. But I’m not gonna hold my breath. No margin in that.

        • Yep. It really gined momentum when Raygun started humping Fallwell’s leg for the votes of the “Moral Majority”. Seemingly overnight we went from a society that rarely discussed religion in pleasant company to one where people, like myself, who didn’t go to church were being shunned out of a bizarre fear that anyone who associated with us would go to Hell.

          Of course, were it not for the fact that Psychochristians started winning elections, it’s been a good thing because I can hang out with smarter people.

          • I was last in a church back in July of 1995. My Uncle’s funeral. Then in 1999 I visited, each on the same day, the old Spanish missions in Arizona at San Xavier del Bac and Tumacacori. And in each place I saw ‘stuff’ that had do do with “God.” But there was no God there. Not one that I (or anyone else, afaik) could either see, touch, or have chit-chat with.

            So. Question: God? “It” doesn’t exist, obviously; so why does such a total and non-existent non-entity have such NASTY (!!) influence on the society in which I, an innocent and ‘ordinary’ non-entity, am assigned, by my own random birth, to live?

            I’m fucking tired of religious shit!

            There. I said it. When will the lightning strike me dead? Predictions, anyone?

            • I wonder, is it so much a question of whether God exists, or whether God, as defined by man, exists?

              Is there “something out there”, something beyond the capabilities of our senses to perceive? something beyond our comprehension?

              If we redefined “God” so as to not mean an omnipotent, omnipresent being, how would we define “God”? “The Force”?

            • Yeah, you’ve sorta summarized ‘the rub’ or whatever are the right words. Seems to me that OK, yes, there are things ‘out there’ that we as a species do not … CAN not … understand or comprehend. I have no problem with that. But here’s the thing: I’ve promised THE UNIVERSE in it’s entire that I’ll NEVER-not rely on Mythology to satisfy my intellectual shortcomings! Most likely, I’ll not in my lifetime (short for NEVER) gather in enough tidbits to explain the entire … well, OK, the ENTIRE: the universe (and whatever might lie beyond ‘our’ perception of ‘everything’ … and yeah, OK, I know … words tend to become insufficient when we speak of the unknowable, but y’know what I mean) — all to which I say, simply, “Oh well …” etc.

              But the bottom line remains, and it’s pretty simple actually: God exists ONLY as “It” has been created by people. And … IF (yeah, OK, uh huh) … If there really IS a God/Creator out there somewhere in the ether, why the hell doesn’t Shadow the Cat pay due heed?????

              I mean really; orders of magnitude more brilliant than I, and still she’s silent? Never bows, never worships, only stretches. Go figure.

              Nevertheless, here’s the thing: If spirits really do at some point reincarnate, I ask … beg … of all the gods that are out there … wherever/whichever dimension, and/or in which one, etc. … to bring me back, next life, as a cat; or maybe as a dolphin? a wolf? a tree? a cockroach?

              A Republican …… NO!! *BARF BARF*!!

              Shit. Well, OK, “God’s image” speaks. See above.

  3. The closing refrain from Eric Idle’s Galaxy Song:
    So remember when you’re feeling very small and insecure
    How amazingly unlikely it is your birth
    And pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space,
    Because there’s bugger all down here on Earth.

    source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/

    • We are but a speck, aren’t we? Maybe we are just tiny little vibrating strings in a much larger being 😉 and when we die, it’s just as if a single cell dies within us. The truth is, we really don’t know much.

  4. So it can only be used to attempt buying elections, and lobbying…
    either it is a person or it isn’t…court can’t have it both way (or perhaps it can)…

    Court: Marin man can’t use corporate personhood to beat carpool lane ticket

    Corporations may have many of the same rights as people, but those rights do not include riding in the carpool lane in Novato.
    That was the message Monday at Marin County Superior Court traffic hearing, where San Rafael activist Jonathan Frieman appeared to contest a $489 carpool fine.

    His argument? He was not riding alone in the carpool lane on Highway 101 in October, as alleged by police, because his corporation — a stack of papers named “JoMiJO Foundation” — was riding shotgun. Therefore, he was obeying the signs reading, “2 or more persons per vehicle.”…

  5. Hello, all.

    Just popping in for a few minutes to let you know I’m still among the living. Today and tomorrow will be spent with the sisty uglers, getting things going with my dad’s estate, and then I’m going to spend a couple days in my jammies and socks for a bit of decompression.

    Gawd, I miss all y’all!

  6. being the dirty old lecher i am, i have to say the highlight of the Alabama game last night was AJ McCarron’s girl friend, Katherine Webb…..

    • Complete and utter as*hole is that sheriff. He went to the NRA school of PR.
      No diplomacy in that department.
      Projection all the way.
      Effen dolt.
      Good for anonymous for not being intimidated.

        • The coach is scum – (the blame the victim culture will come back to bite these evil people)…
          what made these ‘young men’ think nothing was wrong with debasing and raping? How would they react were men to treat their mother; sister; aunt; girlfriend this same way?

          “The rape was just an excuse, I think,” said the 27-year-old Hubbard, who is No. 2 on the Big Red’s career rushing list.

          “What else are you going to tell your parents when you come home drunk like that and after a night like that?” said Hubbard, who is one of the team’s 19 coaches. “She had to make up something. Now people are trying to blow up our football program because of it.”

          (the coach) told the principal and school superintendent that the players who posted online photographs and comments about the girl the night of the parties said they did not think they had done anything wrong. Because of that, he said, he had no basis for benching those players.

          • The Penn State football fans are just as crazy. They will defend the Penn State football program come hell or high water. Right now they are pissin’ and moanin’ about the fine imposed on Penn State by the NCAA.

            Jerry Sandusky’s raping the boys is just as disgusting.

            • Disgusting, indeed.

              Hero worship has a place in the lives of us mere mortals but when it comes to “heroes” who commit or condone crimes you can count me out. The really sad part is that the same people who make excuses for Joe Pa and, by extension, Sandusky would have lynched them if they had accepted an offer from a rival school or a professional team.

    • I am a gentle man by nature but sometimes that makes me full of rage that bubbles just below the surface. Cases like this make me tempted to wander the streets with a baseball bat and/or a pillowcase full of grenades. Needless to say; it seems like every male involved in this case, starting with the coach and sheriff, would benefit from a few decades in a very harsh prison.

      • “Mark” is exactly correct.

        If a couple guys or a couple girls mutually decide to beat each other to a pulp? Go for it. They will probably end up being friends once the swelling goes down. But? I am incapable of allowing a one-sided assault to continue and I have stepped into a few situations where I might have been harmed in my efforts to stop said assault. Now that I’m older I just have to be more creative. The most recent incident was on New Year’s Eve.

        The nice couple down the hall got into a alcohol fueled dispute and one of the neighbors called the police. The cops were duty-bound to remove one of the combatants and, based on the overheard conversations, it became obvious that Tyrone was going to jail because he had nowhere else to go. So? I took it upon myself to venture out and tell them that he was welcome to come and chill out on my couch and defuse the situation. Once he and Becca realized that he had a safe place to go the dispute ended. Problem solved. And Tyrone didn’t end up in even more trouble due to the fact that he had some really, really, good weed in his pocket.

        Becca got as night’s peace. Tyrone got a sympathetic ear and somewhere to go and unwind. And I probably won’t even be tempted to buy any weed for quite some time.

  7. Speaking of attractive women…

    Hulu has recently acquired the rights to Star Trek: Enterprise. It’s not even good by Star Trek standards but I have become an ardent fan of Jolene Blaylock. The rest of you dirty old men can look her up.

    • Tony is one of the stupidest, meanest, warm-blooded animals on the planet. In fact, he is on my very short list of people who i would feel compelled to beat some sense into if I were ever unfortunate enough to meet them face to face. I doubt he would actually acquire any sense but I would feel better knowing that I had caused him some pain.

  8. So much for the good guy with a gun to defeat the bad guy with a gun…
    oh, wait perhaps he wasn’t the good guy…oh well, either way the gun didn’t keep him safe (so there Wayne, small penis, LaPierre).

    Cult YouTube gun channel operator found shot to death on rural Georgia road

    Keith Ratliff was found shot to the head but had cache of weapons near him

    …When authorities made the grisly discovery on Thursday, they noticed there were several guns near Ratliff, according to a local radio station report.
    For him not to pull out that gun and try to defend himself, he had to feel comfortable around somebody. Either that or he was ambushed,’ said Ratliff’s heartbroken widow, Amanda.

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