I’m worried about my country. I’m worried because our open and free society has been manipulated by extremists bent on exploiting the worst in us in order to achieve their own very undemocratic, very anti-freedom, and very mentally unstable goals. The First Amendment protection of Free Speech is great and this wouldn’t be America without it, but just because you’re allowed to say something, it doesn’t mean that everyone has to treat what you say as valid, nor does it mean you have any right to demand that people do. And there has been a perversion of our Free Speech rights such that to question anyone’s right to say insane, even traitorous things, brings wrath that is, for reasons that escape me, treated as valid complaints. We have a Right Wing movement in this country so extreme that to call them “Conservative” is to misunderstood what true Conservatism is about. Barry Goldwater, in his acceptance speech as the 1964 Republican presidential nominee, said that “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.” A nice, patriotic sentiment, as patriotic pablum goes, but if we accept it as valid, must we also accept that extremism in the denial of liberty is no virtue? Yet this is exactly where today’s so-called “Conservative” movement has gone.
If you believe in reproductive freedom rights, then this is an area where you and the RW extremists shouldn’t even be in the same library, let alone on the same page of the same book. In 2011, “legislators in 24 states, many elected in the 2010 Republican tide, passed a record 92 laws restricting abortions“, according to the Guttmacher Institute. Some Republican extremists even want to ban contraception, an issue that was decided by the Supreme Court long before Roe v. Wade. If you believe that what you and your lover do as consenting adults in the privacy of your own bedroom/hotel room is your business and none of the government’s, how could you ever support a movement that would vigorously fight to regulate that activity? Is this extremism in the defense of liberty or in the denial of it? Should we really be treating what the proponents of these anti-abortion, anti-contraception laws say as valid?
Another issue sure to invoke Right Wing extremism is that of gun control. Now, I have some serious disagreements with Gun Rights advocates that the purpose of the Second Amendment was to serve as a check against a potentially tyrannical government. I agree that allowing citizens access to their own guns for purposes of community defense and security would have the side effect of helping to keep such a government in check, but I wholeheartedly disagree that this was its primary purpose. But try telling that to the RW extremists who believe that not only was this its primary purpose, but that it was its only purpose. You never hear some of these people mention militias or the “security of a free state,” but they can sure quote the second half of the Second Amendment. And lately, their rhetoric has become so extreme that they are claiming that President Obama is raising a private black army to massacre white Americans. Well, it’s not exactly what they’re saying, but it is one of the many false premises they’re using to denounce what the evil Obama “might” be doing. You know, “If he really is raising a black army to massacre white Americans, that would be a bad thing.”-kind of thing. Or, “If he really does go door-to-door to try to take away people’s guns [something which, in fact, he has NEVER proposed], then he can expect to meet a lot of resistance.” Except none of those things are happening. Not even close. They are grossly twisting and distorting a line out of a 2008 campaign speech. It’s true that Obama said, “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” But as with many of the more extravagant claims quotes from the RW, this quote is taken out of context. According to FactCheck.org, Obama “was talking specifically about expanding AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps and the USA Freedom Corps, which is the volunteer initiative launched by the Bush administration after the attacks of 9/11, and about increasing the number of trained Foreign Service officers who populate U.S. embassies overseas.” (Go to the link to see the full quote in context.) Now if people want to say these things, that’s all well and good. They’re as wrong as one can possibly be, but they do have a Constitutional right to say these nonsensical things. But what they don’t have is a right to expect us to treat them seriously and respectfully and to act upon those unfounded fears as if they have validity. They don’t.
As the late, great Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, from my own state of New York, once famously told a rival, “You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.” The problem we face today is that facts don’t matter in our political discourse. (Even a lack of facts, such as that there is no evidence something happened, doesn’t even stop our elected officials from making outrageous claims that they did happen.) The RW does feel entitled to their own facts because they believe having an opinion is equivalent to having a valid opinion. They feel that not only do you have to respect the fact that they have an opinion (I do), but that you must respect that opinion (I don’t.) Is it any wonder, really, why our country is so divided politically?
This is our daily open thread. Feel free to discuss whatever you wish.
Opinions are sort of like calories. You have to be careful how you consume them because the empty ones can be hazardous to your health.
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I have to wonder why it is that Wingnuttistanians see Obama as being black. Only his father was black, his mother was a white woman born in Kansas, of all places. According to my math, that makes him as much a white man as a black man, and since whites are clearly superior, wouldn’t that mean that his white half is dominant? And if his white half is obviously dominant, and since Amurka is a white Christian country, that means . . . . Well, you know.
Wingnuttistan seems to me to quite literally define the concept of intellectual inferiority, with virtually its entire population clearly intellectually inferior to, near as I can tell, even a housefly. Anyone who cares to disagree should first take a close look at the intellectual “capacities” of some wingnut icons — say, Louie Gohmert, Rand Paul, James Inhofe . . . a good start — and then maybe we can talk!
Wingnuts are totally into the concept of form over function. If it looks or sounds good to them it is all good. The fact that it doesn’t function is immaterial.
She’s just adorable…
The U.S. Air Force is about to start bombing. Guam. With dead mice. Fueled by Tylenol. To save Hawaii. Michael Bay on standby:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/02/22/172695707/dead-mice-are-going-to-be-dropped-on-guam-from-helicopters-really
Oh the humanity…
Brilliant!
Now what do we do about the Burmese python issue in Florida?
Tell the Tea Potty boys that they are commies?
Hell, dead aspirin laced mice in tiny parachutes! What could possibly go wrong!
Not that I like brown snakes, but c’mon, there has to be some other predator that could be introduced. Then, when the snakes are gone, the predator would die out..or…?develop a taste for human flesh?
Either St. Patrick or mongeese. Mongooses?
It’s raining. Fire. On the sun.
http://video.news.com.au/2337237393/Raining-Fire
They believe their opinions are facts and should be respected as such and the news media encourages them by accepting their rhetoric as fact. I heard a journalist state that the news is an hypothesis. If there is an explosion and five people are killed is that a theory that has to be proved??? A meteorite hit Russia is that a theory – the news should be only facts. Commentaries can be hypothesis, but not the news and there lies the problem. The media can’t distinguish fact from fiction so how can the readers. It only encourages people to feel they have a right to their own ‘facts’.
What? The? Fuck?
Looks like a comment meant to apply to Wayne’s post, got indented as a ‘reply’ to the sun flair post instead. I’ve managed to do the same on occasion, no big deal.
In any case, I do agree with the commenter. Well said.
An interesting position.
Like you, I miss the time when editorial opinion was clearly delineated from the news. Sometimes the things which were inconvenient were omitted, but we all expected the facts that were reported were real and true, otherwise no serious person would listen. Now people seem to want to hear their worldview reaffirmed, not learn what really happened. I hope I’m not too late to welcome you here arleenfei, it’s been a long day that saw the lose of a promising hog.
New post below:
Danica was leading as a caution came out on lap 8, from starting 12th. she followed Tony Stewart to the front then they separated. About lap 30 the engine let go after the revs started dropping, and the temps went up.
Go fast. Turn left. Go fast. Turn left. Arrrrgh, the suspense is killing me. 😀
No coolant = detonation, destroyed pistons, cooked valves and guides.
Actually it’s go fast while turning left.
Not a good ending for this race. I’m glad Danica was out of it before this.
Fans Injured at Conclusion of Nationwide Race at Daytona
A big crash brought out a red flag with four laps to go. When the race resumed, there was a big crash on the last lap. One car went airborne into the catch fence, ripping a big gash in it, and leaving its engine and front end inside the fence on the spectator side, causing the injuries.
Here’s a fun video:
http://jalopnik.com/insane-nascar-crash-at-daytona-ends-with-an-engine-near-398864966?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_twitter&utm_source=jalopnik_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
https://twitter.com/miketuffinDC/status/305458050175746048
I noticed that has been happening today since the accident. The videos are being re-uploaded as fast as they are being deleted.
It has been said that the best comedy is that which makes one a bit uncomfortable. I also believe that the best insults are when the person being insulted is too effing stupid to realize it. Keeping those two thoughts in mind; this is just freakin’ funny as Hell. I wish that “real journalists” would occasionally say; “get the fuck outta here!”.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/texas-secessionist-kilgore-hitler-and
On a related note. I wonder if the laminated mail-order documents came from David Barton. It sounds like something he would come up with.
I don’t have a problem with secession. It is like divorce on a national scale. Lincoln fought it at the cost of more American lives than any other war we have fought and the end result was we still have the problem. Let Texas go as a test case. It will be painfully fun to watch.
And it certainly doesn’t help the FACTS when the RWLieMachine has FauxNewz at its garbage disposal, maintaining the right to lie about any and every thing.
Obama on GOP: “I give up.”
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/23/frustrated_obama_on_gop_theres_nothing_that_i_can_do/
Maybe this is as much as O’Malley wants to say in public, but the GOP have their crosshairs on ruining Social Security and Medicare. They also will fight to protect the tax breaks and subsidies for corporations. They still think if they don’t cave, they will be able to get the funding for the military restored at some point, without giving anything up to get it.
Some of these are kind of cool
http://tinybytes.me/misc/15-totally-trippy-photo-illusions
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The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals: the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms does not mean you have the right to carry a concealed weapon in public. Rational, erudite, dispassionate, level-headed, civil and cogent discussion will now begin…
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22648641/federal-court-no-second-amendment-guarantee-concealed-carry
Gun Ruling Leaves Illinois Lawmakers to Grapple With Concealed Carry
Looks like this is heading to the SCOTUSes. Can’t have two circuits issuing contradicting rulings on the Constitution.
Tickling the baby penguin. (no this is not a euphemism)
I think the little guy enjoyed that!
Doctor Who Dalek designer Ray Cusick, Dies After Illness
Ex…term…inate. 😦
Paranoia on parade. One would think that any sane person who glances at the graph would realize what the problem is and want a solution but the freaks are so caught up in strawman arguments that there’s no reasoning with them. With all the calls going out for stricter control of firearms I haven’t seen anyone propose sending officers to seize firearms or take inventories. But? That’s what they are afraid of. They also seem to be simply terrified that they won’t pass stricter scrutiny. I sure would like just one of them to tell us why. Criminal record? Mental instability? Get off on kicking dogs? Or just a plain, old-fashioned, guilty conscience? Such fear must have a basis even if it’s irrational but none of them I’ve run across will answer that simple question; what are you afraid of?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21562050#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa
On a related note: My old friend, Chuck, is buying the bullshit. He’s stocking up “before guns are illegal and only crooks have guns”. His old friend, who is winding down his farm in preparation for retiring to Hawaii, is trading old farm equipment for assault rifles. I tried talking some sense into Chuck but no luck. So? I figure I’ll sell him my old rifle that he’s always admired. I don’t think I’ll go big game hunting again and I’m tired of having it around and could use the extra cash. Since he is none too mobile I figure he could benefit from the long range when he hunts deer from a stand.
Olive is having her puppies! I see one, so far.
http://explore.org/#!/live-cams/player/great-dane-service-puppies-indoor-puppy-room
The first was black, and the second (a boy) looks just like Olive.
The third is a black & white girl!
Did they name her Malia or Sasha?
?? I must be missing something…
Another one born, but I totally missed it. It’s speckly grey, like mama.
Another puppy born, a black girl! She’s smaller than the others.
Are all of these puppies going to be trained service dogs?
That’s what I gather, Ebb. I imagine Great Danes are excellent service dogs.
The puppies so far:
#1 Lydia (girl named by Priscilla) 7:05pm (Black, white on back of neck, front white booties, white chin chest and belly)
#2 Ruckus (boy) 9:30pm (Harlequin, lot of white with black and grey splotches) #3 Emily (girl) 10:33pm (Boston/Mantle, white muzzle, broken white line up over forehead to full wide mantle around neck, 4 white booties, long white tip on tail) #4 Khaki (boy) 11:10pm (Merle, large black splotch upper part of back, small white streak between shoulders, white tipped feet – born just outside the maternity suite after Olive wandered out)
#5 Agatha (girl) 12:23am (Black, white tipped feet, white stripe from chin down belly)
#6 Rachel (girl) 2:30am (Harlequin, lot of white upper half of back, with big black splotch on rump)
#7 Mercedes (girl) 3:12am (Black, wide white ring around nose and down chest and belly, white tipped feet)
#8 just came along!
No that was #9!
#8 Denim (girl) 8:00am (Black, small white spot on back, white triangle over nose, white paws, white stripe down belly)
9 was stillborn but 10 is ok, so far. 9 at 8:42 and 10 at 8:51
State senator pushing for mandatory vagina probes has the most truthful Twitter page EVAR:
http://gawker.com/5986324/arkansas-state-senator-jason-rapert-should-probably-change-his-twitter-background-so-it-doesnt-say-rape?popular=true
The Koch Brothers have fired 100 staffers at Americans for Prosperity and are conducting an audit to try to determine why most of the money they spent on elections last year went straight down the shitter:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/02/koch-brothers-want-know-why-their-money-was-wasted/62331/
Dedicated toThe Koch Bros.
I’m not sure who the other retweet(s) were, but one was Greg Grunberg himself. Actually, it wasn’t that bad a movie