Watering Hole: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 – Wealth Reality

The wealth distribution in this nation is appalling.  This is why it is becoming more difficult to make ends meet.  Are you feeling the pain?

Thom Hartman wrote a book in which one chapter explores “What is Enough”.  He presents different perspectives on being ‘rich’ and being ‘poor’.

While they number fewer than one percent of all humans on the planet, the result of a relentless 5-millenium genocide by our worldwide Younger Culture, there are still people alive on Earth who are members of Older Cultures that predate the Mesopotamian city-states. There are also people whose Older Culture ways have only been so recently taken from them-such as many Native American tribes-that while they may no longer live the Older Culture way, they remember it.

In these Older Cultures, the concept of “more is better” is unknown. They would consider “greed is good” to be the statement of an insane person. One person eating near another who is hungry is an obscene act.

The ‘Older Cultures’ regard wealth not as goods and services.  Instead, their view of wealth is security.

In Older Cultures, the goal of the entire community is to get every person in the community to the “enough point.” Once that is reached and ensured, people are free to pursue their own personal interests and bliss. The shaman explores trance states, the potter makes more elegant pots, the storyteller spins new yarns, and parents play with and teach their children how to live successfully.

Contrast that to the quest by people like Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers.  For them, there is never enough money in their bank accounts.  They don’t own enough ‘things’ so they keep striving for more and more.  If they lost everything today, they would have nothing because money doesn’t buy true friendship.  Who really likes a greedy person?  No one.

Ghandi said, “There is enough for everyone’s needs but not enough for everyone’s greed.”

(cross posted at Pennsylvaniaforchange.wordpress.com)

This is our Open Thread.  So what do you think?  Speak Up!

119 thoughts on “Watering Hole: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 – Wealth Reality

  1. Marx thought capitalism would fail because of its ability to manufacture goods so efficiently; the markets would eventually be flooded with goods whose value is reduced because the market is flooded.

    He didn’t take into account people’s unlimited greed to buy more goodies, number one, and number two, he didn’t count on manufacturers figuring this out and selling stuff designed to break down so that replacements would have to be purchased in short order.

    • One of my favorite stories about planned obsolescence occurred 50 or so years ago when a paring knife manufacturer, attempting to increase sales, expanded beyond the traditional wooden handle model by producing brightly colored plastic handles. When sales actually fell a subsequent investigation revealed that when housewives peeled potatoes (this was over 50 years ago remember) they spread out a newspaper to peel them on, then they would set the knife down while they washed the potatoes and put them in a pot and the pot on the stove. Then they would wrap up the peels and many, many times they missed seeing the wooden handle whose color blended with the potato peels and inadvertently threw out the knife, requiring a new one be purchased!

      • Vance Packard was an astute observer of social status.

        In this (1989) video he discuss “The Ultra Rich – How Much is Too Much”

        His other books were very revealing about our society – his bestsellers –

        Hidden Persuaders (1957), Status Seekers (1959), and Waste Makers (1960) – taught the generation of Americans that came of age in the late 1950s and early 1960s about the dangers posed by advertising, social climbing, and planned obsolescence.

        Several years ago I re-read his books and truly not a great deal seems to have changed since is writings. Still built-in obsolescence; still subliminal advertising that we ‘need’ more and more crap to make/keep us happy…
        A very interesting, intelligent man.

  2. Jay Bookman at the Atlanta Journal Constitution saw Rand Paul’s ‘filibuster’ exactly as I did:

    If Rand Paul is your party’s future, it has no future

    Rand Paul, the junior senator from Kentucky, is drawing attention as a potential Republican candidate for president come 2016, part of a new generation of GOP leadership.

    But ladies and gentlemen, Rand Paul is also a bit of a nut. The deep streak of paranoia that he displayed for almost 13 hours on the Senate floor last week would, in ordinary times, disqualify him as a party leader, let alone a potential president. But sadly, these are not ordinary times.

    Let’s start by admitting that the stunt itself was a nice piece of political stagecraft. The one-man, TV-friendly filibuster gave Paul the opportunity to play Jimmy Stewart, a lone hero standing up in defense of the Constitution. It’s the type of role that Paul covets.

    However, if you’re going to grandstand on the national stage like that, shouldn’t you have something sane to say?

    • Last time it was balanced was during the Clinton administration which was in place and finally getting the job done properly some ten years after the massive Reagan/Bush screw-up. Ryan is taking credit for THAT? What a turd.

    • He’s only able to show that thanks to the raising of rich folks’ taxes – thereby proving Paul Krugman’s and everyone elses point that reveunes have to go up. I thought this turd was flushed last November?

  3. Nothing but Poping on MSNBC today. ABC and CBS have it too. No soap operas today.

    I vaguely remember the first Papal Election in my lifetime, which was in June 1963. My mom was angry that her normal TV was interrupted. I was out of school, and for three days the news divisions of the three networks kept their cameras on that smokestack waiting for the white smoke. This is much more colorful than it was back then.

    • What I don’t get is why they didn’t start this thing sooner. I think if Benedict had died they would have been able to get this all arranged just as, if not more, quickly. He gave them a friggin’ month’s notice! Why wasn’t this arranged to begin the day after he stepped down?

      And why do they have to have humans decide who God wants to be Pope? Why don’t they just get a prognosticating octopus and have it select from a group of photos? It would be just as valid.

    • Old virgin gets promotion. Will live surrounded by more gold than anyone has ever seen in a lifetime; will be required to wear a lacy dress and stupid hat; and believing in God is not required.

      Why is this news!?

  4. Man indicted in El Paso For Allegedly Threatening To Shoot President Obama

    A 20-year-old Pennsylvania man has been indicted by a federal grand jury in El Paso of threatening to shoot President Obama on Inauguration Day.
    William Mose Tucker is charged with threats against the president for allegedly telling someone on Sept. 1, 2012, that he planned to shoot the president. Tucker was arrested in Lawton, Okla., on Jan. 20, the day before the presidential inauguration.

    His attorneys want bail, saying he doesn’t own any guns, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were plenty of ‘donors’ who would help him out. He needs to stay in jail.

  5. Headline on MSN…
    Cardinals locked up until a pope emerges…

    How about a decade or two.
    The world would be infallably better off.

  6. Thom Hartman was talking about this yesterday.
    “October Surprise” and “Argo”

    In a commentary on “Argo” winning the Best Picture Oscar, former Iranian President Abolhassan Bani-Sadr has provided new details about how Ronald Reagan’s 1980 campaign obstructed resolving the Iranian hostage crisis to prevent President Jimmy Carter’s reelection.

    Bani-Sadr’s commentaryfocused mostly on historical inaccuracies in “Argo,” which depicted how six U.S. Embassy staffers made their escape when the embassy in Tehran was overrun by Iranian militants on Nov. 4, 1979, in protest of the U.S. government admitting the deposed – and widely despised – Shah of Iran for medical treatment.

    In the commentary published by the Christian Science Monitor on March 5, Bani-Sadr, now 79 and living outside Paris, said the movie ignored the fact that most government officials favored freeing all the American personnel quickly. He criticized “Argo” for portraying Iranian officials of that time as radical and irrational.


  7. Pleasanton: Two-year-old girl tied up at school for refusing to take nap

    Police have launched a criminal investigation into a Pleasanton preschool after a former employee allegedly tied up a 2-year-old girl for refusing to take her nap, then later showed off photos to other teachers, including the child’s mother.

    A complaint filed March 5 with the Department of Social Services alleges that a former teacher of Centerpointe Christian Preschool bound the child’s wrists and ankles with masking tape, then made her sit on a cot while she took a photograph.
    According to a church statement, nobody knew about the incident until months later, when the employee pulled out her cellphone at a social gathering earlier this month and showed photos of the child to two current staff members. One of the teachers who viewed the photo was the mother of the child in the photograph

    • Titled “A Happy Holiday IS a Merry Christmas,” it seems destined to go the same route as most books with CAPITAL LETTERS in their TITLES for EMPHASIS.

      So if a Happy Holiday IS a Merry Christmas, WTF is the damn problem with “Happy Holidays?”

      Her ghost writer writes like a troll.

    • Excerpt from the article:
      see what is possible when we unite in defense of our faith and ignore the politically correct Scrooges who would rather take Christ out of Christmas.”

      Cool, then it could be ‘mas’. As in No mas!

  8. Jonathan Capehart:
    “When black smoke billowed from the Vatican chimney this afternoon, I couldn’t help but wish that the latest version of “The Path to Prosperity” from Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) was its source. ”

  9. From Maddow Blog:

    “This to us is something that we’re not going to give up on, because we’re not going to give up on destroying the health care system for the American people.”

    A moment of honesty from Lyin’ Paul Ryan.

  10. “Concerned Minnesotan father and husband” Mike Frey testifies against gay marriage before Minnesota state house, takes it upon himself to explain that gay marriage can lead to “ejaculation inside of a colon.”

    That is all.

  11. I think it’s cool that CIA Director Brennan took his oath of office with his hand on a copy of the Constitution. I wish more public officials would do that.

  12. We are doing some new training with Scout and as part of it the teachers want us to come up with a good recall word other than ‘come’. So I am looking for suggestions. We have thought of:

    Serenity Now (too long)
    Shithead (a nod to Steve Martin, but a no go!)

    I suppose no more than two syllables but hey, why make rules?

  13. Damn, I was just informed that today is Tuesday. All day I’ve been thinking it was Wednesday, I must have sprung too far forward Saturday night! 😯

  14. I just decided that I will replace Good Morning with Good Newtown so I will never forgot and to create opportunities for conversations about common sense gun laws!

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