64 thoughts on “THE WATERING HOLE, Thursday, March 28, 2013

  1. This was John on Viewpoint last night. I heard this then, and Nicole Sandler played it again this morning which reminded me to look for it.
    John Fugelsang: Why the New Testament doesn’t condemn gay people

    • Yup, that kind of came up last night…. you see JHC doesn’t say a darn thing about it, and I don’t think Paul does either as he does the most infamous and successful hijacking of a man’s personal life in world history….

      What the man himself does seem to say is that the greatest commandment of all is ‘to love your neighbour as yourself’ …. not ‘love your neighbour (execpt the gay ones and the non-whatever-sect-of-stiff-on-a-stick-worship-i-am ones) as yourself’.

      Its there in the Boy Scout value of kindness in just a few words: ‘treat others as you would have them treat you’. Its so simple.

    • It’s shocking to me that, with certain types of holy rollers, putting “Jesus said” or “the bible says” in front of any possible statement, actually gives that statement the full weight of truth.

      It’s the same with saying, “I’m a Christian.” Apparently, just saying the words means you’re an honest person, who is above reproach no matter what comes out of (or goes into) your mouth, or how much you steal from them.

      No wonder these fuckwits want to keep people stupid. They’re more comfortable with their own kind.

      • I returned from my BSA membership meeting somewhat pleasantly surprised by the discourse, though I am in one of the most-blue counties of a blue state. After getting an email from one of my other dads about ‘the homosexual agenda’…. I had gone ‘loaded for bear’ and ended up saying very little and listening to the discussion – there was perhaps one stand-out comment.

      • Bill0 and Megyn Kelly were discussing gay marriage and Bill0 was trying to sound reasonable while Ms. Kelly was the one to pull out “the Buybull says marriage is one man and one woman”. I guess she was sleeping in Sunday school the day they were learning about Salomon.

  2. This just in from the files of ‘whack-jobs-for-jesus-having more-money-than-sense’…..

    Dude puts up $10,000 that the literal interpretation of Genesis is more factual than any science-based one using evolution.

    “Mastropaolo believes that evolution cannot be proved scientifically. “It turns out that there is nothing in the universe [that] is evolving, everything is devolving, everything is going in the opposite direction,”

    – perhaps some are devolving faster than others there, *DR* Mastermypole….
    – He’s a doctor of kinesiology and taught biomechanics and physiology at *a* California Univeristy? Which one, and on which cereal boxes do they advertise?

    • “A California creationist is offering a $10,000 challenge to anyone who can prove in front of a judge that science contradicts the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis.”

      Actually he’s not. What he’s doing is betting $10,000 that no one can prove science contradicts the Book of Genesis. If you want to take him up on the challenge, you have to put up your own ten grand. And since I have often heard Creationists argue that the Bible does not state how long a “day” is, I don’t think there’s any way to win this challenge. I think it’s a scam to take your ten grand and say, “Nope, you did not prove me wrong.”

      • Ummm . . . what does it matter? Science is real, Genesis is fictionalized fantasy with no basis beyond the imagination of whichever human it was that first penned it.

        I do admit that I find it really weird that there are people who still, this very day, believe the bullshit thesis that the bible is something other than the nonsensical product of ‘faded men’ and their respective imaginations, but I mean, really. All this fantastical ‘allegiance’ to such nonsense, and by people alive (??) today, THIS day . . . baffles the crap right out of me.

      • I think you are right Wayne….depending on the ‘charge’ – its the ‘prove I don’t exist’ argument…

        “Mastropaolo said he would present the argument in favor of a literal interpretation of the creation story once he had found a willing scientist to argue that a non-literal interpretation of Genesis is more scientific. “

  3. according to TP, the SCOTUS just made it impossible for 2 million people to file a class action suit against Comcast. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/28/1786161/why-2-million-comcast-customers-may-never-get-to-air-their-grievances-in-court/

    The solution? 2 million individual lawsuits to which Comcast would then have to file 2 million separate Answers, pay 2 million separate filing fees, etc. It’s likely that many of Comcast’s victims would qualify for fee waivers and get to file for free.

    If Corporations are going to successfully block class action suits, the solution is to file millions of individual suits. Take them to small claims court. Make them fight each and every one without having the benefit of their lawyers represent them in court.

  4. Emily Dickinson ‘splained the Buybull more than 150 yrs ago. She put it in the simplest of terms:

    The Bible is an antique Volume —
    Written by faded men
    At the suggestion of Holy Spectres —
    Subjects — Bethlehem —
    Eden — the ancient Homestead —
    Satan — the Brigadier —
    Judas — the Great Defaulter —
    David — the Troubador —
    Sin — a distinguished Precipice
    Others must resist —
    Boys that “believe” are very lonesome —
    Other Boys are “lost” —
    Had but the Tale a warbling Teller —
    All the Boys would come —
    Orpheus’ Sermon captivated —
    It did not condemn —

    All I have to add to that is ‘Amen.’

  5. Restaurant Chains Cut Estimates for Health-Law Costs

    Restaurant owners have been fierce critics of the health-care overhaul law, fearing that its mandate for employers to offer insurance more broadly will drive up costs and deter hiring.

    Now, some operators say the law may not be that costly after all. They say many employees won’t qualify for coverage, and many of those who do qualify will decline company-offered insurance.

    Wendy’s Co. (WEN) initially estimated the health-care law would increase the cost of operating each of its 5,800 U.S. restaurants by $25,000 a year. But Chief Financial Officer Steve Hare told an investment conference on March 14 that executives have cut the estimate by 80%, to $5,000 a year, primarily because they expect many employees to decline the insurance offering.

    It never ceases to amaze me how business overreacts to regulations. In nearly all cases, they themselves are their own source for the ‘uncertainty’ they claim they want to eliminate.

  6. Speaking of Pathetic Fuckwits….

    Ted Cruz revived his threat Thursday to use “any procedural means necessary” to block gun control legislation from advancing in the Senate.

    “It is saddening to see the President today, once again, try to take advantage of this tragic murder to promote an agenda that will do nothing to stop violent crime, but will undermine the constitutional rights of all law-abiding Americans,” Cruz said in a statement. “I am committed to working with Sens. Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, and Jim Inhofe — and I hope many other colleagues — to use any procedural means necessary to protect those fundamental rights.”

    • Yeah. The Constitutional right to murder children, teachers, nigras, messicans, and anyone else who pisses you off. It’s in the Con … um … yeah. It’s in there. I fergits jess where.

      Go back to Calgary, Ted. Or wherever. But get lost. Now.

  7. Imagine that…

    Robert Zimmerman Jr., the brother of Trayvon Martin killer George Zimmerman, says he’s sorry for a series of racist Tweets about his brother’s case.

    “I made a mistake,” Robert Zimmerman Jr. said during an appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan Live. “It unfortunately may not have helped George.”

  8. House, you hanging about (ok – lounging in the recliner)?
    Damn, C&L commenting on the LNM is wonky. Seems to take forever to post. I’ve done a few, accidental, doubles. The editing ‘delete’ doesn’t work.
    I’ll get it worked out. It is a bit frustrating.

  9. We need to find Lawrence O’Donnell’s Rewrite segment tomorrow. It’s a montage of the Senators and House Reps speaking on the floor of Congress against DOMA, in 1996.

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