Sunday Roast: Fish & Chips and a Doris’ 90 Birthday Ale

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I packed my bags, booked a flight, got a rental car, floored the accelerator and made it here just in time to get my beloved Fish&Chips and Doris’ 90th Birthday Ale.

This is our open thread. All yours.

77 thoughts on “Sunday Roast: Fish & Chips and a Doris’ 90 Birthday Ale

  1. It’s time for our annual benefits enrollment. All prices are going up due to Obamacare requiring that preventative care be covered, according to the letter. Of course, all the stuff they mention was already covered in the firm’s plans and has been for 7 years, so obviously the price increase is Obama’s fault.

  2. Let’s keep this in context. Horrific as it was, and it could have been much worse… Guns kill a lot more people than this did. And single episodes of gun violence kill more people than this did.

    The Senate has no room to talk about consequences for anything until they fix their arcane rules and reaffirm that 54 votes in a body of 100 is a MAJORITY.

    Chuck Schumer: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Should Face Death Penalty

    During a Sunday appearance on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Schumer was asked by host Candy Crowley whether Tsarnaev should face capital punishment if he is found guilty, even though it is banned in the state of Massachusetts.

    “The federal law allows the death penalty,” Schumer said, adding that he wrote that federal law in 1994 while chairing the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime.

    • +1 – that link I just added puts the context on what you say here z..

      And not affording an American citizen his rights under the law…… every single American should be calling in and saying ‘WTF? You going to take away my right to be silent, to a speedy trial and habeas corpus whenever you want? NO f***ing way!’

      • I don’t understand this whole Miranda thing. What purpose does not reading him his rights serve? He grew up here, he likely knows his rights. Even if he does not, he can still elect to remain silent. Why are we sacrificing long held rights for no gain I can fathom?

        • Well, he’s only a freakin’ Muslim after all, and they hate Amurka bigtime, so ain’t no danger fer us white Critchen folks unless we don’t lock ’em up and then put ’em down.

        • It is quite possible to grow up in this country and still be totally ignorant of one’s rights. Trust me on that one. Miranda give some protections to the terminally stupid. That’s all.

          And not reading the Miranda rights works to exclude all evidence obtained from the interrogation, including evidence uncovered as a result of the interrogation. If you’ve already got enough evidence for a conviction, then interrogating is open season.

          The other aspect is when the right to have an attorney present abolutely attaches. I think it’s when the suspect is formally arraigned, but I could be mistaken on that one.

          Then there’s the other issue of unilaterally determining him to be an “enemy combatant” and therefore subjected to indefinite incarceration without charges.

          And, it is not without the realm of possibility that the Government could determine that he somehow renounced his citizenship, which would make him an unlawful alien enemy combatant, eligilbe for Guantanamo.

  3. I’m having a cranky moment. This week we had two tragic events that resulted in loss of life and many injuries. One appears to have been the act of two angry young men and is resulting in a furor to further assault American’s rights and pump up more fear of the possibilities of more terrorism. The second was the result of over two decades of blatant disregard for health and safety regulations that resulted in enough damage to require federal disaster assistance.

    I’m thinking that since we have had the Gulf decimated by a private company that openly violated H&S standards, resulting in billions of dollars of damage that will take years to fix, and a pipeline of toxic goo flooding the streets in Arkansas and now a Texas town blown to bits that maybe we in America need to get refocused on where the real dangers are to our country. There’s a lot more out-of-control greed in the US than there are ‘terrorists’.

  4. I think I might have fish & Chips today cuz I been hearin that the ebil Mooslims are training Chickens to be terrorists.

    • Like many RWNJ Republicans, Peter King has it backwards. You can’t assume a connection to terrorist organizations, or hypothesize one, and then say the Military Commissions Act applies. You have to prove the link first before you deny him his civil rights. Absence of a proof contradicting your theory does not mean your theory is correct.

      • I don’t think you have to be a part of a “terrorist organization” to be determined to be an “enemy combatant” for the purposes of the Military Commissions Act.

        • I thought that was a necessary element. Or is it simply a “presidential finding”, which means nothing more than the president’s signature on a piece of paper stating it is so, regardless of reality?

        • Stupid question. Doesn’t the term enemy combatant mean you have to have a well defined enemy, i.e. Someone you are formally at war with and the person is part of it?

          To me, not reading Miranda to the young man is like having a broken process, however you legally call it, mistrial or so. Why not prosecute him for murder, that’s what he did and give him a standard trial. You can’t lock him away for more than his own lifetime anyway.

          I don’t understand it.

          • If you merely prosecute him for murder, you miss out on all the fun – possibilities of a McCarthy-style witch-hunt for more terrorists. After all, Supreme Court Justice Scalia said the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment doesn’t kick in until after a conviction – until then, anything is fair game.

            Makes me ashamed to be a part of this cuntry at times.

    • Based on what King says, HE could/should be treated as an ‘enemy combatant’ because he’s clearly not opposed to blatant violation of civil law and due process. That makes him a vicious enemy of the US, also a criminal for violating his oath of office to ‘support and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic’ — unless I’m missing something obvious.

  5. Happy 175th!

    Thousands of tired, nerve-shaken, over-civilized people are beginning to find out that going to the mountains is going home; that wildness is a necessity; and that mountain parks and reservations are useful not only as fountains of timber and irrigating rivers, but as fountains of life.
    John Muir

  6. What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Now that a bipartisan blue-ribbon panel has reached the conclusion that President George W. Bush and his top advisers bear “ultimate responsibility” for authorizing torture in violation of domestic and international law, the question becomes what should the American people and their government do.

    The logical answer would seem to be: prosecute Bush and his cronies (or turn them over to an international tribunal if the U.S. legal system can’t do the job). After all, everyone, including President Barack Obama and possibly even Bush himself, would agree with the principle that “no man is above the law.”

    Former President George W. Bush.

    At least that is what they profess in public, but they then apply this principle selectively, proving that they don’t really mean it at all. The real-world standard seems to be: you are above the law if you have the political or economic clout to make prosecution difficult or painful. Then, more flexible rules apply.

    How about we define Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, — alladem — as Enemy Combatants, and then . . . well, you know.

    I wonder if we could get Peter King to speak out on the matter.

    • I mentioned on a previous post that Georges budddy Pervez Musharraf is under arrest.

      There’s a host of people complicit with the Bush administration.
      My personal favorite would be John Yoo for constructing the weasel words to justify the moral decay that his leaders embodied.

    • I say we should impeach them, find them guilty based on this evidence, then bar them from ever holding public office again (which is one of the penalties for conviction.) Otherwise they and their ilk will do it again.

      • Try them in The Hague for their crimes against Humanity. Give them a life sentence, which, I hope, with Cheney’s new heart, is a good, long, time behind bars.

    • “prosecute Bush and his cronies (or turn them over to an international tribunal if the U.S. legal system can’t do the job).”

      And these criminals could be subjected to a “extreme rendition” to a country that will enforce international laws against torture, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

  7. So. The public spin on the death of American journalism is that it was a great week for American journalism.

    http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/media-reassure-themselves-they-didnt-

    And a woman who should be a heck of a lot smarter and more honest to hold the privileged position she holds.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/04/21/noonan-blames-obama-for-congressional-inaction/193706

    It’s no wonder that there are so many stupid and crazy people running around. A great many of them never even see a glimpse of the real world.

  8. From NPR:

    “This week, these awful events have cemented the reality that the media is now everyone, anyone, with a computer or a smart phone, a Twitter account or a Facebook page”

    We’re the media!! But not mainstream.

    • Woody, if you’re going to make decisions based on what’s best for the NY Jets, then, Rex Ryan, Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow?

    • Look on the bright side. You could have the Vikings front office or (shuddering) the Twins. At least the Vikings got draft choices for Percy Harvin but it’s a real shock to realize that they gave up on, arguably, the best slot receiver in the game to compliment the, arguably, best RB in the game. Now, on offense, they have basically no threats other than Adrian Peterson. As for the Twins…

      If I were the GM of another team and my secretary announced I had a call from the Twins I would order a bottle of champagne then run around in very excited circles until I fell down before even answering the phone because I would know that Santa is coming.

  9. A gunshot that goes thru your mouth and out the back of your neck sounds like a botched suicide attempt to me. If only his older brother could show him how to do it correctly.

  10. Moscow’s Wild Dogs Ride Subways To City Center In Search Of Food

    Each morning, like clockwork, they board the subway, off to begin their daily routine amidst the hustle and bustle of the city.

    But these aren’t just any daily commuters. These are stray dogs who live in the outskirts of Moscow Russia and commute on the underground trains to and from the city centre in search of food scraps.

    Then after a hard day scavenging and begging on the streets, they hop back on the train and return to the suburbs where they spend the night…

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