Let’s not beat around the bush. Let’s just admit it right up front before we continue. I am adamantly, totally, unequivocally 100% against the use of capital punishment. If I were the victim of a horrible murder, no matter how gruesome, nor matter how sickening, no matter how inhuman my murder may be (and let’s not get any ideas out there, okay?), I do NOT want my government to execute my killer in my name. I’d want that bastard to spend the rest of his natural life in prison (especially if he were young at the time he killed me) rather than face execution. And if you’re the type who says, “I don’t want my tax dollars to be spent on keeping this kind of scum alive,” then you should be thanking me, because I will personally be saving you a fortune from the great beyond. You see, when someone is sentenced to death, they’re automatically eligible for appeals. Appeals which we tax payers pay for, often from both sides – we pay for the prosecution (the State) to request the defendant stayed sentenced to death, and we pay for the defendant’s counsel to fight against that. If you sentence the guy to life without parole, he doesn’t get a lifetime of appeals that keep him alive ten or fifteen years after he should have been dead. And how much longer is he likely to live in prison after that? This way, you’ve still paid for those first fifteen years in prison, but without having to pay for all those appeals that only delayed the inevitable. And you’re highly unlikely to spend as much money keeping him alive after that than you did for those futile appeals. So you still save money in the long run. And if the guy happens to be a monster like Jeffrey Dahmer, the other prisoners will make sure he gets the kind of punishment the bloodthirsty would like. Money spent on appeals for guys like that is definitely money wasted. Not that I want to see anybody get killed, even in prison. But there are some for whom I would never weep.
There are some who say that the death penalty is a deterrent, but I say it really isn’t. For one thing, take your average person like me, who has no wish to spend any length of time inside a prison cell for anything, let alone murder. The fact that I could go to jail for even a little while for killing someone is more than enough to stop me from actually going through with it one evening rush hour on the highway. I certainly don’t need the threat of having my own life cruelly taken away thrown into the mix. I think that’s true of most people. But there are those who find some kind of justification for killing someone, and it’s hard to believe they don’t know it’s illegal to do so. I mean, are you one of those who thinks it’s unnecessary to read someone their Miranda rights since “everyone knows” they have the right to remain silent from watching TV? Then you should also believe that “everyone knows” you could get the death penalty for killing someone (if you do it in a state that has the death penalty, or do it in connection to the federal government.) But does that stop them? No. Take the state of Texas. (I mean it. Please. Take it.) It’s no secret that they have the death penalty in Texas. It’s no secret either that they use it, a lot. Of all the executions in the United States, about a third of them are in the state of Texas alone. So you’d think that the threat of being executed for killing someone, coupled with the higher probability that they’ll actually do it to you, would stop people in Texas from killing each other. And yet it doesn’t. So apart from being an excessively unnecessary deterrent against most people, the threat of being put to death for killing another person is not a deterrent to the rest of them.
So why do it? Revenge? Really? You want your tax money used to satisfy his need for revenge? What kind of enlightened society is that? In what way is it civilized? Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) famously said, “Capital punishment is society’s way of demonstrating the sanctity of human life.” In other words. “We feel that Life is so sacred that we will kill you to make the point that killing is wrong.” Seriously, that is twisted.
On Thursday, Maryland Gov Martin O’Malley signed into law legislation that would abolish the death penalty in his state. The next day, supporters of killing people to prove that killing people is wrong announced they would launch a petition drive for a ballot initiative on capital punishment to be decided by the people. I can only hope the people of Maryland have the sense not to overturn the new law. Capital punishment does nothing to protect Society. It only brings out the worst in Humanity.
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I am against the 19 year old Boston Bomber getting the death penalty. I’m hoping he will plead guilty in exchange for getting life in prison. That takes away a lot of the publicity, which feeds the purpose of terrorism.
The person who deserves a well publicized trial is the owner of the West Fertilizer facility.
I saw a headline saying that the owner or owners of the building that collapsed in Bangladesh have had their property seized and are probably facing harsh penalties. When was the last time an American CEO faced such penalties?
I’m waiting to see if the prosecution widens to include the government officials that looked the other way and allowed the owner to ignore building codes and engineering limitations. There was no single actor in what caused that building to collapse.
I still haven’t found a story that covered when the building was first put into use.
Just what DON’T need.
NRA’s new president has penchant for bold words – Yahoo! News
I would have gone with batscat crazy instead of “bold”.
That would be more accurate. 🙂
Removing the death penalty takes away a huge portion of the legal food chain.
It also enables people who have been incarcerated unjustly to be exonerated through advances in technology.
There are numerous cases of people having their convictions overturned through DNA testing advancements.
Zealous myopic prosecutors combined with dirty cops needing arrests to move up their own food chain lie on the stand to convince juries to convict innocent people. It’s been proven.
Secondly, I just don’t want something like that on my conscience.
I would like to see Jerry Sandusky placed in general population.
“If you are concerned with child safety, you don’t give children guns. You don’t give 5-year-olds the keys to the car, there’s a whole of stuff you don’t let 5-year-old do if you are concerned about child safety.” — Lawrence O’Donnell
2nd amendment rights trump safety concerns, donchaknow.
Stupid bigot slams smart person’s economic theory, because smart person was gay.
Smart person’s theory still tested and viable; stupid bigot is now getting desired attention for stupid bigotry, and remains a stupid bigot.
He has sinced apologized.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/04/daily-beasts-ferguson-apologizes-for-anti-gay-c/193908
At least it wasn’t one of the standard RW “I’m sorry if my offensiveness so easily offends you”-apologies.
If he “detest[s] all prejudice, sexual or otherwise,” then why would something so fucking prejudiced come out of his mouth?
I guess we’re supposed to believe that he’s not in control of his own brain and pie hole.
But you’re right, it’s a better apology than is normally offered by these creeps.
Today in crazy: Glenn Beck: “God must destroy us.” He can start with you, Glenn.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/religion-society/glenn-beck-claims-god-must-destroy-us-video
If some sort of god actually existed, that might be an issue. But . . . well, the issue is null all the way around.
Glenn Beck’s suicide is long overdue.
I’m continually confused by those who say their deity is so insecure he requires constant praise but is also omnipotent.
Oh, this should be good: a gun “activist” is planning a July 4th march on Washington D.C. in which 1,000 people will be armed with loaded rifles. BONUS: Open carry is prohibited in D.C:
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/03/a_march_on_washington_with_loaded_rifles/
They aren’t Occupiers, so nothing will happen to them.
Today in cuteness:
That is adorable. 🙂
Excellent post, Wayne. I agree 100%.
Thank you.
Law enforcement said they wanted to take the Marathon bomber alive yet unleashed at least one withering volley of gunfire in his direction. Not on the same page or Rambo wannabes?
LaFrenchy goes there:
‘NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre sparked controversy on Saturday when he asked, “How many Bostonians wish they had a gun two weeks ago?” ‘
Probably very few, except Dzhokhar who was unarmed when police captured him.
Imagine how many dead civilians there would have been, had the NRA shitheads joined in.
I don’t know why I continue to be surprised at the stupidity of far too many Americans.
I know this sounds beyond craven but I kinda hope there’s a shootout involving police, criminals and unwitting do-gooders who get nailed by friendly fire.
I wanna hear LaFrenchy’s rationale then.
Collateral damage. Those brave freedom fighters sacrificed their lives for the greater good. Bless them, for they are martyrs to the cause of our lifetime. From my cold, dead fingers!!
*puke*
Exactly.
No one knew who the perpetrators were on the day of the bombings – who were the gun-nuts going to shoot?
Eff the NRA – so damned afraid of their own shadows.
If only they’d shoot each other, but that never seems to happen.
We have laws that prevent tax dollars from being used to pay for abortion because some people believe it is wrong. Yet my tax dollars can be used to kill a person, something I know is wrong. And no, as Wayne stated, it’s not a deterrent, plenty of folks kill each other in Virginia and we give Texas a run for their money in the executing department.
If the death penalty were a deterrent, it would only have to be used once.
The fuckwit wingnuts are having another go at the Obama girls, this time using the ugly mouth of Maria Tantaros, while — again — completely contradicting themselves. 🙄
She’d be horrified if she ever realizes she just endorsed everything the pro-choice movement stands for, but I doubt she’ll figure it out.
My younger daughter was on birth control pills when she was 13 . . . not because she was “active” but because they helped a lot in keeping her complexion in good repair. No more zits, iow.
Frankly, I think that Plan B pill should be available to ANYONE, of ANY AGE who thinks she might be pregnant when she doesn’t want to be pregnant. Better that than to wait two months and then have to go through the abortion routine.
I know, I’m a fucking sinner. Oh well, at least I’m not a stupid wingnut.
My fundy sister had my niece on birth control since she was about 15, to help manage her horrible PMS problems.
She said an extra added bonus was that she didn’t have to worry about her daughter getting pregnant. She has an older son, but I guess she’s not worried about that little putz getting anyone knocked up. 🙄
What is it about the Christer side of the world that is unable to acknowledge realities . . . at any level, of any kind? I mean, really . . . how have “we” (civilized and with mental function) failed???
If God had wanted us to use sunshine for power he never would have invented oil.
Oh, yes, so pretty. We’re having a beautiful sunny day but for some reason the wind has been kicking up. I just watched one gust blow a beautiful golden cloud of pollen from the trees outside. Which would be awesome and beautiful if I didn’t need to breathe. It’s perfect weather for sleeping with the windows open–and waking up with my head completely stuffed. Ah, Spring!
NWG says 18 mph with gusts to 29 mph.
Time for some mega-antihistamine, gummitch!
Gawd, just reading that makes me wheeze. *cough*
My position, to repeal the second amendment, would not change, not a single whit or tidbit. And the celebration would be really big, really grand! 🙂
I’d just like to see the photos of their guns being pried from their cold, dead hands.
What you’ll see…
“This man’s eyes are closed in this picture. His eyelids are tattooed with images of eyes. Since he had it done, he’s never lost a staring contest. He could sleep through a sermon or lecture and no one would ever know, but waking up next to him might be startling. Can you imagine his open casket funeral? There’s got to be other parts of life that would be totally different for someone with this particular body art.”
http://www.neatorama.com/2013/04/26/Tattooed-Eyelids/
I’m guessing that someone kissing him would be freaked. Not that this is likely to be a problem in his case.
One advantage I see (*cough*) is you can drive with your eyes closed.
M’kay.
They should have put it on the first floor, and built the factory above it. They could race on rainy days, unlike Talladega which has been waiting all afternoon for the track dryers to finish drying the asphalt. If the race is postponed, Danica will have to drive over 800 miles tomorrow, if she runs the Nationwide race after the Cup race.
Well, they’re getting the race in today, but Danica got wrecked by her teammate Kyle Larson as he was trying to tandem draft behind her. She only made 19 laps. Larson was the driver of the car that flew into the catch fence back at Daytona where the fans were injured. At least this didn’t matter for points, since her Cup ride is where points count for her.
Perhaps Larson may want to choose a different profession.
Danica won’t give up — good for her!
Some laps later Larson’s left rear tire literally exploded and ripped the entire quarter panel off the car. The other team car driven by Justin Allgaier wrecked at least two cars trying to push people. It seemed like he was around all the wrecks but never got caught up in them.
Nascar had to shorten the race because of darkness, and then they had a wreck just before the race would have ended, and they had to clean up a bunch of cars before they could run the last two laps, and still there was one more wreck as they came to the checkered flag. Restrictor plate racing as usual. 😀
Women are among an array of objects to be used
The Bizarre Christian “Quiverfull” Movement Pushing Women to Procreate for “God’s Army”
Yeah. Like that. Y’Heah?
I’ve heard of this movement, by reading posts by women who have escaped it. It’s pretty horrifying.
Never heard of this until running across news that Romney gave this advice to students graduating from Southern Virginia University — apparently mostly Mormons. I suppose we should be grateful he didn’t demand they stay in the kitchen, barefoot. It makes sense in the context of LDS because they’re all about making lots and lots of baby Mormons.
So, this:
“NRA Convention Speaker Rob Pincus Advises Keeping Gun Safes In Kids’ Bedrooms For Home Defense”
What could possibly go wrong?
What is a ‘quick-access safe’? The top dresser drawer? Bedside table drawer?
Explosions shake Damascus, Syria blames Israel
Israel doesn’t use ‘rockets’, but maybe Tomahawk cruise missiles?
Texas Fertilizer Plant That Exploded Carried Only $1 Million In Liability Coverage
The insurance policy might not even cover the damages caused by the explosion. It all depends on the language in the terms, and whether or not there is a caveat for ‘gross negligence’ or something to that effect.
Shit, I carry that much liability in order to sell farm products in parking lots. Hope the owners have other assets that can cover their shortfall.
The owners and all managers need to be jailed.
Pending their trial for negligent homicide.
That was Diana Rigg on Doctor Who!
And yes she was a nasty piece of work… the Sontaran had all the best lines though…
I slept through it. Am I the only one having trouble with this half of the season? 😦
New Black Sabbath song with some clever lyrics and a title that will no doubt offend many in the bible belt.
God Is Dead? – Black Sabbath
Still a great band!