The Watering Hole, Monday, August 12th, 2013: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves

Twenty-five years ago this month, I went to the Women’s Health Pavilion in Dobbs Ferry, NY, to have my tubes tied.

Wayne and I were planning to get married in October that year, and had decided that, since neither of us felt that we had the temperament to raise children, having my tubes tied was the best route to go. I had been on the Pill off and on for about 10 years, and didn’t want to be exposed to its possibly harmful side effects anymore.

Even back then, as a fully-grown 32-year old adult, at a facility which catered to both happily pregnant women and unhappily pregnant women and teens seeking abortions, the doctors assumed, despite my protestations, that I might change my mind. They insisted that I have the type of tubal ligation which could be undone, even though they admitted that this procedure was more painful than the no-going-back type (they were definitely right about the pain!) That was the first time in my adult life that a decision about my body and reproductive choice was forced upon me by others.

That seems like ages ago now; but it also seems like ages ago (instead of a mere 17 months) that I began writing about the Republican War on Women (see here, here, and here), and in the meantime the suppression of women’s rights by Republicans just keeps getting worse.

This year, the main spotlight has been on Texas, where it took two “Special Sessions” of their legislature to pass a strict anti-abortion bill that couldn’t get passed in their regular legislative session. The only good thing that resulted from this extended knock-down drag-out fight was that it made a political star of State Sen. Wendy Davis, whose tenacious example and amazing filibuster brought thousands of Texans and millions of American women together in support of both Wendy and women’s rights.

Since then, however, more states have jumped on the he-man-woman-haters-club bandwagon. North Carolina’s Republican Governor Pat McCrory, after promising during his campaign that he would not sign any new abortion regulations, went ahead and did so. Then, adding insult to injury, he offered women protesting outside of his mansion a plate of cookies.

After that, Iowa is now contemplating a bill banning what’s called “telemedicine abortion”, where the doctor can prescribe the abortion pill to a woman online rather than in the doctor’s office.

And most recently, despite the legislation’s failure to pass in Georgia’s legislative session, Governor Nathan Deal(R) “vowed to use his executive power to enact it anyway.”

Lastly, getting back to Texas:

On the final day of the second session, state Sen. Eddie Lucio (D) — the only Senate Democrat who supported the recently approved omnibus anti-abortion bill — filed a measure to require women to complete a mandatory adoption certification course before they may seek an abortion. Lucio has suggested he will attempt to keep pushing that measure during the third session.

It’s hard to find a current answer to ‘how many states now have strict anti-abortion laws?”, but according to (from 2010):

Thirty-eight states have laws that prohibit abortions after a specific point in the pregnancy, except in cases where the late-term abortion might save the woman’s life or protect her health. Sixteen states have laws in effect that do not allow for late-term abortions.

And, according to

At least 16 states still have pre-1973 anti-abortion laws on the books even though they are clearly unconstitutional and nullified under Roe v. Wade.”

Will the attack on women’s reproductive rights ever end? When will Republican women wake up and realize just how much Republican men despise them, want to keep women second-class citizens, and will do anything to control their reproductive health and rights? And when will male Democrats grow a collective pair and denounce Republican men as the ignorant, greedy, hate-filled, misogynistic bullies that they are?

This is our daily open thread — What’s on your mind?

86 thoughts on “The Watering Hole, Monday, August 12th, 2013: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves

  1. NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia did an undercover expose, without resorting to ‘O’Keefe-style’ distorting.

    Virginia Crisis Pregnancy Centers Caught Lying About Abortion and Contraception

    The woman working at the center tries to convince the client not to use any kind of contraception whatsoever. She starts slow, claiming that hormonal contraception will make your hair fall out. Then she gets really excited, stating that she’s not interested in judging, but, “First of all, if you’re not married, why are you having sex?” and proceeds to make the following claims:

    “Condoms are naturally porous,” so don’t protect against STIs.
    “Within a marriage, sexual relations are procreative.” Also, you don’t need to use contraception in marriage because you can just avoid sex “two or three days a month” to prevent pregnancy. (In reality, the numbers range from 8 days to 11 days, depending on the source.)
    Taking the birth control pill is like putting a small child on steroids.
    On IUDs: “Sometimes it grows into the tissue of the uterus,” she says, though that’s not a known risk of the IUD. Perforations do happen, but they’re rare and usually happen during insertion.

    • I liked this part:

      Forty of them falsely claimed that abortion causes psychological damage, with one clinic vividly telling the client that “the sound of a vacuum” would bring traumatic flashbacks. (Which is actually a good excuse to get out of housework.)

      Well, I like the joke at the end, not the fact that these fucking bastards are lying their religious asses off.

      Since the “counseling” these CPCs give is so clearly the same lies Christian anti-abortion activists use, would it be possible to put together a legal argument that by funding these CPCs with taxpayer money, the state of Virginia is violating the establishment clause? (I know it may be tough to win.)

  2. I haven’t looked yet, but I can imagine the Hannity question will be “Obama wants to release criminals. Are you and your family safe?” Skirting, of course, the question of prison overcrowding.

    Holder proposes changes in criminal justice system – Yahoo! News

    With the U.S. facing massive overcrowding in its prisons, Attorney General Eric Holder is calling for major changes to the nation’s criminal justice system that would scale back the use of harsh sentences for certain drug-related crimes.

    • Not to worry, the released prisoners will have ankle braceletes, connected to each other, and put to work replacin’ all them illegals pickin’ crops down on the plantations.

  3. Will the attack on women’s reproductive rights ever end?

    When our species evolves into a higher life form. Obviously having opposable thumbs isn’t enough.

    When will Republican women wake up and realize just how much Republican men despise them, want to keep women second-class citizens, and will do anything to control their reproductive health and rights?

    They won’t. It’s genetic.

    And when will male Democratics grow a collective pair and denounce Republican men as the ignorant, greedy, hate-filled, misogynistic bullies that they are?

    They won’t. It’s genetic.

    • More from Judge Scheindlin:

      US Judge Orders NYPD Stop-Frisk Monitor

      A federal judge appointed an independent monitor Monday to oversee changes to the New York Police Department’s contentious policy known as stop and frisk after finding it intentionally discriminates based on race, a significant judicial rebuke for what the mayor and police commissioner have defended as a life-saving, crime-fighting tool.

      City lawyers argued the department does a good job policing itself with an internal affairs bureau, a civilian complaint board and quality assurance divisions.

      • Appears the City lawyers don’t take too kindly to a Judge telling them their self-policing tactics aren’t working.
        Good on Judge Scheindlin for seeing the Stop and Frisk as unconstitutional.

  4. It’s Time to Do Something When a Corporation Like WalMart Won’t Pay a Living Wage: Or Else We All Pay

    Walmart employees are the single largest group of Medicaid recipients in the United States.

    According to pundits on the right, giving fast food workers or any other workers, for that matter, a $7 or $8 bump to their hourly wages would cut so much into the bottom lines of “job-creators” that business owners would have to either pass the cost of a living-wage onto consumers or simply stop hiring new workers altogether.

    But lost among all the noise on the right is one very, very important point: getting tax preferences and limitations on liability to do business in the United States is a privilege, not a right. It’s a privilege that we as a society offer to budding entrepreneurs and big business alike in exchange for goods, services, and jobs.

  5. I couldn’t have said it better:

    I don’t doubt this House could drum up the votes to impeach Obama in ten minutes flat. You could also drum up the votes to repeal half of the amendments to the Constitution, to declare nuclear war on Hawaii, to recognize English as the official language of the mole people, to return to the gold standard but declare that from now on beach sand is interchangeable with gold, to declare arsenic a vegetable, to reinstate slavery and to declare that dragons are real but only people of pure hearts and solidly conservative minds can see them. Farenthold wants to assure America that yes, the entire House of Representatives are exactly the sort of petty dumbasses that Farenthold considers his people, but I promise you: Nobody in the country had any doubt about that. If there’s one thing polls have pretty solidly determined at this point, it’s that the American public has no delusions about just how aggressively incompetent and buffoonish their currently elected House is. 2014 may be the first year in which an actual venereal disease is elected to a seat in the House of Representatives, and America will do that because all involved will agree the venereal disease would be a marked step up. You want to vote to impeach the president? Go for it. It’ll at least make for entertaining television.

    Look, Texas, I was once plenty fond of you but this has to stop, this practice of sending out clouds of interchangeable legislative dumbasses to waft over the rest of America like so much acid rain. You want to run your state like a Tina Turnerless Thunderdome, you go for it, but that crap needs to stop at the border. Don’t make us build a damn fence here.

    Republican congressman: ‘You could probably get the votes in the House’ to impeach the president

    • Is this what Republicans will do every time that a Democrat is President? Where are the jobs that these teabaggers promised when they got elected in 2010?????? Oh, that’s right. It’s all repeal Obamacare and anti-abortion/anti-women legislation all the time.

    • We should haave coverage of today’s wars, like we had coverage of the Vietnam war, so Americans will see the carnage of war and will (hopefully) stop chomping at the bit to go to war every time someone looks at us cross-eyed.

      That video IS disturbing — Americans need our bubble disturbed, graphically. It seems to be the only thing we understand, and sadly, even if every single American saw this video and the carnage of war, they would still warmonger and claim the videos are fake.

      How do I know that? We’ve all seen the footage of the concentration camps after WWII, with bodies being moved into grave by heavy equipment, and still there are those who claim it’s all faked.

      • I recall that Eisenhower made a point to have the photographers from all over come and take as many pictures as they could… he knew that one day people would try to deny it

        “The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they [there] were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations “

        – Dwight D Eisenhower, the last decent Republican president.

        • That denial site was the *first* site to come up when I googled ‘eisenhower buchenwald visit pictures’. the .to internet site comes from… Tonga? Someone is paying money to get that site up that high in the search……

    • Oh yes there really were WMD in Iraq, they were brought by the US in their tanks and helos as armour-piercing depleted uranium shells, which they proceeded to turn into little clouds of carcinogens all over Iraq….

      • So where are all the Xian Fundies? They should be clamoring to adopt the children maimed and debilitated by their Idol Bush’s actions.

    • Depleted Uranium. When I publicly suggested, back in around 2004-5, that Iraqis — from newborn to old folks — would very likely be severely impacted by our DU IDIOCY . . . well, the shitstorm from Wingnuttistan all but blew the shutters off my castle. Understandable when ignorance is taken into account, but when the base attitude is either “who cares?” or “goddamned A-rabs!” . . . well, to me it suggested that America is like an old fruit lying on the ground under the tree. Rotten to the core, and therefore not worth even a phony penny in the marketplace.

      And, it’s been downhill ever since.

  6. why couldn’t they just stay in South America??

    PHOENIX — A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly back home Sunday.

    Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said Saturday that she and her husband “decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us” when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.

    But just weeks into their journey, the Gastonguays hit a series of storms that damaged their small boat, leaving them adrift for weeks, unable to make progress. They were eventually picked up by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile where they are resting in a hotel in the port city of San Antonio.

    Their flights home were arranged by U.S. Embassy officials, Gastonguay said. The U.S. State Department was not immediately available for comment.

  7. Hi, gang!

    I’m at the busiest point of summer and haven’t been spending a whole lot of time at the computer but I had an experience yesterday that should provide a boost to my morale for quite some time to come.

    Yesterday evening was absolutely perfect flying conditions to fly my foam aerobatic plane at the local empty parking lot. During my first flight a young family was walking by and took a seat on the grass behind me to watch. After I landed; their little girl, no more than 6 and very aptly named Angelina, rather shyly approached and started asking very serious and pointed questions.

    She politely asked if she could touch the plane and was amazed at the rough texture of the squishy EPP. After she asked when I was going to fly again I told her that I need to let the motor cool down between flights and, every time I chopped the throttle during subsequent flights, she would ask “is it too hot?” After the second flight I disconnected the motor and let her move the sticks to see how the radio worked and she carefully watched how the servos reacted and moved the surfaces via the pushrods. Then came the big question; “can I fly it”?

    I explained to her that the Yak is too hard to fly for someone who hasn’t flown before and that it takes a long time to learn. She quickly responded with “but I’ve been watching a long time”! She was a little disappointed by my “no” but undeterred in her curiosity. That’s when i told her she could be my co-pilot.

    So, after establishing that she liked watching it go high and tumble down rather than just flying past at low altitude, I let her call my maneuvers. “Up, up, up”! “Tumble down”! That’s when I threw her a curve and told her she needed to tell me whether to “tumble” to the left or the right. After that my instructions were; “up, up, up, tumble right, left, right…”!

    Alas. It started getting dark and all my batteries were depleted so our little tryst came to an end but not before she asked If I was going to fly it again tomorrow and if she could watch. I realize that the attention spans of young children are short but something in her earnest nature makes me think that I sparked an interest that will grow and I had one of the most enjoyable experiences I can remember.

    • TtT, my tweet is an actual pic on Twitter – Wayne gave me the instructions on how to get it to show.
      Yours is just text so that’s, I think, how it shows.

    • Go to the full profile, find the tweet. Click inside the tweet so it expands. Click on ‘details’, then copy the URL. Paste the URL in the comment, below your typing. It will display like Ebb’s. That’s all I know about Twitter.

      Putting it in an Href code does just what you have behind the August 12, 2013 link.

    • You can also click on the time stamp to get the URL. If you wish to post a picture, there are some that don;t post so easily, but if it says “pic.twitter”, you should click on THAT link and copy its URL into the comment.

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