The Watering Hole; Thursday April 24 5014; The Ides of May Plus One

“Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is  capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to think, and this they consider freedom.”
Oswald Spengler in The Decline of the West (1926)

Some shit canNOT be made up, at least not by anyone with an ounce of sanity remaining twixt their ears. I shall, therefore and in the interest of fairness, allow Teh Stupid to speak . . . ummm . . . to not think (in their own words) for themselves. Something like that. Anyway, go grab yourself a cup of __________, drink it, then grab another one (or better yet, maybe a whole bottle of it), sit down, and continue (if you dare).

First up, a few excerpts from a message to the wingnuttistanian masses by Erik Rush. 

TO: Patriots . . .

DATE: May 16 2014 in Washington D.C.

MISSION: Restoration of Constitutional government, rule of law, freedom, liberty “of the people, for the people, by the people” from despotic and tyrannical federal leadership.

Assumptions: Millions of Americans will participate.

American veterans and patriots are energized to end the tyranny, lawlessness, and shredding of the US Constitution.

[. . .]

Phase 1 – Field millions, as many as ten million, patriots who will assemble in a non-violent, physically unarmed (Spiritually/Constitutionally armed), display of unswerving loyalty to the US Constitution and against the incumbent government leadership, in Washington, D.C., with the mission to bring down the existing leadership. Go full-bore, no looking back, steadfast in the mission.

Phase 2 – One million or more of the assembled 10 million must be prepared to stay in D.C. as long as it takes to see Obama, Biden, Reid, McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, and Attorney General Holder removed from office. The senior republican in the US House of Representatives will become Speaker of the House and the US House of Representatives will elect a temporary President and Vice President of the United States. The U.S. Senate will take action to elect a new majority and minority leader. As required, the U.S. Congress will execute appropriate legislation to convene new elections or U.S. States will appoint replacements for positions vacated consistent with established constitutional requirements.

Phase 3 – Those with the principles of a West, Cruz, Lee, DeMint, Paul, Gov Walker, Sessions, Gowdy, Jordan, Issa, will comprise a tribunal and assume positions of authority to convene investigations, recommend appropriate charges against politicians and government employees to the new U.S. Attorney General appointed by the new President.

*All actions in Phase 2 & 3 will be consistent with the U.S. Constitution.

Next, courtesy of Right Wing Watch, Another Far-Right Rally To Overthrow Obama That Will Definitely Work:

[. . .]

There is not much time and the only planning necessary is to select a starting date, which we have done, and then show up in Washington, D.C. on that date, and plan to stay for the duration. The goal is restoring the US Constitution as the law of the land, removing the lawless leadership. Will this be a cake-walk? No, it will be painful, and some people may die because the government will not be non-violent; some of us will end up in a cell, and some may be injured. If that’s what it will take to save our nation, do we have any choice? (highlight added)

[. . .]

Ok, so there’s the plan’s goal, highlighted in red, above. It remains a mystery to me just exactly which laws have been violated by the ‘leadership’, and/or which Constitutional provision(s) they’ve violated — and remember, we’re talking the Obama administration here, not the W. Bush travesty in which all sorts of laws AND Constitutional items were consistently violated, all with, for some weird reason, zero screaming by the radical right. Near as I can tell, Obama’s ONLY violation has been the fact that he’s a black President, and nowhere in the Constitution is that option mentioned. Plus, of course, there’s his implicit assault and spitting upon the racist attitudes held (and worshiped) by Tea Baggers everywhere, and THAT travesty must SURELY be both unconstitutional AND “lawless” as well. Right? Right.

Meanwhile, a Tribunal composed of any three Wingnuts with the principles [???] of a West, Cruz, Lee, DeMint, Paul, Gov Walker, Sessions, Gowdy, Jordan, Issa awaits assignment. Breathlessly, I’m sure.

In any case, the revolution is scheduled to begin on the day after this year’s Ides of May — i.e. May 16 2014 — and will blossom precisely at the moment those ten million patriots descend on Washington, prepared to die for . . . ummm . . . for their right to think only what they are supposed to think [which] they consider freedom . . . or whatever it is that they like to call their deeply embedded and irrational hatred of everything and everyone not like them.

So, my best advice is to beat the rush and stock up on popcorn now; as to how much will be needed . . . well, I’m thinking two bowls should be more than enough. 🙄

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73 thoughts on “The Watering Hole; Thursday April 24 5014; The Ides of May Plus One

  1. I’m watching the rollout of TPM’s new comment system. Some threads don’t have comments, and some threads don’t have an option to comment. There is no sign up or register option, but you can log in if you already have an ID there. The site is loading very slowly too.

  2. Maybe that guy should try reading his pocket copy of the Constitution a little more closely.

    Phase 2 – One million or more of the assembled 10 million must be prepared to stay in D.C. as long as it takes to see Obama, Biden, Reid, McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, and Attorney General Holder removed from office. The senior republican in the US House of Representatives will become Speaker of the House and the US House of Representatives will elect a temporary President and Vice President of the United States. The U.S. Senate will take action to elect a new majority and minority leader. As required, the U.S. Congress will execute appropriate legislation to convene new elections or U.S. States will appoint replacements for positions vacated consistent with established constitutional requirements.

    If the President, Vice President, and Speaker of the House resign or can’t perform their duties, the Senate President Pro Tempore (Sen Pat Leahy) becomes President. The House will vote for a new Speaker; Eric Cantor doesn’t automatically ascend to the position. And the Senate would choose their new leaders, too. Then, President Leahy will nominate someone to be Vice President, who must then be confirmed by both houses.

    If this guy wants to do things Constitutionally, then he should read it.

    • I’m positive there’s not a teabagger alive that’s ever read a word of the Constitution . . . except, of course, for that well-known line “that all men . . . are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” IIRC, the last wingnut to attribute that line to the Constitution was none other than Jim DeMint, one of those ‘principled’ dudes who’s considered to be a candidate for the tribunal.

      I swear, there has never been a political movement anywhere that’s ever been (or ever could be, for that matter) any dumber and more ignorant than our own Wingnuttistanians. And they prove themselves to be just that on damn near an hourly basis.

    • Remembering when Agnew resigned, and Nixon appointed Ford, before Nixon resigned. It would all depend on what sequence the relevant parties left office. It’s highly unlikely all three top officials leave simultaneously. That would take a coup, which would mean all bets are off, regarding the existing constitution.

      • Those idiots would love such a coup, ’cause that’s what’s needed to pertect are freedom.

        Plus, as hero Cliven Bundy recently said about “The Negro” — “I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton . . .?” Maybe after Obama is ousted, they can do what’s right and reinstate black slavery in order to hep him and allathem folks like him out.

        I obviously didn’t live in Germany in the thirties, but I’m beginning to think I can imagine how any German with a functioning brain must have felt as the fascist movement there picked up speed and a head of steam.

  3. If you’re going to cheat, try not to be so bleeding obvious that you are cheating. And I was really hoping a line drive smash back up the middle would straighten out that maroon’s cap. #‎yankwank‬.

  4. ” It remains a mystery to me just exactly which laws have been violated by the ‘leadership’, and/or which Constitutional provision(s) they’ve violated – and remember, we’re talking the Obama administration here,”

    Drone strikes against U.S. citizens abroad. Obama likened killing an American citizen who is thinking about planning an attack on the US to someone taking up a sniper’s position and shooting people.

    If he truely believed that drone strikes against US citizens taking up snipers’ positions was justified, he would have ordered just that in the Bundy standoff, as it appeared that’s just what some of the “militia” were doing. Sure, there would have been collateral damage, but that’s been acceptable in other drone strikes.

    • In re someone “planning an attack on the US”, I’ve never quite figured out what exactly would have been wrong with taking the bad guy down before the attack. It’s ok, after all, to take him down AFTER the attack, after X-number of people have been killed. Timothy McVeigh comes to mind, of course. McVeigh effectively declared war on the US by virtue of his actions, and as somebody once pointed out, “War is hell.”

      Got that, Herr Bundy and Bundyites everywhere?

      • “I’ve never quite figured out what exactly would have been wrong with taking the bad guy down before the attack”

        Since when did we make planning to do something a capital offense (death penalty offense)? We have, though not by rule of law but by executive fiat, first through Bush, now Obama.

        • “We” do it all the time, at least when the potential offender is one of the higher animals as opposed to a human. Idaho is in the process of wiping out its gray wolf population — not because the wolves have a particular plan other than to survive, but because the people in power there hate wolves. In fact, name a predator, any predator, and try count how many have been taken out in advance of them doing anything at all, including even “planning” something.

          Understand that I in no way support even the concept of mass murder based on suspicion or hatred alone, but if there’s a way to rid the world of one who has both threatened and is working toward a terrorist attack that, if carried out, would result in death of innocents anywhere, I say go for it.

          Drones over Bunkerville? Not yet, but keep one available just in case.

  5. *All actions in Phase 2 & 3 will be consistent with the U.S. Constitution.

    There is no way this is possible, since Phase 2 & 3 are blatantly un-Constitutional.

    If they are able to read, which is doubtful, they are unable to comprehend.

  6. Back from our DC holiday. Great time and awesome to see the sites up close and personal. Weather was fantastic – only one tiny sprinkling of rain for the whole week!!!!

    Observations: Washington is full of many many young professionals. Politicians would do well to have a look at words printed on the various memorials and really study them has they were good enough to be placed on memorials but apparently they don’t abide by many of them. Sad to see so many homeless people in your nations capitol. And many of them are veterans. Great to see so many people taking in the city like we did – funny thou, only heard a couple of southern accents!!

    I need to finish my photos has I was gung ho with posting the first three days and then I didn’t keep it up because my feet hurt!

    • The mean-spirited ones will claim the victim was a horrible sinner and the nicer ones will just say “we aren’t supposed to question God’s will”.

        • Well, remember that God did promise no more floods and later nailed a virgin, among other things. God’s not the most honorable SOB in the cosmos. Reminds me more of Tony Soprano than anything else. Hardly worth a worship, that’s for sure.

  7. Another Constitutional Whiz-kid speaks out:

    “This nonsense about the separation of church and state has gotten way, way beyond the bounds of what the Founders of our Constitution thought,” Robertson opined. “We’re under assault by militant Islamists, militant atheists, secularists, those who want to destroy all the fabric of faith in our society. And the great freedoms we have found on our belief in God.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/24/pat-robertson-stop-the-church-state-separation-nonsense-before-atheists-take-over-everything/

  8. Will Bundy be giving us his take on the “Injuns” today?
    He’s ‘schooled’ us on the ‘Negro’ and the ‘Spanish’.

    The man is a parasitic nematode – good for absolutely nothing!

    • Sweet sweet schadenfreude. 🙂

      I’m wondering if they’re better off under a government subsidy and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail and their older women and children are sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do.
      I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were when they were slaves and they was able to their family structure together and the chickens and the garden and the people have something to do?

      So in my mind, are they better off being slaves in that sense or better off being slaves to the United States government in the sense of the subsidy? I’m wondering. The statement was right. I am wondering.

      • The best part is that inSeannity is throwing him under the bus and the rest of FAUX”News” is busy trying to stuff Bundy down the memory hole. The cognitive dissonance of their loyal worshipers is going to be sorely tested.

      • We wonder no more – you are an utter asshole!
        NewsFlash Bundy – the POTUS is Black. Oh, with your (non) thought process he’s ‘under this government subsidy system’.

        Damn Bundy just doesn’t see himself ‘mooching’ off the Government by grazing FREE on OUR land…

        • He’s a patriot…a damn patriot, I tell you! No logic enters into their daily lives. Lack of a thought process doesn’t seem to bother them in the least.

        • Heh, fantastic. Keep talking, Bundy!!

          Interesting that he separates out the subsidies he was getting from the subsidies the “Negro” is getting. Moron.

          • maybe he should sell himself and his family into slavery – he’d be much happier then, wouldn’t he?

  9. Well, lt’s just hope it won’t rain in May. Staging the overthrow of a government in bad weather is bummer.

    I can imagine Darrell Issa on a panel, however. Very much like Freisler of ill-repute.

  10. Glad you’re getting to watch. At least Vettel isn’t winning this year. What about this bribery trial Ecclestone is involved with?

    • No Vettel isn’t winning and, boy, does he hate it!

      I am a bit torn about Ecclestone. He obviously felt quite in his right to pay for getting competition off his back. The typical sense of entitlement of the rich. On the other hand having achieved what he did is no mean feat for a used car salesman from a dirt poor family. He will feel overly protective of that. Still. It was illegal and he admitted it.German courts are usually very lenient. He’ll get off with a hefty fine probably a short sentence with a parole period.

    • No Vettel isn’t winning and, boy, does he hate it😆

      I am a bit torn about Ecclestone. He obviously felt quite in his right to pay for getting competition off his back. The typical sense of entitlement of the rich. On the other hand having achieved what he did is no mean feat for a used car salesman from a dirt poor family. He will feel overly protective of that. Still. It was illegal and he admitted it.German courts are usually very lenient. He’ll get off with a hefty fine probably a short sentence with a parole period.

  11. I haven’t watched Maddow for months, but I caught tonight’s show and she did a good job of fisking Fox News over Cliven Bundy coverage.

    • Hmmmmm. Krauthammer has turned on Bundy. This might be the FAUX”News” ploy. They can send the old boy, with or without a blonde or two to distract the horny old goats, out as a sacrificial lamb while inSeannity and the rest pretend the whole sorry episode never happened. I have a feeling that inSeannity will talk about Bundy about as much as Bill0 talks about Andrea Mackris.

  12. On his radio show today, Hannity did a triple lutz in distancing himself from his hero of yesterday, Cliven Bundy:

    “…{his comments} are beyond repugnant to me. They are beyond despicable to me. They are beyond ignorant to me.”

    I can’t wait to watch the Daily Show tonight.

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