The Watering Hole; Thursday May 8 2014; BENGHAZI !!!

I ran across a headline the other day, an insufficient one that read, Fox Panel Imagines Hillary’s Assassination — And Then Uses It To Attack Her On Benghazi. Now, yes, I do admit it comes close to describing the content to follow, but remains — at least to my eyes — insufficient for one very simple overlook: it did not contain the word STUPID. Or IDIOTIC. Now I grant that it did come close with the words “Fox Panel,” but sometimes close just doesn’t make it.

The basis of the emergent idiocy is reaction to a comment Hillary Clinton made during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee last year when, having been asked whether the attacks were brought on by a protest or for some other reason, her response was, “What difference does it make?”

After Fox News contributor Juan Williams responded by pointing out Republicans were insisting that Benghazi was a scandal to derail Clinton’s presidential ambitions, Jonathan Hoenig of CapitalistPig.com accused Clinton of “an anti-Americanism”, and then added, “The upshot is that you, as in individual, your life doesn’t mean anything.”

Door open, at which point Fox News pundit Wayne Rogers decided to take the argument to an extreme.

“Imagine the following,” he said. “Imagine that Hillary Clinton runs for president, and gets assassinated in the process.”

“And somebody shows up, a congressman, and says, ‘Well, what difference does it make anyway?'” Rogers quipped. “I mean, The New York Times would have that on the front page!”

“They would have a field day,” [host Eric] Bolling agreed.

“That is such a distortion,” Williams objected. “Nobody, I don’t care if you’re a Republican or Democrat, ever said it didn’t make any difference, and Hillary Clinton didn’t say that. Hillary Clinton said, ‘What about the cause?’ People were going on and on about, was it a group of terrorists, was it a group of people who were attacking the embassy?”

“She said, ‘What difference does it make anyway?'” Rogers shouted, waving his finger at Williams. “That’s what she said!”

“We ran out of time, I would love to have a little bit more time with that one,” Bolling said as he concluded the segment.

So. Hillary answers a question in straight forward fashion, wondering simply “What difference does it make” whether the inspiration of the Benghazi attack was this thing or that thing, and months later a collection of bozos on Fox News totally ignore ANY context implicit in the original premise, and run off screaming and pulling their hair out, making complete and total asses of themselves in the process.

Sometimes I wonder if Murdoch, or maybe Ailes, might actually not be Murdoch or Ailes at all, but instead the reincarnate evil spirit of Herr Dr. Joseph Goebbels. Works for me.

Interesting how it’s now become a moment-by-moment process — the notion that the Fox idiotic outgassing of any given moment is definable as the most perfect example of abject stupidity ever witnessed in all of history — until the next moment, when it’s overwhelmed with . . . etc. etc.

Only remaining question, really, is a simple one: is Fox News the pinnacle of human idiocy and stupidity, or is it today’s best example of calculated seditiousness? I say yes, and yes.

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38 thoughts on “The Watering Hole; Thursday May 8 2014; BENGHAZI !!!

    • A very great scientist and human being….. his contribution to our understanding of our world is immense. Happy birthday indeed.

  1. There is no question that from now until November 2016 Hillary Clinton will be attacked by FOX for Benghazi, Monica and Bill’s Arkansas governoship. However, I would truly like to know what really happened in Benghazi. Was it an anti-Muslim video? Was it a US gun-running operation gone bad? Or, was it a political ploy to re-elect Obama? “What difference at this time does it make?” It made a difference to me personally to know that the Vietnam War that killed over 50,000 American kids “was a mistake” according to our then lead warmonger McNamara. It makes a difference to know who killed JFK: a crazed lone gunman or our own government. The REAL truth always makes a difference.

    • At least you seem to sort of understand the context of her remark. But “a political ploy to re-elect Obama”? Oh, please. Why not state the “obvious”, that it was a political ploy to elect Romney? Makes exactly the same non-sense.

      • It wouldn’t. Wouldn’t even help elect an idiot such as Romney. It is, in fact, a totally ridiculous premise to suggest that since Obama was reelected after Benghazi that Obama used Benghazi to get reelected. So, if the Republicans had staged Benghazi does that mean that Romney would have been elected?

        The entire thesis is a study in the “art” of fallacy.

  2. Recent research states that more men suffer from ‘Grumpy Old Man’ syndrome when they hit 70.

    Lightweights. I got there at 50.

    Wait, maybe that means by 70 I’ll be a raging torrent of anger.

    • A sentimental fool – placing the flowers from his mother’s grave and an angel figure next to the wife he’s just murdered…

      • “This parrot is no more. It has ceased to be. It’s expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late parrot. It’s a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If you hadn’t nailed it to the perch, it would be pushing up the daisies. It’s rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-parrot.”

    • Cool!
      I have a collection of old bikes.
      That one probably weighs in at 75 pounds.
      Riding that is getting exercise.

      • When, like me, you ‘weigh in’ at 72 yrs, riding even a 22 yr. old 20 lb road bike “is getting exercise”! Still, it’s a great way to live, and even though I’ve only put on 1300 miles so far this year, there are still 237 days to go before 2015 — and with luck, at least half of them won’t be cold and snowy!

  3. After making the comment that the reason Extreme Conservative governance hasn’t worked in Kansas is because Extreme Conservative governance doesn’t work, I got into an exchange with another RWer who can’t comprehend what he reads

    • LOL Extreme Liberalism hasn’t been even closely tried. Tommy’s version of Extreme Liberalism would probably fall in the right-of-center area.

    • Me, I kinda like ‘extreme liberalism’ in the sense that I figure its basic premise is something like “From each according to his means, to each according to his needs.” IOW, each and every functioning society is obligated to see that even the ‘omegas’ deserve the basics of life, and it’s up to the ‘alphas’ and the ‘betas’ to see to it.

      Hey, it works for wolf packs, why not for human packs? Probably because in wolf packs there are no Republicans.

    • The only way Virginia survived our Republican governor with relatively low unemployment rates is the fact that the federal government pretty much supports the state. Yeah small government, or something!

  4. Monks with mad moves:

    ‘Unconventional promotion for MCA-DAY-an annual tribute to musician & humanitarian, Adam “MCA” Yauch of the Beastie Boys. MCA was a devout Buddhist who fought for Tibetan independence.’

    • Wonder Bread is SO Republican: white, filled with preservatives, tasteless, overpriced, and bad for health. If the GOP ever decided to tell the truth about anything, they could use Wonder Bread as part of a campaign slogan.

    • I’m kind of shocked, I liked Wonder Bread until about 15 years ago, when I noticed that no matter the date it was still stale, much like the Birchers who apparently own it. I’m going to be sad to take my money out of BB&T. It’s been there forever and I’ve always received good service.

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