The Watering Hole Tuesday July 8, 2014 – Environmental News and Food Politics

The below link is some food for thought.

Does your state have a Koch problem?

Open thread.

43 thoughts on “The Watering Hole Tuesday July 8, 2014 – Environmental News and Food Politics

  1. There doesn’t seem to be a way to slow down or even quash the Koch Cooties.

  2. The Koch boys can honestly say: They never bought a politician that wasn’t for sale.
    Political apathy and ambivalence is our own fault. Schools have been neutered and dumbed down to the level of creationism. They don’t teach social responsibility and participation.
    Elections have become a popularity contest of who can spend the most.
    Voter manipulation/gerrymandering.
    Accusations of non existent voter fraud = red herrings

    It’s early and I haven’t had my quart of coffee yet.
    I’m sure there’s plenty for you guys to add to the list.

    • Yes to all of that. The USA shows every sign, exhibits every symptom, of a nation in steep decline, of a country on the verge of if not already engaged in its self-induced death throes. I no longer see even the barest hint of the blue sky “all are created equal” paradise once envisioned. Some things are apparently forever beyond any sort of human reality, a reality where the Koch bros. define maximum human accomplishment.

      The planet will be far far better off after we extinct ourselves.

      • The ‘American Dream’ has become a nightmare from which future generations will wake in a cold sweat.

    • Virginia’s new photo ID to vote went into effect on July 1. That sure doesn’t leave much time to get the word out about the new requirements, or for those who need it to procure ID.

      • The less time they have to get their ID right, the less chance there will be that all them damn darkies and spics will be able to vote for them damn democrat-fascist-nazi-commies.

        • I’m trying to find out what will be required for the free ID, beyond going to the registrar’s office. Our DMV requires a birth certificate for their photo ID and driver’s licenses. If you need a copy of your VA birth certificate, you must send a copy of your photo ID to get it, or have your parent do so for you. This makes it hard for some folks to get ID.

            • I always thought that me standing there was proof I’d been born. Later I realized that the mere presence of a living breathing body doesn’t count for much even if it has white skin. Dark skin? It counts for nada.

            • I am so glad I went to the expense and trouble to readopt son In Virginia and get him a Virginia birth certificate. I can’t imagine trying to get a driver’s license (next year, gulp) with a Guatemalan birth certificate.

  3. I doubt he’ll follow me back, but it doesn’t hurt to try. (Let him try to subpoena me.)

  4. Louisiana (Election) Miscellany

    PPP’s newest Louisiana poll continues to find that Bobby Jindal is among the least popular Governors in the country, and that there is minimal support for him running for President even in his home state. Only 32% of voters approve of the job Jindal is doing to 56% who disapprove. Among Republicans his numbers are relatively tepid (57/33 approval). His numbers with independents pretty closely mirror his overall ones (32/57), and support from Democrats is virtually nonexistent (12/75).

    Even among GOP voters there is little support for a Jindal bid. Just 21% think he should seek the White House to 63% who believe he should sit it out. He finishes just fourth among Republican primary voters at 12%, behind Ted Cruz at 19%, and Jeb Bush and Mike Huckabee at 17%. He leads Rand Paul’s 10%, Chris Christie’s 6%, Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan’s 4%, and Scott Walker’s 3%.

    Jindal also ties for the worst of any of the Republicans when matched with Hillary Clinton, trailing her 48/44. Chris Christie also trails Clinton by 4 at 46/42, with Clinton leading Cruz 46/45, tied with Paul at 46, and trailing Bush and Huckabee each by a point at 46/45.

    Perhaps the worst finding for Jindal in this poll might be that when posed with a hypothetical match up for Governor between Jindal and Edwin Edwards, voters pick Edwards by a 48/43 spread. Edwards isn’t popular, sporting a 39/44 favorability rating, but that puts him in much better standing with voters than Jindal.

    I think too many Duck Dynasty fans actually saw a picture of ol’ Jindal. He’s wunna them brown guys.

      • Actually, I think you just perfectly defined each and every Republican/Teabagger politician alive today, although maybe a busted tire wrench would suffice in the sense that it doesn’t seem fair to so egregiously insult Harbor Freight tools.

  5. No, It’s Not Okay to Publicly Say “STFU” to the Supreme Court if You are a Federal Judge

    I don’t care what federal district court judge Richard Kopf says in private about Supreme Court rulings. I don’t care whether I agree with him on the merits or not of the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby and Wheaton College rulings. But I do care about this:

    A judge who blogs should not say “STFU” to the Supreme Court.

    Bullshit. I’m not a judge, but I support ANYONE with the brass to PUBLICLY tell our current BOGUS Supreme Court to STFU. Now, if only a way could be found to make it happen.

    • Last time I checked it was called The First Amendment and it mentions something about freedom of speech of which, the Supreme Court has upheld in the past.

      I could be wrong but I detect a bit of a double standard here.

  6. How mavericky of Gramps!

    • Para Sailin’ apparently wants to impeach Obama for everything that Bush did, that Obama has been unable to correct thanks to the R-House and the Senate filibuster. Plus, of course and lest we forget, he’s black . . . Muslim . . . Kenyan . . . not a Wingnut.

      The federal government is trillions of dollars in debt; many cities are on the verge of insolvency; our overrun healthcare system, police forces, social services, schools, and our unsustainably generous welfare-state programs are stretched to the max. We average Americans know that. So why has this issue been allowed to be turned upside down with our “leader” creating such unsafe conditions while at the same time obstructing any economic recovery by creating more dependents than he allows producers? His friendly wealthy bipartisan elite, who want cheap foreign labor and can afford for themselves the best “border security” money can buy in their own exclusive communities, do not care that Obama tapped us out.

      President Obama’s rewarding of lawlessness, including his own, is the foundational problem here. It’s not going to get better, and in fact irreparable harm can be done in this lame-duck term as he continues to make up his own laws as he goes along, and, mark my words, will next meddle in the U.S. Court System with appointments that will forever change the basic interpretation of our Constitution’s role in protecting our rights.

      It’s time to impeach; and on behalf of American workers and legal immigrants of all backgrounds, we should vehemently oppose any politician on the left or right who would hesitate in voting for articles of impeachment.

      The many impeachable offenses of Barack Obama can no longer be ignored. If after all this he’s not impeachable, then no one is.

      http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/sarah-palin-impeach-obama-now

  7. Josh Marshall at TPM:

    Back in the late 90s at The American Prospect I edited an article and became interested in the somewhat obscure but high-stakes debate over whether to destroy the last stocks of the smallpox virus, which was finally eradicated in nature in the 1980. The Russians and the US both have remaining stockpiles, under intense technical and security protection at two laboratories, one in each country. So that’s where the debate still remained – except for the vials of smallpox virus in a cardboard box a government scientist found while cleaning out a storage closet near Washington last week.

    • The vials should have been destroyed decades ago – at least these were in a cold room.

      (Global vaccination campaigns finally brought smallpox under control. After it was declared eradicated, all known remaining samples of live virus were stored at a CDC lab in Atlanta and at a Russian lab in Novosibirsk, Siberia)

      Think Cold War. If each super power had the medical weaponry to unleash on the world…

  8. Warm water melting Antarctic ice

    …MARGOT O’NEILL: Warm water melts ice much faster than warm air and the research revealed subsurface warming at twice the rate previously thought. That means the melting of West Antarctic ice shelves could be faster than anticipated in the recent UN climate panel report.

    PAUL SPENCE: They weren’t considering the types of temperature of warming that we’re seeing in our model simulations around coastal Antarctica. Now just the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, but we also get significant warming of up to four degrees Celsius in regions of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet as well.

  9. Kentucky state Sen. Brandon Smith (R), the owner of a mining company called Mohawk Energy, claimed that man-made climate change is scientifically implausible because Mars and Earth share “exactly” the same temperature. Enjoy:

    “As you [Energy & Environment Cabinet official] sit there in your chair with your data, we sit up here in ours with our data and our constituents and stuff behind us. I won’t get into the debate about climate change but I’ll simply point out that I think in academia we all agree that the temperature on Mars is exactly as it is here. Nobody will dispute that. Yet there are no coal mines on Mars. There’s no factories on Mars that I’m aware of.”

    • Sometimes you read something and have no comment beyond WTF, though I suppose in this case one could inquire as to whether there was a religious exemption available to KY citizens that allowed them to consume peyote.

  10. I don’t know if Gomer has already displaced Batscat Bachmann as the craziest creature in Congress but he sure seems to have captured the title for stupidest and most dishonest. Is it really possible that he doesn’t realize “illegals” can’t vote or is he just lying in the hope that anyone so stupid that they listen to him are also stupid enough to believe him? Either way; I would really get a good laugh if some little old lady cock punched him.

    http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/07/08/3457940/gohmert-obama-border-crisis-democrat-voters/

  11. Apparently Joan Rivers walked out on a CNN interview, so after she said something slightly off color for Dave’s tastes, he walked out on her. Actually she was funny.

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