The Watering Hole, Tuesday July 22, 2014 – Special Report

The first person I ever knew who had AIDS was a professor of Special Education at Temple University. He died a few months after being assigned to the facility where I was working. He was too weak to teach in the classroom anymore.This was in 1981, when the epidemic was just being discovered. Here we are, 33 years later and perhaps we have now found a cure. Fingers crossed.

Health: Temple University Researchers Successfully Eliminate HIV Virus In Human Cells

Open thread.


70 thoughts on “The Watering Hole, Tuesday July 22, 2014 – Special Report

  1. Well, here’s hoping. I do recall there was an infant in whom doctors believed they’d eliminated the virus, but it returned after 2 years? So while initial success is encouraging, long term results will be the real determination.

  2. According to Sarah Palin, God wants Obama impeached and God isn’t your parking valet, or something:

    “This president’s forgotten man is we the people, and we the people know that our best days are still ahead because we know that God shed his grace. He’s given us our freedom to do what’s right. God doesn’t drive parked cars. I think he expects us to get up and take action in order to defend these freedoms that are God given. I think it’s an affront to God to let this go on because he gave us these freedoms. We’re not going to let someone, a person, a party take them from us. We’re not going to dethrone God and substitute him with someone who wants to play God.”

    • I think it’s an affront to God to parade your own ignorance in front of others with no humility or willingness to think and learn.
      It’s an affront to God to scream hateful words at buses full of frightened people when you should be offering cool drinks, a nice showers, and a safe place to sleep.
      If our “freedoms” do in fact come from God, you can bet he did not intend to give you the freedom to be an asshole to those different from you.
      The car thing is just weird.

    • I’m guessing that if Palin should ever happen to become aware of the fact that a possible cure for AIDS has been uncovered, she would promptly dismiss it based on the “fact” that, as everyone “knows”, AIDS is God’s revenge on homosexuals, and therefore if a cure should ever appear, it would be little more than yet one more attempt “to dethrone God and substitute him with someone who wants to play God.”

      Ignorance and stupidity clearly know no bounds in 21st century Amurka — as demonstrated on at least an hourly basis by “celebs” such as Palin, Rick Perry, Cruz, Gohmert, . . . et al et al et al et al ad inf.

  3. HIV, like so many other disease doesn’t kill you outright.
    The complications and the pneumonia that ensue slowly grind you down.
    I lived in the Bay Area when it was gaining its critical mass.
    A lot of hatred was expended on something that people didn’t understand.
    Gay mans cancer was a favorite as I recall.
    Then it started really hitting home for a lot folks.
    People getting blood transfusions, dialysis patients and intravenous drug users started showing up and it was no longer so easy for the idiot faction to label people.
    I lost a friend to AIDS who had a kidney transplant that failed and then went on dialysis.
    A tainted blood supply was later traced back to being the culprit.
    What pissed me off the most was how quick people were to label and hate something that they had zero understanding of.
    The story of Gaeton Dugas is also a media fiction.
    He was not patient zero.

    Also, Freddie Mercury ROCKED!! and he was taken by it.

    • What continues to deeply puzzle me is a simple question: How is it that a people who endured and survived the atrocity of mass and irrational hatred and murder of their own kind a mere 70-80 years ago find it so incredibly simple to, today, engage in the mass hatred and murder of others on this very day?

      Where the hell is this “God” so many talk about, even worship? You know, the God who supposedly gives a shit . . . about at least SOMETHING? I mean really?

  4. Appeals Court Deals Major Blow To Obamacare

    A federal appeals court dealt a huge blow to Obamacare on Tuesday, banning
    the federal exchange from providing subsidies to residents of the 36 states it serves.

    A divided three-judge panel on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the text of the Affordable Care Act restricts the provision of premium tax credits to state-run exchanges. The two Republican appointees on the panel ruled against Obamacare while the one Democratic appointee ruled for the law.


    The Obama administration may seek a re-vote by the full active bench — an en banc ruling — which could potentially reverse the result. An en banc vote would be cast by the three judges who heard the case as well as 10 judges on the active bench. Such a vote may be friendlier to Obamacare as it would feature 8 Democratic appointees and 5 Republican appointees

    This could have an unexpected silver lining. People have had cheap health insurance in these Republican-run states, and now it’s taken away, because their governor is a prick? In just over three months, they can vote their interests and dump as many Republicans from government as possible.

    • Appeals Courts Disagree Over Obamacare

      Obamacare got taken for a roller-coaster ride on Tuesday when two different appeals courts took completely different takes on the latest challenges to the law.

      In a potentially lethal blow, a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C. ruled that the federal government may not subsidize health insurance plans for people in 34 states that decided not to set up their own marketplaces under the law.

      But the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond took the opposite point of view, saying the subsidies are legal.

      An interesting take from a Discussionist poster.

      Having read HALBIG v. BURWELL

      , I can say That the majority decision is highly dishonest, straining to reach a preferred decision, and at odds with the facts and the law.


      One clue… the subsidies are paid by the federal government to individuals and are allowable only (according to justice Roberts) under the federal governments TAXING authority. So the argument becomes that Congress meant to give state legislatures the power to determine to amount of people’s federal tax refunds.

      Shorter version of that: If the Supreme Court decides subsidies don’t apply to federal exchanges then it will be saying that it read the law wrong when deciding on the mandate.


    Adding to yesterday’s somewhat chilling assessment of Putin and that he is now trapped by the ‘alternative reality’ narrative he himself has had to create to justify his actions in Crimea and East Ukraine.

    And there are reports on Grasswire and on Interpreter and by Ukraine MoD that Russia has sent more Grad rocket launchers into East Ukraine today. There seems to be no ‘exit ramp’ for Putin and that, sports fans, spells trouble.

    Elsewhere, a British reporter supposedly ‘freelancing for Russia Today’ is finding that the neo-Nazi hell that has descended upon Sloviansk, until recently part of the Donetsk People’s Republic, isn’t quite providing much in the way of usuable copy:

    Though if he replaced ‘Ukrainian Army’ with ‘Obamacare’ – I bet Hannity would pick him up?

  6. “I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul.” – George W. Bush on Vladimir Putin

    How did that turn out?

    • From a man known to be devious, untrustworthy, incapable of holding any kind of multisyllabic dialogue ….. how does it go again..?

      “Fool me once, shame on you…. fool me twice…. er, heh…. can’t get fooled again, see?”

  7. Some photographic fun lately, with infrared.

    There’s a place in Minnesota referred to as “That Barn.” Ask most photographers where “That Barn” is and they’ll know. It’s sinking into a nearby pond, and is in a picturesque little cove.

    It’s been photographed so much, that it’s tough to do anything different. So this was at least my attempt at something different. “That Barn” (outside of Zimmerman, MN) done in Infrared.


    The link won’t bite you. 🙂

    • … they had been told to cover the faces of both male and female mannequins, apparently in line with strict interpretations of Shariah law that forbid statues or artwork depicting the human form.

      hmm that’s the first I’ve read/heard about males (person a/o mannequin) being told to ‘cover up’

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