The Watering Hole; Friday October 24 2014; On the Other Hand . . .

The other day I accidentally ran across this pair of tidbits that represent . . . not sure how to say this . . . that represent either (a) the pinnacles of American stupidity or (b) the bottom of the bottomless pit of American idiocy? (Word choice is open for discussion).

First off, this gem:

Author says South should form new nation without gays and Hispanics called ‘Reagan’

Conservative columnist and former aide to President Ronald Reagan called on southern states to secede and form an ultraconservative new nation named after his old boss. Douglas MacKinnon, a former speechwriter for Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush, appeared Tuesday on The Janet Mefford Show to promote his new book, “The Secessionist States of America: The Blueprint for Creating a Traditional Values Country … Now.”

He told the religious conservative host that southern states – starting with Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina – should leave the United States so they can implement a right-wing Christian system of government.

MacKinnon envisions other states joining, but he hopes to leave out Texas because “there have been a number of incursions into Texas and other places from some of the folks in Mexico.”

“A growing number of our leaders seem determined to erase our borders,” he wrote in a recent syndicated column promoting his book, “do away with the rule-of-law, expand the nanny state into a theology, bankrupt or punish American companies in the name of fighting climate change, do away with the 2nd Amendment, censor or demonize the history of western civilization and replace it with multiculturalism, give every kid a trophy and turn them into wimps, continue to support the completely unfunded public-employee pensions which are destroying the financial solvency of cities, counties, and states across our nation, add billions every day to our $17 trillion in debt, destroy our health-care system to substitute socialized medicine, vilify fossil fuels, and attack all faith in God with a particular and unhinged bias against the Christian faith.”

[. . .]

He said the new country should be called Reagan, at least until voters there could decide on a permanent name.

MacKinnon did not specifically address . . . whether slavery would be legal in the new secessionist government, nor did he describe the status of black people living in Reagan.

But he made clear that LGBT people would be second-class citizens – or worse – saying that advances in their rights as citizens was a major factor in his call to break up the United States. [Etc.]

What a great idea! What could possibly go wrong?

Next up, a message massage from Louie Gohmert, one that presumably defines the fate of the part of the country that chooses not to become part of the nation called ‘Reagan.’

Gohmert: Gay Massage Will Make Our Soldiers Vulnerable To Terrorism

“I’ve had people say, ‘Hey, you know, there’s nothing wrong with gays in the military. Look at the Greeks.’ Well, you know, they did have people come along who they loved that was the same sex and would give them massages before they went into battle. But you know what, it’s a different kind of fighting, it’s a different kind of war and if you’re sitting around getting massages all day ready to go into a big, planned battle, then you’re not going to last very long. It’s guerrilla fighting.

“You are going to be ultimately vulnerable to terrorism and if that’s what you start doing in the military like the Greeks did … as people have said, ‘Louie, you have got to understand, you don’t even know your history.’ Oh yes I do. I know exactly. It’s not a good idea.”

I was going to add a snarky comment right here, but I can’t remember what it was. I guess I’ve been dumb-founded, or something.

Oh well, on the other hand there’s another world out there. In fact, I’m thinking of seceding from this one and moving on to that better place — ‘Out There.’ Like for example (trying to sound secessionist):

Colorado Front Range, Indian Summer

Colorado Front Range, Indian Summer

And finally, a massage message from some ‘out there’ residents:

Geese at Beckwith 621

There. ‘Nuff said. No need for more words.


65 thoughts on “The Watering Hole; Friday October 24 2014; On the Other Hand . . .

    • Shouldn’t these officers be fired for potentially contaminating the public by virtue of their disposal methods? BTW, I think I can make out the number of the police car….Should be easy to identify these dufi.
      Ah! and I spy a roll of police crime scene tape on the trunk! Perhaps they should wrap some of that very tightly around their heads…

    • Aha! Mr. Muzin nails the definitive link between Health Care Reform and Ebola! Voila! Or is that a link between the two synapses Mr. Muzin has left in his brain after overexposure to Faux Nooze.

  1. The new nation of ‘Reagan’ would quickly plummet into fifth world status, disease ridden, as the aversion to spending money on education, along with their aversion to all things scientific in favor of religious belief would have devastating results on mortality. Within three generations, we’d see a population reduction of 75%.
    Needless to say, we won’t be allowing any of these morans to get a visa to visit the United States of America. We may be faced with having the national guard protect our borders from these inbred hicks.

  2. Louisiana mayor who promised never to ‘embarrass this community’ arrested on child porn charges

    …Dereliction of duty became the least of Longanecker, Jr.’s problem on Thursday, however, when investigators with a multiagency child pornography task force raided his home and discovered 40 videos depicting children between the ages of 3 and 14 engaged in sexual activities.

    Longanecker, Jr. attempted to destroy the material while the investigators were collecting it, the Louisiana Attorney General’s Office said, so he will also be charged with at least one count of obstruction of justice.

    He faces between five and 20 years in prison, as well as a fine of $50,000, for each count if convicted.

    • “Longanecker, Jr. attempted to destroy the material while the investigators were collecting it…”

      The “I was holding it for a buddy of mine” defense just flew out the window. Oops.

  3. And, speaking of Gouie Lohmert, it seems that he has some very graphical imagery going on between his ears regarding gay massages…hmmmmm…Makes one wonder….

  4. This Sunday – parliamentary elections in Ukraine. Contrary to Russian propaganda about the ‘Nazi junta’ running Ukraine, the Rada contains the exact same members as it did on February 20th, the day 100 people were shot dead in cold blood in the Maidan by members of President Yanukovych’s Berkut police, or perhaps by Russian FSB agents as some have speculated.

    With the war continuing despite a ‘cease-fire’, Russian soldiers continue to be found in Ukraine – even being interviewed by Financial Times journalists “you did not see us here” – says one…. and Russia continues to deny oversight of the border to continue to ship weapons and special forces in to keep the conflict moving along….. what hope is there for Ukraine to stabilize and for the economy to do anything but spiral down?

    My friend is still pursuing her dream now of being with her Corsican in Aix-en-Provence, but it is hard for Ukrainians to get the Schenzen Visa quickly…. I will ask her about the election today and see what she says.

    • “contains the exact same members as”

      I should add that on Sunday, the election should change that… meaning, we will find out just what the politics are now after 1 year of civil unrest and war. And no the election will not happen in Crimea and the Russian-occupied areas…. although Russia has agreed to recognize the election…. hmm

      It’s winter soon and the schools are already doing 6-day weeks so that they can close for 2 months, because they cannot afford to heat the buildings…..that was last I heard from my friend.

  5. IRS Notches Legal Victory In Tea Party Cases

    The IRS may have inadvertently figured out how to win its legal battles against aggrieved tea party groups: Give them what they wanted in the first place — tax-exempt status.

    That was a major reason a Republican-appointed federal judge on Thursday threw out two lawsuits brought by more than 40 conservative groups seeking remedies for being singled out in the tea party targeting scandal, a victory for the IRS.

    Judge Reggie Walton of the U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia dismissed almost all counts brought against the tax-collecting agency in two cases, ruling that both were essentially moot now that the IRS granted the groups their tax-exempt status that had been held up for years.

    Section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code defines tax-exempt social welfare groups like this:

    Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.

    In 1959, under the administration of Dwight Eisenhower, the meaning of this section was changed dramatically when the IRS decided the word “exclusively” could, in effect, be read as “primarily.”

    If the Obama Administration had any real balls, they would have redefined the statute back to its original intent.
    The IRS only ‘targeted’ teabagger groups because they all sprang up since 2009. Most of the buzzword titled lefty groups were already vetted by then.

    • I think a far simpler solution would be to disallow what started the problem in the first place, the Citizens United fiasco. Mandate public financing of political campaigns, and disallow ANY private contribution greater than, say, $500 per candidate per election. Get rid of the current money-based insanity; politics should be based on definable merit, not on purchased lies.

      I know, I live in a dream world — one where something other than money has meaning.

  6. That fourth paragraph (starts “A growing number of our leaders…”) is nothing but Gish Galloping, straw man arguments and dog whistles. That man is really unhappy with the way life turned out for him, and he wants to punish the rest of us for it.

    • Interestingly enough, I’m in favor of much of what he fears might happen. I say fight climate change, get rid of fossil fuels, yes to socialized medicine (universal single payer), repeal the ridiculous second amendment, teach accurate history even if it doesn’t flatter Amurka, reliable public (and private) pensions, a fair minimum wage, no tax breaks for corporations, demand that religion be a PRIVATE thing that is NOT imposable on anyone else, . . . . did I miss anything?

  7. While Gomer is busy fantasizing about the Spartans he neglects to mention a much closer example. The Israeli Defense Force has allowed openly gay service members for decades and they deal with guerrilla warfare 24/7.

    • Which media whore in that family is the biggest media whore, that’s the real issue that curious minds would like to not hear about.

  8. Hi All. A little while ago I was told to book a holiday soon or don’t get one until feb. We are migrating some software, that I made over the last 17 years, to ERP software that our new owners use. So on fairly short notice we decided to go to our favorite place. And here we are in NYC once again! Going to the City Winery tonight. God I love this mass of humanity.

  9. The public must feel much safer having CHP swapping photos…

    Warrant: CHP officer says stealing nude photos from female arrestees ‘game’ for cops

    The California Highway Patrol officer accused of stealing nude photos from a DUI suspect’s phone told investigators that he and his fellow officers have been trading such images for years, in a practice that stretches from its Los Angeles office to his own Dublin station, according to court documents obtained by this newspaper Friday

    • Yeah, I knew who Mark Felt was! Everything else is a blur, something about Ebola, shootings and an upcoming election in 10 days/2 years. Was there anything about important matters, like Honey Boo Boo being canceled?

      • I never expect a political news program to have on an expert to tell me, in detail, the horrid symptoms of Ebola, while I’m eating breakfast, but now I do.

        • Fortunately, the spokesman wasn’t Darryl Issa. He was on Rachel last night and spoke of the threat, coming from Guyana (which is in S. America) of E. boli, which you can catch on a bus. And it’s all Obama’s fault, of course. Which a congressional committee will be looking at.

  10. I sorta like the idea of the Republic of Reagan. It would be like Saudi Arabia without oil or sand or camels with Disney World as it’s tourist Mecca and best of all, no more federal tax dollar drain.

    • I like it too. Means I won’t have to secede to get away from the idiots. It is, in fact, rather blissful to imagine living in a land peopled only with bright progressive folks (and wildlife too, which is also both bright and progressive) and be separated from the land of Reagan inhabitants by a 200 ft high electrified border fence with NO gates anywhere in it!

      • I still like the idea of a moat. Stock it with all kinds of things that birds and animals like to eat and make sure there are alligators. Lots and lots of alligators.

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