The Watering Hole, Tuesday November 25, 2014 Environmental News and Food Politics – Special Thanksgiving Edition

Ever fret over your Thanksgiving table presentation? Here’s a little flea market chic to lift the spirits of you and your guests.


Happy Thanksgiving

70 thoughts on “The Watering Hole, Tuesday November 25, 2014 Environmental News and Food Politics – Special Thanksgiving Edition

    • My plant of the week is: The pineapple.
      After years of struggling with bugs, moles, poor soil and Sandhill Cranes.
      Yes, Sandhill Cranes peck at my pineapples like an enemy in the mirror.
      I have finally managed to grow a pineapple cultivar that is sweeter than anything available in the store.
      A bit of trivia.
      If you are seeing pineapples for sale in the supermarket for a low price, it’s because they have seeds.
      Pineapples grown in Central America are smack in the middle of the major flyway of the hummingbird. Hummingbirds migrate long distances.
      The hummingbird is the pollinator of the pineapple plant, not the honey bee.
      This brings us to Hawaii.
      Hawaii has no hummingbirds so, any pineapple from the islands will not have annoying little seeds throughout the fruit.
      The pineapple is actually a syncarp. When it is in its formative stages the flowers are brilliant and very colorful.
      Sadly, most people are only familiar with the fruit they buy in the store.

      • Hurray for the hummingbirds!
        That is very interesting. As you point out no Hummingbirds in Hawaii.
        Now I know to look from whence that delicious fruit was born!

        • The pineapple is a bromeliad.
          It is one of the few bromeliads with a root structure.
          Most members of the bromeliad family are often referred to as “air plants”.
          They live way up in the trees or grow from host plants in the south like Spanish moss which is of the bromeliad family.
          It is believed that the original pineapples evolved in South America and were transported and cultivated by early agrarian civilizations in South America.
          The pineapples that you buy in the store are there for one reason only.
          They can be transported well.
          Rare cultivars are being lost due to low yield, poor shelf life, poor shipping qualities, or long growing periods.
          The “Gold” pineapple is what you will find in the store these days.
          Dole and Del Monte have done just as much good as they have done harm in engineering a pineapple that has a high brix content and low acidity.
          This narrows the gene pool and causes people like me to grow rare cultivars that are uncommon.

  1. I’ll leave these here….

  2. According to my considered (and admittedly amateur) opinion, I’m guessing that from the beginning, this prosecutor’s principle duty was to make sure the Grand Jury did NOT indict Darren Wilson. I believe what we had here was a cleverly manipulated presentation that was to result in a Michael Brown guilty verdict, rather than an unbiased examination of all the facts.

    It’s really hard to imagine why an unarmed black kid with a handful of apparently stolen cigarillos was shot TEN TIMES simply because the police officer felt threatened. Bullshit.

    Michael Brown’s “crime” was far more simple than that. It was the same “crime” as Emmett Till’s was nearly sixty years ago; it was the same as Obama’s “crime” in re immigration reform just last week.

    Michael Brown was black.

    • Even my backwards little corner of rural Virginia brought in an outside prosecutor when a town cop shot an unarmed citizen. That should have been done in this case, though I concede that Mr. Brown would still have been black.

  3. I had Fox News on, just to see how fair and balanced they are today. Mark Fuhrman (yeah, the O.J. asshole) just proclaimed that Mike Brown was trying to kill the officer. LOLWUT?

    Gosh, I hope Fox gets a relevant comment from Kato Kaelin too.

    • Brown was shown by the prosecutor to be carrying a deadly weapon; he had in his hand a bunch of stolen cigarillos. With that factoid on the table I can certainly understand Wilson’s terror, his fear. I mean, suppose Brown offered one to Wilson. Think of it. The evil of tobacco. As we all know, it can kill you.

      Hoping that little detail will help folks understand Fox News’ “Fair and Balanced” thingee.

  4. The Washington Post’s Ruth Marcus opines:

    “So now you have the President with two big asks of the Senate. Two critical positions, having just royally annoyed them . . . with his immigration move. How does that all go together?”

    Imagine it. Our tyrannical would-be dictator Barack Obama is now pressuring the Senate to carry forward two of their constitutional duties AT THE SAME TIME!! He wants them to advise/consent on TWO IMPORTANT NOMINEES at the SAME TIME, and right after he’s pissed them off by doing himself what the House has refused to even consider. That right there is obviously proof positive that he’s nothing more than a damnable TYRANT! How dare he!

    Well, at least we know what the slimeball is up to. More or less.

  5. Freddie deBoer:

    “This outcome, and so many like it, are the result of a system functioning the way it is intended to function. Racism is baked right into the foundation…

    Every one of those grand jurors might have hearts of purest gold. The outcome was predetermined precisely because the outcome did not rely on the individual character of the jurors. We have police aggression against black people because the white moneyed classes of this country have demanded aggressive policing and the moneyed control our policy. We have police aggression because the War on Drugs provokes it and we still have a War on Drugs because the War on Drugs puts vast amounts of tax dollars in the hands of police departments and a voracious prison industrial complex. We have police aggression against black people because centuries of gerrymandering and political manipulation have been undertaken with the explicit purpose of empowering some people and disenfranchising others. None of that can be solved through having pure hearts and pure minds. Racism is not a problem of mind. Racism cannot be combated by individuals not being racist. A pure heart makes no difference. In response to systemic injustice, you’ve got to change the systems themselves. It’s the only thing that will ever work.”

  6. If your concerns about violence are limited to property damage and looting, and you have never shed two tears for the history of institutional violence, murder, colonialism, segregation, lynching, genocide and police brutality against peoples of color, your words mean nothing; they mean less than nothing. Your outrage, in such a case is grotesque, an inversion of morality so putrescent as to call into question your capacity for real feeling at all. So long as violence from below is condemned while violence from above is ignored, you can bet that the former will continue–and however unfortunate that may be, it is surely predictable. If you’d like the former to cease, put an end to the latter, and then I promise you, it will. (Emphasis mine)

    ~Tim Wise

  7. 29 police killings in Albuquerque in the past 2 1/2 years. NO convictions, just paid vacations while the cases are investigated. One “law officer” has been involved in five such shootings.

    And how about this cute little ditty where they assassinate a mentally ill homeless man for “illegal camping”…..and yes, he was unarmed, as they all usually are.

    ***graphic violence***

  8. Just got my hospital bill for knee replacement surgery (9/8). This is exclusive of the surgeon’s bill which I believe is settled. My balance is close to $900. Total bills was over $28,000 including $12K for the OR and over $9K for parts.They charged $500 for physical therapy which consisted of 10-15 minutes of me navigating on crutches on a level surface and up and down three steps. WTF?

    • Last I heard, my tab for a 6 day stay in September was around $33,000 and I think I owe about $800. Guess that’s not so much, actually, given that I had salmon for supper at least four times.

      Now if only I can beat this sciatica that’s kept me home for a week, I’ll . . .

      Hmmm. Don’t know what exactly I’ll be up to. Maybe I’ll see what it’s like to step outside again.

      • The knee is getting better and better; I can actually walk normally (more or less) for the first time in years. It’s still not happy when I sit for any length of time and everything takes a little time to get moving when I get out of bed. But this is all stiffness and soreness in soft tissue that is healing or relearning and the knee itself simply doesn’t hurt. It pops, though, so I’m working on the quads.

    • Pretty much matches what I paid last year. Great to see you here and I promise that you will continue to feel better and in another 3 months you’ll wonder why you didn’t do it sooner! Never quite as good as original equipment though.

  9. Here’s a really good reason why I’m happy that I’m an old phart and not someone with lots of years left – – –

    Congress Poised To Eliminate Key Tax Breaks For Middle Class, Provide Permanent Tax Breaks For Corporations

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has reached a compromise with House Republicans on a package of tax breaks that would permanently extend relief for big multinational corporations without providing breaks for middle or lower-income families, individuals with knowledge of the deal tell ThinkProgress.

    Under the terms of the $444 billion agreement, lawmakers would phase out all tax breaks for clean energy and wind energy but would maintain fossil fuel subsidies. Expanded eligibility for the Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit would also end in 2017, even though the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities estimates that allowing the provisions to expire would push “16 million people in low-income working families, including 8 million children into — or deeper into — poverty.” The proposal would help students pay for college by making permanent the American Permanent Opportunity Tax Credit, a Democratic priority.

    Meanwhile, two-thirds of the package would make permanent tax provisions that are intended to help businesses, including a research and development credit, small business expensing, and a reduction in the S-Corp recognition period for built-in gains tax.

    The concept of Worthless Idiot sprawls all over the place, including prolly every single spot in the country where there happens to be an elected “politicus” (I think that’s the Latin word for buttcake; correct me if I’m wrong).

    • Update

      The Wall Street Journal’s Damien Paletta reported on Twitter that the deal was falling apart and that a White House spokesperson said President Obama would veto it anyway. Sen. Reid’s office also contacted ThinkProgress and denied it “signed off” on any deal without commenting on the specifics of the story.

    • Actually, there is no such thing as a permanent tax break as the tax laws are always changing. Having said that, when Republicans talks about tax reform, hold onto your wallet because your taxes are going to increase.

  10. Sometimes, when the world gets too depressing, I take solace in the fact that my knowledge is not limited by simpletons like this woman. Despite her abrasive stupidity it does make me feel better and it’s good for a laugh or three. I think I also learned something exciting and new. Kent Hovind was not sent to prison; this poor thing swallowed him whole and now his crap is spewing from her pie hole.

    (NOTE: If you are not in the mood to be amused by how moronic a moron can be? Skip the video!)

    • I’m not watching that because I’m at work and can’t be punching my computer monitor. I’ve come to the conclusion that deniers like this are not only ignorant but incredibly stupid–so stupid that information bounces off their wooden heads.

      • Indeed. There is no level of stupidity greater than actually expending energy to remain ignorant. Ignorance is easy to cure but stupidity is chronic and generally terminal if not fatal.

        It’s nice to hear the new knee is coming along.

      • I’m not watching this because I’m trying to get into that whole give thanks love your neighbor thing and I suspect it will make me want to slap her.

    • Dear jeezus some man thought to procreate with this ignorant woman – twice.
      And she is passing along the idiocy to those children.

    • Wow. Makes me extremely happy that Netflix recently put all 13 episodes of Neil deGrasse Tyson’s “Cosmos” up; in the last couple of days, me and my sciatic leg have binge-watched the whole thing. I think that thanks to home school mama I may watch the whole thing again. Thirteen hours of science and knowledge is enough to wipe out at least a few minutes of pinnacled ignorance, ain’t it? If you watch it all twice, I mean?

      • I don’t know the exact ratio but NdGT can impart more knowledge in a single sentence than stupid people can “debunk” in a month of Mondays. I even have hope for her kids. There are so many sources of knowledge that it’s virtually impossible for even the worst parent to censor all of them.

  11. This should prove interesting as Dictator/Monarch/King wannabe Obama moves to clean up air pollution in spite of massive and predictable GOP Outgassing . . . ummmm . . .

    U.S. to Release Sweeping Ozone Regulation

    The Obama administration is expected to release a contentious and long-delayed environmental regulation that would rein in emissions of ozone, a smog-causing pollutant linked to asthma and lung disease.

    The sweeping regulation, which would target smog spewed from power plants and factories across the Midwest, would be the latest in a recent series of Environmental Protection Agency controls on air pollution. Such regulations, released under the authority of the Clean Air Act, have become a hallmark of President Obama’s administration.

  12. “… Yet, in so doing those words take us away from Ukraine and what is going on there by making the story about us, rather than the Ukrainians themselves….

    …. yes what he said… – a really good article about perception, reality and how the West goes to sleep and Putin counts on it to…

    • A really, really good article……. in summary it says this…. the Ukrainian revolution of 2013-2014 is the 99% against the 1%…. the 1% likes the idea of ‘us v them’ Сold War style…. and there are factions on both sides in the media and the powerful who will tell you this day after day….. do not believe it…. read this article and think… *we* are all Ukrainians…. we really are…

    • I’ve long figured that once Putin learns to rely on sneakiness rather than on a bare chest and the bulge in his pants, he’ll rather quickly figure out that victory over the corporate oligarchy (USA) is gonna be fairly quick and easy. Remember: to the powers-that-be on this side of the world, ALL that counts is profit. Money, in the more popular vernacular.

  13. Authorities in Peru are conducting an investigation on the deaths of about 500 sea lions, whose rotting bodies were found on the Anconcillo beach in the South American nation’s Santa province about 250 miles of Lima.

    Police are currently looking at the complaint made by the governor of the local Samanco district who claimed that marine farmers and fishermen harvesting shellfish were responsible for the death of the creatures alleging that they have poisoned the animals.

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