The Watering Hole, Saturday, December 27, 2014: Open Thread

This is your daily open thread. Discuss whatever you wish to discuss. It’s been a tough year to follow Politics, and there are many reasons to lose hope for this country given the stupid people are winning elections (by having their equally stupid candidates win), the bad cops are being protected too much by the good cops (and others in law enforcement, like a certain prosecutor in Missouri who deliberately misled a Grand Jury and lied about the law they were supposed to apply just to keep a murderer free), and a Supreme Court ruled by people without respect for the Constitution who actually lied in a decision when they claimed that money doesn’t have a corrupting effect on politics. It’s so draining. Here’s a monkey washing a cat.

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About Wayne A. Schneider

I'm a Liberal, Libertarian, Atheist Humanist. I believe that though the world is a dangerous place, it can be made better if we stop dividing ourselves by how we're different from each other, and reach out to each other through what we have in common. And that is that we are all human beings on this planet. Please remember that.

39 thoughts on “The Watering Hole, Saturday, December 27, 2014: Open Thread

  1. QOTD:

    “Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest,” an unidentified spokesman at the commission’s Policy Department said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.

    Because if Obama is known for anything, it’s his recklessness.

    • In an Authoritarian Police State, police officers can do anything they want; the public must acquiesce to their every demand or risk being arrested, beaten or killed.

      In the United States of America, police officers can do anything they want; the public must acquiesce to their every demand or risk being arrested, beaten or killed.

        • Yes that is a fact of life in this country now. Maybe always has been. Smedley Butler broke open the plot to take over the government under FDR. Then they shot JFK, MLK and Bobby Kennedy and made the message pretty clear that a Democrat that doesn’t give in is in danger. I don’t consider this a free country any more.

          • Amen. I’ve long maintained exactly that, and I’ve never seen anything to change my mind. “It” continues thru today, and I’d not be surprised at all to learn that the path is no longer reversible. The Oligarchs have won.

            • frugal, the path is reversible, and will be reversed. The question is, how many millions will die in the process.

          • When Kennedy was shot (& I was 9 at the time) I decided I didn’t want to go into politics, because I would be the type of person who would get shot.

    • Forgotten in all of the NYPD consternation, the woman, in Baltimore, who was the first murder victim.
      Loss of any life is tragic, not just police.

      • I propose an experiment. Repeal the Second Amendment, confiscate all guns and lock them up. Then, allow the purchase of baseball bats (with universal background checks, of course). then, after five years, check the murder rate. If it’s down, melt the guns down, turn them into nails or something similar.

        It’s so simple.

        • I propose a different experiment: repeal all laws restricting ownership of any kind of weapon.

          The net result, I predict, will be a Darwin Award.

    • And the police wonder why citizens don’t trust them…
      if they won’t protect the Mayor they aren’t about to assist the population.

      Police outside cop funeral turn backs on NYC mayor

      • The NYPD has apparently always hated the current mayor, regardless of political affiliation. This one had the nerve to marry a Black woman and have children with her. The outrage this time (nothing to do with an upcoming contract negotiation, of course) started because he spoke publicly about having “the talk” with his son, who looks Black. He said what pretty much any Black parent would say about being careful–which is exactly what we’ve heard from the po-lice since Ferguson: Be polite and do not argue with the nice policeman. Do not reach in your pockets ever. So obviously hates cops.

  2. Just in case any of you have not read it; “The Authoritarians” by Robert Altemeyer provides an in depth look at the mind set that seems to be sweeping our country. It doesn’t make me despise rightwhiners any less but I understand them better. Among other things; it helps me understand that the NYPD officers who turned their backs on the mayor really don’t understand that they might need said mayor to “have their backs” at some point. Then, when they start to pay a personal price for their assholish behavior, they will just whine and squeal all the louder.

    http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

  3. The more I read about, and learn of, my fellow man, the more I prefer the company of my pigs.

  4. It is being report that the photo of the NYPD turning its back on the Mayor is from several years ago.
    That may be, however, the cops did turn their back on the Mayor, at the funeral:

    Officers outside of the church could be seen turning their backs to the Jumbotron screen broadcasting the service as de Blasio spoke, CBS2’s Tony Aiello reported.

    NYPD Officers Turn Backs On Mayor During Funeral For Slain Officer Ramos

    • Ebb,

      My understanding is that the NYPD tweeted out a series of tweets (I might be able to find one) that were supposedly of the funeral for Officer Ramos, but were in fact from another police officer’s funeral (who was also shot in the line of duty.)

      The photos of police turning their backs on deBlasio are real. And it;s all because deBlasio said that he had given his bi-racial, black-skinned son “the talk” about how to deal with NYPD cops. And I think justifiably so given he’s been stopped and frisked because he’s black. Pat Lynch, the head of the PBA union claimed this was an insult to cops, and that’s why he organized that protest.

      Speaking of which, the family of the slain officer had asked the protesters not to demonstrate on the day of the funeral. I believe the protesters respected those wishes. Those NYPD officers who turned their backs did not, even after they also asked the protesters not to demonstrate on that particular day.

      • A great many of the NYPD are arrogant! If they can’t understand a Dad wanting his son to be safe, it is fairly easy to see cops have no clue they are part of the difficulties!

  5. I’m so bored I’m watching CNN’s coverage of another missing airliner. This one went down between Surabaya, Indonesia and Singapore.

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