The Watering Hole: Wednesday, October 7, 2015: 2nd Amendment v. Education

By now you’ve probably read about the latest mass murder on a school campus. There’s always two predictable responses: 1) an outcry and a call for sensible gun regulations and 2) “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.

Let’s face it, those who want to be armed to the teeth will, ’till their dying breath, say “you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers”.

Neither of these approaches has put an end to mass murders at our schools. It is time to try something different. Something radical.

The right to bear arms is carved into our Constitution via the 2nd Amendment. But there is no corresponding right to an education.

The solution is obvious. Shut down schools. Without schools, there will no longer be mass murders on school grounds. Kids can learn what they need to know from parents, grandparents and internet chat rooms.

Problem solved.

You’re welcome.

OPEN THREAD.

46 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: Wednesday, October 7, 2015: 2nd Amendment v. Education

  1. Bloody brilliant!!!! You have earned my vote.

    My new personal tack on the issue is that IF the (unsubstantiated) premise that “the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”, AND the pro-gun, pro-carry type is also against any “duty to retreat”, that it should be federal law that if you are carrying you have a “duty to engage”, and failure to do so makes you complicit with the criminal.

    My encounters so far have revealed a universal balk at this suggestion by the pro-gun.

    So — what I am getting, is they want to freely carry, because “it is the only way to reduce gun violence”, but they do not want to be required to use their weapon that is supposed to be in their possession “to reduce gun violence”, because they might.. you know… get shot. To me, this takes a lot of wind out of their argument, but it could just be me.

    (disclaimer — no, I do not ACTUALLY support that idea, but it is, I think, logical within their premise).

  2. Don’t remember where I got this from, but iirc, the President of the Christer Rifle Association (aka the CRAP) recently addressed all the mass school shootings by asking the (‘simple’) question, “If God don’t want mass school shootings, why the heck does He allow so many of ’em?”

    I’m guessing that Wayne LaPierre’s NRA response was prolly a one-worder:: “Amen.”

    • What was his Rumsfeldian response to Oregon shooting – “stuff happens”?

      Stuff should happen to Jeb “I am not a” BUSH….

    • I’d say it’s incompetence, or possibly incontinence.
      If he doesn’t suffer fools well, how does he ever look in the mirror???

  3. Huckabible says Doritos will make you gay. So, to review:

    Boycotting Chick-fil-A = Economic Terrorism

    Boycotting Frito Lay = What Jesus Wants

    • Frito Lay (Pepsico) could buy Chick-Fil-A with a rounding error on their balance sheet. Gonna be a lot more happy Homos than sad fundies.

  4. House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) addressed his recent comments about the Benghazi committee again on Wednesday, urging people to “stop playing politics.”

    That’s the joke.

    • The adage, “They can dish it out but can’t take it” comes to mind!
      It is delightfully amusing to see the Repugnants crying.

  5. Perhaps the fourteenth Amendment actually requires all Americans to carry loaded weapons, safeties off, magazine full, round in the chamber, just in case somebody tries to deny anyone else their Konstitooshunul rights. You know, like cutting you off in traffic, or looking at their girlfriend’s chest for more than, say, three seconds…Just blow each other away until there’s no more ammo left…problem solved…Homo sapiens extinction.

    • This is why people shouldn’t carry guns in public unless there is a legitimate need to do so. And people who DO carry need to understand something: Not every crime carries the death penalty. By taking her gun out and shooting him (when he posed no threat to her), if he died she would have taken his life without due process of law. She belongs in jail, and for longer than the shoplifter.

      • For some reason or other, I’m reminded of one of the original Star Trek episodes. Fifty years can fog the memory, though so . . .

        ummm . . . what were we talking about?? Sigh.

          • No, but EVERYbody had a gun (on a planet that looked remarkably like ours). Kinda like what this place would have become had the mobsters in the thirties prevailed.

            Hmmm. They did lose, didn’t they?

      • If I went to college and got a degree in journalism, and that was the best I could do to tell a story, I’d try flipping burgers.

    • Let me get this straight.

      1. Black guy runs out of store.
      2. White woman shoots at fleeing vehicle despite, apparently, not being threatened.
      3. Police didn’t, apparently, shoot or arrest the white woman and are still undecided whether charges will be filed against her.

      So. Will she be charged with reckless endangerment? Attempted murder? Unlawful discharge of a firearm? Anything? Will they even revoke her CC permit? Will the NRA and the local police department give her a effing medal for trying to kill a couple petty thieves and endangering everyone within a half-mile or so? Sigh…

      Here’s an idea that wouldn’t take guns away from law-abiding citizens. If someone fires a gun at another person, the shooter is arrested and brought before a judge who will decide if the shooter is too dangerous to walk away. No exceptions. Is that really too much to ask?

      • By the time he reached his vehicle, he was apparently bleeding from wounds in both arms and a leg, which were due to gunshots from the 63 year old security guard, who was justified in shooting him because ‘the robber threatened him on his way out the door’. I don’t think a verbal threat warrants gunfire, unless the shoplifter showed a gun to the guard. The RWNJs all think he should have shot to kill, since the black man dared to steal from Home Depot.

  6. Rachel Maddow’s reporting on the verbal quirks of potential House Speaker Kevin McCarthy is hilarious! If the caucus puts him in that leadership role, they will have ignored the simple title of the job: Speaker.

  7. That is his Twitter account. He really said that.

    “a real black President”?

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