Sunday Roast: Imagine…

via MotherJones

Posted without comment, in remembrance and support of the victims of terrorism.

48 thoughts on “Sunday Roast: Imagine…

  1. I posted this link here yesterday. It’s the ONLY piece I’ve yet seen that specifically refers back to the reasons WHY the French did not support the US invasion of Iraq in our post-911 hysteria. The quotes by French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin on the matter in 2003 are, this day in the aftermath of the Paris mass murders, far more than ample reason that the mass media should today be rampantly exposing the massive hypocrisy of the American Right Wing, also their total and complete IDIOCY, along with all of the bitter consequences thereof.

    Note that the same conservative hypocrisy and idiocy stand tall today as many blame Obama for the Paris horrors, along with Europe’s resistance to open carry. I mean, gee, if only all those people would have been armed . . .

    Will America ever WISE UP and toss the entire of the conservative (Fascist) movement into the nearest outhouse basement? Will anyone ever point out how abjectly STUPID the entire of the movement really is? And link the current Middle East mess directly to the pile of stench that is largely responsible?

    Conservatives change course after insulting France for opposing Iraq invasion in 2003

    After the 9/11 attacks, as the debate over the proposed invasion intensified, Americans soured on France — Gallup’s poll tracked a one-year 45 percent decline in the number of Americans saying they viewed France favorably, down from 79 percent in 2002 to just 34 percent in 2003. At the time, the French government was making the case that an invasion of Iraq would incite terrorism. “Such intervention could have incalculable consequences for the stability of this scarred and fragile region,” French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin said in a February 2003 speech at the United Nations Security Council. He continued: “Would such intervention today not be liable to exacerbate divisions between societies, cultures, peoples, divisions that nurture terrorism?”

    Researchers at New York University have since documented a significant increase in terrorism since the Iraq invasion — and there are many, including Iraq War proponents such as former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who have said the invasion helped fuel the rise of the Islamic State, which has taken responsibility for the Paris attacks. In that sense, America’s Iraq-themed reaction to 9/11 is context for what some are now calling France’s own 9/11.

    When the French government made its original case against the Iraq War, American conservatives depicted the longtime ally as a disloyal pariah. Congressional Republicans edited menus for restaurants in the House of Representatives, replacing “french fries” with “freedom fries.” Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, explained the change was a “small, but symbolic effort to show the strong displeasure of many on Capitol Hill with the actions of our so-called ally, France.”

    Should we expect to very soon see a House Freedom Caucus resolution or bill to change the name ‘American Fries’ to ‘French Fries’ as their way of honoring the Paris dead?

    • I can’t stand this hypocrisy either. They’re against France when it won’t help the righties get off on war. And with France when the righties think there’s a new chance to get off on war.

    • I agree with you but what what so many don’t understand and it’s only my opinion and substantiated a bit by results of recent elections is that America has changed and they want this right wing religious insanity.

      Sadly I think there is a good chance one of these crazy repugs could be elected president.

      Think it’s bad now – just wait.

      • I agree. My sense is that there is a ponderous but ever forward movement of an Americanized fascism, one that is slowly but surely assuming electoral control at levels from state to federal. It’s insidious, and the fact that so few here are aware of the horrific consequences of that politic is working in its favor.

        IF the 2016 election returns the entire of the government to the conservative GOP (read: fascist), it will not take long for it to completely destroy everything the country has ever stood for, and demand instead virtually all we have ever fought against.

        Someone once described our current “dilemma” when he said,

        “The mercy of the Lord slowly returns to us again. And in this hour we sink to our knees and beseech our almighty God that he may bless us, that He may give us the strength to carry on the struggle for the freedom, the future, the honor, and the peace of our people. So help us God.”

        Sounds like most any Republican presidential candidate. But nope. Adolf Hitler.

        • “it will not take long”
          Like the very first day the new congress convenes.
          There are not many who share the same position as us.
          And the Left continues to make fun of these people.
          There is nothing funny here in the least.

  2. On Fox News Sunday, the President of the He-Man Muslim Haters Club, Peter King, says Obama has failed to stop ISIS in Syria, Libya and Iraq, therefore it’s his fault they attacked France in Paris.

  3. Chris Wallace: ‘If we shoot down a Russian plane, who violates your no-fly zone, and they shoot down one of ours, what will you do then?’

    Ben Carson: ‘If they violate it, uh, we will, in fact, enforce it, and uh, yeah, we’ll see what happens.You know, to, to, uh, to, for us to always be backing down because we’re afraid of a conflict. That’s not how we became a great nation, Chris.’

  4. “Donald Trump was elected president tonight,” Ann Coulter said online after attacks in Paris killed at least 129 on Friday. She also linked terrorism to “Muslim immigration.”

    Book it, done.

  5. Bernie’s on Face the Nation today. If he’s on in the first half hour, I may get to watch him. I have the Brazilian Grand Prix starting at 10am cst.

    • “Adele’s blockbuster 21 tops the Billboard 200’s all-time albums ranking, fueled not only by the set’s 24 nonconsecutive weeks atop the list (the most weeks at No. 1 for an album by a woman), but also its lengthy chart run in the upper reaches of the tally,” according to a post on Billboard.

      Considering the shite that’s out there as competition for the top spots, duration at the #1 spot, as well as a ‘lengthy chart run’, as criteria, borders on damning her by faint praise. Top ten? Maybe.
      Here’s the Billboard 200 list. I own #10 and #15, on vinyl, and notice there’s no Steely Dan, Linda Ronstadt, or the real #1, Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys, in the whole list.

  6. Christiane Amanpour has had work done. She’s on CNN with Anderson Cooper in Paris right now and she looks a lot nicer than the last time I saw her.

  7. Interesting article:

    Why aren’t the Republicans serious about the presidential race?

    The central point:

    They have already proven that they can prevent a Democratic president from governing. And that is all they want to do on the federal level, keep the government from actually governing. Oh, and transfer as much wealth as possible to the top one percent and to the corporate oligarchy. But the real action is going on at the state level, where not only does the GOP need to maintain majorities to control the 2010 redistricting, but all of the coffers have not yet been emptied.

    [. . .]

    They want to win the presidency, but their desire to control the states may be stronger. They know that whether we elect Clinton or Sanders, they will remain in a position to just say no to every policy proposal that a Democratic president makes—at least until they can figure out how to gerrymander a presidential election. And chances are, there is already a GOP social welfare organization working that out in some office inside the Beltway.

    If/when the Republicans assume total control, it’s all over. America officially becomes Amurkkka. Period.

  8. I suspect — though I can offer no other evidence than such grasp of human psychology as I possess — that the ultimate purpose of the Paris attacks was to create exactly the hysteria toward refugees that it created.

    ISIL’s primary resource is NOT the oil it sells on the black market, but the people it controls, enslaves, and terrorizes. The flood of refugees was hemorrhaging that primary resource. They may now have effectively stopped that.

      • Thanks. I might as well, the race still hasn’t started yet. At least Phoenix Raceway has lights.

        The tweets didn’t display exactly like I had hoped. Delana Harvick (driver Kevin Harvick’s wife) put out a request for something sweet, ‘for a friend’. Stenhouse took the pic of Danica making cookies in the motorhome while they wait out this rain delay.

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