The Watering Hole, Tuesday January 12, 2016 – Environmental News and Food Politics

Some position statements from the candidates we love to hate most. These are random quotes and not position papers. Some might surprise you. Research source –

Donald Trump

Q: Would you cut departments?
TRUMP: Environmental Protection, what they do is a disgrace.Every week they come out with new regulations.
Q: Who’s going to protect the environment?
TRUMP: We’ll be fine with the environment. We can leave a little bit, but you can’t destroy businesses.
Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 Coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls , Oct 18, 2015

Ben Carson

Protecting environment logical for capitalists & socialists

Greed really encompasses most of the other negative aspects of capitalism, such as lack of regard for the environment. Many of the industrialists who helped propel our country to the forefront of the global economy were much more interested in growing their businesses than they were in protecting the environment. The result? Dangerous pollution and the compromised habitat of many animals. Protecting the environment is neither a Democratic nor a Republican position, but rather it should be a LOGICAL position for capitalists AND socialists, because everyone should be looking out for the interests of future generations and trying to protect their own health as well. If our government were able to identify what needs to be done in our country to protect our environment, and our representatives (who are supposed to be looking out for their constituents) agreed on our policies and followed through on them, it would benefit us all.
Source: America the Beautiful, by Ben Carson, p. 76 , Jan 24, 2012


Ted Cruz
Don’t pick winners & losers like RFS’ ethanol in gasoline
Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas flat out opposed the RFS [the Renewable Fuel Standard, which requires corn-based ethanol], saying Washington shouldn’t be “picking winners and losers.”
“I have every bit of faith that businesses can continue to compete and continue to do well without having to go on bended knee asking for subsidies, asking for special favors,” he said. “I think that’s how we got in this problem to begin win.”
Ethanol proponents argue that because oil companies own gas stations, consumers are unable to access ethanol and therefore it needs the government’s support to break through oil’s stronghold of the market. Cruz acknowledged that his view wouldn’t be well-received: “Look, I recognize that this is a gathering of a lot of folks who the answer you’d like me to give is, ‘I’m for the RFS, darn it.’ That’d be the easy thing to do. But I’ll tell ya, people are pretty fed up, I think, with politicians that run around & tell one group one thing, tell another group another thing.“
Source: CNN coverage by Ashley Killough, of 2015 Iowa Ag Summit , Mar 7, 2015

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31 thoughts on “The Watering Hole, Tuesday January 12, 2016 – Environmental News and Food Politics

  1. The EPA is already neutered and powerless against big chemical giants Monsanto and Bayer.
    Europe banned neonicitinoid insecticides because bee populations were being impacted by its use.
    After years of being banned in Europe, bee populations are stabilizing and rebounding.
    The EPA gets its data from the chemical manufacturers so its the weasel guarding the hen house.
    I’m not defending Trump but the system that’s in place is broken.

  2. Don’t pick winners & losers like RFS’ ethanol in gasoline
    Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas flat out opposed the RFS [the Renewable Fuel Standard, which requires corn-based ethanol], saying Washington shouldn’t be “picking winners and losers.”

    Washington isn’t picking winners and losers. The consumer does. 10% ethanol gas is almost $1 a gallon cheaper than regular fuel that’s 100% gasoline.

    • I thought gas stations were franchise businesses, individually owned and operated. They aren’t “owned” by the oil companies. That said, I have no doubt that if you want to own a franchise for oil company X, that oil company X can dictate what you sell under their name. But that’s not the same as owning the gas station because the physical property belongs to who owns it, and they can choose another oil company’s products to sell.

    • “Don’t pick winners and losers”

      says Ted “can you smell my fart?” Cruz

      OK then, let’s drop the $20b/year welfare to Big Oil?

  3. This is unseemly on several levels.

    From People: “Mr Rupert Murdoch, father of Prudence, Elisabeth, Lachlan, James, Grace and Chloe Murdoch, and Miss Jerry Hall, mother of Elizabeth, James, Georgia and Gabriel Jagger are delighted to announce their engagement.”

    Geeze, it’s like an evil version of The Brady Bunch. Mick Jagger and Jerry Hall were very close to David Bowie and making this announcement now is incredibly insensitive.

    And at 59, isn’t she a good 20 years past a billionaire’s “use-by” date?

  4. I sure hope the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Senate feels that seating bigots and criminals in the Senate chamber violates his religion.

  5. My kids are already on my case about my role in fookin’ everything up – from climate, to life expectancy ….. the boomers …. we’ll go down in history, if anyone is still around to write about it as the most self-centered, entitled, disastrous and wasteful generation in human history…. look on the bright side though…. WE”RE #1!! BOOMERS ROCK!

  6. I have an idea for a viral bumper sticker.

    “The good ol’ U.S.A. has become a parody of a nation.”

    Yeah. Your car will get vandalized but it will be funny because the RWNJs who vandalize your car have been saying the exact same thing since the moment they realized We The People actually elected a black Democrat as our president.

    • I have a legal question. Can Bundy use the “God wanted me there” argument in court to excuse his trespassing (as he didn’t forgive those who trespassed against him) as a kind of “religious freedom” defense? I say he shouldn’t be, but to me it raises the legal question of how far one is allowed to go in claiming they were acting on God’s will in breaking the law. Put another way, how serious is this country when it comes to the free exercise of one’s religion? Where exactly is the line?

      Juts wondering.

  7. I’ve been trying to avoid overdosing on all the political bullshit on blogs and television so, needing a rest from my Flagler project and before the SOTU begins, I thought I’d watch something about history on You Tube. I began watching the 1st episode of a 2010 History Channel mini series on American History and much to my dismay, five and a half minutes into the show they have Donald Trump espousing about success! So, being the intelligent person I am, I said “fuck this shit” I’m going to the Zoo!

  8. My facepalm moment tonight so far: In his ‘Let Me Finish’ segment, Tweety referred to Trump and Bernie Sanders as ‘political newbies’. Trump, sure, but Bernie? I guess to Tweety, being a Mayor, House Rep and Senator doesn’t count as political experience!

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