The Watering Hole; Friday April 8 2016; Grand Irony of The Week!

“For all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest
are these, ‘it might have been.’”
(John Greenleaf Whittier)

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Irony: the humorous or mildly sarcastic use of words to imply the opposite of what they normally mean.

Just a wild guess on my part, but I suspect when Pat Robertson publicly discussed his thesis that Islam is a Dangerous Infection That Must Be Eliminated, he wasn’t aware of the grand irony implicit in what he had to say. I seriously doubt, too, that he was trying to be humorous or mildly sarcastic in his use of words, but suffice to say, he accomplished it anyway, and with grandly ironic panache!

Robertson: No society should allow some alien body to come to its midst that preaches terror, preaches overthrow, preaches violence and preaches another form of government. We shouldn’t have that.

Now, that’s what is being allowed in Belgium and France and other parts of Europe in the name of political correctness. And the so-called socialist liberals think, ‘I want to be open and I want to be welcoming to these people who come in.’ Okay, a few of them, fine, assimilate into the society, learn the language, learn the customs and be Belgians. But these people are not. . . . they’re in the middle of Belgium and they’re growing and metastasizing and it won’t be long before they overwhelm the healthy body. Here in America and other places, we can only stand so much infection before it overwhelms us.

Robertson rambles on, then finally sums it all up.

That’s the problem. You don’t want to, you know, it seems like you’re violating people’s civil rights, you don’t want to take away their liberty and violate the thing you are, but people have got to stand up and recognize the threat and if they don’t do it the society’s doomed. That’s what’s happening.

Correction: That’s what happened.

It was way back in 1620 when North America’s First People really messed up and allowed some alien body to come to its midst, and several years did indeed pass before those white-skinned new arrivals managed to prove themselves to be of the type that preaches terror, preaches overthrow, preaches violence and preaches another form of government. The problem the North American aboriginals faced was that when you’re parcel to a culture composed of people of good spirit, you really don’t enjoy being nasty to visitors, to new arrivals, and you don’t want to take away their liberty and violate the thing you are. Problem is, it wasn’t long before they — the new arrivals — overwhelm[ed] the healthy body. The rest is, as they say, History; sadly, the First People failed to learn in time that in order to survive and prosper, people have got to stand up and recognize the threat and if they don’t do it the society’s doomed.

They’d likely have been better off had they done this:

Plymouth Rock wall

Yes indeed. Instead, they allowed the Christians to come ashore and settle. It’s likely that their leader, their Chief, was one whose attitude was something like ‘I want to be open and I want to be welcoming to these people who come in.’ A more reasonable approach would likely have been to say, Okay, a few of them, fine, assimilate into the society, learn the language, learn the customs . . .

But no, that wasn’t the case, and now the rest is history, sotospeak. Oh, and feel free to check with Pat Robertson and maybe mention to him that Islam and Christianity are a lot more similar than he’s ever been willing to admit! And while you have his attention, maybe ask him about his impressions of Grand Irony!

“And we have a president here in America who refuses
to name it, refuses to identify it and refuses to give us
what’s needed to kill the infection. As a matter of fact,
he wants to take more of them and bring them into
the country. It’s crazy.”
(Pat Robertson)

Yep. ‘Crazy’ is the perfect word.🙂

OPEN THREAD

21 thoughts on “The Watering Hole; Friday April 8 2016; Grand Irony of The Week!

    • The Hillary campaign has gone down the insidious road, and I’m betting it’s a well-planned hike designed to diminish Bernie through indirect means. The recent flap over “unqualified” began with a WaPo headline (using that word) and its insinuation that Hillary had described Bernie that way. She didn’t use THAT word, she said it in roundabout fashion instead.

      Reminds me of Bubba’s “That depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is” comment.

      Anyway, Bernie returned the favor, listed the reasons why her qualification might be in doubt, and ever since the shit has been in the fan, and all aimed directly at him. Like this comment on a Daily Kos post this morning:

      At great risk of being torched, Republican obstructionism is just one more reason (the make up of Supreme Court being the top/related one) it is time to state that I am done with Bernie. He has had a highly productive run, but his change of tone he is becoming destructive, not just to Hillary, but to the credibility of the ideas that he has infused into the Democratic ethos, and most importantly to our chances to defeat the Rs in November. Bernie, please STOP.

      Bernie responds directly to what Hillary insinuated and he gets lambasted while she gets credit where credit is NOT due.

      I’ve long said that if someone, someday, should ever try the honest approach in politics, the system will eat him/her. Q.E.D.

      • I hate to say this, but I don’t give much credibility to anyone who posts at Daily Kos. It was a bunch of snobby elitists when it started, and it hasn’t improved.

      • “Reminds me of Bubba’s “That depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is” comment.”
        Yeah, that was a major milestone on my path to complete disillusionment. I also think that President Carter tried the honest approach and the system did in fact eat him. The man is also an example of how a Christian should behave and he rarely gets any credit for that either.

  1. Bernie Sanders plans short hiatus from New York campaign trail to speak at the Vatican

    Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders, an enthusiastic fan of Pope Francis’s work, plans to step off the campaign trail next week to speak at a conference hosted by the Vatican on social, economic and environmental issues.

    The senator from Vermont is planning to head to Rome immediately after a high-profile debate scheduled here with Hillary Clinton on April 14. He’ll speak at the gathering hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, Sanders said.

    “I am grateful to the Vatican for inviting me to talk about an issue that is very dear to my heart, which is how we create a moral economy that works for all of the people rather than just the top one percent,” Sanders said in an interview. “I will also in my remarks be addressing the planetary crisis of climate change and the moral imperative to make sure we leave this planet in a way that is healthy and habitable for future generations.”

    • Bernie is a phenomenon of energy …. he has been at this now for almost a year and he is still pounding it hard…. would that I could do what he does at 74.

      • He’s only a few months older than I am, and I feel like I’ve been to the moon and back if/when I do a seven mile bike ride — which is, I know, not THAT much different from running for Pres and campaigning in the fifty states, but . . . well, you know.

    • The Clintonistas have already tried to smear Bernie by claiming he initiated the contact to be invited to speak.

      Sanders’s Vatican Invitation Sparks Accusation of ‘Discourtesy’

      Sanders, whose foreign policy experience is under attack by rival Hillary Clinton, said Friday he was “very excited” about being invited to a conference on economic and social issues hosted by a pontifical academy. It will put him at the seat of the Roman Catholic Church just four days before the New York primary.

      However it has also inserted Sanders into a dispute among Vatican officials. The president of the academy said Friday that Sanders didn’t follow proper protocol by failing to contact her office and that his presence threatens to make the event political. The academy’s chancellor said he arranged the invitation and defended the Vermont senator.

      “Sanders made the first move, for the obvious reasons,” Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the conference Sanders will attend, said in a telephone interview. “I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote but this is not the Catholic vote and he should remember that and act accordingly — not that he will.”

      This tweet shows the invitation clearly preceded his contact with the Archer woman.

      • I suspect Bubbafication is at work here.

        Seems to me that after Wisconsin and Sanders’ 7th win out of the last 8 contests, Hillary and her collective campaign staffers needed a mass diaper change, plus a new strategy. So all of a sudden, the mudsling shitstorm begins — all Bernie’s fault, of course. He started it.

        Sadly, the Clinton’s have never grown up, and apparently never will.

    • I suggest a new word to describe the evolution of the Clinton campaign to the point where it currently stands:

      Bubba-fication. Her initially respectful campaign IS now a Bubbafied caricature of what it once seemed to be. And no, that does NOT depend “on what the meaning is ‘is’ is.”

    • On a whim I decided to search for wigglefloof. Google seemed to actually know about them, since it filled in the term before I finished typing. It offered an option to select ‘wigglefloof definition’, which I clicked on. The top choice was an Urban Dictionary definition for ‘urban dictionary’.😉

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