It is the official policy of The Zoo since its founding to not endorse any political candidate or party for elected office. (But if you can’t figure out where most of us stand or how we intend to vote, you probably haven’t been paying attention.) So there’s one question I have for anyone reading this:
If you have already cast your vote, or intend to cast your vote, for any Republican, for any office, at any level of government (even local), could you please identify the candidate and office (include state and pertinent district – congressional or assembly) and explain why you’re casting a vote for that person? I truly want to understand. In my own home state of New York, most of the Republicans in this area are pretty moderate. I know many of the local politicians personally and they’re decent people. I don’t vote for them usually because they run unopposed. And since you can’t lose a race running unopposed if you vote for yourself, there’s no reason for me to vote for any of them. But they do a decent job, and I have no serious complaints. But my focus is more for the national level, and Republican control of any level of our federal government concerns me.
I ask that you not give vague and ambiguous platitudes like, “I support the Constitution.” (How so? What do you feel is being attacked? And what evidence can you cite for that?) I’d like to know the reasons why you wish to vote for a Republican, but I should caution you that the reasons you cite may be challenged by me or by others who post here. As a general rule, we tend to adopt the tone of the person commenting. If you start out exceptionally rude or with name-calling, I can’t promise you any civility in return. But if you’re polite, I promise you I will be, and I can safely vouch for the regulars here that we will be respectful as well.
Please, help me understand. Because I can think of lots of reasons why you shouldn’t, and I hope there’s time to talk you out of it.
This is our daily open thread. Please be sure to vote.
I would really like to start this day off with a double mocha valium latte but I have to do serious things that involve other peoples safety so the double mocha valium latte will have to wait.
Yes, and repelling alien life forms is what today is all about (no mention of specific life forms included)
Well at least that guy went and laid his life on the line for the human race – unlike the Tangerine Shitgibbon
For all you Doctor Who fans, time to wish the actor who played Vincent Van Gogh a Happy Birthday.
I loved that episode. Happy Birthday, Richard!
Very good show – we made a point of going to see that Sunflower in the Musee D’Orsay this summer. “The ultimate ginge!”
This is good. Especially the pic of Giuliani before he says something…
I won’t miss them at all.
Rudy and Cohen had the best still shots. 😆
I wish I could do that.
Oh… cool
Okay, we just voted. Now I can sit here and be nervous all day. 😦
It’s going to be okay, Jane!
Jane and I just voted. I’ll be off to work today. I’ll see you tonight.
Wayne, I hope you don’t mind if I add a flag photo to this post. It shows up better when I share it to FB.
Totally okay with me. Thank you. 🙂
Since Washington state handles elections by mail, The wife and I voted a week ago.
Wayne, I took your sage advice on the process, thanks!
Nov. 8, 2016 takes me back in time to a few months short of 53 years ago. YIKES!
It was back in early spring of 1964, my senior year at ASU in Tempe AZ. Several of us college boys had recently made our fairly regular “get the booze” trips to Nogales Mexico. In those days, each visitor (age 21 or more) to Mexico could bring back a gallon of duty-free booze, so if four or five of us went, that meant 4-5 gallons of really cheap but really good liquor, and all that was required was a six hour round trip plus about $5-6 in cash (the cash was the trickiest part to come up with back then). My gallon consisted of a fifth each of Tequila, Vodka, Gin (Mex gin was SOOO yummy!), dark Rum, and Cherry Brandy.
So. A week or two after the trip, the movie Dr. Strangelove was playing at a theater in Mesa, a few short miles down the road from Tempe (Mesa in AZ was, back then, roughly as ‘Mormon’ as was Salt Lake City in Utah. Scary scary). Anyway, college buddy nicknamed Dirty Dave and I decided we’d go see the movie one Friday evening. Late that Friday afternoon, I decided I’d try something new in the weekend cocktail project; it turned out really good. I used a tall glass plus several ice cubes, and then added one shot each of: Tequila, Vodka, Gin, dark Rum, and Cherry Brandy, then topped the glass off with fresh-squeezed orange juice. I tasted it, thought it was really — REALLY — good tasting. About that time, Dirty Dave showed up, ready to head off for the movie in Mesa a half-hour or so later. He asked what I was drinking. I said it was something I made with the stuff I got in Mexico on the last trip. He said he’d like to try it, so I made him one. After the first sip, he said, “Hey, that’s really good!” and slurped it up in less than five minutes. He said it was “so good, maybe I’ll have one more before we go.” I obliged. He drained it quickly. We left for Mesa, me driving.
Got to the theater, parked, and walked to the ticket window. I bought my ticket, Dirty Dave bought his, then looked at me and said, “Let’s go in. I need to sit down.” I noticed his face was covered with red blotches. We found seats in roughly the middle of the main floor. The lights were still on as the ticket holders came in and took their seats. Dave was quiet. Then the lights dimmed and the projector turned on, the “previews of coming attractions” played, and then the movie began with the opening music and scenes. And then it happened.
Dirty Dave slumped back in his seat and then without warning yelled, at the top of his lungs, “OH . . . FUCCCKKKK!!” Then he conked out. When the movie was over, I had to wake him up, usher him out of the theater and into the car, then drive him home and push him into his apartment. Didn’t see him for a couple of days.
We later decided what that cocktail needed most was a really good name, one that defined it. After lots of screwing around with goofy names, we finally settled on this one:
The El Kabong!
I haven’t had one since 1964, but have decided that the recipe needs to be shared — today — just in case this election should go totally fucking wrong. Remember: tall glass, ice cubes, 1 shot each of Tequila, Vodka, Gin, dark Rum, Cherry Brandy, topped off with Orange Juice. Two of them, and Donald Trump WILL disappear; and then, El Kabong!. For at least a day, maybe two.
Yeehaw. 🙂
Yikes! Thanks for sharing the recipe though. May just have to try that: once. 😉
If Trump is on the inaug. stage instead of HRC on Jan 20, twice might be warranted? 😉
Definitely.
Just voted. Given the time of day (and remote suburban location), there was no line. I was #338, which is very high for our precinct for this time of day.
Saw this on a message board today: “Trump’s campaign doesn’t trust him with a Twitter account. Why should I trust him with the nuclear codes?”
That was a quote from Obama!
So, the Drumpfukle clan hoses up once again. SonofAKlutz Eric breaks the law as he tweets a ballot selfie. Dimwitted Fumbducks.
The Donald was photographed peaking at Melania’s ballot, which may also be a violation of New York Election Laws.
Betting it wasn’t only her ballot he was peaking at. He is a SOD, after all (Son of Donald).
Actually Sr is a Son of Fred. Here’s The Donald (as he is affectionately/disaffectionately known in NY) illegally peeking at Melania’s ballot. Do Conservative men realize women have their own rights, and are not obligated to share this kind of info with their husbands if they choose not to?
https://twitter.com/mcspocky/status/796077395220566020
Oops, For some really weird reason I carried “Eric” and “selfie” down to “__X__ illegally peeking at Melania’s __p**_Y__”. My bad. But . . . well, prolly didn’t miss it by much anyway, right? [sigh].
Pass me another El Kabong.
Taxed … not represented not today nor tomorrow. Worried about my kids whatever happens.
I’m back from voting. No lines, but that is typical in my rural precinct. For some reason the cashier in the grocery store was talking to customers about who they voted for, and informing them that we need Trump because we need a strong leader. The folks in front of me looked very uncomfortable. When it was my turn, I informed her in a very firm voice that Trump was a bully, that he could not be strong because the need to bully others always comes from fear and weakness. I think I shocked the poor woman, but I could not be silent with my son standing there.
Good for you OIMF!
I voted over a week ago, as many of you know Oregon votes by mail, the absolutely most sane way to participate in our ritual of picking our next political leadership. It’s sunny and bright this morning. I’m taking that as a positive omen because…why not.
BTW, that’s another reason the GOP wants to destroy the USPS. Too many people vote for Democrats by mail.
That cashier should be fired. That is not the place for electioneering.
That occurred to me, but she might really need that paycheck. I don’t want someone to lose their car over it. We libs are often too nice.
And the Cons know it, which is why they keep bullying us. They know we’re not like them and won’t fight back as hard.
Outstanding, Outstanding!!! 😆
I’ve always wanted to say that. 🙂
I bow in your general direction.
I’m going to post this link here so i can look at results later to see how things went for the country.
https://www.thenation.com/article/these-election-results-will-define-america/
Thanks, Wayne. Should be interesting.
I need some Randy Rainbow.
One of these days I’ll get a reaction from Luntz, the man who gave Newt his list of words to call your opponent. But at least he has good taste in comics. 🙂
Trump has filed a lawsuit in Nevada.
It’s due to some early-voting polls staying open longer than they were supposed to, to accommodate the long lines.
Yes, by all means, let’s keep people from voting.
Trump will likely be on Geico ads soon. ‘Don’t like election results? Sue. It’s what you do if you’re Donald Trump!’
Well, dammit, they were mostly Mexicans! Why the hell do we even let them criminals, rapists and drug dealers vote anyway? Besides they’re all Democrats, and we know what THAT means. Illegals! Obama’s bussed in millions of them just so crooked Hillary’s vote count goes up!
THIS ELECTION IS RIGGED!!!
******
We ain’t seen nothin’ yet. So speaks my ass.
I’m thinking of an El Kabong — maybe emailing the recipe to the Drumpf***k campaign.
“But I’ll lose in a fair election!”
As the old ‘Little Rascals’ line went, “Poor Alfalfa. Oh poor, poor Alfalfa.”
The judge told them “No.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/incredulous-nevada-judge-slaps-down-trumps-voter-fraud-suit-what-are-you-asking-for/
That lawyer doesn’t know it yet, but he’s working pro bono. 😆
That’s funny right thar …
Imagine if someone of Hispanic descent did this.
Eric Trump Breaks New York Voting Laws to Take a Ballot Selfie | Mother Jones
Did Eric ride one of those busses full of illegals that Obama shipped in from Mexico, by any chance?
To be fair, it’s a stupid law and probably violates your First Amendment right to free speech. Some states have had it challenged on those grounds.
But that doesn’t make Eric Trump any less of a weasel.
We have a similar law in hee haw hell. No photography in a polling place.
You can carry a gun but, you can’t take pictures.
https://twitter.com/FullFrontalSamB/status/796066885066338304
Remember, Machete kills. That’s what he does.
That’s one Bad Hombre!! Heh…
But where’s Santanica Pandemonium?
The tombstone above has gotten even more decorated since then.
https://twitter.com/SarahMaslinNir/status/796049901704671237
There’s actually a line to get to Susan B. Anthony’s grave just to put something there or on her stone.
https://twitter.com/SarahMaslinNir/status/796009669525389312
James O’Keefe, professional dickwad, is at it again. This time I hope he goes to jail. he’s filming the evidence against himself.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/james-okeefe-films-himself-committing-voter-intimidation-by-stalking-a-church-van-bringing-people-to-polls/
With molesters in the foreground of the cast….
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/11/hastert-loses-bid-to-dismiss-lawsuit-from-sex-abuse-accuser-230951
Do any Trumps bother to follow the law? What Eric is doing here is illegal, just like what his father did to his stepmother.
I think it’s time to start drinking on the east coast.
I just finished my 1st Heineken and a couple pieces of pizza It’s too early to look for returns so I’m watching Time Team episodes and checking in here for now.
And the west coast. 😉
And all across the mountain west . . . (except Utah and parts of AZ and ID, of course)!
Hello Everybody, I took a day off from work tomorrow, so I can be with you through election night. So keep those comments coming!
Hi EV! Please apologize to Europe on my behalf.
YO EV! — Please apologize to Europe on OUR behalf! 🙂
EVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, big sister! ❤
There is no need for apologies. We had Brexit.
That’s what Jane and I are doing. We’re taking tomorrow off so we can stay up as late as necessary. To help you not stay up longer than necessary to see who wins, just wait for Hillary to reach 192 Electoral Votes (without Illinois.) If the count includes Illinois, then wait for 192. Hillary will get the 78 Electoral Votes for Washington, Oregon, California, and Hawaii, and that will be enough to win. So you don’t have to wait until ALL the returns are in, just enough for her to reach 192 without the west coast and Hawaii.
Wayne, I know. But there’s so much popcorn to eat and so little time. My son joins me in watching, he called in sick at school already.
Well, then, you can impress him by calling the election as early as possible. 🙂
Wayne, he is the guy who, at 18, gets me to discuss Kant and Carl Schmitt and Te Nehisi Coates with him and I really have to have my wits about me when he does that. Right now, he impresses me.
I’m expecting the Senate to be more of a white-knuckler.
EV!! Long time no read! Hope you experience the joy of victory, and revel in the Drumpfuckle agony of de feet.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwudr-pXcAAGAaz.jpg:large
HAHAHA
It is not a joke. They really changed the Toblerones to be sold in the UK. The £ has gone down so badly things are getting comparably expensive, so they decided to sell less for the same money. They took Marmite off the shelves at Tesco. Which caused, of course, an uproar. (Never mind the Aussies promised to help out with Vegemite)
Toblerones yes, but what about Cojones in Britain? Has the obvious shortage driven the price way up? Caused an uproar? (Vegemite won’t help. Sorry, Aussies).
They kept JC as Labour leader, though. Despite a veritable war of the Blairites on their own party members. So…
I knew about the Marmite, I brought some back on my last run to London for a mate – a big jar. I asked him if he had any left – he said it was now treated as caviar at home.
I know the pound dropped like a brick – my trips there have been all $ spending …
I know it’s a bit early for Christmas (I actually saw a pickup truck with Christmas trees on it on my way to work today), but here’s a cute little guy we can all hope to see Christmas morning.
https://twitter.com/landpsychology/status/796107078456799238
OMG! Cute overdose
The NY Post put together these “high”-lights. It ends with one of my favorites, Jeb Bush asking, “Please clap.”
Doesn’t Carla have some tech company to drive into the gutter?
Is/was the GOP really a ‘tech company’? If so, Snarly did help with the gutter part.
My True Fave today, from Mr. Paul Waldman, courtesy of Greg Sargent’s Plum Line.
Hillary Clinton has to be gracious to Donald Trump. The rest of us don’t.
Sublime.
This electoral campaign has ruined a lot of political careers. Jeb Bush “Please clap”. Ted Cruz. Chris Christie. Paul Ryan. Marco Rubio. Reince Priebus. Scott Walker. I’m not complaining, mind.
No complaints here. 😉
“A lot” of GOP careers ruined, yes. But not nearly ENOUGH of the damn things. Not yet, anyway. Maybe tomorrow!
Amurkkka: think Germany in 1933. Tipping point. Vote accordingly.
Vamos a’ver.
There is a house for sale down the block. ‘case anyone is interested.
Maybe. Give me an hour or so to decide.
Who won?
Nobody yet, just keeping my options open.
Is it big enough to accommodate the Zoo Commune, perchance? Big back yard?
If you Google “live 2016 election results” you can see some results, as least as far as Senate seats and House seats won, as well as Electoral Votes won.
Live steam, Young Turks
EDIT: stream 😀
Jesus fucking christ, I’m having trouble tracking here. 😆
I keep thinking, “Why do I have so many tabs open? Why am I hearing Cenk talking about number shit?” Oh yeah…nevermind. 😛
Tab fatigue. Damn it!
That, too!!
I’m trying to get two hours of shuteye. I almost passed out on the couch. Too close for comfort.
I hope we have good news when you wake up!
Jane, I need a Xanax!!!
I just took an Ativan.
There still remains TRUTH out there. Somewhere. And even people willing to speak it. Far out.
I still maintain that if Trump gets more than three votes (his, Eric’s, and Jr.’s) total, the election is RIGGED. Either that or there are tens of millions of stupid shits that live here. ‘Out there.’
I should prolly try an El Kabong. Or two. Three maybe?
The NY TImes has a cool “dashboard” style real-time tracker.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region®ion=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region
Somebody talk me down, here. We CANNOT have a Trump presidency!!
Worried.
That’s an intolerable prospect. Actually, it’s worse than intolerable. I don’t know the word. It’s that bad.
Excruciating?
https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/796176213647704064
That’s encouraging.
If that holds up, we have a chance. Iowa is a surprising surprise so far…Praying to Crom for the strength to make it through the night.
Virginia just went to Clinton.
Ohio –> Trump.
Far too many of my fellow Americans seem to be batshit crazy.
I feel sick…..
Colorado: Clinton.
Thank all gods. I can re-sheath my hara-kiri sword.
You may still need a hit of your “recipe” though.
I have not re-sheathed the El Kabong recipe! Never will! NEVAH!
*whew*
DOW Futures down about 600. Apparently that’s the kind of change we were after?
“The next President of the United States!”
Trump won Florida. Pass the recipe Frugal.
Equal parts Tequila, Vodka, Gin, dark Rum, and Cherry Brandy. Tall glass with ice, top with O.J. — and tears. 😥
Trump takes Idaho. Who saw that one coming?
North Carolina: Trump.
Hillary takes Oregon!
I took a nap. Not hearing much to cheer as I’m waking back up. Democratic Underground is offline due to an acknowledged hack, according to the administrators. Discussionist also is down. DU had said early they might restrict access to Star Members if traffic became heavy during the night. If you try to go to DU, you get an explanation page instead of access to the site.
Wisconsin: Trump (probably)
We seem to be setting up for another electoral college/popular vote disconnect.
Well this sucks…
Hi, TROS.
Hillary canceled her fireworks display… 😦
No shite…
I’d say this is just like a scene from a Stephen King novel, but’s NOT fiction…
It’s real…
I’m hanging on by my fingernails, to the little hope I have remaining.
Florida and Ohio did her in… she was favored to take both and that’s about an 80 vote swing in the Electoral College… she wins both, this is over…
Americans: The most stupid people on the planet.
Good night all.
“Good night and good luck” – Edward R Murrow – from the darkest times in the last 100 years.
And from outside the US
Goodnight, zxbe.
Good night.
Buenas noches. (Hoping to be deported asap)
Apparently “Suburban White Women” have, overall, voted for Trump. I propose a new definition for the word STUPID!
Georgia: Trump.
Werd
As Dirty Dave put it back in ’64 on the front end of Dr. S. —
“OH . . . FUCCCKKKK!”
I hope we can live without my husband’s salary. He won’t work for Trump,
Goodnight, my friends.
Goodnight. I dread tomorrow.
I’ve already woken up from my nap. Will need something stronger to get through this night.
What did they do? I go back to bed.
It appears that the rise of the uneducated has propelled Trump to the presidency.
Well gang we’re in a nightmare. I’m truly stunned that my country elected this fascist to be the leader of the free world.
Stunned but not deterred. I will do whatever needs to be done for my children and grandchildren. I remain an optimist.
Let me cry my eyes out first. I’ll try optimism again maybe tomorrow.
God help us all.
It looks like I will be starting out my day with a double mocha valium latte.
Merde!
I am in a state of shock. The will to fight for doing the right thing has left me. As I am currently working for a charitable foundation whose goal it is to provide housing for the working poor, I will concentrate on that. Those fascist voters and those ‘I won’t for..’ voters (all those who think like them over here) deserve everything they’ll get. I’m over cleaning up other people’s messes.
This world is upside down.
I have to wonder if this is how people felt when Pearl Harbor was attacked…??? This is a threat to our country and humanity.
Maybe. I feel like we have lost the planet, that any progress we have made combating climate change and protecting our air and water is gone. This was a hard thing to tell a beautiful differently-abled hispanic 17 year old this morning.
Today is a first for me, the first time in 74 years that I’ve regretted waking up in the morning. I guess that’s a predictable consequence, one that comes with the knowledge that all is now lost, that ignorance, fear, hate, and greed have prevailed. I wish there was somewhere to go — somewhere that would allow me to distance myself from the reality of being at all associated with a country that has chosen the path of global destruction rather than global leader, of darkness rather than light. I know now that I’m an American solely because of accident of birth, and NOT because of any sense of loyalty to what this country has finally become, i.e. a society run by subhuman dregs.
The realization that all is lost is not a fun thought.
Good idea. Who would have thought he would have one good one?
https://twitter.com/nhdogmom/status/796357829045190656
If there’s a bright spot in any of this, it’s that we won’t have Sen David Duke confirming judges. It would have been really bad if he had won. I seriously would have considered moving next to dycker. I’d be more than happy to lend Canada my talents.
He’s even more of an inspiration now.
https://twitter.com/ACreativeMuggle/status/796369852407644160