The Watering Hole; Th/Fr Nov. 17/18 2016; ‘Oh Say — Can You See’?

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“Now the face that I see in the mirror,
More and more is a stranger to me;
More and more I can see there’s a danger,
Of becoming what I never thought I’d be – “
(Lyric by John Denver)

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▼Rising ‘Beaver’ Moon; Nov. 14 2016▼

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♬  Oh say, can you see, by the moon’s subtle light,

How PROFOUNDLY we’ve failed, since the twilight’s last gleaming . . . ♬

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“If ever we put any other value above liberty, and above principle, we shall lose both.”
~Dwight D. Eisenhower (1960)

League Of The South Hails Trump, Wants ‘No Mercy’ Towards ‘Jews, Minorities And Anti-White Whites’: “You, by God’s grace, may have been given a short reprieve from this scenario. Redeem the time! As for me, I recommend that we get busy with Southern independence. We need our own country, and it must be run by us for our own interests. It must once again be White Man’s Land.”

In Donald Trump’s America, fear, violence and intimidation are taking over college campuses: Vandalism and slurs have surged on college campuses, from “Trump!” graffiti to pushing a Muslim student down a hill

Worst potential Trump pick of all? It might be anti-immigration guru Jeff Sessions as attorney general: The Alabama senator wants to shut down immigration and birthright citizenship — and tells “jokes” about the KKK

From 9/11 to 11/9: Is Donald Trump’s election collateral damage from the War on Terror?: How Trump exploited the War on Terror’s effects on our political culture, economy and national psyche

Why Recent Child Rape Case Against Trump Should Not Be Ignored: Victim Has A Witness (updated): Tiffany Doe herself says that she is in mortal fear of Mr. Trump to this day: “I am coming forward to swear to the truthfulness of the physical and sexual abuse that I personally witnessed of minor females at the hands of Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein . . . I swear to these facts under the penalty for perjury even though I fully understand that the life of myself and my family is now in grave danger”. (See also: www.huffingtonpost.com/…)

Trump adviser promises a return to `Drill, Baby, Drill’: An adviser to President-elect Donald Trump has now promised that the incoming administration will collect “hundreds of billions of dollars” in revenue by “opening up” federal lands and oceans to oil, gas, and coal development.

NASA: `Planetary warming does not care about the election’: A very warm October ensures 2016 will be the hottest year by far: The only way to stop this vicious cycle of ever-more dangerous threats is through a global effort to slash carbon pollution deeply and rapidly. Tragically, elections can and do affect whether major emitters like the United States will keep trying to solve the problem — or become a major reason we don’t.

“But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is
a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that
they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism
& exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”
~Hermann Goering (1893-1946)

Seattle Councilwoman Gets Threats After Call To Shut Down Trump’s Inauguration: ‘I will come and tattoo a swastika on your head and on that bitch’s head.’

Democratic Coalition Files FBI Election Complaint Against Stephen Bannon: Whoopsie! It looks like Brietbart head racist in charge and alt-Right champion may have skirted some pretty serious campaign finance laws while working to elect Cheeto Jesus Trump.

Steve Bannon To Help Trump Bring White Nationalism, Misogyny and Anti-Semitism To The White House

Donald Trump Taps Radical Conspiracy Theorist Frank Gaffney For Transition Team

Trump Reportedly Considering White House Post For Anti-Muslim Activist Who Called Joseph McCarthy ‘Spot On’: Trump is considering naming Center for Security Policy official Clare Lopez to a top national security post in his White House. . . . Responding to protests against Trump’s candidacy that turned violent this summer, Lopez linked the protests to a “witch’s brew” of Muslim Brotherhood supporters, Black Lives Matter activists and a “conglomeration of anarchists, communists, socialists, progressivists, leftists of all sorts, Occupy, Bill Ayers types,” all seeking to bring down “the American political system.” She also warned of “a coordinated effort to involve Muslims into the electoral process,” an effort that she said was being “directed by the Muslim Brotherhood.”

Jan Brewer: ‘Orchestrated’ Trump protesters are ‘just awful’ — and many owe allegiance to Mexico: “Obviously their allegiance isn’t to the United States, it was to Mexico,” she said, while also calling the protests “orchestrated” and “just awful.” “They’re not entitled to behave like that, I don’t believe. You know, people protest, it’s fine. A lot of them aren’t legal citizens and some of them are and they didn’t even vote and now they’re outraged. They could at least give him a chance.”

What luck for rulers, that men do not think.
~Adolph Hitler

Michele Bachmann: Trump’s Election Was ‘God Answering The Prayers Of His People’: “We saw the Lord answer so specifically that only the hand of God could do that,” she said. “Let’s pray and join and ask the Lord that godly believers would be put in these key sensitive positions. People that the Lord will use for blessing for the United States and for the world. This was the number one story of 2016: God answering the prayers of his people.”

Jim Bakker: Trump’s Election Is ‘The Greatest Miracle I Have Ever Seen’

Kenneth Copeland Now Has A Direct Line To Deliver Messages From God To President Trump: “I am totally convinced that if the Lord were to say something to me … that the president needs to hear,” he said, “I have no doubt that we could do it and do it quickly and have audience to say, ‘Thus saith the Lord’ and he wouldn’t just turn it over to an aide or something and just write it off. He would listen and it would mean something to him.”

Mike Huckabee Tells Far-Right Gathering That Trump Could Be One Of The Greatest Presidents Ever: He said that he trusted Trump to “put good people in the Supreme Court” and “put people in the State Department that might rid Foggy Bottom of the horrible pro-terrorist nonsense that has infiltrated that hideous agency.”

“The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense
founded on the Christian religion.”
~Treaty of Tripoli, signed on June 10, 1797,
by President John Adams.

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▲Setting ‘Beaver’ Moon; Nov. 15 2016▲

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Who are we, really? Do we know?

“Our Revolution commenced on more favorable ground
[than the foundation of the Ten Commandments]. It presented
us an album on which we were free to write what we pleased.
We had no occasion to search into musty records, to hunt up
royal parchments, or to investigate the laws and institutions of
a semi-barbarous ancestry. We appealed to those of nature,
and found them engraved on our hearts.”
~Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Major John Cartwright, June 5, 1824

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“The office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not
in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.”
~Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist #68

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“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost
duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It
will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation
has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our
national morality, and the family as the basis of national life.”
~Adolph Hitler; My New World Order, Proclamation to the
German Nation at Berlin, 1 February 1933

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My response to the election
of Donald J. Trump
and
to the dishonor of ALL who
are responsible for his electoral “victory.”

NONE

None there are so blind as those
Who neither care nor dare to see;
And None there are so dunce as those
Who neither dare nor care to think –

But worse than those who dare not dare
To think, perchance to see,
Are those who never care to care,
But think each lie their leader speaks –

Bespeaks reality.

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Finally, my interpretation of the rise of the (emerging) Trump Reich:
(to the tune of the Colonel Bogey March)

♬  Donald, has only got one ball
Putin, has two but they are small
Priebus has two, but Jeebus —
Herr Stephen Bannon has no balls at all!  ♬

bannon

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‘We’ll have to leave it there.’

OPEN THREAD

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34 thoughts on “The Watering Hole; Th/Fr Nov. 17/18 2016; ‘Oh Say — Can You See’?”

  1. Trump is already working on withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement

    a source on his transition team told Reuters that the president-elect might be looking at a more extreme option to cancel the Paris agreement, by canceling the very treaty that made the Paris agreement possible in the first place — the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). The UNFCCC was ratified by the Senate under George H.W. Bush, and the United States was actually the first developed country to ratify it — largely because the U.S. felt it was important to have a seat at the table for climate negotiations on the international stage.

    Trump could cancel the UNFCCC with an executive order, which would effectively pull the United States out of the Paris agreement within a year. That would mean that the United States was no longer obligated to make payments to the U.N. Green Climate Fund, which was created in order for developed countries to help finance developing countries’ climate mitigation and adaptation projects. But pulling out of the UNFCCC would also mean that the United States would, essentially, become an international pariah with regards to climate negotiations — the country would basically have no official voice, or seat at the table, in climate negotiations or treaties.

    • Something isn’t right. Not that I doubt Think Progress’ intentions, but I find it hard to believe that a president can nullify a treaty (which has to be ratified by the US Senate) with just an Executive Order. There’s a reason we have the Legislative Branch give their approval to treaties. I refuse to believe a president can ignore them and cancel a treaty with just his own say-so.

      • A third difficult question is whether the Treaty Clause implies a Senate power or role in treaty termination. Scholarly opinion is divided, and few Framers appear to have discussed the question directly. One view sees the power to make a treaty as distinct from the power of termination, with the latter being more akin to a power of implementation. Since the Constitution does not directly address the termination power, this view would give it to the President as part of the President’s executive powers to conduct foreign affairs and to execute the laws. When the termination question first arose in 1793, Washington and his Cabinet, which included Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson, embraced this view. All of them thought Washington could, on his own authority, terminate the treaty with France if necessary to keep the United States neutral.
        http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/90/treaty-clause

  2. Global warming …. never in the history of human government, have so many people in the world been so totally fucked by the votes cast by an ignorant, racist and deplorable few.

  3. GOP lawmaker offers law to prosecute protesters as ‘terrorists’ for blocking the street

    A Republican lawmaker in Washington state has proposed a new crime of “economic terrorism” to prosecute protesters who block streets, threaten jobs or endanger public safety.
    . . .
    “We are not just going after the people who commit these acts of terrorism,” the lawmaker warned. “We are going after the people who fund them. Wealthy donors should not feel safe in disrupting middle class jobs.”

    ACLU of Washington spokesperson Doug Honig pointed out that the proposed law appeared to be “targeting civil disobedience as ‘terrorism.’”

    Funny how every time protests are in support of any right wingnut agenda they’re OK and ‘Constitutional’, but when they’re in support of non-wingnut policy they suddenly become ‘Terrorism.’

    Think Germany, 1933-1945.

  4. ‘Hatred of one minority leads to hatred of all’: Jewish historians sound an alarm on Trump era

    “Hostility to immigrants and refugees strikes particularly close to home for us as historians of the Jews,” they write. “As an immigrant people, Jews have experienced the pain of discrimination and exclusion, including by this country in the dire years of the 1930s. Our reading of the past impels us to resist any attempts to place a vulnerable group in the crosshairs of nativist racism. It is our duty to come to their aid and to resist the degradation of rights that Mr. Trump’s rhetoric has provoked.”

    Amurkkka: Land Of the Fear And Home Of The Hate.

    How about instead of deporting undocumented immigrants and/or setting up a federal Muslim “Registry” we just round them ALL up and put them in internment camps? We could build those camps most anywhere, you know, and costs would be way less than deporting (think of the gas that would be saved). Plus, there are some good and defining names for camps like that: Buchenwald, Treblinka, Majadenek, Auschwitz-Birkenau, etc., none of which are trademarked so we wouldn’t have to worry about being sued for infringement.

    Next time I see Trump I’ll suggest that.

    • Speaking of internment camps, this just in:

      Megyn Kelly To Trump Supporter: ‘You’re Not Proposing The Days Of Internment Camps, I Hope’

      Trump supporter and former Navy Seal tells Fox News that he supports a registry to track Muslim and used Japanese style internment camps as precedent that it’s all legal and wonderful.

      Kris Kobach, Kansas’ Secretary of State, said in an interview that “Trump’s policy advisers are discussing plans to draft a proposal to reinstate a registry for immigrants from Muslim countries.”

      This, of course, is as extreme as it gets, although white nationalists love it, and goes against everything America has been founded on.

      • Speaking of Kris Kobach:

        Kris Kobach, Architect Of Draconian Anti-Immigrant Policies, Joining Trump’s Transition Team

        Kris Kobach, the secretary of state of Kansas and a leading architect of draconian anti-immigrant and voter suppression laws around the nation, will reportedly be serving on Donald Trump’s presidential transition team as an immigration adviser. As the Wall Street Journal notes, Trump “has vowed to cancel President Obama’s promise to protect from deportation undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children, and start deporting as many as two million undocumented immigrants with criminal records.”
        . . .
        Kobach is the force behind anti-immigrant laws throughout the country, including infamously draconian measures in Arizona and Alabama (former Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed that state’s law, is reportedly being considered for a Trump cabinet post).

      • Achtung!

        I suppose we can make it easy and hand out something to spot them … I have a muslim friend – 6 feet tall, blonde blue-eyes, plays basketball and everyone says she should be a model.

        Maybe they can wear an armband? A yellow crescent?

      • If they implement a ‘registry’ of Muslims in this country, the impact on American Information Technology staffing would be devastating. Where I work, I would estimate that 15% or our staff is of that religious persuasion, from Pakistan and other middle eastern countries. Talking with Ray (not his real name) yesterday, he told me he’s ready to sell his home at a pretty good profit and return to his homeland a rich retiree.
        But don’t confuse the fumbducks with consequences, let them act our their paranoid fantasies and watch as the fabric of our nation crumples.

        • There have long been two things, deeply embedded in this country, that I’ve never been able to understand. Fear, and hate. That was before Trump who taught me how to really really really strongly strongly dislike loudmouthed assholes with really bad hair; now all I can’t understand is fear.

      • Actually, I think we’ve been that way since maybe 300 years before I was born — mid-1600s, roughly (about the time the first whiteys arrived, whenever that was).

    • It’s important that this neighbor be found and prosecuted for this crime. And it is a crime. We can’t let anyone say it’s anything but a crime, or else these things will continue to happen, and probably on an hourly basis.

      • My best guess is that, thanks to Trump, we’re closer to that point than at any time since maybe the fifties, early sixties. Sadly, the hate persists whether under cover or spoken. One of this country’s (and maybe the world’s) most persistent — and absurd — faults: irrational hate.

  10. Sessions to be Trump’s A.J.? What could possibly go wrong?

    Trump Ally Jeff Sessions’ Alarming History Of Opposing Civil Rights

    Sessions was U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Alabama. The year before his nomination to federal court, he had unsuccessfully prosecuted three civil rights workers–including Albert Turner, a former aide to Martin Luther King Jr.–on a tenuous case of voter fraud. The three had been working in the “Black Belt” counties of Alabama, which, after years of voting white, had begun to swing toward black candidates as voter registration drives brought in more black voters. Sessions’s focus on these counties to the exclusion of others caused an uproar among civil rights leaders, especially after hours of interrogating black absentee voters produced only 14 allegedly tampered ballots out of more than 1.7 million cast in the state in the 1984 election. The activists, known as the Marion Three, were acquitted in four hours and became a cause célèbre. Civil rights groups charged that Sessions had been looking for voter fraud in the black community and overlooking the same violations among whites, at least partly to help reelect his friend Senator Denton.

    On its own, the case might not have been enough to stain Sessions with the taint of racism, but there was more. Senate Democrats tracked down a career Justice Department employee named J. Gerald Hebert, who testified, albeit reluctantly, that in a conversation between the two men Sessions had labeled the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) “un-American” and “Communist-inspired.” Hebert said Sessions had claimed these groups “forced civil rights down the throats of people.” In his confirmation hearings, Sessions sealed his own fate by saying such groups could be construed as “un-American” when “they involve themselves in promoting un-American positions” in foreign policy. Hebert testified that the young lawyer tended to “pop off” on such topics regularly, noting that Sessions had called a white civil rights lawyer a “disgrace to his race” for litigating voting rights cases. Sessions acknowledged making many of the statements attributed to him but claimed that most of the time he had been joking, saying he was sometimes “loose with [his] tongue.” He further admitted to calling the Voting Rights Act of 1965 a “piece of intrusive legislation,” a phrase he stood behind even in his confirmation hearings.

    It got worse. Another damaging witness–a black former assistant U.S. Attorney in Alabama named Thomas Figures–testified that, during a 1981 murder investigation involving the Ku Klux Klan, Sessions was heard by several colleagues commenting that he “used to think they [the Klan] were OK” until he found out some of them were “pot smokers.” Sessions claimed the comment was clearly said in jest. Figures didn’t see it that way. Sessions, he said, had called him “boy” and, after overhearing him chastise a secretary, warned him to “be careful what you say to white folks.” Figures echoed Hebert’s claims, saying he too had heard Sessions call various civil rights organizations, including the National Council of Churches and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, “un-American.” Sessions denied the accusations but again admitted to frequently joking in an off-color sort of way. In his defense, he said he was not a racist, pointing out that his children went to integrated schools and that he had shared a hotel room with a black attorney several times.

  12. Once again Drumpfukle shows his utter lack of class, decorum and common effing sense.
    Ivanka joins him at his meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister. She, of course, is representing the rich girl constituency, who is so dramatically under represented in foreign relations.

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