The Watering Hole: May 7 – And now the chemical spill

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They must be kidding. To break up the Deepwater Horizon oil spill the dispersants Corexit 9500 and Corexit 9527 are used by the hundreds of thousands of gallons. Right into the ecosystem of the Gulf. But what is it they use?

As ProPublica reported Monday, information about dispersants is “kept secret under competitive trade laws.” I’ve spent the last several days trying to confirm what many in the ocean-ecology and public health worlds seemed to know, but no one would say officially: that two different dispersants sold under the banner of Corexit were being used in vast quantities. The Corexit brand is owned by an Illinois-based company called Nalco, which entered the dispersant business back in 1994, when it merged with Exxon’s chemical unit. (By 2004, Exxon had divested and Nalco was a standalone company, according to Nalco’s company history.)

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So, what’s in the stuff? According to their data sheets, both 9500 and 9527 are composed of three potentially hazardous substances. They share two in common, organic sulfonic acid salt and propylene glycol. In addition to those two, Corexit 9500 contains something called “Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light,” while Corexit 9527 contains 2-Butoxyethanol. Frustratingly, the sheets don’t give exact information about how much of the substances are in the dispersants; instead they give ranges as a percentage of weight. For example, Corexit 9500 can be composed of anywhere from 10 to 30 percent petroleum distillates, while 2-Butoxyethanol makes up anywhere from 30 to 60 percent of 9527.

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Protected under competitive trade laws? My foot, they are dumping it in our ecosystem the more the better and don’t even have to let us know what’s in it? I know, you can already hear me shout: “Regulation!”

There would be an alternative chemical, I seriously doubt that it is really environmentally friendly, but obviously it’s use wasn’t even considered properly.

Called Dispersit, it’s manufactured by the U.S. Polychemical Corporation and has been approved for use by the Environmental Protection Agency. Both Corexit and Dispersit were tested by the EPA, and according to those results, Corexit was 54.7 percent effective at breaking down crude oil from the Gulf, and Dispersit was 100 percent effective.

Not only did Corexit do a worse job of dispersing oil, but it was three times as lethal to silverfish – used as a benchmark organism in toxicity testing — and more than twice as lethal to shrimp, another benchmark organism and an important part of Gulf fisheries.

[…]

Relief agencies were not immediately available for comment about Dispersit. In a Tuesday press conference, Charlie Henry, the scientific support coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said the potential effects of Corexit’s use in the Gulf are unknown. “Those analyses are going on, but right now there’s no consensus,” he said. “And we’re just really getting started. You can imagine it’s something we’ve never thought about.” (read more)

Never thought about it? Figures.

You can find more information on the toxicity of Corexit here, here and here.

It is all just a matter of “Now you see me, now you don’t.”

This is our Open Thread. Spill your thoughts!

59 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: May 7 – And now the chemical spill

  1. I would say this falls under the category of “putting out the fire with gasoline”.

    In reading the Material Safety Data Sheet, #6 ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES is rather telling about what it’s behavior is and what it will do when it enters the water. They dance around the fact that it contains a hydocarbon and will not elaborate.
    ENVIRONMENTAL PRECAUTIONS : Prevent material from entering sewers or waterways.

    Hmmm, why would they mention this and then spray it on the water?

    This MSDS has been softened up and played down so that NALCO can get the product to market without the EPA greatly restricting its use.

    Anytime you see TWA’s and STEL’s at those low levels, it is a warning sign that it cannot be good for any organism, regardless of exposure levels.

    The Readers Digest version: It’s a poison. They are swapping one crisis for another that will take it out of sight and thus out of the publics mind.
    Never mind the fact that years down the road unpredictable birth defects or cancer rates will soar.
    What matters to BP is that the quaterly profits continue to soar.

    • vinylspear,

      Never mind the fact that years down the road unpredictable birth defects or cancer rates will soar.

      That is due to the health care reform. Ask the tea party crowd /sarc.

      Hubby is a chemist by training and he just snorted, when I asked him what it was they were spraying on the ocean there. “Don’t ask, it’s worse than what’s out there already.” is what he said. I decided to google it and he was right.

  2. But, it’s just chocolate milk. All we need is a big straw. (I still can’t get over that guy’s comment.)

    Admittedly I’ve not had time to read all the info on this stuff yet and not being a chemist, I’m likely to not fully understand it.

    It would seem that this is intended to be the lesser of two evils, but it seems that we’re simply trading one set of problems for another.

  3. Maybe not chocolate milk but it has a similar consistency to the nutty brown Kool-Aid repubs love so much.

  4. I seed that this is labeled as an open-thread, so I hope you don’t mind if I post this.

    Last night I just watched a very good movie called The Life of Emile Zola. I had some vague knowledge of Emile Zola, and I’d heard of The Dreyfus Affair, and I’d heard of J’Accuse. But I’d never had all the dots connected.

    My friends and I are embarked upon a project to watch all the Oscar Best Picture winners from start to finish. The Life Of Emile Zola won in 1938.

    I think it’s a subject-matter that you all here might enjoy, and although dated, it’s a very fine film with some outstanding performances. I highly recommend it.

    • zxbe, this is definitela an open thread, so don’t worry. I love movies, but never heard of that one. Is it available on DVD or was it a tv or cinema special? I think your idea of watching all the oscar films is great.

  5. Maddow covered this subject last night, but had less specifics to report than the above article which though more detailed still notes unhelpfully incomplete

    As a cabinetmaker I dealt with quite a lot of compound chemicals—various glues, preparations and finishes, and last night I got to thinking about what I’d used to break down greasy, waxy and oily substances (often necessary to prep furniture for refinishing).

    I’d often use acetone or naphtha.
    Acetone is commonly known as nail polish remover. It evaporates quickly so it wouldn’t be good for dispersal in these circumstances.

    Naphtha is much less evaporative and better for breaking down oils than acetone. I wondered if that might be a part of the chemical treatment being used.

    I just did a search on “hydrotreated light petroleum distillate” from the mention of “Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light,” and here’s what I found; it’s naphtha.

    Here’s what I also found:

    Click to access 4128.pdf

    SECTION 6 – ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES
    Spill or Leak: Prevent product from entering drains. Should not be released into the environment. Absorb spill with inert material (e.g. dry sand or earth), then place in a chemical waste container .

    Solubility in Water: negligible.

    At our workshop we’d get rid of our old chemicals by dumping them into barrels of sawdust and then paid an EPA licensed toxic-waste disposal company to cart it all away.

  6. Yeah, the chocolate milk comment is somewhat reminiscent to Barbra Bush’s “this is working out quite well for them” moment.

    I know the congressman literally said all this, but it’s what I heard: This looks like chocolate milk, and chocolate milk is quite delicious, and a lot of folks here on the Redneck Riviera don’t have any chocolate milk anyway, so it’s working out quite well for them.

  7. What galls me the most, aside from the ecological disaster, is the limited liability BP has, other than ‘cleaning up’, which of course, means using whatever they feel like to dump on top of the goo.

    I’ve emailed Mr. Inslee regarding this ‘liability’ waiver, which is a civil matter, and can be corrected retroactively…

  8. EV, it was available on DVD. We rented it from Netflix.

    We’re pretty excited about the movie project. It gives a chance to experience some movies we wouldn’t have otherwise seen, such as this one about Zola. As we’ve only really begun, and there are still 70-some more movies for us to see, it’s about an 18-month effort. 🙂

    But lots of fun. Last week we saw Gone with the Wind (which I had only seen half of it before). We’re a bit out of order, but sometimes we don’t have much control on which one comes next, and we decided not to sweat the sequence too much.

  9. i heard a plausible explanation for bp’s gung-ho use of these dispersants: the hope that it would reduce cleanup costs by allowing far less oil to reach shore, combined with an urge to minimize the slick that can be photographed/satellite imaged.

    “we’re fixing it by dumping tons of poison into the gulf” is a psychotic’s rationale, imo.

    might also explain the turtle kills which started immediately after the spill started. those turtle carcasses washed ashore had no sign of oil internally, and no sign of other injury – straight-up poisoning would be a likely cause of death.

  10. “in Sacramento, a pesticide so cancer-causing that it’s often used specifically to create cancer in rats for medical experiments was just approved for use on the state’s strawberry crop.

    Lobbying for methyl iodide, we have a single company, the largest pesticide manufacturer in the world, Arysta LifeScience.”

  11. Bobby “I’m such a tool” Jindal must be gunning for Johnny McCains flip flop record.
    All of sudden federal aid is the only way to get this mess under control (duh, no kidding).
    Wow! Captain Obvious must have beat him over the head with an irony bat because you just can’t make this stuff up.

  12. My post on methyl iodide may have ended up in the spam bin. (there was only one link in the post).

    “(It’s) a pesticide so cancer-causing that it’s often used specifically to create cancer in rats for medical experiments was just approved for use on the state’s strawberry crop.” (California)

  13. EV, a very nice tie-in on the offshore Florida thread over at TP! You are a smooth operator!

    Appreciate your giving us the European view – my horizons are widened every time you post!

    Say, by the way do you still have “Amelie”?

    • 2ebb, thanks. I do my best. Amelie is a free born hedgehog and we set her free again after she has gained enough weight to live in the wild. I still think of her a lot and we have a well hidden hedgehog house, which is occupied in winter and where I hope she finds shelter. I am on the lookout for her since we let her go, but have seen her only once.

      Raising her was a real adventure given the fact that she weighed only 34 grams when I took her in. The chances of survival are rated by weight, according to the vet she had a 34% chance of survival. But that girl was a fighter.

  14. EV,
    I have been waiting for them to rename it the “Wink Room”, and put all the Palin articles there. No luck so far.

      • Ok guys, I need a nap. I’ll be around tomorrow evening my time, just in time to wake you all up! Good Night and enjoy music night.

  15. Sometimes it is boring for me too, EV. I like the Thinkfast thread and once in a while an early thread covers a good issue, but it isn’t as well moderated as Crooks and Liars. C & L also starts earlier, stays up later, and has much more on weekends and holidays.

  16. FCC Details Plan To Reassert Authority Over Internet

    The Federal Communications Commission on Thursday detailed plans for its so-called “third way” to reclassify broadband service as a telecommunications service, which would help the agency reassert its authority for regulating the Internet, after it lost an important legal battle last month.
    The purpose of the statement is to put the agency on stronger legal footing after a federal appeals court ruled last month that the FCC had no legal authority to punish Comcast for slowing down BitTorrent traffic on its network. The FCC officially censured Comcast for violating its Net neutrality principles.

    Comcast: FCC Opening Net Neutrality Door ‘Scary’

    A Comcast executive on Friday took aim at federal regulators’ recent Net neutrality decision, saying the move could apply the “heavy burden of regulation” designed for the analog telephone network to the Internet.

    But, at a Stanford University conference, Waz said federal regulation “cannot be guided by good intentions alone” and “what could be applied once you’ve opened the door is scary.” A future FCC, for instance, could choose to use the precedent to impose more telephone-era rules such as price regulation.

    All week this story has been hanging in the wind. If Comcast really is upset over this, maybe we are safe at least for now. I’d still like Congress to put law behind the regulations, so a “future FCC” can’t roll back the protection we barely have now.

  17. Let’s see, 6am Central here is 1pm European Central, IIRC. I don’t think I can sleep until evening, ‘your time’ EV. G’nite!

  18. EV, news that is unlikely to make any coverage in the US.

    If an American (say one of the three in Iran right now) were to die and the state of Iran was investigating, you might think the news would cover that, though.

    Rachel Corrie doesn’t fit the cosy ‘Israel is the only law-abiding democracy with it’s back to the wall in the whole of the ME – they are keeping the Holy Land safe for the rapture’ narrative.

  19. Another piece of the puzzle?

    Methane Gas Bubble Reportedly Blamed For Rig Blast

    The deadly blowout of an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico was triggered by a bubble of methane gas that escaped from the well and shot up the drill column, expanding quickly as it burst through several seals and barriers before exploding, according to interviews with rig workers conducted during BP’s internal investigation.

  20. HoR,
    I do not get the significance of a methane gas bubble in the explosion event. There still has to be a basis for ignition. That requires a spark or open flame. My old man used to work in the Texas fields in the late 30’s and they required that mules haul any motor vehicle from the vicinity of an open well to prevent any possibility of same occurring.

  21. Walt,
    The Chron.com link, and this MSNBC.com link were originally identical, both from AP, with the same reporters, but the Chron link has been updated. The MSNBC link still has the text that explains in better detail. That would have confused me also, but at the time I made the comment, the text made more sense. I added the text from the MSNBC article below in case it gets updated as well.

    Report: Gas Bubble Triggered Rig Blast

    Seven BP executives were on board the Deepwater Horizon rig celebrating the project’s safety record, according to the transcripts. Meanwhile, far below, the rig was being converted from an exploration well to a production well.

    As the workers removed pressure from the drilling column and introduced heat to set the cement seal around the wellhead, the chemical reaction created a gas bubble and the cement around the pipe destabilized, according to the interviews.

    Deep beneath the seafloor, methane gas is in a slushy, crystalline form. But as the bubble rose up the drill column from the high-pressure environs of the deep to the less pressurized shallows, it intensified and grew, breaking through the rig’s various safety barriers, the interviews said.

    “A small bubble becomes a really big bubble,” Bea said. “So the expanding bubble becomes like a cannon shooting the gas into your face.”

    ‘Swoosh, boom, run’
    Up on the rig, the first thing workers noticed was the seawater in the drill column suddenly shooting back out at them, rocketing 240 feet in the air. Then, the gas surfaced. Then the oil.

    “What we had learned when I worked as a drill rig laborer was swoosh, boom, run,” Bea said. “The swoosh is the gas, boom is the explosion and run is what you better be doing.”

    The gas flooded into an adjoining room with exposed ignition sources, he said.

  22. house, you still here?
    There are those who need to know the connection between Frampton and the Kinks.
    (whom & lass).

  23. zooey, seems like you’ve started a cesspool party over at the TP thread.
    May be time for TheZoo to revive the tradition?

    • Now, what did Zooey do again? If I let you play alone …. starting cesspool parties and in another’s cesspool, too

      **exasperated**

      Good Morning, or rather Good Night for you all. How did studying go Z?

  24. Good Morning, EV.
    and
    Goodnight, EV.

    (it’s the Cantor-Pence thread)
    It’s a lengthy thread – but around 200 onward Zooey is having lost of fun with her many admirers.

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