The Watering Hole: December 30 – Land Sales

In 1626, the Manhattoes, a tribe of the Wappinger confederacy, in turn a subset of the Lenape Nation, that occupied New Jersey, Manhattan Island and the banks of Hudson River and shore of Long Island Sound, sold Manhattan to a group of immigrants. The proceeds from the sale came to 60 gilders in beads and trinkets. With inflation, that would amount to about $31,000 today.

After a number of land transfers, that land became part of The United States which has a whole new set of tribes. One member of the Democratic tribe has ceremoniously transfered that land back to members of Indian tribes who managed to survive the dynamics of history.

The Teabag tribe of the United States has raised issues on this matter. Conspiracies have been revealed that this ceremonial transfer represents a land grab precipitated by someone who has a secret relationship as a secret member of the Indian Nations. Revelations in Congress and the press cite this as only the beginning of the ceding of national territory to native tribes.

The natives are saying “A deal is a deal! You bought it, you keep it!”

Their concern is that, if they give in, they may have to take back Florida.

This is our Open Thread. Please feel free to add your thoughts on this, or any other topic that comes to mind.

And a Happy New Year to all!

85 thoughts on “The Watering Hole: December 30 – Land Sales

  1. Didn’t Bush give Manhatten back to the Indians back on Sept. 10, 2001, only to be an Indian Giver and take it back on the 12th? I thought that was the basis of his claim that no terrorist attack took place on American soil on his watch!

  2. Heard this brief funny on KPOJ’s morning show; Chris Rock honoring Oprah at the Kennedy Center Honors (his part starts at 2:30).

  3. I’m having the weirdest glitch at TP. When I refreshed the Home page looking for a possible new thread, it dropped this morning’s first post. A couple of refreshes later, I got it back, along with a second post. Now they’re gone again, although I can use history to get to them, individually, as long as I’ve already opened them once.

  4. Good one, BnF. πŸ™‚

    TP seems OK for me, at least at the moment. I’ll be glad after the holiday when they are back to the usual frequency of posts.

    Happy (early) New Year!

  5. Pristine is reporting that the crazed Leftist commies like Joe Biden are behind an attack on her good name.

    “You don’t need a tipster to show that this was politically motivated. We were informed that the Delaware political establishment was going to use every resource available to them, including launching phony investigations … tying me up with lawsuits to make sure I can’t move forward politically,” she said.

    How will she be “moving forward”? She’s not saying, but she’s putting together a PAC.

  6. O’Donnell doesn’t really have a useful shtick, other than looking like an idiot on talk shows. Besides, if she ever started pulling attention from The Quitter, Sarah would shut her down.

  7. The teabaggers are living proof that the ignoramusization (to coin a word) is proceeding directly on the schedule and course that St. Ronnie the Raygun mandated. Without further interruption, that should predict the death of the nation within a decade. Emily Dickinson once wondered, “Can the dumb define the divine?” Definitely not, but don’t try to tell them that.

    There are times that I’m really glad to be as old as dirt. An old friend once proposed that the earth was originally populated by virtue of its being an inter-galactic penal colony for the criminally insane. I see scant evidence to the contrary anymore. If, indeed, I ever did.

  8. On her TV show about Alaska, Palin takes a swipe at Mrs. Obama’s anti-obesity campaign.

    And here I thought this show wasn’t supposed to be political.

    Of course we were lead to believe that the Beck/Palin rally wasn’t going to be political either.

  9. Glad to see that punk Turner get some time; hope he remembers to bring the shampoo with him to the shower.

    Chicago is pretty sensitive about threats against judges. It wasn’t that many years ago a (Federal? Superior ct.?) judge had her entire family slaughtered in a professional hit. As far as I know, the house still has not been sold.

  10. C&L is largely rehashed news these days, IMO, but there’s a particularly arresting piece today in regard to blizzard response in NYC and Philadelphia (with some striking photos of the class war). If nothing else, check out the two photos at the bottom of the article.

    http://gocl.me/goeJTB

  11. Well, it is a good thing I’m well stocked; there’s even an (almost) full bottle of rum.

    But the roads throughout the HOA where I live are pretty much totally iced over. People have called for tow trucks, but the trucks couldn’t even get through.

    Yummy homemade Lentil Stew has been thawing out, so dinner will be hot and “stick to the ribs”.

    (Glad, too, that the wires are mostly underground these days. Means I keep my internet!)

  12. This is really a winter season for the record books. 30+ inches of snow by Christmas, and now… today… it’s 40-degrees. And raining. The gutters are all clogged with ice, as are the storm drains. Result. Street flooding. But, the joy of this is tonight will get down to 20. And it will remain below freezing for the next few days. So we too shall become encased in ice.

    I’m in for the duration. πŸ™‚

  13. Turtle Mt. across the river from town got a dusting of snow today. Not unheard of, but certainly unusual. It’s cold wet and a good day to stay inside.
    So I’m going out.
    Be back in awhile.
    A nice thing about going away is one gets to come home!

  14. zxbe, maybe Gary can pass you that bottle of rum!

    (I’m not gloating, honestly – after two days of torrential and then just heavy rain: today dawned crystal clear and the sun continues to shine)

  15. Raven, (I’m laughing – big time) the other day I was watching the Water Tower pair of Peregrines – umbrella in one hand binocs in the other (it was a moderate downpour).
    I was joined by another falcon follower – so then there were two of us!

  16. I saw numerous peregrines on the coast ebb, the best encounter was one chasing a pair of juvenile white ibis across the bay. The ibis’ had the wits to land close to the kayak, making the peregrine nervous and giving up to go seek less intelligent prey.
    Sadly I was busy with my fishing tackle and couldn’t get the camera going in time.

  17. It’s good to be home Zooey. Eating and sleeping. Then more of the same. Brought home some fish, black drum is awesome table fare.

  18. Red Drum isn’t so bad either. Years ago, I knew a place in Phoenix where I could get virtually any fish damn near as fresh as if I caught it myself and brought it home. I’d coat Red Drum ‘steaks’ with a Cajun seasoning, then blacken it in a cast iron skillet and butter, always outside, on a small propane stove. Blackened Redfish: delicious! Can you do that with Black Drum too?

  19. I would imagine so, it’s a sturdy fish with a texture like crab. I grilled (part of) mine one night and brought the rest home.
    Early in the trip I caught a 6 lb. red drum, but let it go.
    At the time I thought it was a black drum, because it wasn’t red, very silvery. Fishing in the surf at night is very spooky. There are very large fish swimming around very close to the beach. I had something on for awhile that went wherever it wanted before throwing the hook.
    Here’ what they look like, a black drum and a speckled sea trout:

  20. You’ll like this one Gary…
    Stumpy, the one legged oystercatcher.

    Looking closely at the bird on the right, it’s left leg is gone.
    The bird on the left is his long suffering mate Ophelia.

  21. If I make a comment then don’t get back later, I’m having some kind of connection issue with my internet service. Something causes my modem to ‘time out’, or something. I stood in line at Comcast to get a replacement modem, but it may have been an external problem. They’re coming Wednesday to check the signal from the pole.

  22. Gaaack. I get to finish out the year working my butt off to try and keep a customer too dense to plan ahead happy. And too cheap to pay for the right equipment. SSDD. And then to come home and read that the next two years are going to be a protracted dog & pony show run by idiots…where’s my Corona?

  23. And, zxbe, it is raining and foggy here as well. I am not looking forward to what the roads are going to be like in the morning. If it is icy, my customer is SOL. I’ll do a lot to keep one happy but not risk my life on icy rods. Nope.

  24. Raven, I’m wondering if as the Boomers retire and don’t have to work if they will return to their roots of youth (the last time they didn’t work) and bring back the Age of Protest. Maybe The Age of Aquarius could find new life in the Age of the Hover-round. πŸ˜‰

  25. For those who like those kinds of things, I posted another song parody on my blog. This one is about how the people at Fox News Channel live in their own universe and complain about the one we live in. I call it “Against the Universe.” I hope you like it.

  26. Boomers and Medicare: “To save the system, fiscal watchdogs insist Americans will ultimately have to work longer and get used to less government help.”

    Bullshit. To save the system all we have to do is reduce the cost of medical care to something in line with what is paid in Europe. This would also suffice to eliminate the deficit.

  27. Agreed, Gary. And the first step is to quit giving so damn much money to people who aren’t even IN the health care system.

  28. With 10k Boomers hitting retirement age every day, 3.65 million in 2011 alone, It will be interesting to see how long the ‘gut SSI & Medicare’ lasts as a Republican stance.

  29. Zooey, I figure historians in the future will refer to the period beginning in 1980 until the shit really hits the fan in the next few years, as either the Dark Ages of America or The End of the Grand Experiment.

  30. Everyone must needs consider for themselves where their lines are to be drawn about such things as the gutting of Social Security and Medicare. But serious civil disobedience will never emerge from a forum such as this for the simple reason that everything anyone types here can be pulled up with a basic google search.

    It is probably childish paranoia on my part, but I still can’t help feeling that the more committed any persons really are to changing the world, the less willing they ought to be to openly discuss such matters in so a publicly accessible a medium as this.

  31. “Everyone must needs consider”

    I haven’t heard that phrase ever used by an American in conversation. Such a classic turn of phrase. But you may be right, Gary. Myself, I have been a rabble rouser since the age of 12 or so and if the gubmint hasn’t figured it out by now, I’m not going to be concerned.

  32. I don’t give a shit either. Bring ’em on. One reaches that point, you know. Eventually, sooner or later, when the operative words change from “oh shit” to “fuck ’em.” I’ve crossed that bar. Fuck ’em.

    Grrrr.

  33. Zooey,

    If you piss me off, I could supply your name, address, web address and cell (the final two as of a few years back). My only concern is that you have my name, address and web address as well as a son in FL. That puts me at a slight disadvantage in a pissing contest!

    On a more serious note, I know of an ‘Aunt Millie’ of sorts in my life experience. She was abused by a sot of a husband and used by uncaring offspring. He died on pension at 55 with no surviving spouse option. Her children led her from one scam to another until she lost her (their?) home. She had to work at Sears, K-Mart and Wal-Mart from about 53 (she married young) to 67 and then went on SS and at that point had more income than at any time in her life.

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